College Acceptance/Matriculation Stats: NCS/STA, Holton/Landon

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I only read 2 or 3 pages, but honestly you guys are all clowns for thinking that kids just get into college because their parents are wealthy. I go to St. Albans right now, and I can tell you from experience that the reason the top of our classes go to ivies is because the top of our classes are extremely smart; it has nothing to do with wealth. I will concede a few things: a. we push a bunch of kids in through athletics, but none of these kids are dumb b. many of the kids who go to school with me are extremely affluent and had parents that went to ivy league schools. however, it is exceedingly rare that anyone gets into a top 10 school through "connections". for example, there were 4 or 5 kids who got into yale this year. all had sat scores of 2300+ except for 1 who was a nationally recruited runner. it's not that top private high school kids get free passes, and it also isn't really the quality of education. it's a combination of 2 things. the competitive atmosphere that pervades these high schools engenders success, and that these high schools are home to extremely qualified students in the first place, by any number of definitions. you heard it here first: you're kidding yourself if you think that STA kids are getting in because of their parents' money. i agree that there are huge educational advantages to being in the highest socioeconomic bracket, but not because of the fact that you can "buy" an ivy league ticket.

I am really getting tired of adults posing as students on these boards. There are so many inconsistencies in this post, it is pretty obvious this is a parent!

I've taught high school and the post actually does sound to me like it could be written like a high school student (a smart one, like the top kids at STA or many of the good hs students in this area). Among other things, generally only the students know the other students' scores -- they don't tell their parents but they do tell each other (boys are more open than girls, generally).

[Anonymous]

And how do we know you're not a poser posing as a poser-outer?

But seriously folks, I'm a parent of a high school junior and a college sophomore and I agree with the PP who opined that the poster from St. Alban's is really a student. Sounds exactly like what my kids would say on this topic and is written in the same style -- typical for an analytical kid with strong opinions who writes reasonably well. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if I know the poster, though I'd have to say, with all due respect, of course that I believe he is underestimating the legacy factor in admissions.

[Anonymous]

Some of the college matriculations (not acceptances; this is where the kids are going) from STA 2011 (from the last issue of the student newspaper; I think the graduating class size is 82 or 83). Seems pretty strong to me given the current college application environment:
Brown -- 1
Columbia -- 2
Cornell -- 3
Dartmouth -- 1
Davidson -- 1
Duke -- 3
Georgetown -- 2
Harvard -- 1
MIT -- 1
Northwestern -- 1
Princeton -- 1
Stanford -- 2
U.S. Naval Academy -- 1
Oxford University -- 1
University of Pennsylvania -- 1
UVA -- 3
Vanderbilt -- 1
Yale -- 4

[SAM2]

PP, would you mind sending me the full list? I'd really appreciate it. Send me a PM (private message) via DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pssst. This thread is a year old. Responding now is kind of pointless.

And yet, the issues haven't changed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some of the college matriculations (not acceptances; this is where the kids are going) from STA 2011 (from the last issue of the student newspaper; I think the graduating class size is 82 or 83). Seems pretty strong to me given the current college application environment:
Brown -- 1
Columbia -- 2
Cornell -- 3
Dartmouth -- 1
Davidson -- 1
Duke -- 3
Georgetown -- 2
Harvard -- 1
MIT -- 1
Northwestern -- 1
Princeton -- 1
Stanford -- 2
U.S. Naval Academy -- 1
Oxford University -- 1
University of Pennsylvania -- 1
UVA -- 3
Vanderbilt -- 1
Yale -- 4

Here is the Landon list:

Brown - 1
Penn -2
Princeton - 1
Harvard-1
Dartmouth - 3
Cornell - 2
Yale- 1
Davidson - 6
UVA - 2
Johns Hopkins -1
Amherst - 2
Colgate - 2
Naval Academy -1
Georgetown - 1
Stanford-1
Vanderbilt - 1

Out of 80 graduates, they did pretty well too.




http://www.landon.net/uploaded/documents/academics/College_Counseling/Matriculation_2011_060311.pdf

[Anonymous]

So for STA and Landon, what about the other 50+ students? isn't that where any difference would be apparent? top of the class at any school in metro areas are going to look like that, IMO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So for STA and Landon, what about the other 50+ students? isn't that where any difference would be apparent? top of the class at any school in metro areas are going to look like that, IMO.

Actually, both of those showings are impressive, particularly STA but Landon's too Top of the class doesn't look like that at most schools anymore; those Ivy acceptances are hard to come by.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, wow. Landon's list looks pretty strong. Regardless of Landon's reputation, which has taken a hit in recent year, it still remains a reputation institution. I think this shows that Landon is if not in the same tier, is very close to STA. However, if you take a look at any of the top 5 or 6 schools in this area(in my opinion, STA, Landon, Sidwell, NCS, Holton), all of their top end college matriculation is top notch. Then their other 50+ students tend to go to schools like UVA, Wake Forest, etc which are still fantastic schools.

[Anonymous]

are top notch*

[Anonymous]

Where is the bottom half attending?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where is the bottom half attending?

why don't you look at the college matriculation list

[Anonymous]

I am surprised at the number of University of Maryland attendees.

[Anonymous]

Nothing wrong with sending DC to UMD if you are a Maryland resident to take advantage of in - state tuition. Maryland honors offers a very touch academic environment.

[Anonymous]

Yes, University of Maryland's reputation has really gone up nationally. Prophets are without honor at home so a lot of folks in this area don't recognize the jump in MD's national reputation. With cost factored in it is an excellent choice.