Two paths to magnet program at Richard Montgomery High School

[Anonymous]

Here's your argument: MCPS promised me that all of the kids in my kid's classes would be other kids in that magnet program, but they didn't keep that promise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unless there home school does not offer IB which many do not.

They do. Why do you respond without actually knowing fact? There are several IB schools in MD. RM is the only one who advertise magnet IB.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Unless there home school does not offer IB which many do not.

They do. Why do you respond without actually knowing fact? There are several IB schools in MD. RM is the only one who advertise magnet IB.

There are 25 high schools in MCPS. 8 of the high schools -- including Richard Montgomery -- offer IB, which means that 17 do not offer IB.

(And then you don't think that the home-school students at Richard Montgomery should have access to the IB program at Richard Montgomery, so if you had your druthers, it would be 7 high schools that offered IB, and 18 that did not.)

[Anonymous]

There is no doubt that the amount this has been "advertised" has gone down over the last few years.

I may not have loved Ms H but she did try to keep this accurate.

"RM is the only one who advertise magnet IB."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What? Of course RM has kids from out of it boundaries? And since RM has over 2000 kids it would be quite viable without the magnet...though I know that was not the case 30 years ago when it was added.

What I intended to say was RM itself does not "allow" the OOB kids. Its based on an agreement with MCPS the magnet program takes the OOB kids, unless someone gets a COSA waiver.

As for RM being viable without the magnet kids, you are right about student strength. It was a low-performing school about to close due to performance reason. So, I am not sure what its state would be without the magnet program now. However, if RM administration and parents feel they do not gain anything from the magnet program, they should ask the county to move the magnet program from its school to another school instead of trying to undermine it. May be RM-Cluster parents should push for that.

No, the school was under enrolled. If it was ever a candidate for closing down, it was due to enrollment issues, not performance issues. If a school district were to close a school for low performance, you'd see a lot more schools closing down all over the country.

The "state" of RM would be fine with IB magnet. How do I know this? Look at JWMS performance.

Really stupid statement. Also, do you have any idea how much IB adding to your property value?

? Is this like saying the W schools wouldn't be any good and property values would tank if not for the wealthy families who live there? Yes, IB makes RM a good HS, as does all the wealth in the W schools. Take away the wealth, and W schools would be like every other regular HS in MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Sigh... I am just glad my kids graduated before this mess. The families of test-in kids are the only loser in this. Even a little drop in performance could mean a full ride at UMD vs. partial (or no) merit $. I don't see IB kids beating out Blair SMAC kids for the full ride scholarship.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sigh... I am just glad my kids graduated before this mess. The families of test-in kids are the only loser in this. Even a little drop in performance could mean a full ride at UMD vs. partial (or no) merit $. I don't see IB kids beating out Blair SMAC kids for the full ride scholarship.

If you read this whole thread you can see who is complaining. The RM-Cluster, Blair parents and who have no kids in the magnet program are perfectly happy with this change and see this as no big deal!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no doubt that the amount this has been "advertised" has gone down over the last few years.

I may not have loved Ms H but she did try to keep this accurate.

"RM is the only one who advertise magnet IB."

You have a child in HS, have you not sat through many evenings of power points where the school or MCPS is promoting some program? (Where's my recourse for the P I N ES, grading system, can I have those evenings back at least?) This is not legally binding, it's promotional materials, half of it is aspirational. You might look at what your DC's acceptance form actually states, I'm guessing it's essentially a COSA. There's not a case here (but, yeah, IANAL either). Your child has a cohort, your child has classes with their cohort can socialize with their cohort. If there are other students in the classes, how does that erase the cohort. This is like when the cohort joins the orchestra or goes to a football game, they will mix with the other students, sometimes they need the other students to have a full HS experience. This is a public HS, I don't think you can get them for false advertising because they are trying to educate more students than yours. Your true colors are showing as you begin bashing the purity of other programs.

[Anonymous]

I'm starting to wish "I was promised all magnet kids" poster would just move her kids to private and be done with it. At a public school, your kid will occasionally rub shoulders, and even share classes, with kids who don't meet your high standards.

You're going to have to cope with that, or just shell out for an environment in which every single snowflake is hand selected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm starting to wish "I was promised all magnet kids" poster would just move her kids to private and be done with it. At a public school, your kid will occasionally rub shoulders, and even share classes, with kids who don't meet your high standards.

You're going to have to cope with that, or just shell out for an environment in which every single snowflake is hand selected.

That's about right, except apparently that DC is nearly finished at RMIB. This whole thread is just PSA to incoming parents, so they can carry on the fine tradition of harassing the director now that OP must move on. The open house is tomorrow night, I'm thinking no one has their pitch forks quite yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm starting to wish "I was promised all magnet kids" poster would just move her kids to private and be done with it. At a public school, your kid will occasionally rub shoulders, and even share classes, with kids who don't meet your high standards.

You're going to have to cope with that, or just shell out for an environment in which every single snowflake is hand selected.

Calling magnet parents/students "snowflake", "elitist" or "purist" does not make school/MCPS's dishonesty or duplicity about the program go away. You do not own the public school system. I have same right to critic a opaque system. Just because you do not appreciate academic giftedness in kids and their specific need does not make you more correct in this discussion. My high standard is to hold public officials to honesty and integrity standard.

This thread is about what MCPS says to the community and what is actually does behind the curtain. Having a backdoor is not okay. Magnet programs should operate to fulfill their promise or should be closed so that parents can decide what to do with their kids education. Lip service about gifted education is what MCPS is doing for a while and I do not condone playing politics with the education of our future generation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm starting to wish "I was promised all magnet kids" poster would just move her kids to private and be done with it. At a public school, your kid will occasionally rub shoulders, and even share classes, with kids who don't meet your high standards.

You're going to have to cope with that, or just shell out for an environment in which every single snowflake is hand selected.

That's about right, except apparently that DC is nearly finished at RMIB. This whole thread is just PSA to incoming parents, so they can carry on the fine tradition of harassing the director now that OP must move on. The open house is tomorrow night, I'm thinking no one has their pitch forks quite yet.

Are you nasty in real life too? What is this tradition you are talking about. What is wrong in providing parents more information? Why cannot public official operate in transparency and respond to parents question? Why should any admission or selection operate in secrecy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm starting to wish "I was promised all magnet kids" poster would just move her kids to private and be done with it. At a public school, your kid will occasionally rub shoulders, and even share classes, with kids who don't meet your high standards.

You're going to have to cope with that, or just shell out for an environment in which every single snowflake is hand selected.

Calling magnet parents/students "snowflake", "elitist" or "purist" does not make school/MCPS's dishonesty or duplicity about the program go away. You do not own the public school system. I have same right to critic a opaque system. Just because you do not appreciate academic giftedness in kids and their specific need does not make you more correct in this discussion. My high standard is to hold public officials to honesty and integrity standard.

This thread is about what MCPS says to the community and what is actually does behind the curtain. Having a backdoor is not okay. Magnet programs should operate to fulfill their promise or should be closed so that parents can decide what to do with their kids education. Lip service about gifted education is what MCPS is doing for a while and I do not condone playing politics with the education of our future generation.

So, how long are you going to keep calling your child "highly gifted?" Into college? At their first job? Will you call their future boss and make sure their boss understands that they cannot possibly be subjected to the masses?

It honestly seems like an odd framing for a 17 year-old. It's a framing you normally see applied to elementary and middle schoolers, not young people on the cusp of adulthood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Are you nasty in real life too? What is this tradition you are talking about. What is wrong in providing parents more information? Why cannot public official operate in transparency and respond to parents question? Why should any admission or selection operate in secrecy?

Because federal law requires it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm starting to wish "I was promised all magnet kids" poster would just move her kids to private and be done with it. At a public school, your kid will occasionally rub shoulders, and even share classes, with kids who don't meet your high standards.

You're going to have to cope with that, or just shell out for an environment in which every single snowflake is hand selected.

Calling magnet parents/students "snowflake", "elitist" or "purist" does not make school/MCPS's dishonesty or duplicity about the program go away. You do not own the public school system. I have same right to critic a opaque system. Just because you do not appreciate academic giftedness in kids and their specific need does not make you more correct in this discussion. My high standard is to hold public officials to honesty and integrity standard.

This thread is about what MCPS says to the community and what is actually does behind the curtain. Having a backdoor is not okay. Magnet programs should operate to fulfill their promise or should be closed so that parents can decide what to do with their kids education. Lip service about gifted education is what MCPS is doing for a while and I do not condone playing politics with the education of our future generation.

So, how long are you going to keep calling your child "highly gifted?" Into college? At their first job? Will you call their future boss and make sure their boss understands that they cannot possibly be subjected to the masses?

It honestly seems like an odd framing for a 17 year-old. It's a framing you normally see applied to elementary and middle schoolers, not young people on the cusp of adulthood.

If you believe this why do not you advocate for MCPS to abolish all the magnet programs. I would support it if you do that. I did not create the magnet school system. I am only asking the system the operate the way it was intended to do. If it cannot, there is no reason to waste public money and time with all these identification of qualified students in 8th grade and then opening up a backdoor later. MCPS parents with special need for their students can decide whether to stay in the public school system or go somewhere else.