South Arlington elementary school boundary adjustments 2019

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Also, this year's fr/l rates were posted. Barcroft is at 59.67%. Randolph, 73.67%. Abingdon is all the way down to 47.16%. I have no idea what the new Drew will look like, but I think it's going to be under 60% just based on the current surrounding area demographics. In this domino scenario of "improving" schools it looks like we're going to have a number of schools under or right at 60%. But Randolph is going to be the one of the last dominos to fall.

I hope you are right on Drew, but I'm betting the Arna Valley AH and older apartments near the Glebe Rd Giant are redistricted from Oakridge to Drew and really increase the number of FARMS kids.

I think Oakridge and Hoffman Boston end up ahead, and Drew ends up looking like Barcroft and Randolph.

That seems likely.

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Also, this year's fr/l rates were posted. Barcroft is at 59.67%. Randolph, 73.67%. Abingdon is all the way down to 47.16%. I have no idea what the new Drew will look like, but I think it's going to be under 60% just based on the current surrounding area demographics. In this domino scenario of "improving" schools it looks like we're going to have a number of schools under or right at 60%. But Randolph is going to be the one of the last dominos to fall.

I hope you are right on Drew, but I'm betting the Arna Valley AH and older apartments near the Glebe Rd Giant are redistricted from Oakridge to Drew and really increase the number of FARMS kids.

I think Oakridge and Hoffman Boston end up ahead, and Drew ends up looking like Barcroft and Randolph.

That seems likely.

Well that’s awesome, because everyone thinks my neighborhood is getting moved to Drew from Henry.

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Also, this year's fr/l rates were posted. Barcroft is at 59.67%. Randolph, 73.67%. Abingdon is all the way down to 47.16%. I have no idea what the new Drew will look like, but I think it's going to be under 60% just based on the current surrounding area demographics. In this domino scenario of "improving" schools it looks like we're going to have a number of schools under or right at 60%. But Randolph is going to be the one of the last dominos to fall.

I hope you are right on Drew, but I'm betting the Arna Valley AH and older apartments near the Glebe Rd Giant are redistricted from Oakridge to Drew and really increase the number of FARMS kids.

I think Oakridge and Hoffman Boston end up ahead, and Drew ends up looking like Barcroft and Randolph.

That seems likely.

Well that’s awesome, because everyone thinks my neighborhood is getting moved to Drew from Henry.

Ending choice and forcing everyone into neighborhood schools could help things...

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Also, this year's fr/l rates were posted. Barcroft is at 59.67%. Randolph, 73.67%. Abingdon is all the way down to 47.16%. I have no idea what the new Drew will look like, but I think it's going to be under 60% just based on the current surrounding area demographics. In this domino scenario of "improving" schools it looks like we're going to have a number of schools under or right at 60%. But Randolph is going to be the one of the last dominos to fall.

I hope you are right on Drew, but I'm betting the Arna Valley AH and older apartments near the Glebe Rd Giant are redistricted from Oakridge to Drew and really increase the number of FARMS kids.

I think Oakridge and Hoffman Boston end up ahead, and Drew ends up looking like Barcroft and Randolph.

That seems likely.

Well that’s awesome, because everyone thinks my neighborhood is getting moved to Drew from Henry.

Ending choice and forcing everyone into neighborhood schools could help things...

There just aren’t enough middle class families once you get to Glebe. Not in proportion to all the low income housing.

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Anonymous wrote:They're not going to do any of this. You cray. Certainly not any sort of tracking or "school within a school." Just move already. That's what they're going to tell you.

Not cray. This is exactly what they did on the north side 25 years ago. It’s been done before.

Go watch the SB meeting where the department of instruction basically said this (meaning tracking) was a huge mistake of the previous generation that won't be repeated. FFS, unless the Super and all his staff and at least 3/5 SB members leave in the next 6 months you're on a fool's errand. Randolph has IB, but it's for every student at the school not just some in a special program. They're not going to force out the neighborhood kids who can walk from the "Barcroft" Apartments onto buses over to a school outside of their neighborhood on the other side of Columbia Pike. I don't know what on earth you're smoking, but it's some pretty good stuff.

And I will add, right now the area I’m discussing crosses George Mason. They cross a major road right now. There are still plenty of apartments that would still be zoned to the school.

They are in the Randolph walk zone. They are not in the Barcroft walk zone.

No they don't. Walk zones are entirely determined by the physical location of the school and it's surrounding streets.

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ on the Montessori point, my child is in the Drew program and got in as a preschooler. At the time we applied, it was my understanding that entrance as a 3 year old was the only way to guarantee access to Montessori as an elementary student. That hasn't changed and I don't know why it would change simply because Montessori is going to a new building. I don't think there's anything being "designed" to retain preschoolers more than in prior years, unless maybe people think that the Henry location is more convenient and therefore are less likely to re-route their kids to their home elem starting in K. Frankly, I was confused as to why so many parents seemed to think otherwise at the Montessori meeting the other night.

That said, I also think it's pretty clear from the Montessori meeting and from the reality of Arlington's school-age population that the Montessori program will expand once located at Henry. They have done projections to expand it out to 700+ students, from its current status at around 460 students. It's not going to happen next year, so doesn't do parents of current private/sattelite Montessori programs any good, but it seems inevitable that it will expand down the line.

2/3 VPI preference.

Choice programs north of 50 = designed to benefit UMC
Choice programs south of 50 = designed to benefit working poor*

Not a bad thing, but it would be great if Alcova Heights, Douglas Park, Barcroft neighborhoods and other surrounding SFH neighborhoods were also being well served.

What choice program N of 50 are designed to benefit the UMC? The only option schools N of 50 are ATS, which is countywide, and Key, which serves N and S Arlington on the eastern half.

You aren’t looking at context. Science focus, Key, ATS, the team model was all set up to better serve upper middle class families when the demographics were different.
Ya know... when houses were 650k and there was a bit more diversity.

But they think it was all a mistake. Don't you see? They aren't looking to repeat that model. This doesn't mean I agree with them, but it is what it is.

If they don't want to repeat that model, they should just go ahead and allow ASFS to be countywide lottery. Let the people with spots already stay, open the rest to ALL of Arlington. There's no reason that it should only be a lottery school for half the county. That would go a long way.

Wtf? It's a neighborhood school! Where are the asfs zoned kids going to go if you make it county wide! There are 800 kids that live in that zone.

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ on the Montessori point, my child is in the Drew program and got in as a preschooler. At the time we applied, it was my understanding that entrance as a 3 year old was the only way to guarantee access to Montessori as an elementary student. That hasn't changed and I don't know why it would change simply because Montessori is going to a new building. I don't think there's anything being "designed" to retain preschoolers more than in prior years, unless maybe people think that the Henry location is more convenient and therefore are less likely to re-route their kids to their home elem starting in K. Frankly, I was confused as to why so many parents seemed to think otherwise at the Montessori meeting the other night.

That said, I also think it's pretty clear from the Montessori meeting and from the reality of Arlington's school-age population that the Montessori program will expand once located at Henry. They have done projections to expand it out to 700+ students, from its current status at around 460 students. It's not going to happen next year, so doesn't do parents of current private/sattelite Montessori programs any good, but it seems inevitable that it will expand down the line.

Good luck!
Henry's capacity is about 500. Right now there are 685 kids and it is incredibly crowded. I've heard that another trailer will be added once Montessori moves in. It's going on the blacktop. So the plan is to add more kids? And you're okay with that?
Don't forget they will be sharing their field space and parking lot with the newly expanded (1500 +800) Career Center and the Arlington Tech (800+), Arlington Community High School (300?) an the Library.
What a shitshow that will be. As I said before, good luck.

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Anonymous wrote:They're not going to do any of this. You cray. Certainly not any sort of tracking or "school within a school." Just move already. That's what they're going to tell you.

Not cray. This is exactly what they did on the north side 25 years ago. It’s been done before.

Go watch the SB meeting where the department of instruction basically said this (meaning tracking) was a huge mistake of the previous generation that won't be repeated. FFS, unless the Super and all his staff and at least 3/5 SB members leave in the next 6 months you're on a fool's errand. Randolph has IB, but it's for every student at the school not just some in a special program. They're not going to force out the neighborhood kids who can walk from the "Barcroft" Apartments onto buses over to a school outside of their neighborhood on the other side of Columbia Pike. I don't know what on earth you're smoking, but it's some pretty good stuff.

And I will add, right now the area I’m discussing crosses George Mason. They cross a major road right now. There are still plenty of apartments that would still be zoned to the school.

They are in the Randolph walk zone. They are not in the Barcroft walk zone.

No they don't. Walk zones are entirely determined by the physical location of the school and it's surrounding streets.

So you can have overlapping walk zones.

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Anonymous wrote:They're not going to do any of this. You cray. Certainly not any sort of tracking or "school within a school." Just move already. That's what they're going to tell you.

Not cray. This is exactly what they did on the north side 25 years ago. It’s been done before.

Go watch the SB meeting where the department of instruction basically said this (meaning tracking) was a huge mistake of the previous generation that won't be repeated. FFS, unless the Super and all his staff and at least 3/5 SB members leave in the next 6 months you're on a fool's errand. Randolph has IB, but it's for every student at the school not just some in a special program. They're not going to force out the neighborhood kids who can walk from the "Barcroft" Apartments onto buses over to a school outside of their neighborhood on the other side of Columbia Pike. I don't know what on earth you're smoking, but it's some pretty good stuff.

And I will add, right now the area I’m discussing crosses George Mason. They cross a major road right now. There are still plenty of apartments that would still be zoned to the school.

They are in the Randolph walk zone. They are not in the Barcroft walk zone.

No they don't. Walk zones are entirely determined by the physical location of the school and it's surrounding streets.

So you can have overlapping walk zones.

They are not moving kids who walk to Randolph on an established and safe walking route over to Barcroft, which is further away. There's literally no reason that they would do this. The kids live in Douglas Park. They go to school in Douglas Park. The end.

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Anonymous wrote:They're not going to do any of this. You cray. Certainly not any sort of tracking or "school within a school." Just move already. That's what they're going to tell you.

Not cray. This is exactly what they did on the north side 25 years ago. It’s been done before.

Go watch the SB meeting where the department of instruction basically said this (meaning tracking) was a huge mistake of the previous generation that won't be repeated. FFS, unless the Super and all his staff and at least 3/5 SB members leave in the next 6 months you're on a fool's errand. Randolph has IB, but it's for every student at the school not just some in a special program. They're not going to force out the neighborhood kids who can walk from the "Barcroft" Apartments onto buses over to a school outside of their neighborhood on the other side of Columbia Pike. I don't know what on earth you're smoking, but it's some pretty good stuff.

And I will add, right now the area I’m discussing crosses George Mason. They cross a major road right now. There are still plenty of apartments that would still be zoned to the school.

They are in the Randolph walk zone. They are not in the Barcroft walk zone.

No they don't. Walk zones are entirely determined by the physical location of the school and it's surrounding streets.

So you can have overlapping walk zones.

They are not moving kids who walk to Randolph on an established and safe walking route over to Barcroft, which is further away. There's literally no reason that they would do this. The kids live in Douglas Park. They go to school in Douglas Park. The end.

Half of Douglas Park doesn’t go to Randolph. The neighborhood is split right now. What I’m saying makes much more sense than what is currently happening. Half the neighborhood is buses now. If this change were to happen everyone would be a walker.
This really isn’t a outlandish idea.

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Anonymous wrote:They're not going to do any of this. You cray. Certainly not any sort of tracking or "school within a school." Just move already. That's what they're going to tell you.

Not cray. This is exactly what they did on the north side 25 years ago. It’s been done before.

Go watch the SB meeting where the department of instruction basically said this (meaning tracking) was a huge mistake of the previous generation that won't be repeated. FFS, unless the Super and all his staff and at least 3/5 SB members leave in the next 6 months you're on a fool's errand. Randolph has IB, but it's for every student at the school not just some in a special program. They're not going to force out the neighborhood kids who can walk from the "Barcroft" Apartments onto buses over to a school outside of their neighborhood on the other side of Columbia Pike. I don't know what on earth you're smoking, but it's some pretty good stuff.

And I will add, right now the area I’m discussing crosses George Mason. They cross a major road right now. There are still plenty of apartments that would still be zoned to the school.

They are in the Randolph walk zone. They are not in the Barcroft walk zone.

No they don't. Walk zones are entirely determined by the physical location of the school and it's surrounding streets.

So you can have overlapping walk zones.

They are not moving kids who walk to Randolph on an established and safe walking route over to Barcroft, which is further away. There's literally no reason that they would do this. The kids live in Douglas Park. They go to school in Douglas Park. The end.

Half of Douglas Park doesn’t go to Randolph. The neighborhood is split right now. What I’m saying makes much more sense than what is currently happening. Half the neighborhood is buses now. If this change were to happen everyone would be a walker.
This really isn’t a outlandish idea.

And the buses go to which school?

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Anonymous wrote:They're not going to do any of this. You cray. Certainly not any sort of tracking or "school within a school." Just move already. That's what they're going to tell you.

Not cray. This is exactly what they did on the north side 25 years ago. It’s been done before.

Go watch the SB meeting where the department of instruction basically said this (meaning tracking) was a huge mistake of the previous generation that won't be repeated. FFS, unless the Super and all his staff and at least 3/5 SB members leave in the next 6 months you're on a fool's errand. Randolph has IB, but it's for every student at the school not just some in a special program. They're not going to force out the neighborhood kids who can walk from the "Barcroft" Apartments onto buses over to a school outside of their neighborhood on the other side of Columbia Pike. I don't know what on earth you're smoking, but it's some pretty good stuff.

And I will add, right now the area I’m discussing crosses George Mason. They cross a major road right now. There are still plenty of apartments that would still be zoned to the school.

They are in the Randolph walk zone. They are not in the Barcroft walk zone.

No they don't. Walk zones are entirely determined by the physical location of the school and it's surrounding streets.

So you can have overlapping walk zones.

They are not moving kids who walk to Randolph on an established and safe walking route over to Barcroft, which is further away. There's literally no reason that they would do this. The kids live in Douglas Park. They go to school in Douglas Park. The end.

Half of Douglas Park doesn’t go to Randolph. The neighborhood is split right now. What I’m saying makes much more sense than what is currently happening. Half the neighborhood is buses now. If this change were to happen everyone would be a walker.
This really isn’t a outlandish idea.

And the buses go to which school?

Right now the buses go to Hoffman Boston

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Anonymous wrote:They're not going to do any of this. You cray. Certainly not any sort of tracking or "school within a school." Just move already. That's what they're going to tell you.

Not cray. This is exactly what they did on the north side 25 years ago. It’s been done before.

Go watch the SB meeting where the department of instruction basically said this (meaning tracking) was a huge mistake of the previous generation that won't be repeated. FFS, unless the Super and all his staff and at least 3/5 SB members leave in the next 6 months you're on a fool's errand. Randolph has IB, but it's for every student at the school not just some in a special program. They're not going to force out the neighborhood kids who can walk from the "Barcroft" Apartments onto buses over to a school outside of their neighborhood on the other side of Columbia Pike. I don't know what on earth you're smoking, but it's some pretty good stuff.

And I will add, right now the area I’m discussing crosses George Mason. They cross a major road right now. There are still plenty of apartments that would still be zoned to the school.

They are in the Randolph walk zone. They are not in the Barcroft walk zone.

No they don't. Walk zones are entirely determined by the physical location of the school and it's surrounding streets.

So you can have overlapping walk zones.

They are not moving kids who walk to Randolph on an established and safe walking route over to Barcroft, which is further away. There's literally no reason that they would do this. The kids live in Douglas Park. They go to school in Douglas Park. The end.

Half of Douglas Park doesn’t go to Randolph. The neighborhood is split right now. What I’m saying makes much more sense than what is currently happening. Half the neighborhood is buses now. If this change were to happen everyone would be a walker.
This really isn’t a outlandish idea.

And the buses go to which school?

Right now the buses go to Hoffman Boston

I'm looking at the map right now and I only see a section of DP that goes to Henry. None that go Hoffman Boston. Are you sure those kids aren't just in the pre-K program there? That area of DP looks like it will be pulled into the Drew boundary.

Randolph, with its current boundary, has no buses. This is exactly how they want it, so I would expect too much to change.

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Also, remember Claremont is not going to have a neighborhood guarantee any longer. So those kids have to be dispersed. I think a lot of them will be pulled into Drew. This is going to be such a CF. I think there's a good chance that some of the option programs get moved.

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Anonymous wrote:They're not going to do any of this. You cray. Certainly not any sort of tracking or "school within a school." Just move already. That's what they're going to tell you.

Not cray. This is exactly what they did on the north side 25 years ago. It’s been done before.

Go watch the SB meeting where the department of instruction basically said this (meaning tracking) was a huge mistake of the previous generation that won't be repeated. FFS, unless the Super and all his staff and at least 3/5 SB members leave in the next 6 months you're on a fool's errand. Randolph has IB, but it's for every student at the school not just some in a special program. They're not going to force out the neighborhood kids who can walk from the "Barcroft" Apartments onto buses over to a school outside of their neighborhood on the other side of Columbia Pike. I don't know what on earth you're smoking, but it's some pretty good stuff.

And I will add, right now the area I’m discussing crosses George Mason. They cross a major road right now. There are still plenty of apartments that would still be zoned to the school.

They are in the Randolph walk zone. They are not in the Barcroft walk zone.

No they don't. Walk zones are entirely determined by the physical location of the school and it's surrounding streets.

So you can have overlapping walk zones.

They are not moving kids who walk to Randolph on an established and safe walking route over to Barcroft, which is further away. There's literally no reason that they would do this. The kids live in Douglas Park. They go to school in Douglas Park. The end.

Half of Douglas Park doesn’t go to Randolph. The neighborhood is split right now. What I’m saying makes much more sense than what is currently happening. Half the neighborhood is buses now. If this change were to happen everyone would be a walker.
This really isn’t a outlandish idea.

And the buses go to which school?

Right now the buses go to Hoffman Boston

I'm looking at the map right now and I only see a section of DP that goes to Henry. None that go Hoffman Boston. Are you sure those kids aren't just in the pre-K program there? That area of DP looks like it will be pulled into the Drew boundary.

Randolph, with its current boundary, has no buses. This is exactly how they want it, so I would expect too much to change.

Please look at the map again. Part of the neighborhood is very clearly zoned HOFFMAN BOSTON. Look at the corner or 4 mile and Walter reed.
And nowhere have I stayed buses would GO TO Randolph.
What I am proposing keeps everyone as a walker.