James Van der beek died! 48 yo :(

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm going to show my whole ignorance on the health care system & treatment in this country, but my mom passed away two years ago from the same cancer James had, but she was 74. She had treatments for two full years, plus multiple extremely long (i'm talking one stay was 5 straight months!) hospital stays during this time. My parents are completely middle class.

How did my mom get away with these cancer treatments and long hospital stays not bankrupting them? With the sale of the house after she passed, my dad now has almost 2M in an investment account, and he now lives with my brother. There were a few residual bills from the hospital stays for a few months after she passed but those are gone now.


For one thing I assume your mother was on Medicare.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm going to show my whole ignorance on the health care system & treatment in this country, but my mom passed away two years ago from the same cancer James had, but she was 74. She had treatments for two full years, plus multiple extremely long (i'm talking one stay was 5 straight months!) hospital stays during this time. My parents are completely middle class.

How did my mom get away with these cancer treatments and long hospital stays not bankrupting them? With the sale of the house after she passed, my dad now has almost 2M in an investment account, and he now lives with my brother. There were a few residual bills from the hospital stays for a few months after she passed but those are gone now.


First I am very sorry about your mom. Then, I think what happened is after he exhausted traditional paid for by insurance treatment options, he likely sought alternative/experimental treatments which were not covered by insurance because they were desperate and at the income level they could "afford it" in the sense they had the money available. But I do think his case is not a good one to invoke when it comes to the many issues with healthcare in the country. Many treatments (some not yet available elsewhere) ARE covered and won't bankrupt someone who has insurance.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Also recall that he's been sick and unable to work for quite some time, so they've likely been living off savings for a while.


He has a part in Legally Blonde Prequel, so should have SAG insurance but I’m sure income has been far down.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is typically a beatable cancer. (I’m a colon cancer survivor).
Get your colonoscopy. Follow your med team’s recommendations of gold standard treatment.

He chose to treat the cancer “holistically” and tried “a bunch of different things”.
It’s 100% his choice and decision. But others should not take a stage 3 colorectal cancer diagnosis as a death sentence. Statistically it’s a beatable cancer dx.



Wait what? He didn't treat it and he could have lived is that what you're saying?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is typically a beatable cancer. (I’m a colon cancer survivor).
Get your colonoscopy. Follow your med team’s recommendations of gold standard treatment.

He chose to treat the cancer “holistically” and tried “a bunch of different things”.
It’s 100% his choice and decision. But others should not take a stage 3 colorectal cancer diagnosis as a death sentence. Statistically it’s a beatable cancer dx.



Wait what? He didn't treat it and he could have lived is that what you're saying?


NP- This person is lying. He did go through regular treatment.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is typically a beatable cancer. (I’m a colon cancer survivor).
Get your colonoscopy. Follow your med team’s recommendations of gold standard treatment.

He chose to treat the cancer “holistically” and tried “a bunch of different things”.
It’s 100% his choice and decision. But others should not take a stage 3 colorectal cancer diagnosis as a death sentence. Statistically it’s a beatable cancer dx.


I just looked this up THIS POST IS BS he did chemotherapy and all that.

WHY are you spreading misinformation PP? What's wrong with you?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm going to show my whole ignorance on the health care system & treatment in this country, but my mom passed away two years ago from the same cancer James had, but she was 74. She had treatments for two full years, plus multiple extremely long (i'm talking one stay was 5 straight months!) hospital stays during this time. My parents are completely middle class.

How did my mom get away with these cancer treatments and long hospital stays not bankrupting them? With the sale of the house after she passed, my dad now has almost 2M in an investment account, and he now lives with my brother. There were a few residual bills from the hospital stays for a few months after she passed but those are gone now.


He did not disclose what kind of treatments he was getting, he specifically avoided saying, which is his right, but it has been discussed that he was paying out of pocket for treatments that are not covered by insurance- aka, alternative treatments. This is likely not what treatments your mother was getting. Traditional treatments are covered by insurance. If he elected not to have any health insurance- that is tragic, considering his assets and his ability to purchase good health insurance.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did he ever have chemo?


Sure did.


Why didn’t it work? Was it just too late? This is so sad.


It's like you've never heard of cancer before. What rock do you live under?


James never said publicly if he got chemo or not. He evaded the question and said he didn't want to discuss his treatment. Which is totally fine.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is typically a beatable cancer. (I’m a colon cancer survivor).
Get your colonoscopy. Follow your med team’s recommendations of gold standard treatment.

He chose to treat the cancer “holistically” and tried “a bunch of different things”.
It’s 100% his choice and decision. But others should not take a stage 3 colorectal cancer diagnosis as a death sentence. Statistically it’s a beatable cancer dx.



Wait what? He didn't treat it and he could have lived is that what you're saying?


NP- This person is lying. He did go through regular treatment.


Please show me the source for this because all I could find was that he would not disclose what treatment he was getting but that he said a vague "we have tried lots of things". And I am not judging that decision to keep things as private as he could, but it absolutely changes the discussion about why his family might need multiple millions through a go fund me to help with his unpaid medical bills, his kids education, and to keep their home.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is typically a beatable cancer. (I’m a colon cancer survivor).
Get your colonoscopy. Follow your med team’s recommendations of gold standard treatment.

He chose to treat the cancer “holistically” and tried “a bunch of different things”.
It’s 100% his choice and decision. But others should not take a stage 3 colorectal cancer diagnosis as a death sentence. Statistically it’s a beatable cancer dx.


I just looked this up THIS POST IS BS he did chemotherapy and all that.

WHY are you spreading misinformation PP? What's wrong with you?


Of course he did chemo. It was very clear that he fought like hell to stay alive for his family. He fought his illness with such grace. It takes a real piece of work to criticize an objectively good person gone too soon, so soon after their death. Just wow.
Anonymous
This is the most detail I can find: "The actor immediately started getting treatments, but didn't share specific details about any surgeries or chemotherapy he was potentially undergoing. "If you’ve heard about it, I’ve probably touched on it," he said."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is typically a beatable cancer. (I’m a colon cancer survivor).
Get your colonoscopy. Follow your med team’s recommendations of gold standard treatment.

He chose to treat the cancer “holistically” and tried “a bunch of different things”.
It’s 100% his choice and decision. But others should not take a stage 3 colorectal cancer diagnosis as a death sentence. Statistically it’s a beatable cancer dx.


I just looked this up THIS POST IS BS he did chemotherapy and all that.

WHY are you spreading misinformation PP? What's wrong with you?


Of course he did chemo. It was very clear that he fought like hell to stay alive for his family. He fought his illness with such grace. It takes a real piece of work to criticize an objectively good person gone too soon, so soon after their death. Just wow.


I am not the PP but I am so sad at his passing and I think he was an amazing actor and an amazing human. But none of us have any idea if he did chemo. I know many, MANY amazing people who elected not to do traditional chemo or radiation for their cancer. They have all passed away. As have many people who DID do all the traditional therapies, so I honestly don't judge their choices, everyone needs to lead their own life journey. But You have no idea if he did chemo or radiation. That's just a fact, you don't, unless you are his doctor, in which case you're violating HIPAA.
Anonymous
Does anyone know what exactly his 'I thought it was the coffee" symptom was?

Anonymous
Please give the guy the benefit of the doubt. He probably went for experimental/alternative treatments in top of the conventional treatments when that stopped working.

I think insiders like Spielberg can easily figure out whether he still owned/rented out the property in CA and if the GFM is a “money grab.”

He wouldn’t have auctioned off his stuff if he wasn’t low on funds, regardless of what assets he wanted to retain to generate income for his family after he’d pass.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what exactly his 'I thought it was the coffee" symptom was?



Coffee has laxative effects so you can guess.
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