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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm still prepared to vote for someone whose policies make the most sense to the most people. I'm very disappointed that other big American political entities aren't ready to take that leap, too.


So you think Bernie's policies make the most sense to the most people? Pretty sure that remains to be seen.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm still prepared to vote for someone whose policies make the most sense to the most people. I'm very disappointed that other big American political entities aren't ready to take that leap, too.


Sadly on the Democrat side, "other big American political entities" were paid off by The Clintons in an attempt to get Hillary into the White House.
Can't understand how people could vote for her knowing this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm still prepared to vote for someone whose policies make the most sense to the most people. I'm very disappointed that other big American political entities aren't ready to take that leap, too.


So you think Bernie's policies make the most sense to the most people? Pretty sure that remains to be seen.


I know, right? You'd think 25 years in the Senate would give the dude a long list of accomplishments. Pathetically, his supporters don't even know this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm still prepared to vote for someone whose policies make the most sense to the most people. I'm very disappointed that other big American political entities aren't ready to take that leap, too.


So you think Bernie's policies make the most sense to the most people? Pretty sure that remains to be seen.


Yes, I do. Canadian and European relatives made something out of nothing by having affordable university (from immigrants with dust in their pockets to doctors, lawyers, physicists, engineers, chemists and professional musicians, teachers, and designers in half a generation). Cancer and heart operations addressed by universal health care. Time to raise children with guaranteed leave and vacation as a family. Early adoption of low-carbon, low-pollution policies and practices. Good infrastructure with enviable roads, bridges, schools, parks, among others.

Used to be that in the 1970s I felt boastful of what I had as an American. The tables turned. Sharply.
Anonymous
Sanders is not a serious candidate. He'd be a disaster as President. I'd probably vote for Bush/Rubio/Christie over Sanders. Not Cruz or Trump though, but that's because they're just as terrible.
Anonymous
My only concern about Bernie Sanders is that he is not a well-oiled, smooth politician. Can he shake the right hands and apply the right pressures to get things done? Can he fight against the corruption and cronyism that is endemic to our local and national political and business leaders? I don't know...
Anonymous
If America votes in Bernie, he's going to need massive public support to move and shake. I don't doubt him when he says the biggest thing standing between the vision and the enactment is a massive swelling "revolution" among the people. Corny? Maybe. But I think that's what it's going to take.

I hope we have it in us to do it.
Anonymous
From the Christian Science Monitor:

"Clinton also has other ties to HRC leadership. HRC President Griffin, who began his career in the White House Press Office under President Bill Clinton, has voiced his personal support for Hillary. Some of HRC’s top corporate partners include CitiBank, Goldman Sachs, and Morgan Stanley – all three of which are also present on Clinton’s Top Ten Donor list."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
and this has nothing to do with the Democratic debate, anyway.


Gee. Hillary brought it up during the debate: "Nobody is too big to go to jail."


+1. What she did is way worse that what Gen Petraeus did.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm still prepared to vote for someone whose policies make the most sense to the most people. I'm very disappointed that other big American political entities aren't ready to take that leap, too.


Sadly on the Democrat side, "other big American political entities" were paid off by The Clintons in an attempt to get Hillary into the White House.
Can't understand how people could vote for her knowing this.


Because we don't believe a bunch of conspiracy theories? Sanders supporters are starting to act as ridiculous as the 90s Republicans who were willing to say and/or believe anything as long as it was anti-Clinton.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm still prepared to vote for someone whose policies make the most sense to the most people. I'm very disappointed that other big American political entities aren't ready to take that leap, too.


Sadly on the Democrat side, "other big American political entities" were paid off by The Clintons in an attempt to get Hillary into the White House.
Can't understand how people could vote for her knowing this.


Because we don't believe a bunch of conspiracy theories? Sanders supporters are starting to act as ridiculous as the 90s Republicans who were willing to say and/or believe anything as long as it was anti-Clinton.


Not true for this Sanders supporter. I support him because of his progressive ideas and consistent and persistent voicing of those ideas. Clinton is definitely inconsistent on various progressive ideas, which makes her out to be, well.... inconsistent. Clinton has plenty of dirt in her past. You either care about her inconsistent, dirty record, or you don't. You either ride an incremental approach to progress, or you don't. Personally, I feel like I don't have to vote for my second choice in the primaries. I'll "settle" in the national election. But not before then.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm still prepared to vote for someone whose policies make the most sense to the most people. I'm very disappointed that other big American political entities aren't ready to take that leap, too.


So you think Bernie's policies make the most sense to the most people? Pretty sure that remains to be seen.


I know, right? You'd think 25 years in the Senate would give the dude a long list of accomplishments. Pathetically, his supporters don't even know this.


Exactly this. He's got nothing to show for that time other than fiery speeches.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm still prepared to vote for someone whose policies make the most sense to the most people. I'm very disappointed that other big American political entities aren't ready to take that leap, too.


So you think Bernie's policies make the most sense to the most people? Pretty sure that remains to be seen.


I know, right? You'd think 25 years in the Senate would give the dude a long list of accomplishments. Pathetically, his supporters don't even know this.


Exactly this. He's got nothing to show for that time other than fiery speeches.


Yep. Same goes for Sanders and for HRC.

The only one with real-world accomplishments, in either party, is Trump
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm still prepared to vote for someone whose policies make the most sense to the most people. I'm very disappointed that other big American political entities aren't ready to take that leap, too.


Sadly on the Democrat side, "other big American political entities" were paid off by The Clintons in an attempt to get Hillary into the White House.
Can't understand how people could vote for her knowing this.


Because we don't believe a bunch of conspiracy theories? Sanders supporters are starting to act as ridiculous as the 90s Republicans who were willing to say and/or believe anything as long as it was anti-Clinton.


Not true for this Sanders supporter. I support him because of his progressive ideas and consistent and persistent voicing of those ideas. Clinton is definitely inconsistent on various progressive ideas, which makes her out to be, well.... inconsistent. Clinton has plenty of dirt in her past. You either care about her inconsistent, dirty record, or you don't. You either ride an incremental approach to progress, or you don't. Personally, I feel like I don't have to vote for my second choice in the primaries. I'll "settle" in the national election. But not before then.


If Bernie is the nominee, he will be hit by the Republican/fox slime squad just like Obama and the Clintons were. There will be the equivalent of northern and Rev. wright attacks, that much I can guarantee. No one gets through this process unsullied.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm still prepared to vote for someone whose policies make the most sense to the most people. I'm very disappointed that other big American political entities aren't ready to take that leap, too.


Sadly on the Democrat side, "other big American political entities" were paid off by The Clintons in an attempt to get Hillary into the White House.
Can't understand how people could vote for her knowing this.


Because we don't believe a bunch of conspiracy theories? Sanders supporters are starting to act as ridiculous as the 90s Republicans who were willing to say and/or believe anything as long as it was anti-Clinton.


Not true for this Sanders supporter. I support him because of his progressive ideas and consistent and persistent voicing of those ideas. Clinton is definitely inconsistent on various progressive ideas, which makes her out to be, well.... inconsistent. Clinton has plenty of dirt in her past. You either care about her inconsistent, dirty record, or you don't. You either ride an incremental approach to progress, or you don't. Personally, I feel like I don't have to vote for my second choice in the primaries. I'll "settle" in the national election. But not before then.


Bernie is as ineffective as sh!t. So yeah - he's been voicing the same ideas for 25 years but WITHOUT> ANY> RESULTS. I just don't get how you can vote for some one with this track record of the inability to lead and create supports so change can actually happen.
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