Prep for an IQ test?????

[Anonymous]

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What are the names of the schools your children attended? Are you interested in listing them on a public message board so you can be identified? The combination of names of schools my kids have attended would identify me to anyone from the schools my kids attended and the activities they were involved in. My kids are known by the kids still at their previous schools and organizations.

I actually don't care about the top or the best, that is just shorthand for knowing the general type of school my kids attend or attended. The parents of the children who spent so much time in test prep cared very much about the rank of schools and talked about it frequently. They were surprised at what they considered the "success" of my children because they had been told that the only way to be accepted to those schools was to get high scores on tests, so that is where they spent their time and money.

Aha. I love it. The backtracking begins. Disingenuous, dishonest, and a liar. You have proven, with your own words, that you are the real definition of a cheat and cheater, not the hardworking immigrant children you secretly envy for their drive, principles, focus, and hard work. You want us to believe that top ten and top twenty is simply shorthand for "knowing the general type of school attended by your children but are afraid to name one of these as you strut about like some peacock pounding you pancake breast tissue. You are a pathetic cheater and liar with absolutely no credibility to even talk about prepping for an IQ test. Good riddance.

Wow. Bullying and an empty barrel in one post. You clearly are not interested in an intelligent discussion but simply want to bully others who have a different viewpoint than your own.

Why do you care that others have achieved success without test prep?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:IQ tests, like race (self report or labels) in American, are concepts simply conjured for sociopolitical means. There is no scientific evidence-base underpinning these concepts.

Where do people come up with this stuff? The validity and replicability of IQ studies in psychology is well documented. Massive numbers, replicable results. IQ has been demonstrated to predict any number of positive outcomes, from crime, job performance, out of wedlock birth rates etc. People hate the message, but the proof is overwhelming.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:IQ tests, like race (self report or labels) in American, are concepts simply conjured for sociopolitical means. There is no scientific evidence-base underpinning these concepts.

Where do people come up with this stuff? The validity and replicability of IQ studies in psychology is well documented. Massive numbers, replicable results. IQ has been demonstrated to predict any number of positive outcomes, from crime, job performance, out of wedlock birth rates etc. People hate the message, but the proof is overwhelming.

Tell that to the folks who received mail from the Harvard-educated unabomber. IQ is one attribute of many that can be a predictor of success, but there are so many other qualities that come into the picture. There are also tons of brilliant people who lack social skills, drive, whatever and as a result never rise as high as IQ test results might have predicted. An IQ score is one piece of a puzzle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IQ tests, like race (self report or labels) in American, are concepts simply conjured for sociopolitical means. There is no scientific evidence-base underpinning these concepts.

Where do people come up with this stuff? The validity and replicability of IQ studies in psychology is well documented. Massive numbers, replicable results. IQ has been demonstrated to predict any number of positive outcomes, from crime, job performance, out of wedlock birth rates etc. People hate the message, but the proof is overwhelming.

Tell that to the folks who received mail from the Harvard-educated unabomber. IQ is one attribute of many that can be a predictor of success, but there are so many other qualities that come into the picture. There are also tons of brilliant people who lack social skills, drive, whatever and as a result never rise as high as IQ test results might have predicted. An IQ score is one piece of a puzzle.

Sure, but it's a very important piece.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IQ tests, like race (self report or labels) in American, are concepts simply conjured for sociopolitical means. There is no scientific evidence-base underpinning these concepts.

Where do people come up with this stuff? The validity and replicability of IQ studies in psychology is well documented. Massive numbers, replicable results. IQ has been demonstrated to predict any number of positive outcomes, from crime, job performance, out of wedlock birth rates etc. People hate the message, but the proof is overwhelming.

Tell that to the folks who received mail from the Harvard-educated unabomber. IQ is one attribute of many that can be a predictor of success, but there are so many other qualities that come into the picture. There are also tons of brilliant people who lack social skills, drive, whatever and as a result never rise as high as IQ test results might have predicted. An IQ score is one piece of a puzzle.

Sure, but it's a very important piece.

Again, I have a cousin who's off the charts brilliant, spends most of his time gaming and barely leaves the house. He's never really been able to keep and hold a job. Years ago, doing a fellowship at Harvard, I interviewed a student who wanted to go into journalism. It was clear that this student was very bright, but she couldn't convey that either speaking or in writing. IQ is one piece.

[Anonymous]

Again, I have a cousin who's off the charts brilliant, spends most of his time gaming and barely leaves the house. He's never really been able to keep and hold a job. Years ago, doing a fellowship at Harvard, I interviewed a student who wanted to go into journalism. It was clear that this student was very bright, but she couldn't convey that either speaking or in writing. IQ is one piece.

These examples seem to be exceptions to the not very controversial notion that a high IQ is a good thing, particularly as a measure of academic potential. IF your child is accepted to Harvard, the natural reaction is not fear that she may be a serial killer in the making. So the point you are making is not altogether clear. If you believe aptitude test scores alone should not determine AAP eligibility, it would seem FCPS already agrees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IQ tests, like race (self report or labels) in American, are concepts simply conjured for sociopolitical means. There is no scientific evidence-base underpinning these concepts.

Where do people come up with this stuff? The validity and replicability of IQ studies in psychology is well documented. Massive numbers, replicable results. IQ has been demonstrated to predict any number of positive outcomes, from crime, job performance, out of wedlock birth rates etc. People hate the message, but the proof is overwhelming.

Tell that to the folks who received mail from the Harvard-educated unabomber. IQ is one attribute of many that can be a predictor of success, but there are so many other qualities that come into the picture. There are also tons of brilliant people who lack social skills, drive, whatever and as a result never rise as high as IQ test results might have predicted. An IQ score is one piece of a puzzle.

Sure, but it's a very important piece.

But the point of the thread is prepping for an IQ test -- and with the exception of one poster, the consensus is why? While intellectual growth is a good thing, having a test that shows you are a super genius when you are not does not help anyone. I mean, in the short term, people may assume you are smarted, but you still have to perform.

Reading, intellectual exploration, puzzles, legos, tetris, etc are good activities for growing, and may (probably) do increase the intelligence. So does going out and playing with friends. I am amazed that 7 yo's can solve the partial differential equations required to accurately throw a ball to another kid.

But the goal of the activities are to 1) have fun, and 2) grow as a person. Not to increase the score on an IQ test.

[Anonymous]

But the point of the thread is prepping for an IQ test -- and with the exception of one poster, the consensus is why? While intellectual growth is a good thing, having a test that shows you are a super genius when you are not does not help anyone. I mean, in the short term, people may assume you are smarted, but you still have to perform.

Reading, intellectual exploration, puzzles, legos, tetris, etc are good activities for growing, and may (probably) do increase the intelligence. So does going out and playing with friends. I am amazed that 7 yo's can solve the partial differential equations required to accurately throw a ball to another kid.

But the goal of the activities are to 1) have fun, and 2) grow as a person. Not to increase the score on an IQ test.

But, the smart kid can increase her IQ with training and preparation and have fun and grow as a person. The smart kid gets it ALL!