South Arlington and North Arlington Schools

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are the details...


"Mi Voz Cuenta is advocating for affordable housing in the neighborhoods near Columbia Pike, adding that the mixed-income neighborhoods have attracted diversity, and with it vibrancy, to the area, the group said. The group is also open to affordable housing throughout the county, said group spokeswoman Jessica Sarriot."

"We want to make sure that you also know that many residents of Barcroft, Alcova Heights, and the rest of the Columbia Pike corridor remain dedicated to the idea of expanding affordable housing in our area,” the group said. “What our families really need is stable housing, housing where rents do not get raised exponentially year after year.”

https://www.arlnow.com/2015/09/17/new-south-arlington-group-urges-county-board-to-accept-housing-plan/

Looks like Yorktown high school is untouched, WL and Wakefield are the main receivers

Sounds like you would want to buy in Yorktown, the other two zones seem to be in for some turbulent waters in the future and beyong.

If you count adding 2000 housing units along Lee highway untouched?!?

[Anonymous]

^^^^ CARD is smart. They are fighting the fight they can win. There is currently no traction with the " no new affordable housing" argument. Zero.
How can you tell?
No one running for board will say it. If it could get you elected - someone would be saying it.
CARD has found a progressive argument that should have been made a long time ago.
Asking the questions about schools makes sense- it's also asking what the real costs are.
The board and developers haven't been willing to go there. The answers would likely put a stop to much of this proposed development. AHC is non profit, but people are making money off of all of these deals on Columbia Pike.

[Anonymous]

I'd like to see more funding allocated to schools in the South, maybe some universal free preschool thrown in, for good measure, if we are going to add more CAF units.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'd like to see more funding allocated to schools in the South, maybe some universal free preschool thrown in, for good measure, if we are going to add more CAF units.

Seriously! If where're gonna do it- then let's go big!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^^^ CARD is smart. They are fighting the fight they can win. There is currently no traction with the " no new affordable housing" argument. Zero.
How can you tell?
No one running for board will say it. If it could get you elected - someone would be saying it.
CARD has found a progressive argument that should have been made a long time ago.
Asking the questions about schools makes sense- it's also asking what the real costs are.
The board and developers haven't been willing to go there. The answers would likely put a stop to much of this proposed development. AHC is non profit, but people are making money off of all of these deals on Columbia Pike.

I think that it totally COULD get elected, if the costs and the impact had been widely publicized!!!
I don't think any TAXPAYING Arlingtonians want their money spent this way!!!
...maybe if we weren't dealing with being two steps behind overcrowding of the schools, maybe if none of the schools were struggling with test scores, poverty, and ESL ALREADY, MAYBE IF WE WERENT CONSTANTLY TOLD THAT TAXES HAVE TO BE RAISED OR SOME OF THE APS PROGRAMS HAVE TO BE SHUT DOWN.... But in the current state of affairs - really how dare they shove this down the throats of the taxpayer?

I think the reason is rather that a few people are making huge amounts of money off of this plan. It is certainly not Altruism.

[Anonymous]

Board meeting was yesterday. Mi Voc Cuente had about a 100+ people there.
Card? Maybe 10

Game over

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Board meeting was yesterday. Mi Voc Cuente had about a 100+ people there.
Card? Maybe 10

Game over

I'm confused. Many of the changes CARD was advocating for were included in the plan that was adopted, including the targets for geographic distribution. Anybody who thought CARD was trying to block the plan was not paying attention.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Board meeting was yesterday. Mi Voc Cuente had about a 100+ people there.
Card? Maybe 10

Game over

I'm confused. Many of the changes CARD was advocating for were included in the plan that was adopted, including the targets for geographic distribution. Anybody who thought CARD was trying to block the plan was not paying attention.

I don't have a stake in this, but I am curious to see what changes you are referring to that were successfully adopted. Is it in the specific requirements under the plan, or does the plan just vaguely refer to targets without requring them, which really just kicks the issue down the road?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Board meeting was yesterday. Mi Voc Cuente had about a 100+ people there.
Card? Maybe 10

Game over

I'm confused. Many of the changes CARD was advocating for were included in the plan that was adopted, including the targets for geographic distribution. Anybody who thought CARD was trying to block the plan was not paying attention.

I don't have a stake in this, but I am curious to see what changes you are referring to that were successfully adopted. Is it in the specific requirements under the plan, or does the plan just vaguely refer to targets without requring them, which really just kicks the issue down the road?

The plan is better. Card would have liked some language limiting farm percentages in over burdened school zones. Like, don't add new additional AH to a school zone that is already 70%. The AH lobby lost their minds at that suggestion, but it was ultimately right to push for it. I think it helped negotiate a little more. It's still an insane percentage to be dedicating to housing - almost 20%... But it's unlikely they will hit their target anyway. Vihstadt brought up some fairly important issues, but they didn't get any traction. The board and special interests seem to think that columbia pike revitalization is a done deal, but as you go west, that idea gets really shaky. Arlington mill still can't get a commercial tenant for their retail space and the businesses in that crappy little strip mall have been grumbling ... Not sure what their complaints are. There isn't much parking over there, so that might be aggravating everything. If you need to park, you aren't going to drive over there. That leaves your establishment patronized entirely by people within walking distance- who don't have much disposable income. Saturday's meeting was a real kumbaya, feel good affair, and it's touching to hear people's individual stories. It spoils the mood when you start asking the deeper questions of long term costs and overall community development. The people living there will want some services - better transit, desent retail. You need a balance for businesses to set up shop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Board meeting was yesterday. Mi Voc Cuente had about a 100+ people there.
Card? Maybe 10

Game over

I'm confused. Many of the changes CARD was advocating for were included in the plan that was adopted, including the targets for geographic distribution. Anybody who thought CARD was trying to block the plan was not paying attention.

I don't have a stake in this, but I am curious to see what changes you are referring to that were successfully adopted. Is it in the specific requirements under the plan, or does the plan just vaguely refer to targets without requring them, which really just kicks the issue down the road?

The plan is better. Card would have liked some language limiting farm percentages in over burdened school zones. Like, don't add new additional AH to a school zone that is already 70%. The AH lobby lost their minds at that suggestion, but it was ultimately right to push for it. I think it helped negotiate a little more. It's still an insane percentage to be dedicating to housing - almost 20%... But it's unlikely they will hit their target anyway. Vihstadt brought up some fairly important issues, but they didn't get any traction. The board and special interests seem to think that columbia pike revitalization is a done deal, but as you go west, that idea gets really shaky. Arlington mill still can't get a commercial tenant for their retail space and the businesses in that crappy little strip mall have been grumbling ... Not sure what their complaints are. There isn't much parking over there, so that might be aggravating everything. If you need to park, you aren't going to drive over there. That leaves your establishment patronized entirely by people within walking distance- who don't have much disposable income. Saturday's meeting was a real kumbaya, feel good affair, and it's touching to hear people's individual stories. It spoils the mood when you start asking the deeper questions of long term costs and overall community development. The people living there will want some services - better transit, desent retail. You need a balance for businesses to set up shop.

So what was the outcome? More affordable housing in colombia pike?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Board meeting was yesterday. Mi Voc Cuente had about a 100+ people there.
Card? Maybe 10

Game over

I'm confused. Many of the changes CARD was advocating for were included in the plan that was adopted, including the targets for geographic distribution. Anybody who thought CARD was trying to block the plan was not paying attention.

I don't have a stake in this, but I am curious to see what changes you are referring to that were successfully adopted. Is it in the specific requirements under the plan, or does the plan just vaguely refer to targets without requring them, which really just kicks the issue down the road?

The plan is better. Card would have liked some language limiting farm percentages in over burdened school zones. Like, don't add new additional AH to a school zone that is already 70%. The AH lobby lost their minds at that suggestion, but it was ultimately right to push for it. I think it helped negotiate a little more. It's still an insane percentage to be dedicating to housing - almost 20%... But it's unlikely they will hit their target anyway. Vihstadt brought up some fairly important issues, but they didn't get any traction. The board and special interests seem to think that columbia pike revitalization is a done deal, but as you go west, that idea gets really shaky. Arlington mill still can't get a commercial tenant for their retail space and the businesses in that crappy little strip mall have been grumbling ... Not sure what their complaints are. There isn't much parking over there, so that might be aggravating everything. If you need to park, you aren't going to drive over there. That leaves your establishment patronized entirely by people within walking distance- who don't have much disposable income. Saturday's meeting was a real kumbaya, feel good affair, and it's touching to hear people's individual stories. It spoils the mood when you start asking the deeper questions of long term costs and overall community development. The people living there will want some services - better transit, desent retail. You need a balance for businesses to set up shop.

So what was the outcome? More affordable housing in colombia pike?

Right now Columbia pike holds over 30% of the county's affordable housing - under the plan it moves down to 22%.
However, that's with increased density everywhere.
Also, public land for public good for sort of slipped back into it. Don't agree with that. Got the board to admit that geographic diversity needed to be addressed. The map above shows you the targeted areas. Lee highway is a bit more prominent now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Board meeting was yesterday. Mi Voc Cuente had about a 100+ people there.
Card? Maybe 10

Game over

I'm confused. Many of the changes CARD was advocating for were included in the plan that was adopted, including the targets for geographic distribution. Anybody who thought CARD was trying to block the plan was not paying attention.

I don't have a stake in this, but I am curious to see what changes you are referring to that were successfully adopted. Is it in the specific requirements under the plan, or does the plan just vaguely refer to targets without requring them, which really just kicks the issue down the road?

The plan is better. Card would have liked some language limiting farm percentages in over burdened school zones. Like, don't add new additional AH to a school zone that is already 70%. The AH lobby lost their minds at that suggestion, but it was ultimately right to push for it. I think it helped negotiate a little more. It's still an insane percentage to be dedicating to housing - almost 20%... But it's unlikely they will hit their target anyway. Vihstadt brought up some fairly important issues, but they didn't get any traction. The board and special interests seem to think that columbia pike revitalization is a done deal, but as you go west, that idea gets really shaky. Arlington mill still can't get a commercial tenant for their retail space and the businesses in that crappy little strip mall have been grumbling ... Not sure what their complaints are. There isn't much parking over there, so that might be aggravating everything. If you need to park, you aren't going to drive over there. That leaves your establishment patronized entirely by people within walking distance- who don't have much disposable income. Saturday's meeting was a real kumbaya, feel good affair, and it's touching to hear people's individual stories. It spoils the mood when you start asking the deeper questions of long term costs and overall community development. The people living there will want some services - better transit, desent retail. You need a balance for businesses to set up shop.

So what was the outcome? More affordable housing in colombia pike?

Right now Columbia pike holds over 30% of the county's affordable housing - under the plan it moves down to 22%.
However, that's with increased density everywhere.
Also, public land for public good for sort of slipped back into it. Don't agree with that. Got the board to admit that geographic diversity needed to be addressed. The map above shows you the targeted areas. Lee highway is a bit more prominent now.

Let me guess, anything in the Yorktown pyramid was spared from the public housing projects

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Board meeting was yesterday. Mi Voc Cuente had about a 100+ people there.
Card? Maybe 10

Game over

I'm confused. Many of the changes CARD was advocating for were included in the plan that was adopted, including the targets for geographic distribution. Anybody who thought CARD was trying to block the plan was not paying attention.

I don't have a stake in this, but I am curious to see what changes you are referring to that were successfully adopted. Is it in the specific requirements under the plan, or does the plan just vaguely refer to targets without requring them, which really just kicks the issue down the road?

The plan is better. Card would have liked some language limiting farm percentages in over burdened school zones. Like, don't add new additional AH to a school zone that is already 70%. The AH lobby lost their minds at that suggestion, but it was ultimately right to push for it. I think it helped negotiate a little more. It's still an insane percentage to be dedicating to housing - almost 20%... But it's unlikely they will hit their target anyway. Vihstadt brought up some fairly important issues, but they didn't get any traction. The board and special interests seem to think that columbia pike revitalization is a done deal, but as you go west, that idea gets really shaky. Arlington mill still can't get a commercial tenant for their retail space and the businesses in that crappy little strip mall have been grumbling ... Not sure what their complaints are. There isn't much parking over there, so that might be aggravating everything. If you need to park, you aren't going to drive over there. That leaves your establishment patronized entirely by people within walking distance- who don't have much disposable income. Saturday's meeting was a real kumbaya, feel good affair, and it's touching to hear people's individual stories. It spoils the mood when you start asking the deeper questions of long term costs and overall community development. The people living there will want some services - better transit, desent retail. You need a balance for businesses to set up shop.

So what was the outcome? More affordable housing in colombia pike?

Right now Columbia pike holds over 30% of the county's affordable housing - under the plan it moves down to 22%.
However, that's with increased density everywhere.
Also, public land for public good for sort of slipped back into it. Don't agree with that. Got the board to admit that geographic diversity needed to be addressed. The map above shows you the targeted areas. Lee highway is a bit more prominent now.

Let me guess, anything in the Yorktown pyramid was spared from the public housing projects

The plan focuses on major commuting corridors. They have some hair brained idea that they can turn the SFH's of the Yorktown pyramid into duplexes and triplexes. That worries me, because it won't happen up there. Those homeowners will light torches over that.
However, I could see that happening in the zipcodes around Columbia Pike. Imagine 3 families in those tiny little houses. That's much more likely to play out.

[Anonymous]

I don't think they'll light torches. 22207 will adapt and live with these plans; it's totally doable and it's the right thing to do.

[Anonymous]

parts of lee hwy is yorktown