Disagreement with DH about breast lift

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Including yourself. Anyone as emotionally invested as you are in what another woman does or thinks about her body, need serious psychological help.

You are a weirdo.

if you can't see how this type of vanity affects women and our society in general, then you are very myopic.

This type of vanity vs what other type of vanity are you referring to? Is there a morally superior form of vanity that you approve of? Please do tell us women what an acceptable type of vanity is, since you are so obsessed with other women's bodies and their choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Including yourself. Anyone as emotionally invested as you are in what another woman does or thinks about her body, need serious psychological help.

You are a weirdo.

if you can't see how this type of vanity affects women and our society in general, then you are very myopic.

This type of vanity vs what other type of vanity are you referring to? Is there a morally superior form of vanity that you approve of? Please do tell us women what an acceptable type of vanity is, since you are so obsessed with other women's bodies and their choices.

DP. OP came here to discuss her disagreement with her husband over this particular vanity.
And those siding with her husband are pointing out that this is unnecessary and damaging, just like all other kinds of vanity are.

When someone brings forth their disagreement with their spouses over spending money and potentially risking their lives over other kinds of vanity, those kinds will be discussed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I had two small frown lines on my forehead. After 1 year of Botox, I don’t have them anymore. Of course I did not NEED Botox, but I look like my mom and she has deep frown lines so I am sure that is where I was heading before Botox. Does it mean I will
Not be ok with the changes that will happen to my face and body? No, of course I am ok,but I will try to preserve my looks as much as possible (healthy diet, exercise, sunscreen, Botox, fillers and perhaps plastic surgery at some point)

Seeing 30 year olds getting botox is gross and pitiful. Your face looks artificially smooth and your facial muscles stop functioning naturally.

On top of that, it's a huge waste of money.

You are so mean! I think your ugly wrinkles are gross and pitiful. I guarantee my face looks great and so what if those muscles are not working???? What is your problem!!!!! I think spending money on restaurants and food is stupid and a waste (I bet you love that... food I mean)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I had two small frown lines on my forehead. After 1 year of Botox, I don’t have them anymore. Of course I did not NEED Botox, but I look like my mom and she has deep frown lines so I am sure that is where I was heading before Botox. Does it mean I will
Not be ok with the changes that will happen to my face and body? No, of course I am ok,but I will try to preserve my looks as much as possible (healthy diet, exercise, sunscreen, Botox, fillers and perhaps plastic surgery at some point)

Seeing 30 year olds getting botox is gross and pitiful. Your face looks artificially smooth and your facial muscles stop functioning naturally.

On top of that, it's a huge waste of money.

You are so mean! I think your ugly wrinkles are gross and pitiful. I guarantee my face looks great and so what if those muscles are not working???? What is your problem!!!!! I think spending money on restaurants and food is stupid and a waste (I bet you love that... food I mean)

Also, why do you care so much what 30-33 year olds are doing to their faces? Are you so jealous and insecure? Maybe you wish you had done a little Botox, but now it’s too late and need a much more expensive and risky facelift? I bet you do.

[Anonymous]

Nailed it. There's nothing better than that moment when a formerly attractive woman realizes she's over the hill and she can no longer get everything she desires based on her physical attractiveness. It's almost like hitting the lottery.

OP here - I was never exceptionally attractive to begin with, just average, and I don't think I got my advanced degree or career based on my looks. I've decided to postpone any decision on this whatsoever until the fall, since I'm planning to do a 5K with my older son and a camping trip with my sister and her family in the interim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Including yourself. Anyone as emotionally invested as you are in what another woman does or thinks about her body, need serious psychological help.

You are a weirdo.

if you can't see how this type of vanity affects women and our society in general, then you are very myopic.

This type of vanity vs what other type of vanity are you referring to? Is there a morally superior form of vanity that you approve of? Please do tell us women what an acceptable type of vanity is, since you are so obsessed with other women's bodies and their choices.

DP. OP came here to discuss her disagreement with her husband over this particular vanity.
And those siding with her husband are pointing out that this is unnecessary and damaging, just like all other kinds of vanity are.

When someone brings forth their disagreement with their spouses over spending money and potentially risking their lives over other kinds of vanity, those kinds will be discussed.

Again...
This type of vanity vs what other type of vanity are you referring to? Is there a morally superior form of vanity that you approve of? Please do tell us women what an acceptable type of vanity is, since you are so obsessed with other women's bodies and their choices

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Including yourself. Anyone as emotionally invested as you are in what another woman does or thinks about her body, need serious psychological help.

You are a weirdo.

if you can't see how this type of vanity affects women and our society in general, then you are very myopic.

This type of vanity vs what other type of vanity are you referring to? Is there a morally superior form of vanity that you approve of? Please do tell us women what an acceptable type of vanity is, since you are so obsessed with other women's bodies and their choices.

DP. OP came here to discuss her disagreement with her husband over this particular vanity.
And those siding with her husband are pointing out that this is unnecessary and damaging, just like all other kinds of vanity are.

When someone brings forth their disagreement with their spouses over spending money and potentially risking their lives over other kinds of vanity, those kinds will be discussed.

What exactly is unnecessary and damaging about it? Do You normally like to police women's bodies, or is this just your weekend hobby?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I had two small frown lines on my forehead. After 1 year of Botox, I don’t have them anymore. Of course I did not NEED Botox, but I look like my mom and she has deep frown lines so I am sure that is where I was heading before Botox. Does it mean I will
Not be ok with the changes that will happen to my face and body? No, of course I am ok,but I will try to preserve my looks as much as possible (healthy diet, exercise, sunscreen, Botox, fillers and perhaps plastic surgery at some point)

Seeing 30 year olds getting botox is gross and pitiful. Your face looks artificially smooth and your facial muscles stop functioning naturally.

On top of that, it's a huge waste of money.

You are so mean! I think your ugly wrinkles are gross and pitiful. I guarantee my face looks great and so what if those muscles are not working???? What is your problem!!!!! I think spending money on restaurants and food is stupid and a waste (I bet you love that... food I mean)

There will likely come a time when you won’t be able to use Botox, and then you’ll wish those muscles worked. And you think spending money on food is stupid and a waste? Guess you eat the cheapest, most unhealthy food around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Including yourself. Anyone as emotionally invested as you are in what another woman does or thinks about her body, need serious psychological help.

You are a weirdo.

if you can't see how this type of vanity affects women and our society in general, then you are very myopic.

This type of vanity vs what other type of vanity are you referring to? Is there a morally superior form of vanity that you approve of? Please do tell us women what an acceptable type of vanity is, since you are so obsessed with other women's bodies and their choices.

DP. OP came here to discuss her disagreement with her husband over this particular vanity.
And those siding with her husband are pointing out that this is unnecessary and damaging, just like all other kinds of vanity are.

When someone brings forth their disagreement with their spouses over spending money and potentially risking their lives over other kinds of vanity, those kinds will be discussed.

What exactly is unnecessary and damaging about it? Do You normally like to police women's bodies, or is this just your weekend hobby?

NP but your continued confusion about the idea that there could be a difference between things that take only time/money/energy and things that could conceivably kill you is not convincing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Including yourself. Anyone as emotionally invested as you are in what another woman does or thinks about her body, need serious psychological help.

You are a weirdo.

if you can't see how this type of vanity affects women and our society in general, then you are very myopic.

This type of vanity vs what other type of vanity are you referring to? Is there a morally superior form of vanity that you approve of? Please do tell us women what an acceptable type of vanity is, since you are so obsessed with other women's bodies and their choices.

DP. OP came here to discuss her disagreement with her husband over this particular vanity.
And those siding with her husband are pointing out that this is unnecessary and damaging, just like all other kinds of vanity are.

When someone brings forth their disagreement with their spouses over spending money and potentially risking their lives over other kinds of vanity, those kinds will be discussed.

Again...
This type of vanity vs what other type of vanity are you referring to? Is there a morally superior form of vanity that you approve of? Please do tell us women what an acceptable type of vanity is, since you are so obsessed with other women's bodies and their choices

I will explain it to you if you are OP. Otherwise, start your own thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I had two small frown lines on my forehead. After 1 year of Botox, I don’t have them anymore. Of course I did not NEED Botox, but I look like my mom and she has deep frown lines so I am sure that is where I was heading before Botox. Does it mean I will
Not be ok with the changes that will happen to my face and body? No, of course I am ok,but I will try to preserve my looks as much as possible (healthy diet, exercise, sunscreen, Botox, fillers and perhaps plastic surgery at some point)

Seeing 30 year olds getting botox is gross and pitiful. Your face looks artificially smooth and your facial muscles stop functioning naturally.

On top of that, it's a huge waste of money.

You are so mean! I think your ugly wrinkles are gross and pitiful. I guarantee my face looks great and so what if those muscles are not working???? What is your problem!!!!! I think spending money on restaurants and food is stupid and a waste (I bet you love that... food I mean)

There will likely come a time when you won’t be able to use Botox, and then you’ll wish those muscles worked. And you think spending money on food is stupid and a waste? Guess you eat the cheapest, most unhealthy food around.

No, I will always be happy if those muscles don’t work. I only look angry and mean with those wrinkles. I eat very well FYI, but don’t go to restaurants and waste money that way. Just stop worrying about me and being so envious. Just stop

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I had two small frown lines on my forehead. After 1 year of Botox, I don’t have them anymore. Of course I did not NEED Botox, but I look like my mom and she has deep frown lines so I am sure that is where I was heading before Botox. Does it mean I will
Not be ok with the changes that will happen to my face and body? No, of course I am ok,but I will try to preserve my looks as much as possible (healthy diet, exercise, sunscreen, Botox, fillers and perhaps plastic surgery at some point)

Seeing 30 year olds getting botox is gross and pitiful. Your face looks artificially smooth and your facial muscles stop functioning naturally.

On top of that, it's a huge waste of money.

You are so mean! I think your ugly wrinkles are gross and pitiful. I guarantee my face looks great and so what if those muscles are not working???? What is your problem!!!!! I think spending money on restaurants and food is stupid and a waste (I bet you love that... food I mean)

There will likely come a time when you won’t be able to use Botox, and then you’ll wish those muscles worked. And you think spending money on food is stupid and a waste? Guess you eat the cheapest, most unhealthy food around.

No, I will always be happy if those muscles don’t work. I only look angry and mean with those wrinkles. I eat very well FYI, but don’t go to restaurants and waste money that way. Just stop worrying about me and being so envious. Just stop

Are you sure you’re 30 and not 12?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I had two small frown lines on my forehead. After 1 year of Botox, I don’t have them anymore. Of course I did not NEED Botox, but I look like my mom and she has deep frown lines so I am sure that is where I was heading before Botox. Does it mean I will
Not be ok with the changes that will happen to my face and body? No, of course I am ok,but I will try to preserve my looks as much as possible (healthy diet, exercise, sunscreen, Botox, fillers and perhaps plastic surgery at some point)

Seeing 30 year olds getting botox is gross and pitiful. Your face looks artificially smooth and your facial muscles stop functioning naturally.

On top of that, it's a huge waste of money.

You are so mean! I think your ugly wrinkles are gross and pitiful. I guarantee my face looks great and so what if those muscles are not working???? What is your problem!!!!! I think spending money on restaurants and food is stupid and a waste (I bet you love that... food I mean)

There will likely come a time when you won’t be able to use Botox, and then you’ll wish those muscles worked. And you think spending money on food is stupid and a waste? Guess you eat the cheapest, most unhealthy food around.

No, I will always be happy if those muscles don’t work. I only look angry and mean with those wrinkles. I eat very well FYI, but don’t go to restaurants and waste money that way. Just stop worrying about me and being so envious. Just stop

Are you sure you’re 30 and not 12?

Man! What is your problem????? Go make your husband happy please and stop this. I am done

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Including yourself. Anyone as emotionally invested as you are in what another woman does or thinks about her body, need serious psychological help.

You are a weirdo.

if you can't see how this type of vanity affects women and our society in general, then you are very myopic.

This type of vanity vs what other type of vanity are you referring to? Is there a morally superior form of vanity that you approve of? Please do tell us women what an acceptable type of vanity is, since you are so obsessed with other women's bodies and their choices.

DP. OP came here to discuss her disagreement with her husband over this particular vanity.
And those siding with her husband are pointing out that this is unnecessary and damaging, just like all other kinds of vanity are.

When someone brings forth their disagreement with their spouses over spending money and potentially risking their lives over other kinds of vanity, those kinds will be discussed.

Again...
This type of vanity vs what other type of vanity are you referring to? Is there a morally superior form of vanity that you approve of? Please do tell us women what an acceptable type of vanity is, since you are so obsessed with other women's bodies and their choices

good grief! you are bitter, damaged goods

[Anonymous]

I totally get where you are coming from OP. I don't like wearing my harness/bra but look awful without and know I'd be much more comfortable with smaller/lifted chest. I'm 53 and will finally get it done this year as well.