Why do people stay religious?

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Anonymous wrote:Another religious freak died, scammer, creeper bit golly gee wiz he was a church going dude!

The Louisiana native was best known for being a captivating Pentecostal preacher with a massive following before being caught on camera with a prostitute in New Orleans in 1988, one of a string of successful TV preachers brought down in the 1980s and ’90s by sex scandals. He continued preaching for decades, but with a reduced audience.

Religion is always the scam. And it’s never been the drag Queens.

OPPs why do people stay religious?? They are either stupid or scammers or child molesters or morally corrupt. Or all of the above.

There are lots of religious people who are educated. They're intelligent and have good jobs and are decent people. They're just dumb when it comes to religion.

So they are essentially followers, which is fine, I don’t think I am better than religious people, I just wish people had more evolved critical thinking skills.

DP: Don't you think it odd to just assume highly intelligent people are dumb about one thing? Has it occurred to you that maybe they've studied and thought about it more than you have? Maybe they have a better and more nuanced understanding of their own beliefs than whatever it is you are assuming they believe?

I hear you, pp. Most of the people arguing against religion on this forum have a third grade education in it or less.
Why would OP assume that adults believe in things the way they were explained to them when they were eight?

I cannot fathom how anyone on modern day earth literally believes stories from ancient times, like word for word. Learned adults are doing this. I may not be a religious scholar but this seems insane to me. It’s fine to learn ethics and cautionary tales, etc., but not literally following these texts.

Yeah. It’s really easy to not understand something that you know almost nothing about.

It’s also very easy to be sure that you are right about something when you don’t know much about the subject. That’s why anti-vaxxers are so confident in their rhetoric while medical research papers end with a discussion of where they might have been wrong. It’s easy to feel certain that you are right when you have a simplistic view of a subject.

If you think that educated adults believe the Bible stories in the way you were taught them when you were eight, you are mistaken.

And the Bible is liter-ary. It isn’t liter-al. If it were literal, it wouldn’t make any sense. But there is more than one kind of truth than a description of literal facts. If you were to describe a rainbow to someone who had never seen one by talking about the different light waves bouncing off water droplets in the air and hitting your retina, you would be describing a literal event, but you would be missing something essential about the rainbow. Same thing if you only talked about its beauty. You need to understand some things in multiple ways before you can start to grasp the truth of what they are.

I am guessing you are the same guy that repeats this trope when challenged by the obvious problems with the Bible. Why not just describe the methodology to know what is true and what is metaphorical? Telling people “you just don’t understand” is a clear cop-out.

If it is all literal, then, well no it can’t be as any thinking person can see.

If it’s all metaphorical, then who gives a hoot what it says because it’s no different from any other fiction?

I don’t normally post on this forum, so I’m not familiar with who you are talking about. I’m a doctor, and I find this same kind of thinking frustrating when talking to people about science and medicine.

I thought my rainbow analogy was pretty good on describing why both the literal and metaphorical descriptions are needed to understand something. I’m sorry you didn’t find it helpful.

What is a metaphorical description of a rainbow?

Why bother with all that anyway? Why not just describe the process used to tell what parts of the Bible are truth and which are metaphor? And don’t just respond with “textual criticism” because that has been done by experts and shows the many flaws in the Bible.

I am not familiar with the “process”you are talking about.

If you were to describe a rainbow to an alien who had never been to earth, you would describe light waves, but that’s not all, right? There is more to a rainbow than that. It is beautiful. It makes you feel a certain way.
I’m not sure why you say that a metaphor isn’t true. Would you say that a poem is a less true description of love than an article about oxytocin and dopamine release?

The feelings one gets from reading the Bible or any religious text is not fact. A feeling isn’t fact.

So are you saying that a love poem is not as realistic of a description of love as a textbook entry on oxytocin and dopamine release during intercourse?

Or are you saying that love doesn’t exist because it is a feeling?

I will say that if you believe that love is simply a release of neurotransmitters and nothing else, and a rainbow is simply light rays hitting your retina and nothing else, then I understand why you don’t believe in God.

And I, a DP, think you're trying very hard to make pp look stupid so you can say you understand how such a stupid person would not believe in God -- as if believing in an invisible, supernatural being makes sense. It does not.

NP. It only matters if it makes sense to the person who believes. It does not matter to that person if it does not make sense to you.

It almost sounds like you're saying that a person can make up anything and if they believe it, then it makes sense.

To that person, yes.

This can be beneficial and provide hope and comfort for people, however are you unable to see the many downsides, the dark sides of religions?

So, let those people find hope and comfort in their religion.

Fine just don’t hold nonbelievers to your delusional standards and beliefs.

I'm not. I don't care what you believe/don't believe.

Do you think people who don't believe in God will suffer for eternity in hell?

I don’t think anyone will be suffering for the eternity. They don’t know Jesus, but he knows (and loves) them. I do believe, however, that they are missing out big time in this life. Faith is like a third dimension, which gives my life so much depth and joy.

Religious faith gives your life depth and joy, but did not provide that to pp, which you can't seen to understand.

Plus, are you saying that you don't believe in eternal punishment for non-believers? That is a central tenet of Christianity. Without that, you aren't really a Christian.

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Anonymous wrote:You can’t rationalize faith just like you can’t rationalize love. Why do people keep loving their children? For the same reason they stay religious. Because they are alive.

Lots of people love their children without being religious.

Obviously, but not the point

What is the point?

That faith, similarly to love, cannot be rationalized.

"cannot be rationalized" = "irrational"

I genuinely give you credit for admitting that. It kind of ends the discussion, if that is your objective.

Although I strongly disagree that love "cannot be rationalized". A google search of "why do we love" turns up many, many rational explanations, from physiological, evolutionary, societal, and psychological.

lol “Google search” is not very convincing. Search for “why love is irrational” and you will find plenty of explanations as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Another religious freak died, scammer, creeper bit golly gee wiz he was a church going dude!

The Louisiana native was best known for being a captivating Pentecostal preacher with a massive following before being caught on camera with a prostitute in New Orleans in 1988, one of a string of successful TV preachers brought down in the 1980s and ’90s by sex scandals. He continued preaching for decades, but with a reduced audience.

Religion is always the scam. And it’s never been the drag Queens.

OPPs why do people stay religious?? They are either stupid or scammers or child molesters or morally corrupt. Or all of the above.

There are lots of religious people who are educated. They're intelligent and have good jobs and are decent people. They're just dumb when it comes to religion.

So they are essentially followers, which is fine, I don’t think I am better than religious people, I just wish people had more evolved critical thinking skills.

I think a lot of people do have evolved critical thinking skills, except when it comes to religion.

Exactly. Religious indoctrination quiets the prefrontal cortex (critical thinking) and activates the amygdala (fear center) It’s hard to overcome that

But a lot of people have overcome it, including me. How did we do it? I my case, I just started reading.

I never truly believed, but I can honestly date my full conversion to atheism to an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation. No advanced society (or thinking person) believes in Gods.

How ironic that your faith in “no God” is based on fiction, when it is atheists who claim it is Christians believing in fiction.

By the Laws of Logic, either there is a God or there is not a God: one statement is true, one is false; both cannot be true.

Light has an origin, a source from the beginning when God said, “Let there be light.”

I shall go with God, as the evidence is overwhelming.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse — Romans 1:20

DP - You don't know what "evidence" means, apparently.

And I suspect you are actually an atheist troll, because it's hard for me to accept someone actually utilizes the idiotic logic you present. FYI, you are not helping.

I am neither a troll nor an atheist.

The PP bases his atheism on an episode of Star Trek, a work of fiction.

To me, that is irony because it is the atheists who claim we Christians believe in a fictional God and a book of fiction called the Bible.

The evidence for God is abundant and clear.

Spiders are not taught, neither learn on their own how to spin a web. Spiders do this in the dark without using their eyes. This says the knowledge to spin a web to catch its food must have been programmed into their tiny brains.

Science (so-called) uses the fiction of Evolution to claim, without demonstrating with evidence, how this information entered the spider and is passed on to each generation.

And oh the lucky chance this information happened at rhe same time the spider evolved silk glands, spinnerets, and oiled feet, and both male and female both happened to evolve within each other’s lifespan.

Poppycock! The spider was created by God, both male and female at the same time with all the information and body parts needed to spin webs, catch and eat food, and reproduce.

Who taught the bird with its tiny brain to sit on its eggs until they hatch? Who taught them to sing and build nests? Who taught the wasp to chew wood into paper to build its nest?

Multiply these examples by millions or more and you see clearly that it is impossible for all this to have occurred by The Theory Of It Just-so Happened.

Romans 1:20 stands true.

Many claims.

No evidence.

No proof.

Not even a foundation premise for a simple syllogism that shows that any of those creatures needed to be taught.

Because your entire world view is based on a presupposition that a god exists.

But that is not how logic works. So you fail, completely.

I have shown you evidence, so simple a child can see it.

Jesus, who knew human nature and their thoughts, said an interesting statement:

And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. —Matthew 18:2

Why did Jesus say this? It is because you must be converted, and you must see things the way a child would: honestly, without pride or bias.

If you refuse to be humble as a child and do not stop thinking you know it all, you will ignore the Holy Spirit of God, which will lead you to the truth: Jesus is exactly who he said he was: the son of God.

Let me break down the evidence for you:

Facts:
A spider is born with the ability to spin a web.

It is not taught how to spin a web. It does not learn it, nor does it practice until it is able to make a web.

The spider (not all species, of course), spins the web in the dark using its abdomen. Its eyes do not see what it is doing.

This information to spin a web is transferred genetically.

This information is useless without the corresponding anatomy, i.e., you can’t evolve a spider separate from this information or the spider will die.

The spider is the work of complex design. The information to spin webs is similar to a computer program.

Conclusion: the information to spin a web had a source before it was born. This information was programmed into the spider. To have a program there must be a programmer, and an engineer to design a receptacle for this info.

The only logical conclusion is God.

Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. —2 Timothy 3:8

If you are corrupt, you will cling to the fables of evolution to explain the world without God.

If you do not want God, you shall get your wish: the Lake of Fire. In you will go, hard head.

And yes, I use the word shall, a word that as is grammatically correct, although it is used mainly when writing, not regular speaking.

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^^^ lots of words, no actual evidence whatsoever.

All presuppositional that a god exists.

The Bible is not evidence that the Bible is true. Not how logic works.

As for your lake of fire threat: You are a very bad person to wish such a thing on another human being. Despicable, actually. Hitler level horrible. You should be ashamed of yourself. Fortunately, there is zero evidence such a thing exists.

Fail, fail, and fail again.

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ lots of words, no actual evidence whatsoever.

All presuppositional that a god exists.

The Bible is not evidence that the Bible is true. Not how logic works.

As for your lake of fire threat: You are a very bad person to wish such a thing on another human being. Despicable, actually. Hitler level horrible. You should be ashamed of yourself. Fortunately, there is zero evidence such a thing exists.

Fail, fail, and fail again.

DP. Faith does not require evidence.

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Anonymous wrote:Another religious freak died, scammer, creeper bit golly gee wiz he was a church going dude!

The Louisiana native was best known for being a captivating Pentecostal preacher with a massive following before being caught on camera with a prostitute in New Orleans in 1988, one of a string of successful TV preachers brought down in the 1980s and ’90s by sex scandals. He continued preaching for decades, but with a reduced audience.

Religion is always the scam. And it’s never been the drag Queens.

OPPs why do people stay religious?? They are either stupid or scammers or child molesters or morally corrupt. Or all of the above.

There are lots of religious people who are educated. They're intelligent and have good jobs and are decent people. They're just dumb when it comes to religion.

So they are essentially followers, which is fine, I don’t think I am better than religious people, I just wish people had more evolved critical thinking skills.

I think a lot of people do have evolved critical thinking skills, except when it comes to religion.

Exactly. Religious indoctrination quiets the prefrontal cortex (critical thinking) and activates the amygdala (fear center) It’s hard to overcome that

But a lot of people have overcome it, including me. How did we do it? I my case, I just started reading.

I never truly believed, but I can honestly date my full conversion to atheism to an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation. No advanced society (or thinking person) believes in Gods.

How ironic that your faith in “no God” is based on fiction, when it is atheists who claim it is Christians believing in fiction.

By the Laws of Logic, either there is a God or there is not a God: one statement is true, one is false; both cannot be true.

Light has an origin, a source from the beginning when God said, “Let there be light.”

I shall go with God, as the evidence is overwhelming.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse — Romans 1:20

DP - You don't know what "evidence" means, apparently.

And I suspect you are actually an atheist troll, because it's hard for me to accept someone actually utilizes the idiotic logic you present. FYI, you are not helping.

I am neither a troll nor an atheist.

The PP bases his atheism on an episode of Star Trek, a work of fiction.

To me, that is irony because it is the atheists who claim we Christians believe in a fictional God and a book of fiction called the Bible.

The evidence for God is abundant and clear.

Spiders are not taught, neither learn on their own how to spin a web. Spiders do this in the dark without using their eyes. This says the knowledge to spin a web to catch its food must have been programmed into their tiny brains.

Science (so-called) uses the fiction of Evolution to claim, without demonstrating with evidence, how this information entered the spider and is passed on to each generation.

And oh the lucky chance this information happened at rhe same time the spider evolved silk glands, spinnerets, and oiled feet, and both male and female both happened to evolve within each other’s lifespan.

Poppycock! The spider was created by God, both male and female at the same time with all the information and body parts needed to spin webs, catch and eat food, and reproduce.

Who taught the bird with its tiny brain to sit on its eggs until they hatch? Who taught them to sing and build nests? Who taught the wasp to chew wood into paper to build its nest?

Multiply these examples by millions or more and you see clearly that it is impossible for all this to have occurred by The Theory Of It Just-so Happened.

Romans 1:20 stands true.

Many claims.

No evidence.

No proof.

Not even a foundation premise for a simple syllogism that shows that any of those creatures needed to be taught.

Because your entire world view is based on a presupposition that a god exists.

But that is not how logic works. So you fail, completely.

I have shown you evidence, so simple a child can see it.

Jesus, who knew human nature and their thoughts, said an interesting statement:

And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. —Matthew 18:2

Why did Jesus say this? It is because you must be converted, and you must see things the way a child would: honestly, without pride or bias.

If you refuse to be humble as a child and do not stop thinking you know it all, you will ignore the Holy Spirit of God, which will lead you to the truth: Jesus is exactly who he said he was: the son of God.

Let me break down the evidence for you:

Facts:
A spider is born with the ability to spin a web.

It is not taught how to spin a web. It does not learn it, nor does it practice until it is able to make a web.

The spider (not all species, of course), spins the web in the dark using its abdomen. Its eyes do not see what it is doing.

This information to spin a web is transferred genetically.

This information is useless without the corresponding anatomy, i.e., you can’t evolve a spider separate from this information or the spider will die.

The spider is the work of complex design. The information to spin webs is similar to a computer program.

Conclusion: the information to spin a web had a source before it was born. This information was programmed into the spider. To have a program there must be a programmer, and an engineer to design a receptacle for this info.

The only logical conclusion is God.

Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. —2 Timothy 3:8

If you are corrupt, you will cling to the fables of evolution to explain the world without God.

If you do not want God, you shall get your wish: the Lake of Fire. In you will go, hard head.

And yes, I use the word shall, a word that as is grammatically correct, although it is used mainly when writing, not regular speaking.

Stop trying, pp. You can see by the replies here that the person you are talking to is rigid and poorly educated. If they can even read your posts, they definitely don’t understand them. They certainly aren’t writing meaningful responses to any of your well thought out posts.

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ lots of words, no actual evidence whatsoever.

All presuppositional that a god exists.

The Bible is not evidence that the Bible is true. Not how logic works.

As for your lake of fire threat: You are a very bad person to wish such a thing on another human being. Despicable, actually. Hitler level horrible. You should be ashamed of yourself. Fortunately, there is zero evidence such a thing exists.

Fail, fail, and fail again.

And you presuppose there is no God.

The Bible is an accurate, historical record and contains eye-witness accounts of events. Archeology has even proven things in the Bible to be true.

I never said that I wish you to burn. I take no pleasure in that. The Bible is clear about unbelievers like you:

And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. — Revelation 20:15

Your name is written in the book of life when you repent of your sins and believe in your heart that Jesus is the son of God who takes away sin.

You are very much like a hard headed, insufferable man on Freethought Blogs. He went by the name NerdOfRedhead.

I pitied that man, bitter, eyes closed, fingers in his ears repeating over and over mindlessly, “No evidence! No God! Nyah-nyah I can’t hear you!”

Sir, take your fingers out of your ears and open your eyes to see the truth. But maybe this applies to you, a reprobate:

That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them. —Mark 4:12

I pray that you will see before it is too late.

The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
—Peter 3:9

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Anonymous wrote:Another religious freak died, scammer, creeper bit golly gee wiz he was a church going dude!

The Louisiana native was best known for being a captivating Pentecostal preacher with a massive following before being caught on camera with a prostitute in New Orleans in 1988, one of a string of successful TV preachers brought down in the 1980s and ’90s by sex scandals. He continued preaching for decades, but with a reduced audience.

Religion is always the scam. And it’s never been the drag Queens.

OPPs why do people stay religious?? They are either stupid or scammers or child molesters or morally corrupt. Or all of the above.

There are lots of religious people who are educated. They're intelligent and have good jobs and are decent people. They're just dumb when it comes to religion.

So they are essentially followers, which is fine, I don’t think I am better than religious people, I just wish people had more evolved critical thinking skills.

DP: Don't you think it odd to just assume highly intelligent people are dumb about one thing? Has it occurred to you that maybe they've studied and thought about it more than you have? Maybe they have a better and more nuanced understanding of their own beliefs than whatever it is you are assuming they believe?

I hear you, pp. Most of the people arguing against religion on this forum have a third grade education in it or less.
Why would OP assume that adults believe in things the way they were explained to them when they were eight?

I cannot fathom how anyone on modern day earth literally believes stories from ancient times, like word for word. Learned adults are doing this. I may not be a religious scholar but this seems insane to me. It’s fine to learn ethics and cautionary tales, etc., but not literally following these texts.

Yeah. It’s really easy to not understand something that you know almost nothing about.

It’s also very easy to be sure that you are right about something when you don’t know much about the subject. That’s why anti-vaxxers are so confident in their rhetoric while medical research papers end with a discussion of where they might have been wrong. It’s easy to feel certain that you are right when you have a simplistic view of a subject.

If you think that educated adults believe the Bible stories in the way you were taught them when you were eight, you are mistaken.

And the Bible is liter-ary. It isn’t liter-al. If it were literal, it wouldn’t make any sense. But there is more than one kind of truth than a description of literal facts. If you were to describe a rainbow to someone who had never seen one by talking about the different light waves bouncing off water droplets in the air and hitting your retina, you would be describing a literal event, but you would be missing something essential about the rainbow. Same thing if you only talked about its beauty. You need to understand some things in multiple ways before you can start to grasp the truth of what they are.

I am guessing you are the same guy that repeats this trope when challenged by the obvious problems with the Bible. Why not just describe the methodology to know what is true and what is metaphorical? Telling people “you just don’t understand” is a clear cop-out.

If it is all literal, then, well no it can’t be as any thinking person can see.

If it’s all metaphorical, then who gives a hoot what it says because it’s no different from any other fiction?

I don’t normally post on this forum, so I’m not familiar with who you are talking about. I’m a doctor, and I find this same kind of thinking frustrating when talking to people about science and medicine.

I thought my rainbow analogy was pretty good on describing why both the literal and metaphorical descriptions are needed to understand something. I’m sorry you didn’t find it helpful.

What is a metaphorical description of a rainbow?

Why bother with all that anyway? Why not just describe the process used to tell what parts of the Bible are truth and which are metaphor? And don’t just respond with “textual criticism” because that has been done by experts and shows the many flaws in the Bible.

I am not familiar with the “process”you are talking about.

If you were to describe a rainbow to an alien who had never been to earth, you would describe light waves, but that’s not all, right? There is more to a rainbow than that. It is beautiful. It makes you feel a certain way.
I’m not sure why you say that a metaphor isn’t true. Would you say that a poem is a less true description of love than an article about oxytocin and dopamine release?

The feelings one gets from reading the Bible or any religious text is not fact. A feeling isn’t fact.

So are you saying that a love poem is not as realistic of a description of love as a textbook entry on oxytocin and dopamine release during intercourse?

Or are you saying that love doesn’t exist because it is a feeling?

I will say that if you believe that love is simply a release of neurotransmitters and nothing else, and a rainbow is simply light rays hitting your retina and nothing else, then I understand why you don’t believe in God.

And I, a DP, think you're trying very hard to make pp look stupid so you can say you understand how such a stupid person would not believe in God -- as if believing in an invisible, supernatural being makes sense. It does not.

NP. It only matters if it makes sense to the person who believes. It does not matter to that person if it does not make sense to you.

It almost sounds like you're saying that a person can make up anything and if they believe it, then it makes sense.

To that person, yes.

This can be beneficial and provide hope and comfort for people, however are you unable to see the many downsides, the dark sides of religions?

So, let those people find hope and comfort in their religion.

Fine just don’t hold nonbelievers to your delusional standards and beliefs.

I'm not. I don't care what you believe/don't believe.

Do you think people who don't believe in God will suffer for eternity in hell?

I don’t think anyone will be suffering for the eternity. They don’t know Jesus, but he knows (and loves) them. I do believe, however, that they are missing out big time in this life. Faith is like a third dimension, which gives my life so much depth and joy.

Religious faith gives your life depth and joy, but did not provide that to pp, which you can't seen to understand.

Plus, are you saying that you don't believe in eternal punishment for non-believers? That is a central tenet of Christianity. Without that, you aren't really a Christian.

DP. The pp never tried to explain why her faith didn’t bring her life depth. Maybe that’s why we don’t understand it…

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ lots of words, no actual evidence whatsoever.

All presuppositional that a god exists.

The Bible is not evidence that the Bible is true. Not how logic works.

As for your lake of fire threat: You are a very bad person to wish such a thing on another human being. Despicable, actually. Hitler level horrible. You should be ashamed of yourself. Fortunately, there is zero evidence such a thing exists.

Fail, fail, and fail again.

DP. You are the one who seems pretty earnest to go into this lake of fire, pp. I don’t see how someone else is wishing it on you.

If you were asking someone for directions, and that person told you that a lake of fire was to your left, and you chose to go that way and jump in, the person who gave you directions isn’t really at fault. If anything, they would be MORE at fault if they didn’t tell you about it.

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ lots of words, no actual evidence whatsoever.

All presuppositional that a god exists.

The Bible is not evidence that the Bible is true. Not how logic works.

As for your lake of fire threat: You are a very bad person to wish such a thing on another human being. Despicable, actually. Hitler level horrible. You should be ashamed of yourself. Fortunately, there is zero evidence such a thing exists.

Fail, fail, and fail again.

DP. You are the one who seems pretty earnest to go into this lake of fire, pp. I don’t see how someone else is wishing it on you.

If you were asking someone for directions, and that person told you that a lake of fire was to your left, and you chose to go that way and jump in, the person who gave you directions isn’t really at fault. If anything, they would be MORE at fault if they didn’t tell you about it.

You are correct.

When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. — Ezekiel 3:18

We Christians aren’t rubbing our hands with glee over non-Christians thrown into the lake of fire, we are trying to warn people how to avoid going there.

We are signposts saying, “Turn around! You ate going the wrong way, will dead-end at a lake of fire.”

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We Christians aren’t rubbing our hands with glee over non-Christians thrown into the lake of fire, we are trying to warn people how to avoid going there.

Like hell you're not! You're downright gleeful about it. You and your horrific worse than Hitler mass mudering slavery endorsing god.

Again, the world is fortunate there is no evidence one exists.

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We Christians aren’t rubbing our hands with glee over non-Christians thrown into the lake of fire, we are trying to warn people how to avoid going there.

Like hell you're not! You're downright gleeful about it. You and your horrific worse than Hitler mass mudering slavery endorsing god.

Again, the world is fortunate there is no evidence one exists.

I don’t recall Hitler giving people a choice.

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ lots of words, no actual evidence whatsoever.

All presuppositional that a god exists.

The Bible is not evidence that the Bible is true. Not how logic works.

As for your lake of fire threat: You are a very bad person to wish such a thing on another human being. Despicable, actually. Hitler level horrible. You should be ashamed of yourself. Fortunately, there is zero evidence such a thing exists.

Fail, fail, and fail again.

And you presuppose there is no God.

The Bible is an accurate, historical record and contains eye-witness accounts of events. Archeology has even proven things in the Bible to be true.

I never said that I wish you to burn. I take no pleasure in that. The Bible is clear about unbelievers like you:

And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. — Revelation 20:15

Your name is written in the book of life when you repent of your sins and believe in your heart that Jesus is the son of God who takes away sin.

You are very much like a hard headed, insufferable man on Freethought Blogs. He went by the name NerdOfRedhead.

I pitied that man, bitter, eyes closed, fingers in his ears repeating over and over mindlessly, “No evidence! No God! Nyah-nyah I can’t hear you!”

Sir, take your fingers out of your ears and open your eyes to see the truth. But maybe this applies to you, a reprobate:

That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them. —Mark 4:12

I pray that you will see before it is too late.

The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
—Peter 3:9

Wrong. I do not presuppose there is no god. I just withhold belief until i see evidence. The same as you with every single thing that you do not believe in, but do not and cannot attempt to disprove..

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

We Christians aren’t rubbing our hands with glee over non-Christians thrown into the lake of fire, we are trying to warn people how to avoid going there.

Like hell you're not! You're downright gleeful about it. You and your horrific worse than Hitler mass mudering slavery endorsing god.

Again, the world is fortunate there is no evidence one exists.

I don’t recall Hitler giving people a choice.

What choice did your wicked God give people in the great flood?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

We Christians aren’t rubbing our hands with glee over non-Christians thrown into the lake of fire, we are trying to warn people how to avoid going there.

Like hell you're not! You're downright gleeful about it. You and your horrific worse than Hitler mass mudering slavery endorsing god.

Again, the world is fortunate there is no evidence one exists.

I don’t recall Hitler giving people a choice.

What choice did your wicked God give people in the great flood?

I don’t know. I wasn’t there. I know that you have a choice and you are choosing “lake of fire.” Don’t you think they may have done something similar?