MCPS is cuttting compacted math and cohorted literacy enrichment

[Anonymous]

I'm so frustrated with all of this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grace is horrible

She was much stronger on this when she was first talking, but apparently she hates Montoya enough that the fact that Montoya opposes it means she has to support it now...

I like that Montoya is asking good questions..but I think it is distracting when she interrupts and asks the same question over and over again.

I'm curious if they have worked with current elementary teachers at all on this. It seems like they have wildly unrealistic expectations of the teachers. I'm also curious what data they have on how Model 2 is specifically working for gifted kids. What data do they have on kids that would have been in ELC?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TT says "success is determined by increased math proficiency"

Thanks, dingbat.

And if a student is already proficient... they don't matter. Period. Who cares about gifted kids, they're already succeeding right? /s

[Anonymous]

Stewart "I'm exited about this, some kids were over accelerated. I love onramps and offramps. I have hope it works; but it will be a tall order"

Rivera-Oven: "ditto.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grace is horrible

She was much stronger on this when she was first talking, but apparently she hates Montoya enough that the fact that Montoya opposes it means she has to support it now...

I like that Montoya is asking good questions..but I think it is distracting when she interrupts and asks the same question over and over again.

I'm curious if they have worked with current elementary teachers at all on this. It seems like they have wildly unrealistic expectations of the teachers. I'm also curious what data they have on how Model 2 is specifically working for gifted kids. What data do they have on kids that would have been in ELC?

They haven't and they essentially said that. They've definitely consulted with Amplify though, which is telling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shouldn't Natalie Zimmerman, as a recent MCPS elementary classroom teacher, be the loudest voice on this issue? What is she saying?

She's not there.

ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME?

She needs to leave the board. She picked today's meeting of all days to miss??? On the day they're rolling out new math structure pathways? She's a joke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grace is horrible

She was much stronger on this when she was first talking, but apparently she hates Montoya enough that the fact that Montoya opposes it means she has to support it now...

I like that Montoya is asking good questions..but I think it is distracting when she interrupts and asks the same question over and over again.

I'm curious if they have worked with current elementary teachers at all on this. It seems like they have wildly unrealistic expectations of the teachers. I'm also curious what data they have on how Model 2 is specifically working for gifted kids. What data do they have on kids that would have been in ELC?

They have not, and verbally confirmed that today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yay!! Kids who somehow don't meet criteria for compacted elem math (many of whom are not high SES, hmm) are forever held back and on a separate, unequal track.

Fully support this decision MCPS.

Ignore all the haters

What's "unequal" about the current system? My kid is on a grade-level track. They'll still get to take whatever HS math they need for college. I'm not whining about them being "unequal" to the kid taking next-grade-level math because I know my kid is in the right track. Lots of kids are pushed to take compacted math and then have a lot of trouble when they get to algebra. Maybe the problem is with 2/3 of kids getting pushed to the accelerated track.

Even kids off the accelerated track can get to calculus BC by senior year. Faster if they took a summer school class which know kids who do. Algebra 8, geometry 9, precal 10, calc bc 11.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stewart "I'm exited about this, some kids were over accelerated. I love onramps and offramps. I have hope it works; but it will be a tall order"

Rivera-Oven: "ditto.

Laura Stewart cheerleads everything MCPS says and does. It's pathetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grace is horrible

She was much stronger on this when she was first talking, but apparently she hates Montoya enough that the fact that Montoya opposes it means she has to support it now...

I like that Montoya is asking good questions..but I think it is distracting when she interrupts and asks the same question over and over again.

I'm curious if they have worked with current elementary teachers at all on this. It seems like they have wildly unrealistic expectations of the teachers. I'm also curious what data they have on how Model 2 is specifically working for gifted kids. What data do they have on kids that would have been in ELC?

They have not, and verbally confirmed that today.

I don't understand why do they hate our kids so much that they refuse to do something so basic as this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shouldn't Natalie Zimmerman, as a recent MCPS elementary classroom teacher, be the loudest voice on this issue? What is she saying?

She's not there.

ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME?

She needs to leave the board. She picked today's meeting of all days to miss??? On the day they're rolling out new math structure pathways? She's a joke.

There's only a few of them still there. The meeting was supposed to be over 1.5 hours ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stewart "I'm exited about this, some kids were over accelerated. I love onramps and offramps. I have hope it works; but it will be a tall order"

Rivera-Oven: "ditto.

Laura Stewart cheerleads everything MCPS says and does. It's pathetic.

She had been raising some good strong concerns not 20 minutes before, but it's like someone slipped her a gummy during the break and she flipped to "oh well I'm sure it'll be fine!!"

[Anonymous]

https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DTUE6G38E612/$file/Accelerate%20Enrich%20Learn%20Literacy%20Math%20260507%20PPT.pdf

Page 7: "declining MCAP performance as the Math 4/5 kids get older"

Isn't that because the top-performance kids are taking the Algebra MCAP and LEAVING THE COHORT?!?

[Anonymous]

I do not understand these concerns that kids are stuck on one pathway starting grade 3. I have a 5th grader and just within her friend group one child dropped back to regular math after math 4/5 and two jumped up by taking enrichment over last summer. It really does not seem insurmountable. We are a pretty middle of the road school too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grace is horrible

She was much stronger on this when she was first talking, but apparently she hates Montoya enough that the fact that Montoya opposes it means she has to support it now...

I like that Montoya is asking good questions..but I think it is distracting when she interrupts and asks the same question over and over again.

I'm curious if they have worked with current elementary teachers at all on this. It seems like they have wildly unrealistic expectations of the teachers. I'm also curious what data they have on how Model 2 is specifically working for gifted kids. What data do they have on kids that would have been in ELC?

They have not, and verbally confirmed that today.

I don't understand why do they hate our kids so much that they refuse to do something so basic as this?

They also hate teacher, especially ES teacher. Apparently teaching 3-level of math and 2-level CKLA everyday is a piece of cake for these CO folks.