New York teen accepted to all 8 Ivy League schools

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Anonymous wrote:If Nigerians are into academics and science, where are they? I have not heard of any Nigerians at TJ (I have seen 1 from Caribbean Island) and there virtually none (probably 1 or 2) in my son's math/science/engineering classes at his university. 80-90% are Asians/white.

Your world sounds quite small and VA-centric. Not everyone is interested in the TJ to UVA pipeline. It appears that you'll find all the Nigerians you'll ever need at Ivy League universities. According to this NY Times article, many Nigerians appear a lot more interested in business and finance and, specifically, Harvard Business School. I'll re-post this for your education and enlightenment:

Yes, Amy Chua ("Tiger Mom") wrote about Nigerians in her most recent book. This is from the NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/26/opinion/sunday/what-drives-success.html?_r=0

There are some black and Hispanic groups in America that far outperform some white and Asian groups. Immigrants from many West Indian and African countries, such as Jamaica, Ghana, and Haiti, are climbing America’s higher education ladder, but perhaps the most prominent are Nigerians. Nigerians make up less than 1 percent of the black population in the United States, yet in 2013 nearly one-quarter of the black students at Harvard Business School were of Nigerian ancestry; over a fourth of Nigerian-Americans have a graduate or professional degree, as compared with only about 11 percent of whites.

So they don't go for the difficult STEM majors and go where they get the most boost. Remember, George Bush went to HBS as well.

Unlike GWB, NONE of them have fathers who were president of the United States, or grandfathers who were U.S. senators. But somehow, they ended up at, inarguably, the best business school on the planet. They're 1 percent of the black population in the U.S., but they make up nearly 25% of black HBS students. That's nothing short of amazing!

Btw, they're also pretty savvy to go where the money is, don't you think? Most TJ students end up as what, scientists and engineers? That's nice, but it doesn't pay like Wall Street. Most TJ students do not become Bill Gates.

What is the fascination with Wall Street? Having to live in New York and work on Wall Street is something I would never wish for my kids.

+100 Scientists and engineers contribute to the economy and create jobs. It is said that the tech sector carried US economy out of the great recession/financial crisis of the 2008-2009 caused by the Wall Street,

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Preschooler is doing fine. Spending the day going to museums with Dad while I'm at wk.

Ok, so I do have a more serious contribution. Why all the criticism for applying to all 8 Ivies? Presumably the kid applied at age 17, when lots of different types of college settings may appeal to her. Yes they're all very different, but a determined, self-motivated kid may be able to thrive at any of them. If she felt like she had what it takes to be a competitive candidate at each of them, then why not apply?

Well, she is obviously not entitled like other boys (lacrosse athletes) who may wish to play only in the Ivy League or the ACC. She's terrific soccer player and may only want toppled in the Ivy League. I few let bone heads who only want to play football in the SEC select only SEC schools for recruiting purposes why can't we let a female athlete do the same?

Why does it even concern folk on DCUM? Envy and jealousy runs deep in the middling mid-Atlantic leagues.

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I can understand your point about certain college leagues. I know of several boys who for whatever historical/traditional/fancy reasons only want to play ball in certain leagues (PAC 12, Big Ten, ACC, Ivy). These simpletons never get ripped apart for restricting most of their college choices to certain leagues. It seems stupid to waste all this type on a 17-year-old girl who prefers the Ivy league to your league! Plain stupid, I'd say, more in keeping with a communist state and mentality rather than the respect for individual rights and wishes laid out by our US constitution.

Perhaps, as many posters say, this is more a symptom of jealousy and envy veiled in weak and fact-less criticism.

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No one complains about students applying to east coast NE liberal arts colleges? I know many but then agin they don't get into all of them

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Whenever a student gets into every college they apply to they a criticized for applying to too many instead of only one. The problem here is most of us ( and certainly minorities and immigrants) do not know in advance which colleges they will get into unless your Dad is signing a check for the Football stadium or the new Science building.

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If any school expects $80K for a year's tuition, stay and books I am damn well going to apply to 8 and let the bidding begin. You must take me for a financial fool otherwise. Just what a Wharton education or private equity expert would advise...nothing less.

Go girl!

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I support Trump, as many do particularly European Americans (Whites), and he would argue that not paying taxes and filing for bankrupcy on a routine schedule/basis is simply good business -- everything is legal and working within the rules of the game for advantage.

Trump should make this college applicant his running mate!

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Isn't it hypocritically hilarious how many people openly condemn minorities for applying and getting into 8 Ivy League universities (e.g., top law firms in Boston and New York, or top Investment Banks in New York, or top 5 US medical schools) but would secretly heap praise and reward on their own for similar accomplishments.

Some "wise men" call it human nature.

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Go girl.

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If any school expects $80K for a year's tuition, stay and books I am damn well going to apply to 8 and let the bidding begin. You must take me for a financial fool otherwise. Just what a Wharton education or private equity expert would advise...nothing less.

Go girl!

If this strategy of seeking the highest bidder for your services is good for a millionaire/billionaire (several generations) why not for a poor ole country immigrant!
I guess it all depends on the perspective and who is peering through that looking glass?

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You're right. And that successful student doesn't give a farthing for what some dummie thinks about her admissions to college. She is getting the last hearty laugh and that's all that matters.

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Anonymous wrote:If Nigerians are into academics and science, where are they? I have not heard of any Nigerians at TJ (I have seen 1 from Caribbean Island) and there virtually none (probably 1 or 2) in my son's math/science/engineering classes at his university. 80-90% are Asians/white.

Your world sounds quite small and VA-centric. Not everyone is interested in the TJ to UVA pipeline. It appears that you'll find all the Nigerians you'll ever need at Ivy League universities. According to this NY Times article, many Nigerians appear a lot more interested in business and finance and, specifically, Harvard Business School. I'll re-post this for your education and enlightenment:

Yes, Amy Chua ("Tiger Mom") wrote about Nigerians in her most recent book. This is from the NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/26/opinion/sunday/what-drives-success.html?_r=0

There are some black and Hispanic groups in America that far outperform some white and Asian groups. Immigrants from many West Indian and African countries, such as Jamaica, Ghana, and Haiti, are climbing America’s higher education ladder, but perhaps the most prominent are Nigerians. Nigerians make up less than 1 percent of the black population in the United States, yet in 2013 nearly one-quarter of the black students at Harvard Business School were of Nigerian ancestry; over a fourth of Nigerian-Americans have a graduate or professional degree, as compared with only about 11 percent of whites.

So they don't go for the difficult STEM majors and go where they get the most boost. Remember, George Bush went to HBS as well.

Unlike GWB, NONE of them have fathers who were president of the United States, or grandfathers who were U.S. senators. But somehow, they ended up at, inarguably, the best business school on the planet. They're 1 percent of the black population in the U.S., but they make up nearly 25% of black HBS students. That's nothing short of amazing!

Btw, they're also pretty savvy to go where the money is, don't you think? Most TJ students end up as what, scientists and engineers? That's nice, but it doesn't pay like Wall Street. Most TJ students do not become Bill Gates.

What is the fascination with Wall Street? Having to live in New York and work on Wall Street is something I would never wish for my kids.

+100 Scientists and engineers contribute to the economy and create jobs. It is said that the tech sector carried US economy out of the great recession/financial crisis of the 2008-2009 caused by the Wall Street,

You sound confused, dears. I don't have any "fascination" with Wall Street. And this was never a conversation about who contributes more to society. The U.S. is a capitalist society, and Wall Street is the embodiment of capitalism. In this country, money serves as a proxy for respect; and even presidents have to kiss Godfather Wall Street's ring (whether they like it or not). If you take issue with this fact, perhaps you should consider moving to a country whose values are more aligned with yours (and where rank and file engineers and scientists are at the top of the socioeconomic hierarchy).

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Many posters on this other thread recognize that the "Ivy" label doesn't mean everything. Some people go to college for the education.
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/550030.page

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Anonymous wrote:If Nigerians are into academics and science, where are they? I have not heard of any Nigerians at TJ (I have seen 1 from Caribbean Island) and there virtually none (probably 1 or 2) in my son's math/science/engineering classes at his university. 80-90% are Asians/white.

Your world sounds quite small and VA-centric. Not everyone is interested in the TJ to UVA pipeline. It appears that you'll find all the Nigerians you'll ever need at Ivy League universities. According to this NY Times article, many Nigerians appear a lot more interested in business and finance and, specifically, Harvard Business School. I'll re-post this for your education and enlightenment:

Yes, Amy Chua ("Tiger Mom") wrote about Nigerians in her most recent book. This is from the NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/26/opinion/sunday/what-drives-success.html?_r=0

There are some black and Hispanic groups in America that far outperform some white and Asian groups. Immigrants from many West Indian and African countries, such as Jamaica, Ghana, and Haiti, are climbing America’s higher education ladder, but perhaps the most prominent are Nigerians. Nigerians make up less than 1 percent of the black population in the United States, yet in 2013 nearly one-quarter of the black students at Harvard Business School were of Nigerian ancestry; over a fourth of Nigerian-Americans have a graduate or professional degree, as compared with only about 11 percent of whites.

So they don't go for the difficult STEM majors and go where they get the most boost. Remember, George Bush went to HBS as well.

Unlike GWB, NONE of them have fathers who were president of the United States, or grandfathers who were U.S. senators. But somehow, they ended up at, inarguably, the best business school on the planet. They're 1 percent of the black population in the U.S., but they make up nearly 25% of black HBS students. That's nothing short of amazing!

Btw, they're also pretty savvy to go where the money is, don't you think? Most TJ students end up as what, scientists and engineers? That's nice, but it doesn't pay like Wall Street. Most TJ students do not become Bill Gates.

What is the fascination with Wall Street? Having to live in New York and work on Wall Street is something I would never wish for my kids.

+100 Scientists and engineers contribute to the economy and create jobs. It is said that the tech sector carried US economy out of the great recession/financial crisis of the 2008-2009 caused by the Wall Street,

You sound confused, dears. I don't have any "fascination" with Wall Street. And this was never a conversation about who contributes more to society. The U.S. is a capitalist society, and Wall Street is the embodiment of capitalism. In this country, money serves as a proxy for respect; and even presidents have to kiss Godfather Wall Street's ring (whether they like it or not). If you take issue with this fact, perhaps you should consider moving to a country whose values are more aligned with yours (and where rank and file engineers and scientists are at the top of the socioeconomic hierarchy).

You keep thinking like that and we may have another financial crisis that could threaten the entire global economy.

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Many posters on this other thread recognize that the "Ivy" label doesn't mean everything. Some people go to college for the education.
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/550030.page

I gather she is also going to college for an education + much more. Some wish for more. Do you have a bone with that.