Dirty secret about an industry that you have worked in?

[Anonymous]

Salesperson here. We know you told us to leave you alone with our cold calls, but chances are, we're not going to unless you bring in some legal action. Until then, you're fair game. We also have no idea what's going on in terms of the products we sell or their features; our products team does that, so go talk to them. Everything I tell you, including reactions to objections, is read off a script more or less. The kids that go work for us straight out of college, with a few exceptions, aren't the sharpest crayons in the box and are more than happy to earn a meager salary as long as they get free booze at happy hour and can go party the second work ends. We also don't earn anywhere as much as glorified sales movies will have you believe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Salesperson here. We know you told us to leave you alone with our cold calls, but chances are, we're not going to unless you bring in some legal action. Until then, you're fair game. We also have no idea what's going on in terms of the products we sell or their features; our products team does that, so go talk to them. Everything I tell you, including reactions to objections, is read off a script more or less. The kids that go work for us straight out of college, with a few exceptions, aren't the sharpest crayons in the box and are more than happy to earn a meager salary as long as they get free booze at happy hour and can go party the second work ends. We also don't earn anywhere as much as glorified sales movies will have you believe.

Ummm...no shit, to all of this. Anyone who didn't think this about sales prior to reading your post isn't very smart.

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Anonymous wrote:Salesperson here. We know you told us to leave you alone with our cold calls, but chances are, we're not going to unless you bring in some legal action. Until then, you're fair game. We also have no idea what's going on in terms of the products we sell or their features; our products team does that, so go talk to them. Everything I tell you, including reactions to objections, is read off a script more or less. The kids that go work for us straight out of college, with a few exceptions, aren't the sharpest crayons in the box and are more than happy to earn a meager salary as long as they get free booze at happy hour and can go party the second work ends. We also don't earn anywhere as much as glorified sales movies will have you believe.

Ummm...no shit, to all of this. Anyone who didn't think this about sales prior to reading your post isn't very smart.

You'd be surprised! A lot of young kids are telling their (equally uninformed) peers about people like Gary Vaynerchuk and Tim Ferriss and how they all promote "working in sales" and how it's "such a cash cow." Never mind that Vaynerchuk and Ferriss are both hucksters ...

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Anonymous wrote:I worked in a nonprofit where they got government and private funds to do educational programming and most of the charges to the government were fabricated. They made up nonexistent people and billed for a percentage of their salaries. I was asked to sign off on something where I was doing all the work and getting about 50K and they billed the government for a nonexistent employee who was supposedly getting 95K and then they pocketed the difference. I found another job.
And the head of the nonprofit was using donated funds to pay his mortgage on his house and his car payments. Claimed they were business expenses.

I currently work at a nonprofit, and this runs very contradictory to my experiences working with federal funding and donations. Reputable non-profits undergo auditing each year and have a Board that is very invested in the nonprofit's work.

Me too. At my nonprofit we have to account for literally every penny we spend from government grants. My executive director is always talking about how we need to be responsible stewards of our funds, and we take it very seriously. I'm sure there are bad nonprofits out there but they're definitely not all that way.

I work at a non profit and run our finances and audit every year. I practically have to provide those CPAs with body fluids. There is NO WAY I could pull anything over on them.

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Anonymous wrote:Salesperson here. We know you told us to leave you alone with our cold calls, but chances are, we're not going to unless you bring in some legal action. Until then, you're fair game. We also have no idea what's going on in terms of the products we sell or their features; our products team does that, so go talk to them. Everything I tell you, including reactions to objections, is read off a script more or less. The kids that go work for us straight out of college, with a few exceptions, aren't the sharpest crayons in the box and are more than happy to earn a meager salary as long as they get free booze at happy hour and can go party the second work ends. We also don't earn anywhere as much as glorified sales movies will have you believe.

Ummm...no shit, to all of this. Anyone who didn't think this about sales prior to reading your post isn't very smart.

You'd be surprised! A lot of young kids are telling their (equally uninformed) peers about people like Gary Vaynerchuk and Tim Ferriss and how they all promote "working in sales" and how it's "such a cash cow." Never mind that Vaynerchuk and Ferriss are both hucksters ...

Yeah. My husband is in sales and makes 3-400k depending on the year. This year hopefully 5ook. He has stock options worth 800k. I got so lucky in sales as a college drop out and was making 200k.

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Anonymous wrote:Sibley Drs, nurses, staff are gossips. It is not uncommon to hear Drs trash patients or their colleagues. Major unprofessional culture.

Oh, I can back this one up. It's part of why I avoided specific pediatricians when my kids needed one. Lots of gossip about the kids and their parents.

Yes. A relative works there and is a total busybody. Talks to me about work people and I don't even know who they are!

That would be HIPAA violation

Not exactly. In my case I'm referring to talking about non-patients. Seems the environment there tends toward a more chatty work culture.

Between medical "professionals", HIPAA is a joke.

Accurate.

They may not name them when talking about them, but it'll be "the holidays weren't kind of the patient in 7. She's up 12 lbs." "Someone else is going to have to do the blood draw on the patient in 3 because I can't stand her grandma perfume."

I have a good friend who is a therapist and she has the best stories. She doesn't name her patients to me (crazy mom, OCD cat dude, etc.) or our other friends to protect them, but she definitely spills the beans. OCD cat dude is a highly entertaining almost soap opera like tale.

I have a friend who is a Genetics Counselor at a major, well-known high risk OB-GYN practice in the area, and she has told me all of the HORRIBLE things one of the doctor's has said about his patients to his staff. Stuff like he can't believe anyone would ever sleep with this person because they are so overweight, etc. I would NEVER, EVER go to this practice as a result.

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Anonymous wrote:Salesperson here. We know you told us to leave you alone with our cold calls, but chances are, we're not going to unless you bring in some legal action. Until then, you're fair game. We also have no idea what's going on in terms of the products we sell or their features; our products team does that, so go talk to them. Everything I tell you, including reactions to objections, is read off a script more or less. The kids that go work for us straight out of college, with a few exceptions, aren't the sharpest crayons in the box and are more than happy to earn a meager salary as long as they get free booze at happy hour and can go party the second work ends. We also don't earn anywhere as much as glorified sales movies will have you believe.

Ummm...no shit, to all of this. Anyone who didn't think this about sales prior to reading your post isn't very smart.

You'd be surprised! A lot of young kids are telling their (equally uninformed) peers about people like Gary Vaynerchuk and Tim Ferriss and how they all promote "working in sales" and how it's "such a cash cow." Never mind that Vaynerchuk and Ferriss are both hucksters ...

Yeah. My husband is in sales and makes 3-400k depending on the year. This year hopefully 5ook. He has stock options worth 800k. I got so lucky in sales as a college drop out and was making 200k.

My neighbor also works in sales (medical equipment) and makes really good money. I have a feeling the PP who wrote the dirty secret works at a call center, not really in sales.

[Anonymous]

Exactly. Believe me when my husband is presenting to 5 star generals and at the pentagon.....he's not reading from a script.

I think Pp is a telemarketer who was told they had a job in sales

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Believe me when my husband is presenting to 5 star generals and at the pentagon.....he's not reading from a script.

I think Pp is a telemarketer who was told they had a job in sales

I think PP (the one who posted the dirty secret, not Pentagon PP) works at either CEB, Hanover or ABC.

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H-1B fraud is one of the top two visa categories for fraud throughout Mission India. All posts regularly encounter inflated or fabricated educational and employment qualifications. The vast majority of these documents come from Hyderabad. In the 18 months prior to the start-up of consular operations in Hyderabad, FPU Chennai investigated 150 companies in Hyderabad, 77 percent of which turned out to be fraudulent or highly suspect (ref F). Most of those cases slated for site visits were to verify the experience letters for H-1B applicants who did not meet minimum educational qualifications

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[Anonymous]

I'd think twice about ordering tap beers. The tubes that deliver the beer are rarely - if ever - cleaned or changed. They get this ick that builds up in them. I never order tap beer! Also, bars themselves are pretty filthy. Only one bar I worked at would close for a Spring Cleaning and really scrub down the entire place. Otherwise it was just a mop or a broom, and call it quits.
~Former bartender.

[Anonymous]

I used to be neighbors with my MIL's physician.

We were acquaintances only. I have an unusual surname, so by way of introduction, neighbor doctor asked if I was perhaps to MIL. When I acknowledged that I was, neighbor immediately offered that MIL is a patient and how terrible it is that MIL has (specific symptoms) and has to take (medication name).

Another time, ran into doc who was accompanied by one of *her*family members. Doc introduced me gave a brief backstory to her relative " her MIL is my patient" and then decided to tell me how I could best assist my MIL with her medical problem.

I never told my MIL about these incidents - MIL would be mortified-especially because she really liked this doctor.

[Anonymous]

When I was in graduate school, I worked at a tutoring center. We saw a fraction of a fraction of what the parents paid hourly; my students thought it was such a cushy job because they assumed we got most of the pay.

I was promoted to an administrative position, and was told to sell hours at the highest rate, no matter what the student's test scores looked like. The student could be flunking out, or getting the highest SAT score, and I had to try to get the same money, as well as assuring every parent that the use of our center could absolutely get their child into HYP.

I felt so gross, I quit after just a couple of weeks in the office. I would have loved to have been a tutor again, but they wouldn't let me demote myself.

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Anonymous wrote:When I was in graduate school, I worked at a tutoring center. We saw a fraction of a fraction of what the parents paid hourly; my students thought it was such a cushy job because they assumed we got most of the pay.

I was promoted to an administrative position, and was told to sell hours at the highest rate, no matter what the student's test scores looked like. The student could be flunking out, or getting the highest SAT score, and I had to try to get the same money, as well as assuring every parent that the use of our center could absolutely get their child into HYP.

I felt so gross, I quit after just a couple of weeks in the office. I would have loved to have been a tutor again, but they wouldn't let me demote myself.

I just took a corporate course for my job and I wonder if its the same. If my company is paying $3,000 for a 4-night course, how much is the instructor standing in front of the room making???

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Anonymous wrote:Feds don't hire the best and brightest. They hire people who are willing to wait 3+ months after an interview for a job offer.

LOL, yup. It's also so freaking hard to get fired. Same for state government.

Yup. I worked at one government agency where they touted how we new hires were "the best and the brightest". Amusing because first, they had no idea that David Halberstam did not use that wording in a complementary matter (irony lost) and second, no way in hell were the best minds in America waiting 12 months for a start date - they had long since joined Goldman or McKinsey.

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haha. I know exactly what you're talking about. Those people are definitely not "the best and the brightest."

Depends on the agency. Some divisions of DOJ are extremely competitive and do get the creme de la creme.

Really? Which ones?