Sydney Sweeney / American Eagle Controversy

[Anonymous]

I’m seeing more people making fun of her voice in the advertisement than anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can see why some posters and progressives see this ad as dangerously regressive. Because it is regressive. It's a return to the s&x sells approach. This ad is sexy. Sydney Sweeney is sexy. The clothes she's wearing is besides the point. It's what ads for teen clothes used to be like till recently.

Someone commented to me that across multiple areas we're witnessing the collapse of a top-down driven command way of doing things, whether the media or advertising or movies. It was not market forces that demanded body positive advertising or mixed race advertising or dull movies with perfect race blind casting and girlbosses harpies, but ideology in boardrooms. And it turned out to be a money loser.

A heavy person in teen clothes is never going to sell. Pretending a heavy person can be sexy is command driven ideology. And that's why the progressives are freaking out. A sexy, attractive woman or man sells. Big time. I'm a gay dude and I can see exactly why the Sidney Sweeney ad is fun and enjoyable, and yes, sexy. I'm not offended by it (contrary to the previous poster screeching that LGBT+whatever would be offended by it). If there's anything "gay" in my admiration for the ad it's the aesthetics. And I don't doubt a lot of teens will lap this up because it's sexy and fun and full of implications of having a confident good time.

All the screechers are the modern equivalent of agony aunts clutching their pearls and moaning oh won't someone think of the children!

Spot on.

The people freaking out about the ad are the ones slowly realizing that they can’t compel belief. They can compel a lot of things by using the system to their advantage, but they cannot compel a personal belief, and slowly understanding that is causing them to rage.

This has the be the dumbest take. At no point has sex not sold and been used in advertising campaigns. Just because companies also try to appeal in other ways as well, doesn’t mean the sex has gone away.

This ad campaign is alarming because clearly AE and Sydney Sweeney looked at this campaign and realized it would be controversial and that a lot of people would see it as a white supremacist dog whistle. They then decided to go ahead with the campaign. We are a country where a major movie star and companies view being seen as friendly to white supremacists as an asset. And it’s not just the libs who see the white supremacy. Clearly, the MAGA folks see it. They just think that it’s right and just, and the libs are ridiculous for not supporting white supremacy.

[Anonymous]

I find it a bit weird in the historical context of the Nazis and their focus on eugenics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can see why some posters and progressives see this ad as dangerously regressive. Because it is regressive. It's a return to the s&x sells approach. This ad is sexy. Sydney Sweeney is sexy. The clothes she's wearing is besides the point. It's what ads for teen clothes used to be like till recently.

Someone commented to me that across multiple areas we're witnessing the collapse of a top-down driven command way of doing things, whether the media or advertising or movies. It was not market forces that demanded body positive advertising or mixed race advertising or dull movies with perfect race blind casting and girlbosses harpies, but ideology in boardrooms. And it turned out to be a money loser.

A heavy person in teen clothes is never going to sell. Pretending a heavy person can be sexy is command driven ideology. And that's why the progressives are freaking out. A sexy, attractive woman or man sells. Big time. I'm a gay dude and I can see exactly why the Sidney Sweeney ad is fun and enjoyable, and yes, sexy. I'm not offended by it (contrary to the previous poster screeching that LGBT+whatever would be offended by it). If there's anything "gay" in my admiration for the ad it's the aesthetics. And I don't doubt a lot of teens will lap this up because it's sexy and fun and full of implications of having a confident good time.

All the screechers are the modern equivalent of agony aunts clutching their pearls and moaning oh won't someone think of the children!

Spot on.

The people freaking out about the ad are the ones slowly realizing that they can’t compel belief. They can compel a lot of things by using the system to their advantage, but they cannot compel a personal belief, and slowly understanding that is causing them to rage.

This has the be the dumbest take. At no point has sex not sold and been used in advertising campaigns. Just because companies also try to appeal in other ways as well, doesn’t mean the sex has gone away.

This ad campaign is alarming because clearly AE and Sydney Sweeney looked at this campaign and realized it would be controversial and that a lot of people would see it as a white supremacist dog whistle. They then decided to go ahead with the campaign. We are a country where a major movie star and companies view being seen as friendly to white supremacists as an asset. And it’s not just the libs who see the white supremacy. Clearly, the MAGA folks see it. They just think that it’s right and just, and the libs are ridiculous for not supporting white supremacy.

Either this, or sometimes they'll say they don't actually agree with it but still think it's "worth it" if it upsets liberals. It's basically 4Chan trolling as a lifestyle choice, and now we're all living with it from the Oval Office on down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can see why some posters and progressives see this ad as dangerously regressive. Because it is regressive. It's a return to the s&x sells approach. This ad is sexy. Sydney Sweeney is sexy. The clothes she's wearing is besides the point. It's what ads for teen clothes used to be like till recently.

Someone commented to me that across multiple areas we're witnessing the collapse of a top-down driven command way of doing things, whether the media or advertising or movies. It was not market forces that demanded body positive advertising or mixed race advertising or dull movies with perfect race blind casting and girlbosses harpies, but ideology in boardrooms. And it turned out to be a money loser.

A heavy person in teen clothes is never going to sell. Pretending a heavy person can be sexy is command driven ideology. And that's why the progressives are freaking out. A sexy, attractive woman or man sells. Big time. I'm a gay dude and I can see exactly why the Sidney Sweeney ad is fun and enjoyable, and yes, sexy. I'm not offended by it (contrary to the previous poster screeching that LGBT+whatever would be offended by it). If there's anything "gay" in my admiration for the ad it's the aesthetics. And I don't doubt a lot of teens will lap this up because it's sexy and fun and full of implications of having a confident good time.

All the screechers are the modern equivalent of agony aunts clutching their pearls and moaning oh won't someone think of the children!

Spot on.

The people freaking out about the ad are the ones slowly realizing that they can’t compel belief. They can compel a lot of things by using the system to their advantage, but they cannot compel a personal belief, and slowly understanding that is causing them to rage.

This has the be the dumbest take. At no point has sex not sold and been used in advertising campaigns. Just because companies also try to appeal in other ways as well, doesn’t mean the sex has gone away.

This ad campaign is alarming because clearly AE and Sydney Sweeney looked at this campaign and realized it would be controversial and that a lot of people would see it as a white supremacist dog whistle. They then decided to go ahead with the campaign. We are a country where a major movie star and companies view being seen as friendly to white supremacists as an asset. And it’s not just the libs who see the white supremacy. Clearly, the MAGA folks see it. They just think that it’s right and just, and the libs are ridiculous for not supporting white supremacy.

I agree with this. Particularly about AE though (unclear exactly how much detail SS would have had). Either they asked for this ad specifically because of the dog whistle or, at some point during the vetting of this campaign, someone pointed it out and they doubled-down. That is disturbing to me.

[Anonymous]

The conversation around this topic has become really spooky. I understand the eugenics conversation has probably been blown out of proportion, the reaction to it is just as frustrating. A lot of “you’re just jealous that she is perfect hot blonde white woman and your not” like what is that? People act like they don’t see White women in ads and in movies all the time. I’m finding out people don’t like interracial couples in ads and don’t like seeing Black women on screen at all basically. What has happened to people? What you say stuff like this about ads and movies, how do you actually feel about these people in real life?

[Anonymous]

I think interpreting things in the best light, it’s tone deaf and cringe. However the TikToks using her voiceover about jains and ossfring have me cracking up.

[Anonymous]

I literally hate Sydney Sweeney now.

She supports eugenics. And if you defend her then you support eugenics too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can see why some posters and progressives see this ad as dangerously regressive. Because it is regressive. It's a return to the s&x sells approach. This ad is sexy. Sydney Sweeney is sexy. The clothes she's wearing is besides the point. It's what ads for teen clothes used to be like till recently.

Someone commented to me that across multiple areas we're witnessing the collapse of a top-down driven command way of doing things, whether the media or advertising or movies. It was not market forces that demanded body positive advertising or mixed race advertising or dull movies with perfect race blind casting and girlbosses harpies, but ideology in boardrooms. And it turned out to be a money loser.

A heavy person in teen clothes is never going to sell. Pretending a heavy person can be sexy is command driven ideology. And that's why the progressives are freaking out. A sexy, attractive woman or man sells. Big time. I'm a gay dude and I can see exactly why the Sidney Sweeney ad is fun and enjoyable, and yes, sexy. I'm not offended by it (contrary to the previous poster screeching that LGBT+whatever would be offended by it). If there's anything "gay" in my admiration for the ad it's the aesthetics. And I don't doubt a lot of teens will lap this up because it's sexy and fun and full of implications of having a confident good time.

All the screechers are the modern equivalent of agony aunts clutching their pearls and moaning oh won't someone think of the children!

Spot on.

The people freaking out about the ad are the ones slowly realizing that they can’t compel belief. They can compel a lot of things by using the system to their advantage, but they cannot compel a personal belief, and slowly understanding that is causing them to rage.

This has the be the dumbest take. At no point has sex not sold and been used in advertising campaigns. Just because companies also try to appeal in other ways as well, doesn’t mean the sex has gone away.

This ad campaign is alarming because clearly AE and Sydney Sweeney looked at this campaign and realized it would be controversial and that a lot of people would see it as a white supremacist dog whistle. They then decided to go ahead with the campaign. We are a country where a major movie star and companies view being seen as friendly to white supremacists as an asset. And it’s not just the libs who see the white supremacy. Clearly, the MAGA folks see it. They just think that it’s right and just, and the libs are ridiculous for not supporting white supremacy.

I’m not sure how you ever get through your days functionally with this level of hyper-sensitivity. I’m actually pretty curious. Do you function normally? Have a job that requires hard work?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can see why some posters and progressives see this ad as dangerously regressive. Because it is regressive. It's a return to the s&x sells approach. This ad is sexy. Sydney Sweeney is sexy. The clothes she's wearing is besides the point. It's what ads for teen clothes used to be like till recently.

Someone commented to me that across multiple areas we're witnessing the collapse of a top-down driven command way of doing things, whether the media or advertising or movies. It was not market forces that demanded body positive advertising or mixed race advertising or dull movies with perfect race blind casting and girlbosses harpies, but ideology in boardrooms. And it turned out to be a money loser.

A heavy person in teen clothes is never going to sell. Pretending a heavy person can be sexy is command driven ideology. And that's why the progressives are freaking out. A sexy, attractive woman or man sells. Big time. I'm a gay dude and I can see exactly why the Sidney Sweeney ad is fun and enjoyable, and yes, sexy. I'm not offended by it (contrary to the previous poster screeching that LGBT+whatever would be offended by it). If there's anything "gay" in my admiration for the ad it's the aesthetics. And I don't doubt a lot of teens will lap this up because it's sexy and fun and full of implications of having a confident good time.

All the screechers are the modern equivalent of agony aunts clutching their pearls and moaning oh won't someone think of the children!

Spot on.

The people freaking out about the ad are the ones slowly realizing that they can’t compel belief. They can compel a lot of things by using the system to their advantage, but they cannot compel a personal belief, and slowly understanding that is causing them to rage.

This has the be the dumbest take. At no point has sex not sold and been used in advertising campaigns. Just because companies also try to appeal in other ways as well, doesn’t mean the sex has gone away.

This ad campaign is alarming because clearly AE and Sydney Sweeney looked at this campaign and realized it would be controversial and that a lot of people would see it as a white supremacist dog whistle. They then decided to go ahead with the campaign. We are a country where a major movie star and companies view being seen as friendly to white supremacists as an asset. And it’s not just the libs who see the white supremacy. Clearly, the MAGA folks see it. They just think that it’s right and just, and the libs are ridiculous for not supporting white supremacy.

Either this, or sometimes they'll say they don't actually agree with it but still think it's "worth it" if it upsets liberals. It's basically 4Chan trolling as a lifestyle choice, and now we're all living with it from the Oval Office on down.

I’m not even going to confine this to one political belief. A lot of people have taken up online rage baiting as lifestyle, in some cases even a job.

[Anonymous]

The histrionics in the tread are off the charts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The histrionics in the tread are off the charts.

We are all disturbed by the quick movement back to the 1920s and eugenics combined with the 1970s / 1980s sex sells imagining.

Does American Eagle have an 85 year old creating their ideas for them? Because it looks like someone Trumps age or older designed this ad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can see why some posters and progressives see this ad as dangerously regressive. Because it is regressive. It's a return to the s&x sells approach. This ad is sexy. Sydney Sweeney is sexy. The clothes she's wearing is besides the point. It's what ads for teen clothes used to be like till recently.

Someone commented to me that across multiple areas we're witnessing the collapse of a top-down driven command way of doing things, whether the media or advertising or movies. It was not market forces that demanded body positive advertising or mixed race advertising or dull movies with perfect race blind casting and girlbosses harpies, but ideology in boardrooms. And it turned out to be a money loser.

A heavy person in teen clothes is never going to sell. Pretending a heavy person can be sexy is command driven ideology. And that's why the progressives are freaking out. A sexy, attractive woman or man sells. Big time. I'm a gay dude and I can see exactly why the Sidney Sweeney ad is fun and enjoyable, and yes, sexy. I'm not offended by it (contrary to the previous poster screeching that LGBT+whatever would be offended by it). If there's anything "gay" in my admiration for the ad it's the aesthetics. And I don't doubt a lot of teens will lap this up because it's sexy and fun and full of implications of having a confident good time.

All the screechers are the modern equivalent of agony aunts clutching their pearls and moaning oh won't someone think of the children!

Spot on.

The people freaking out about the ad are the ones slowly realizing that they can’t compel belief. They can compel a lot of things by using the system to their advantage, but they cannot compel a personal belief, and slowly understanding that is causing them to rage.

This has the be the dumbest take. At no point has sex not sold and been used in advertising campaigns. Just because companies also try to appeal in other ways as well, doesn’t mean the sex has gone away.

This ad campaign is alarming because clearly AE and Sydney Sweeney looked at this campaign and realized it would be controversial and that a lot of people would see it as a white supremacist dog whistle. They then decided to go ahead with the campaign. We are a country where a major movie star and companies view being seen as friendly to white supremacists as an asset. And it’s not just the libs who see the white supremacy. Clearly, the MAGA folks see it. They just think that it’s right and just, and the libs are ridiculous for not supporting white supremacy.

I’m not sure how you ever get through your days functionally with this level of hyper-sensitivity. I’m actually pretty curious. Do you function normally? Have a job that requires hard work?

The MAGA hypocrisy propaganda machine is absolutely bonkers. People say something that MAGA disagrees with and they’re hyper-sensitive and overreacting. Meanwhile, the MAGA propagandists feed a constant diet of outrage to the MAGA-ites. They can spin out over Starbucks cup, being wished Happy Holidays, and lies about stolen elections, but express concern about the rising influence of white supremacy in this country? Clearly unhinged. Srsly, I’m just capable of rational thought and able to point out hypocrisy when I see it.

[Anonymous]

Just to be clear, there would be no issue with this ad if it was a Black, Latina, Asian model?

And it would be celebrated if it was a Tans model. Right? That would make it cool and edgy. Applauded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can see why some posters and progressives see this ad as dangerously regressive. Because it is regressive. It's a return to the s&x sells approach. This ad is sexy. Sydney Sweeney is sexy. The clothes she's wearing is besides the point. It's what ads for teen clothes used to be like till recently.

Someone commented to me that across multiple areas we're witnessing the collapse of a top-down driven command way of doing things, whether the media or advertising or movies. It was not market forces that demanded body positive advertising or mixed race advertising or dull movies with perfect race blind casting and girlbosses harpies, but ideology in boardrooms. And it turned out to be a money loser.

A heavy person in teen clothes is never going to sell. Pretending a heavy person can be sexy is command driven ideology. And that's why the progressives are freaking out. A sexy, attractive woman or man sells. Big time. I'm a gay dude and I can see exactly why the Sidney Sweeney ad is fun and enjoyable, and yes, sexy. I'm not offended by it (contrary to the previous poster screeching that LGBT+whatever would be offended by it). If there's anything "gay" in my admiration for the ad it's the aesthetics. And I don't doubt a lot of teens will lap this up because it's sexy and fun and full of implications of having a confident good time.

All the screechers are the modern equivalent of agony aunts clutching their pearls and moaning oh won't someone think of the children!

Spot on.

The people freaking out about the ad are the ones slowly realizing that they can’t compel belief. They can compel a lot of things by using the system to their advantage, but they cannot compel a personal belief, and slowly understanding that is causing them to rage.

This has the be the dumbest take. At no point has sex not sold and been used in advertising campaigns. Just because companies also try to appeal in other ways as well, doesn’t mean the sex has gone away.

This ad campaign is alarming because clearly AE and Sydney Sweeney looked at this campaign and realized it would be controversial and that a lot of people would see it as a white supremacist dog whistle. They then decided to go ahead with the campaign. We are a country where a major movie star and companies view being seen as friendly to white supremacists as an asset. And it’s not just the libs who see the white supremacy. Clearly, the MAGA folks see it. They just think that it’s right and just, and the libs are ridiculous for not supporting white supremacy.

I’m not sure how you ever get through your days functionally with this level of hyper-sensitivity. I’m actually pretty curious. Do you function normally? Have a job that requires hard work?

The MAGA hypocrisy propaganda machine is absolutely bonkers. People say something that MAGA disagrees with and they’re hyper-sensitive and overreacting. Meanwhile, the MAGA propagandists feed a constant diet of outrage to the MAGA-ites. They can spin out over Starbucks cup, being wished Happy Holidays, and lies about stolen elections, but express concern about the rising influence of white supremacy in this country? Clearly unhinged. Srsly, I’m just capable of rational thought and able to point out hypocrisy when I see it.

I’m a Democrat who desperately wants to win a national election again and who despises Trump, and there is literally nothing rational whatsoever about your hyperventilating about an ad for jeans featuring an attractive woman. You are equivalent to MAGA in your lack of rationality, in fact.