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Anonymous
| PP -- no -- it doesn't seem so |
Anonymous
| Now is crunch time -- we are helping our son to apply to college from STA. The problem is there are so many smart kids that he may be blocked from getting into a top college. I have a question -- he is good enough to be recruited to DI lax -- he's already been ivited for official visits. He's not sure he wants to play though. Would he need to play for 4 years if he accepts a recruitment spot? We're honest people so we want to do what's right. Does anyone have an honest answer to this question. Please save rude/nasty remarks. We're getting stressed. |
Anonymous
| Good question. Where are you from that you are so honest? I"m sorry I don't know the answer. |
Anonymous
| Ah -- if your son honestly decides he will at least stick with lax for a year -- athletic recruitment can only guarantee a scholarship for one year under NCAA rules. I realize Ivies don't give athletic scholarships -- but the recruitment means a lot to get a child admitted. I would suggest a family meeting with the coach to go over this. Your son would be turning down a big opportunity -- I would think twice about it. It is really hard to get into a top college from any school -- but ironically -- it's very hard to get into a top college from an elite school like STA. Good luck! Our daughter chose the recruitment route and is really happy -- being on a sports team means having an instant family. And, if your son is being looked at by an Ivy -- the Ivies have "moratoriums" on the amount of practice kids can have...it's not like a DI public university where a lot of kids don't graduate in 5 years because there is too much practice time and it's hard to get some of the courses in a normal 4 year timeframe. |
Anonymous
| I agree with PP -- I wouldn't be quick to turn down a lax recruitment. Bill Bowen, former President of Princeton, wrote several books. One was about athletic recruitment at the Ivies. He claims people have 4x greater chance of getting in Ivies w/ athletic recruitment than w/o. If I were your son -- I wouldn't gamble and I would go for the lax spot. |
Anonymous
I think the question is would he have to play more than a year to stay at the school if he decided he didn't want to play anymore? |
Anonymous
He'd have to play lax to keep the athletic scholarship, but if he dropped lax, he wouldn't be kicked out of school; you'd just have to pay his tuition. Ivies don't give athletic scholarships, but he'd still be enrolled if he dropped lax. It is unethical and will affect STA (and Malcolm Lester's) reputation if you use his lax hook to get him into a school to which he otherwise might not have been accepted, and then he promptly drops out. I heard somewhere that Dartmouth was ticked off that their St. Stephens lax recruits were using this ploy to gain admission. |
Anonymous
| Ah yes -- we're finally getting people who know the recruitment process on these posts. I totally agree with 2 previous posts. The question comes down to intent. No one should ever accept recruitment who doesn't not intend to really play. Injuries are another story ... |
Anonymous
| I agree wtih previous post. An athletic recruit stands/represents his/her high school. If he/she acts in an unbecoming/unethical way -- he/she will burn future kids from that high school. An athletic recruit has a lot more on his/her shoulders then then the normal admit. |
Anonymous
| Agree too with PPs. It is considered verboten to accept an athletic recruitment if one does not fully intend to play the sport for 4 years. Stuff does happen but people have to come in with completely pure intentions. |
Anonymous
| People often think/say "athletes have it easy" -- they really don't. On top of having to study/prepare for class -- most athletes (at least at DI Ivies discussed in these posts) -- have to practice at least 3 hours a day. |
Anonymous
| Dumb question -- what's "DI"? |
Anonymous
| PP -- DI means Division I - the most elite level of college athletics |
Anonymous
| i played ivy league soccer (as a walk on not recruit) at harvard. i knew plenty of recruits who didn't play all four years. most did for one at least but no requirement. Does undermine credibility of high school a bit if recruit doesn't show up to play at all, but once you;re in you're in. And yes, comparing my teammates on the soccer team (and knowing plenty of LAX players mens and women's) the standard for admission is A LOT lower. So if he is good enough to play DI will no doubt get into a better school than might otherwise. And one of posters point about instant family. i quit after two years. |
Anonymous
| It's a different set of rules for walk-ons vs. recruits. Since recruits received an admissions advantage - they have a higher responsibility to stay with the team...pp should have known that if he really played Ivy soccer |