I’m wondering if there is some correlation =/= causation fallacy in people’s thinking (not necessarily yours, PP). Many people are told that their cancer is terminal - they may very well opt not to undergo chemo or radiation in an effort to prolong their life but at the cost of quality of life. In those cases, alternative treatments seem like a reasonable risk to take, just in the desperate hope that they will work. |
He said "If you've heard about it, I've probably touched on it," so it would be bizarre to assume he skipped the most common treatments. In any case the discussion people want to have is really not about need but about whether they feel his widow and kids deserve the money: he didn't do the right treatments so they don't deserve money, they're too rich so don't deserve money, they didn't plan well enough so they don't deserve money...It's a terrible discussion because whether they get money or not hurts absolutely no one (you certainly don't have to donate!) and getting money will help these innocent kids who lost their dad. |
No one can answer this with any degree of certainty. But I took it to mean, he was having diarrhea/ cramping/ bloating, or possibly even blood in the stool although I can't think most people would automatically jump to that being from coffee. |
| Here’s a little kid in Gaithersburg with cancer but sure donate to the celebrity to feed your parasocial needs. https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-for-isaacs-dipg-battle |
Yes, you are absolutely correct- two people I know who opted for no chemo/radiation had cancer that had spread, and they knew treatment would be painful and likely not give them meaningful long term survival (as in, not past 5 years), so they chose not to. I don't blame them, I don't know what choice I'd have made myself. None of them had young kids - I assume with young kids, being able to see them grow 5 more years would be priceless. The other 2 people I know- one had stage 1 breast cancer that she treated with things like vitamin infusions and hyperbaric chambers or something. It spread, and she died 3 years later. And one had lymphoma, that she treated with similar alternative therapies, and she also died. Her cancer was very treatable. Those cases make me sad. They were both under 40. I guess that isn't "many, MANY" people, so, sorry for the exaggeration |
You know what? I clicked on his GoFundMe and then clicked to show other medical GoFundMes and saw children who were intubated, or bald from chemo, whose go fund mes were under 10k dollars raised. If you only want to help healthy children who have lost their parents, there are hundreds and hundreds of those on their too, all with less than 10k raised. If people want to help children who really, truly need help- start there. Is my unsolicited advice. |
How much did YOU donate to them? Lead by example, otherwise go away. |
I donated nothing to anybody, I only donate to Go Fund Mes of people who I know. My advice was to people who are interested in donating to Go Fund Mes of strangers, such as the people who have donated millions towards a very successful actor's estate. If someone doesn't have a problem with giving money to strangers through an online platform with their credit card, I'm just suggesting other avenues where they can help people who have MANY fewer resources. If they care. |
Just cheap words then. Nobody asked for your advice, they know how to spend their money. |
They sure do- they are spending it to give money to a household name famous actor's widow, to the tune of millions of dollars. And that's their choice. And it's not that I don't think his children deserve support and love. It just makes me sick that people will think these specific children need their 20 dollars, and they will bypass other children on the exact same platform- one click away!!- who are homeless and hospitalized with terminal illness. That's the state of our country. And I donate plenty of money to people in need- both through local charities and organizations, and to individuals, directly, who are in my community. I just do not like Go Fund Me, especially when people unfortunately can scam the system. But if people like it and use it? Fine! Great! Maybe think to yourself if there are children who are SLIGHTLY more in need of that 20 dollars than these children. I don't even think James himself would disagree with me on that point. |
I think people realize there are other causes out there they can also donate to, it doesn't have to be this or that or indicate that all needs are equal. The wealthy people who donated to this GFM are known to donate a lot to charity generally, much, much more than they donated here. It's also not a competition at all. People donate to whatever GFMs resonate with them: Because they know the person, like the cause, were moved by the person's specific plight. It's not hard to see here why JVDB's passing would trigger emotional responses from people who grew up seeing him on tv/worked with him/knew him and loved him. |
Well, James is dead. That’s the point. Maybe if people stopped wasting billions donating to corrupt politicians all the children would have more money, but that’s really neither here nor there. |
JVDB was in college when he got the Dawson part. |
Nobody goes to college for free. |
You get blood in the stool from someone who simply said “I thought it was the coffee”??? |