Why do people stay religious?

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Anonymous wrote:Another religious freak died, scammer, creeper bit golly gee wiz he was a church going dude!

The Louisiana native was best known for being a captivating Pentecostal preacher with a massive following before being caught on camera with a prostitute in New Orleans in 1988, one of a string of successful TV preachers brought down in the 1980s and ’90s by sex scandals. He continued preaching for decades, but with a reduced audience.

Religion is always the scam. And it’s never been the drag Queens.

OPPs why do people stay religious?? They are either stupid or scammers or child molesters or morally corrupt. Or all of the above.

There are lots of religious people who are educated. They're intelligent and have good jobs and are decent people. They're just dumb when it comes to religion.

So they are essentially followers, which is fine, I don’t think I am better than religious people, I just wish people had more evolved critical thinking skills.

I think a lot of people do have evolved critical thinking skills, except when it comes to religion.

Exactly. Religious indoctrination quiets the prefrontal cortex (critical thinking) and activates the amygdala (fear center) It’s hard to overcome that

But a lot of people have overcome it, including me. How did we do it? I my case, I just started reading.

I never truly believed, but I can honestly date my full conversion to atheism to an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation. No advanced society (or thinking person) believes in Gods.

How ironic that your faith in “no God” is based on fiction, when it is atheists who claim it is Christians believing in fiction.

By the Laws of Logic, either there is a God or there is not a God: one statement is true, one is false; both cannot be true.

Light has an origin, a source from the beginning when God said, “Let there be light.”

I shall go with God, as the evidence is overwhelming.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse — Romans 1:20

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Anonymous wrote:Another religious freak died, scammer, creeper bit golly gee wiz he was a church going dude!

The Louisiana native was best known for being a captivating Pentecostal preacher with a massive following before being caught on camera with a prostitute in New Orleans in 1988, one of a string of successful TV preachers brought down in the 1980s and ’90s by sex scandals. He continued preaching for decades, but with a reduced audience.

Religion is always the scam. And it’s never been the drag Queens.

OPPs why do people stay religious?? They are either stupid or scammers or child molesters or morally corrupt. Or all of the above.

There are lots of religious people who are educated. They're intelligent and have good jobs and are decent people. They're just dumb when it comes to religion.

So they are essentially followers, which is fine, I don’t think I am better than religious people, I just wish people had more evolved critical thinking skills.

I think a lot of people do have evolved critical thinking skills, except when it comes to religion.

Exactly. Religious indoctrination quiets the prefrontal cortex (critical thinking) and activates the amygdala (fear center) It’s hard to overcome that

But a lot of people have overcome it, including me. How did we do it? I my case, I just started reading.

I never truly believed, but I can honestly date my full conversion to atheism to an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation. No advanced society (or thinking person) believes in Gods.

How ironic that your faith in “no God” is based on fiction, when it is atheists who claim it is Christians believing in fiction.

By the Laws of Logic, either there is a God or there is not a God: one statement is true, one is false; both cannot be true.

Light has an origin, a source from the beginning when God said, “Let there be light.”

I shall go with God, as the evidence is overwhelming.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse — Romans 1:20

DP - You don't know what "evidence" means, apparently.

And I suspect you are actually an atheist troll, because it's hard for me to accept someone actually utilizes the idiotic logic you present. FYI, you are not helping.

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Anonymous wrote:Another religious freak died, scammer, creeper bit golly gee wiz he was a church going dude!

The Louisiana native was best known for being a captivating Pentecostal preacher with a massive following before being caught on camera with a prostitute in New Orleans in 1988, one of a string of successful TV preachers brought down in the 1980s and ’90s by sex scandals. He continued preaching for decades, but with a reduced audience.

Religion is always the scam. And it’s never been the drag Queens.

OPPs why do people stay religious?? They are either stupid or scammers or child molesters or morally corrupt. Or all of the above.

There are lots of religious people who are educated. They're intelligent and have good jobs and are decent people. They're just dumb when it comes to religion.

So they are essentially followers, which is fine, I don’t think I am better than religious people, I just wish people had more evolved critical thinking skills.

I think a lot of people do have evolved critical thinking skills, except when it comes to religion.

Exactly. Religious indoctrination quiets the prefrontal cortex (critical thinking) and activates the amygdala (fear center) It’s hard to overcome that

But a lot of people have overcome it, including me. How did we do it? I my case, I just started reading.

I never truly believed, but I can honestly date my full conversion to atheism to an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation. No advanced society (or thinking person) believes in Gods.

How ironic that your faith in “no God” is based on fiction, when it is atheists who claim it is Christians believing in fiction.

By the Laws of Logic, either there is a God or there is not a God: one statement is true, one is false; both cannot be true.

Light has an origin, a source from the beginning when God said, “Let there be light.”

I shall go with God, as the evidence is overwhelming.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse — Romans 1:20

DP - You don't know what "evidence" means, apparently.

And I suspect you are actually an atheist troll, because it's hard for me to accept someone actually utilizes the idiotic logic you present. FYI, you are not helping.

I am neither a troll nor an atheist.

The PP bases his atheism on an episode of Star Trek, a work of fiction.

To me, that is irony because it is the atheists who claim we Christians believe in a fictional God and a book of fiction called the Bible.

The evidence for God is abundant and clear.

Spiders are not taught, neither learn on their own how to spin a web. Spiders do this in the dark without using their eyes. This says the knowledge to spin a web to catch its food must have been programmed into their tiny brains.

Science (so-called) uses the fiction of Evolution to claim, without demonstrating with evidence, how this information entered the spider and is passed on to each generation.

And oh the lucky chance this information happened at rhe same time the spider evolved silk glands, spinnerets, and oiled feet, and both male and female both happened to evolve within each other’s lifespan.

Poppycock! The spider was created by God, both male and female at the same time with all the information and body parts needed to spin webs, catch and eat food, and reproduce.

Who taught the bird with its tiny brain to sit on its eggs until they hatch? Who taught them to sing and build nests? Who taught the wasp to chew wood into paper to build its nest?

Multiply these examples by millions or more and you see clearly that it is impossible for all this to have occurred by The Theory Of It Just-so Happened.

Romans 1:20 stands true.

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Anonymous wrote:Another religious freak died, scammer, creeper bit golly gee wiz he was a church going dude!

The Louisiana native was best known for being a captivating Pentecostal preacher with a massive following before being caught on camera with a prostitute in New Orleans in 1988, one of a string of successful TV preachers brought down in the 1980s and ’90s by sex scandals. He continued preaching for decades, but with a reduced audience.

Religion is always the scam. And it’s never been the drag Queens.

OPPs why do people stay religious?? They are either stupid or scammers or child molesters or morally corrupt. Or all of the above.

There are lots of religious people who are educated. They're intelligent and have good jobs and are decent people. They're just dumb when it comes to religion.

So they are essentially followers, which is fine, I don’t think I am better than religious people, I just wish people had more evolved critical thinking skills.

I think a lot of people do have evolved critical thinking skills, except when it comes to religion.

Exactly. Religious indoctrination quiets the prefrontal cortex (critical thinking) and activates the amygdala (fear center) It’s hard to overcome that

But a lot of people have overcome it, including me. How did we do it? I my case, I just started reading.

I never truly believed, but I can honestly date my full conversion to atheism to an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation. No advanced society (or thinking person) believes in Gods.

How ironic that your faith in “no God” is based on fiction, when it is atheists who claim it is Christians believing in fiction.

By the Laws of Logic, either there is a God or there is not a God: one statement is true, one is false; both cannot be true.

Light has an origin, a source from the beginning when God said, “Let there be light.”

I shall go with God, as the evidence is overwhelming.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse — Romans 1:20

DP - You don't know what "evidence" means, apparently.

And I suspect you are actually an atheist troll, because it's hard for me to accept someone actually utilizes the idiotic logic you present. FYI, you are not helping.

I am neither a troll nor an atheist.

The PP bases his atheism on an episode of Star Trek, a work of fiction.

To me, that is irony because it is the atheists who claim we Christians believe in a fictional God and a book of fiction called the Bible.

The evidence for God is abundant and clear.

Spiders are not taught, neither learn on their own how to spin a web. Spiders do this in the dark without using their eyes. This says the knowledge to spin a web to catch its food must have been programmed into their tiny brains.

Science (so-called) uses the fiction of Evolution to claim, without demonstrating with evidence, how this information entered the spider and is passed on to each generation.

And oh the lucky chance this information happened at rhe same time the spider evolved silk glands, spinnerets, and oiled feet, and both male and female both happened to evolve within each other’s lifespan.

Poppycock! The spider was created by God, both male and female at the same time with all the information and body parts needed to spin webs, catch and eat food, and reproduce.

Who taught the bird with its tiny brain to sit on its eggs until they hatch? Who taught them to sing and build nests? Who taught the wasp to chew wood into paper to build its nest?

Multiply these examples by millions or more and you see clearly that it is impossible for all this to have occurred by The Theory Of It Just-so Happened.

Romans 1:20 stands true.

Many claims.

No evidence.

No proof.

Not even a foundation premise for a simple syllogism that shows that any of those creatures needed to be taught.

Because your entire world view is based on a presupposition that a god exists.

But that is not how logic works. So you fail, completely.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Another religious freak died, scammer, creeper bit golly gee wiz he was a church going dude!

The Louisiana native was best known for being a captivating Pentecostal preacher with a massive following before being caught on camera with a prostitute in New Orleans in 1988, one of a string of successful TV preachers brought down in the 1980s and ’90s by sex scandals. He continued preaching for decades, but with a reduced audience.

Religion is always the scam. And it’s never been the drag Queens.

OPPs why do people stay religious?? They are either stupid or scammers or child molesters or morally corrupt. Or all of the above.

There are lots of religious people who are educated. They're intelligent and have good jobs and are decent people. They're just dumb when it comes to religion.

So they are essentially followers, which is fine, I don’t think I am better than religious people, I just wish people had more evolved critical thinking skills.

I think a lot of people do have evolved critical thinking skills, except when it comes to religion.

Exactly. Religious indoctrination quiets the prefrontal cortex (critical thinking) and activates the amygdala (fear center) It’s hard to overcome that

But a lot of people have overcome it, including me. How did we do it? I my case, I just started reading.

I never truly believed, but I can honestly date my full conversion to atheism to an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation. No advanced society (or thinking person) believes in Gods.

How ironic that your faith in “no God” is based on fiction, when it is atheists who claim it is Christians believing in fiction.

By the Laws of Logic, either there is a God or there is not a God: one statement is true, one is false; both cannot be true.

Light has an origin, a source from the beginning when God said, “Let there be light.”

I shall go with God, as the evidence is overwhelming.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse — Romans 1:20

Do you say "shall" a lot, or only when you're trying to impress people?

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Anonymous wrote:Another religious freak died, scammer, creeper bit golly gee wiz he was a church going dude!

The Louisiana native was best known for being a captivating Pentecostal preacher with a massive following before being caught on camera with a prostitute in New Orleans in 1988, one of a string of successful TV preachers brought down in the 1980s and ’90s by sex scandals. He continued preaching for decades, but with a reduced audience.

Religion is always the scam. And it’s never been the drag Queens.

OPPs why do people stay religious?? They are either stupid or scammers or child molesters or morally corrupt. Or all of the above.

There are lots of religious people who are educated. They're intelligent and have good jobs and are decent people. They're just dumb when it comes to religion.

So they are essentially followers, which is fine, I don’t think I am better than religious people, I just wish people had more evolved critical thinking skills.

I think a lot of people do have evolved critical thinking skills, except when it comes to religion.

Exactly. Religious indoctrination quiets the prefrontal cortex (critical thinking) and activates the amygdala (fear center) It’s hard to overcome that

But a lot of people have overcome it, including me. How did we do it? I my case, I just started reading.

I never truly believed, but I can honestly date my full conversion to atheism to an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation. No advanced society (or thinking person) believes in Gods.

How ironic that your faith in “no God” is based on fiction, when it is atheists who claim it is Christians believing in fiction.

By the Laws of Logic, either there is a God or there is not a God: one statement is true, one is false; both cannot be true.

Light has an origin, a source from the beginning when God said, “Let there be light.”

I shall go with God, as the evidence is overwhelming.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse — Romans 1:20

DP - You don't know what "evidence" means, apparently.

And I suspect you are actually an atheist troll, because it's hard for me to accept someone actually utilizes the idiotic logic you present. FYI, you are not helping.

I am neither a troll nor an atheist.

The PP bases his atheism on an episode of Star Trek, a work of fiction.

To me, that is irony because it is the atheists who claim we Christians believe in a fictional God and a book of fiction called the Bible.

The evidence for God is abundant and clear.

Spiders are not taught, neither learn on their own how to spin a web. Spiders do this in the dark without using their eyes. This says the knowledge to spin a web to catch its food must have been programmed into their tiny brains.

Science (so-called) uses the fiction of Evolution to claim, without demonstrating with evidence, how this information entered the spider and is passed on to each generation.

And oh the lucky chance this information happened at rhe same time the spider evolved silk glands, spinnerets, and oiled feet, and both male and female both happened to evolve within each other’s lifespan.

Poppycock! The spider was created by God, both male and female at the same time with all the information and body parts needed to spin webs, catch and eat food, and reproduce.

Who taught the bird with its tiny brain to sit on its eggs until they hatch? Who taught them to sing and build nests? Who taught the wasp to chew wood into paper to build its nest?

Multiply these examples by millions or more and you see clearly that it is impossible for all this to have occurred by The Theory Of It Just-so Happened.

Romans 1:20 stands true.

Many claims.

No evidence.

No proof.

Not even a foundation premise for a simple syllogism that shows that any of those creatures needed to be taught.

Because your entire world view is based on a presupposition that a god exists.

But that is not how logic works. So you fail, completely.

DP. We know.

Talking to the atheists on this board is like talking to an anti-vaxxer. It doesn’t matter what you say. No one is more confident than someone with a third grade education who watched a 15 minute video on YouTube.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another religious freak died, scammer, creeper bit golly gee wiz he was a church going dude!

The Louisiana native was best known for being a captivating Pentecostal preacher with a massive following before being caught on camera with a prostitute in New Orleans in 1988, one of a string of successful TV preachers brought down in the 1980s and ’90s by sex scandals. He continued preaching for decades, but with a reduced audience.

Religion is always the scam. And it’s never been the drag Queens.

OPPs why do people stay religious?? They are either stupid or scammers or child molesters or morally corrupt. Or all of the above.

There are lots of religious people who are educated. They're intelligent and have good jobs and are decent people. They're just dumb when it comes to religion.

So they are essentially followers, which is fine, I don’t think I am better than religious people, I just wish people had more evolved critical thinking skills.

I think a lot of people do have evolved critical thinking skills, except when it comes to religion.

Exactly. Religious indoctrination quiets the prefrontal cortex (critical thinking) and activates the amygdala (fear center) It’s hard to overcome that

But a lot of people have overcome it, including me. How did we do it? I my case, I just started reading.

I never truly believed, but I can honestly date my full conversion to atheism to an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation. No advanced society (or thinking person) believes in Gods.

How ironic that your faith in “no God” is based on fiction, when it is atheists who claim it is Christians believing in fiction.

By the Laws of Logic, either there is a God or there is not a God: one statement is true, one is false; both cannot be true.

Light has an origin, a source from the beginning when God said, “Let there be light.”

I shall go with God, as the evidence is overwhelming.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse — Romans 1:20

DP - You don't know what "evidence" means, apparently.

And I suspect you are actually an atheist troll, because it's hard for me to accept someone actually utilizes the idiotic logic you present. FYI, you are not helping.

I am neither a troll nor an atheist.

The PP bases his atheism on an episode of Star Trek, a work of fiction.

To me, that is irony because it is the atheists who claim we Christians believe in a fictional God and a book of fiction called the Bible.

The evidence for God is abundant and clear.

Spiders are not taught, neither learn on their own how to spin a web. Spiders do this in the dark without using their eyes. This says the knowledge to spin a web to catch its food must have been programmed into their tiny brains.

Science (so-called) uses the fiction of Evolution to claim, without demonstrating with evidence, how this information entered the spider and is passed on to each generation.

And oh the lucky chance this information happened at rhe same time the spider evolved silk glands, spinnerets, and oiled feet, and both male and female both happened to evolve within each other’s lifespan.

Poppycock! The spider was created by God, both male and female at the same time with all the information and body parts needed to spin webs, catch and eat food, and reproduce.

Who taught the bird with its tiny brain to sit on its eggs until they hatch? Who taught them to sing and build nests? Who taught the wasp to chew wood into paper to build its nest?

Multiply these examples by millions or more and you see clearly that it is impossible for all this to have occurred by The Theory Of It Just-so Happened.

Romans 1:20 stands true.

Pp doesn't base his atheism on a work of fiction. It's just that when watching a fictional TV show that it hit him that religion was not accurate.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another religious freak died, scammer, creeper bit golly gee wiz he was a church going dude!

The Louisiana native was best known for being a captivating Pentecostal preacher with a massive following before being caught on camera with a prostitute in New Orleans in 1988, one of a string of successful TV preachers brought down in the 1980s and ’90s by sex scandals. He continued preaching for decades, but with a reduced audience.

Religion is always the scam. And it’s never been the drag Queens.

OPPs why do people stay religious?? They are either stupid or scammers or child molesters or morally corrupt. Or all of the above.

There are lots of religious people who are educated. They're intelligent and have good jobs and are decent people. They're just dumb when it comes to religion.

So they are essentially followers, which is fine, I don’t think I am better than religious people, I just wish people had more evolved critical thinking skills.

I think a lot of people do have evolved critical thinking skills, except when it comes to religion.

Exactly. Religious indoctrination quiets the prefrontal cortex (critical thinking) and activates the amygdala (fear center) It’s hard to overcome that

But a lot of people have overcome it, including me. How did we do it? I my case, I just started reading.

I never truly believed, but I can honestly date my full conversion to atheism to an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation. No advanced society (or thinking person) believes in Gods.

How ironic that your faith in “no God” is based on fiction, when it is atheists who claim it is Christians believing in fiction.

By the Laws of Logic, either there is a God or there is not a God: one statement is true, one is false; both cannot be true.

Light has an origin, a source from the beginning when God said, “Let there be light.”

I shall go with God, as the evidence is overwhelming.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse — Romans 1:20

DP - You don't know what "evidence" means, apparently.

And I suspect you are actually an atheist troll, because it's hard for me to accept someone actually utilizes the idiotic logic you present. FYI, you are not helping.

I am neither a troll nor an atheist.

The PP bases his atheism on an episode of Star Trek, a work of fiction.

To me, that is irony because it is the atheists who claim we Christians believe in a fictional God and a book of fiction called the Bible.

The evidence for God is abundant and clear.

Spiders are not taught, neither learn on their own how to spin a web. Spiders do this in the dark without using their eyes. This says the knowledge to spin a web to catch its food must have been programmed into their tiny brains.

Science (so-called) uses the fiction of Evolution to claim, without demonstrating with evidence, how this information entered the spider and is passed on to each generation.

And oh the lucky chance this information happened at rhe same time the spider evolved silk glands, spinnerets, and oiled feet, and both male and female both happened to evolve within each other’s lifespan.

Poppycock! The spider was created by God, both male and female at the same time with all the information and body parts needed to spin webs, catch and eat food, and reproduce.

Who taught the bird with its tiny brain to sit on its eggs until they hatch? Who taught them to sing and build nests? Who taught the wasp to chew wood into paper to build its nest?

Multiply these examples by millions or more and you see clearly that it is impossible for all this to have occurred by The Theory Of It Just-so Happened.

Romans 1:20 stands true.

Many claims.

No evidence.

No proof.

Not even a foundation premise for a simple syllogism that shows that any of those creatures needed to be taught.

Because your entire world view is based on a presupposition that a god exists.

But that is not how logic works. So you fail, completely.

DP. We know.

Talking to the atheists on this board is like talking to an anti-vaxxer. It doesn’t matter what you say. No one is more confident than someone with a third grade education who watched a 15 minute video on YouTube.

This is classic ad hominem.

If you had a decent, substantive response, you would provide it.

You do not, so you insult, malign, insult, sh*tpost.... anything to deflect and soothe the sting.

You also fail completely, but at least the failure before you tried. You are worse. WAY worse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Another religious freak died, scammer, creeper bit golly gee wiz he was a church going dude!

The Louisiana native was best known for being a captivating Pentecostal preacher with a massive following before being caught on camera with a prostitute in New Orleans in 1988, one of a string of successful TV preachers brought down in the 1980s and ’90s by sex scandals. He continued preaching for decades, but with a reduced audience.

Religion is always the scam. And it’s never been the drag Queens.

OPPs why do people stay religious?? They are either stupid or scammers or child molesters or morally corrupt. Or all of the above.

There are lots of religious people who are educated. They're intelligent and have good jobs and are decent people. They're just dumb when it comes to religion.

So they are essentially followers, which is fine, I don’t think I am better than religious people, I just wish people had more evolved critical thinking skills.

I think a lot of people do have evolved critical thinking skills, except when it comes to religion.

Exactly. Religious indoctrination quiets the prefrontal cortex (critical thinking) and activates the amygdala (fear center) It’s hard to overcome that

But a lot of people have overcome it, including me. How did we do it? I my case, I just started reading.

I never truly believed, but I can honestly date my full conversion to atheism to an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation. No advanced society (or thinking person) believes in Gods.

How ironic that your faith in “no God” is based on fiction, when it is atheists who claim it is Christians believing in fiction.

By the Laws of Logic, either there is a God or there is not a God: one statement is true, one is false; both cannot be true.

Light has an origin, a source from the beginning when God said, “Let there be light.”

I shall go with God, as the evidence is overwhelming.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse — Romans 1:20

DP - You don't know what "evidence" means, apparently.

And I suspect you are actually an atheist troll, because it's hard for me to accept someone actually utilizes the idiotic logic you present. FYI, you are not helping.

I am neither a troll nor an atheist.

The PP bases his atheism on an episode of Star Trek, a work of fiction.

To me, that is irony because it is the atheists who claim we Christians believe in a fictional God and a book of fiction called the Bible.

The evidence for God is abundant and clear.

Spiders are not taught, neither learn on their own how to spin a web. Spiders do this in the dark without using their eyes. This says the knowledge to spin a web to catch its food must have been programmed into their tiny brains.

Science (so-called) uses the fiction of Evolution to claim, without demonstrating with evidence, how this information entered the spider and is passed on to each generation.

And oh the lucky chance this information happened at rhe same time the spider evolved silk glands, spinnerets, and oiled feet, and both male and female both happened to evolve within each other’s lifespan.

Poppycock! The spider was created by God, both male and female at the same time with all the information and body parts needed to spin webs, catch and eat food, and reproduce.

Who taught the bird with its tiny brain to sit on its eggs until they hatch? Who taught them to sing and build nests? Who taught the wasp to chew wood into paper to build its nest?

Multiply these examples by millions or more and you see clearly that it is impossible for all this to have occurred by The Theory Of It Just-so Happened.

Romans 1:20 stands true.

Many claims.

No evidence.

No proof.

Not even a foundation premise for a simple syllogism that shows that any of those creatures needed to be taught.

Because your entire world view is based on a presupposition that a god exists.

But that is not how logic works. So you fail, completely.

DP. We know.

Talking to the atheists on this board is like talking to an anti-vaxxer. It doesn’t matter what you say. No one is more confident than someone with a third grade education who watched a 15 minute video on YouTube.

This is classic ad hominem.

If you had a decent, substantive response, you would provide it.

You do not, so you insult, malign, insult, sh*tpost.... anything to deflect and soothe the sting.

You also fail completely, but at least the failure before you tried. You are worse. WAY worse.

NP. Why do you care what someone else believes? Why should that person have to "prove" it?

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Anonymous wrote:Another religious freak died, scammer, creeper bit golly gee wiz he was a church going dude!

The Louisiana native was best known for being a captivating Pentecostal preacher with a massive following before being caught on camera with a prostitute in New Orleans in 1988, one of a string of successful TV preachers brought down in the 1980s and ’90s by sex scandals. He continued preaching for decades, but with a reduced audience.

Religion is always the scam. And it’s never been the drag Queens.

OPPs why do people stay religious?? They are either stupid or scammers or child molesters or morally corrupt. Or all of the above.

There are lots of religious people who are educated. They're intelligent and have good jobs and are decent people. They're just dumb when it comes to religion.

So they are essentially followers, which is fine, I don’t think I am better than religious people, I just wish people had more evolved critical thinking skills.

I think a lot of people do have evolved critical thinking skills, except when it comes to religion.

Exactly. Religious indoctrination quiets the prefrontal cortex (critical thinking) and activates the amygdala (fear center) It’s hard to overcome that

But a lot of people have overcome it, including me. How did we do it? I my case, I just started reading.

I never truly believed, but I can honestly date my full conversion to atheism to an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation. No advanced society (or thinking person) believes in Gods.

How ironic that your faith in “no God” is based on fiction, when it is atheists who claim it is Christians believing in fiction.

By the Laws of Logic, either there is a God or there is not a God: one statement is true, one is false; both cannot be true.

Light has an origin, a source from the beginning when God said, “Let there be light.”

I shall go with God, as the evidence is overwhelming.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse — Romans 1:20

DP - You don't know what "evidence" means, apparently.

And I suspect you are actually an atheist troll, because it's hard for me to accept someone actually utilizes the idiotic logic you present. FYI, you are not helping.

I am neither a troll nor an atheist.

The PP bases his atheism on an episode of Star Trek, a work of fiction.

To me, that is irony because it is the atheists who claim we Christians believe in a fictional God and a book of fiction called the Bible.

The evidence for God is abundant and clear.

Spiders are not taught, neither learn on their own how to spin a web. Spiders do this in the dark without using their eyes. This says the knowledge to spin a web to catch its food must have been programmed into their tiny brains.

Science (so-called) uses the fiction of Evolution to claim, without demonstrating with evidence, how this information entered the spider and is passed on to each generation.

And oh the lucky chance this information happened at rhe same time the spider evolved silk glands, spinnerets, and oiled feet, and both male and female both happened to evolve within each other’s lifespan.

Poppycock! The spider was created by God, both male and female at the same time with all the information and body parts needed to spin webs, catch and eat food, and reproduce.

Who taught the bird with its tiny brain to sit on its eggs until they hatch? Who taught them to sing and build nests? Who taught the wasp to chew wood into paper to build its nest?

Multiply these examples by millions or more and you see clearly that it is impossible for all this to have occurred by The Theory Of It Just-so Happened.

Romans 1:20 stands true.

Many claims.

No evidence.

No proof.

Not even a foundation premise for a simple syllogism that shows that any of those creatures needed to be taught.

Because your entire world view is based on a presupposition that a god exists.

But that is not how logic works. So you fail, completely.

DP. We know.

Talking to the atheists on this board is like talking to an anti-vaxxer. It doesn’t matter what you say. No one is more confident than someone with a third grade education who watched a 15 minute video on YouTube.

Most members of the National Academy of Science are atheists.

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Anonymous wrote:You can’t rationalize faith just like you can’t rationalize love. Why do people keep loving their children? For the same reason they stay religious. Because they are alive.

Lots of people love their children without being religious.

Obviously, but not the point

What is the point?

That faith, similarly to love, cannot be rationalized.

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Anonymous wrote:Another religious freak died, scammer, creeper bit golly gee wiz he was a church going dude!

The Louisiana native was best known for being a captivating Pentecostal preacher with a massive following before being caught on camera with a prostitute in New Orleans in 1988, one of a string of successful TV preachers brought down in the 1980s and ’90s by sex scandals. He continued preaching for decades, but with a reduced audience.

Religion is always the scam. And it’s never been the drag Queens.

OPPs why do people stay religious?? They are either stupid or scammers or child molesters or morally corrupt. Or all of the above.

There are lots of religious people who are educated. They're intelligent and have good jobs and are decent people. They're just dumb when it comes to religion.

So they are essentially followers, which is fine, I don’t think I am better than religious people, I just wish people had more evolved critical thinking skills.

DP: Don't you think it odd to just assume highly intelligent people are dumb about one thing? Has it occurred to you that maybe they've studied and thought about it more than you have? Maybe they have a better and more nuanced understanding of their own beliefs than whatever it is you are assuming they believe?

I hear you, pp. Most of the people arguing against religion on this forum have a third grade education in it or less.
Why would OP assume that adults believe in things the way they were explained to them when they were eight?

I cannot fathom how anyone on modern day earth literally believes stories from ancient times, like word for word. Learned adults are doing this. I may not be a religious scholar but this seems insane to me. It’s fine to learn ethics and cautionary tales, etc., but not literally following these texts.

Yeah. It’s really easy to not understand something that you know almost nothing about.

It’s also very easy to be sure that you are right about something when you don’t know much about the subject. That’s why anti-vaxxers are so confident in their rhetoric while medical research papers end with a discussion of where they might have been wrong. It’s easy to feel certain that you are right when you have a simplistic view of a subject.

If you think that educated adults believe the Bible stories in the way you were taught them when you were eight, you are mistaken.

And the Bible is liter-ary. It isn’t liter-al. If it were literal, it wouldn’t make any sense. But there is more than one kind of truth than a description of literal facts. If you were to describe a rainbow to someone who had never seen one by talking about the different light waves bouncing off water droplets in the air and hitting your retina, you would be describing a literal event, but you would be missing something essential about the rainbow. Same thing if you only talked about its beauty. You need to understand some things in multiple ways before you can start to grasp the truth of what they are.

I am guessing you are the same guy that repeats this trope when challenged by the obvious problems with the Bible. Why not just describe the methodology to know what is true and what is metaphorical? Telling people “you just don’t understand” is a clear cop-out.

If it is all literal, then, well no it can’t be as any thinking person can see.

If it’s all metaphorical, then who gives a hoot what it says because it’s no different from any other fiction?

I don’t normally post on this forum, so I’m not familiar with who you are talking about. I’m a doctor, and I find this same kind of thinking frustrating when talking to people about science and medicine.

I thought my rainbow analogy was pretty good on describing why both the literal and metaphorical descriptions are needed to understand something. I’m sorry you didn’t find it helpful.

What is a metaphorical description of a rainbow?

Why bother with all that anyway? Why not just describe the process used to tell what parts of the Bible are truth and which are metaphor? And don’t just respond with “textual criticism” because that has been done by experts and shows the many flaws in the Bible.

I am not familiar with the “process”you are talking about.

If you were to describe a rainbow to an alien who had never been to earth, you would describe light waves, but that’s not all, right? There is more to a rainbow than that. It is beautiful. It makes you feel a certain way.
I’m not sure why you say that a metaphor isn’t true. Would you say that a poem is a less true description of love than an article about oxytocin and dopamine release?

The feelings one gets from reading the Bible or any religious text is not fact. A feeling isn’t fact.

So are you saying that a love poem is not as realistic of a description of love as a textbook entry on oxytocin and dopamine release during intercourse?

Or are you saying that love doesn’t exist because it is a feeling?

I will say that if you believe that love is simply a release of neurotransmitters and nothing else, and a rainbow is simply light rays hitting your retina and nothing else, then I understand why you don’t believe in God.

And I, a DP, think you're trying very hard to make pp look stupid so you can say you understand how such a stupid person would not believe in God -- as if believing in an invisible, supernatural being makes sense. It does not.

NP. It only matters if it makes sense to the person who believes. It does not matter to that person if it does not make sense to you.

It almost sounds like you're saying that a person can make up anything and if they believe it, then it makes sense.

To that person, yes.

This can be beneficial and provide hope and comfort for people, however are you unable to see the many downsides, the dark sides of religions?

So, let those people find hope and comfort in their religion.

Fine just don’t hold nonbelievers to your delusional standards and beliefs.

I'm not. I don't care what you believe/don't believe.

Do you think people who don't believe in God will suffer for eternity in hell?

I don’t think anyone will be suffering for the eternity. They don’t know Jesus, but he knows (and loves) them. I do believe, however, that they are missing out big time in this life. Faith is like a third dimension, which gives my life so much depth and joy.

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Anonymous wrote:Another religious freak died, scammer, creeper bit golly gee wiz he was a church going dude!

The Louisiana native was best known for being a captivating Pentecostal preacher with a massive following before being caught on camera with a prostitute in New Orleans in 1988, one of a string of successful TV preachers brought down in the 1980s and ’90s by sex scandals. He continued preaching for decades, but with a reduced audience.

Religion is always the scam. And it’s never been the drag Queens.

OPPs why do people stay religious?? They are either stupid or scammers or child molesters or morally corrupt. Or all of the above.

There are lots of religious people who are educated. They're intelligent and have good jobs and are decent people. They're just dumb when it comes to religion.

So they are essentially followers, which is fine, I don’t think I am better than religious people, I just wish people had more evolved critical thinking skills.

I think a lot of people do have evolved critical thinking skills, except when it comes to religion.

Exactly. Religious indoctrination quiets the prefrontal cortex (critical thinking) and activates the amygdala (fear center) It’s hard to overcome that

But a lot of people have overcome it, including me. How did we do it? I my case, I just started reading.

I never truly believed, but I can honestly date my full conversion to atheism to an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation. No advanced society (or thinking person) believes in Gods.

How ironic that your faith in “no God” is based on fiction, when it is atheists who claim it is Christians believing in fiction.

By the Laws of Logic, either there is a God or there is not a God: one statement is true, one is false; both cannot be true.

Light has an origin, a source from the beginning when God said, “Let there be light.”

I shall go with God, as the evidence is overwhelming.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse — Romans 1:20

DP - You don't know what "evidence" means, apparently.

And I suspect you are actually an atheist troll, because it's hard for me to accept someone actually utilizes the idiotic logic you present. FYI, you are not helping.

I am neither a troll nor an atheist.

The PP bases his atheism on an episode of Star Trek, a work of fiction.

To me, that is irony because it is the atheists who claim we Christians believe in a fictional God and a book of fiction called the Bible.

The evidence for God is abundant and clear.

Spiders are not taught, neither learn on their own how to spin a web. Spiders do this in the dark without using their eyes. This says the knowledge to spin a web to catch its food must have been programmed into their tiny brains.

Science (so-called) uses the fiction of Evolution to claim, without demonstrating with evidence, how this information entered the spider and is passed on to each generation.

And oh the lucky chance this information happened at rhe same time the spider evolved silk glands, spinnerets, and oiled feet, and both male and female both happened to evolve within each other’s lifespan.

Poppycock! The spider was created by God, both male and female at the same time with all the information and body parts needed to spin webs, catch and eat food, and reproduce.

Who taught the bird with its tiny brain to sit on its eggs until they hatch? Who taught them to sing and build nests? Who taught the wasp to chew wood into paper to build its nest?

Multiply these examples by millions or more and you see clearly that it is impossible for all this to have occurred by The Theory Of It Just-so Happened.

Romans 1:20 stands true.

Many claims.

No evidence.

No proof.

Not even a foundation premise for a simple syllogism that shows that any of those creatures needed to be taught.

Because your entire world view is based on a presupposition that a god exists.

But that is not how logic works. So you fail, completely.

DP. We know.

Talking to the atheists on this board is like talking to an anti-vaxxer. It doesn’t matter what you say. No one is more confident than someone with a third grade education who watched a 15 minute video on YouTube.

This is classic ad hominem.

If you had a decent, substantive response, you would provide it.

You do not, so you insult, malign, insult, sh*tpost.... anything to deflect and soothe the sting.

You also fail completely, but at least the failure before you tried. You are worse. WAY worse.

NP. Why do you care what someone else believes? Why should that person have to "prove" it?

Why do you care why I care? Don't you see the irony of your post?

This is a discussion forum. We are discussing it. You're here voluntarily, as am I.

Now, do you have evidence that what you believe is true? Or would you prefer to just insult again?

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Anonymous wrote:You can’t rationalize faith just like you can’t rationalize love. Why do people keep loving their children? For the same reason they stay religious. Because they are alive.

Lots of people love their children without being religious.

Obviously, but not the point

What is the point?

That faith, similarly to love, cannot be rationalized.

"cannot be rationalized" = "irrational"

I genuinely give you credit for admitting that. It kind of ends the discussion, if that is your objective.

Although I strongly disagree that love "cannot be rationalized". A google search of "why do we love" turns up many, many rational explanations, from physiological, evolutionary, societal, and psychological.

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Anonymous wrote:Another religious freak died, scammer, creeper bit golly gee wiz he was a church going dude!

The Louisiana native was best known for being a captivating Pentecostal preacher with a massive following before being caught on camera with a prostitute in New Orleans in 1988, one of a string of successful TV preachers brought down in the 1980s and ’90s by sex scandals. He continued preaching for decades, but with a reduced audience.

Religion is always the scam. And it’s never been the drag Queens.

OPPs why do people stay religious?? They are either stupid or scammers or child molesters or morally corrupt. Or all of the above.

There are lots of religious people who are educated. They're intelligent and have good jobs and are decent people. They're just dumb when it comes to religion.

So they are essentially followers, which is fine, I don’t think I am better than religious people, I just wish people had more evolved critical thinking skills.

I think a lot of people do have evolved critical thinking skills, except when it comes to religion.

Exactly. Religious indoctrination quiets the prefrontal cortex (critical thinking) and activates the amygdala (fear center) It’s hard to overcome that

But a lot of people have overcome it, including me. How did we do it? I my case, I just started reading.

I never truly believed, but I can honestly date my full conversion to atheism to an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation. No advanced society (or thinking person) believes in Gods.

How ironic that your faith in “no God” is based on fiction, when it is atheists who claim it is Christians believing in fiction.

By the Laws of Logic, either there is a God or there is not a God: one statement is true, one is false; both cannot be true.

Light has an origin, a source from the beginning when God said, “Let there be light.”

I shall go with God, as the evidence is overwhelming.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse — Romans 1:20

DP - You don't know what "evidence" means, apparently.

And I suspect you are actually an atheist troll, because it's hard for me to accept someone actually utilizes the idiotic logic you present. FYI, you are not helping.

I am neither a troll nor an atheist.

The PP bases his atheism on an episode of Star Trek, a work of fiction.

To me, that is irony because it is the atheists who claim we Christians believe in a fictional God and a book of fiction called the Bible.

The evidence for God is abundant and clear.

Spiders are not taught, neither learn on their own how to spin a web. Spiders do this in the dark without using their eyes. This says the knowledge to spin a web to catch its food must have been programmed into their tiny brains.

Science (so-called) uses the fiction of Evolution to claim, without demonstrating with evidence, how this information entered the spider and is passed on to each generation.

And oh the lucky chance this information happened at rhe same time the spider evolved silk glands, spinnerets, and oiled feet, and both male and female both happened to evolve within each other’s lifespan.

Poppycock! The spider was created by God, both male and female at the same time with all the information and body parts needed to spin webs, catch and eat food, and reproduce.

Who taught the bird with its tiny brain to sit on its eggs until they hatch? Who taught them to sing and build nests? Who taught the wasp to chew wood into paper to build its nest?

Multiply these examples by millions or more and you see clearly that it is impossible for all this to have occurred by The Theory Of It Just-so Happened.

Romans 1:20 stands true.

Many claims.

No evidence.

No proof.

Not even a foundation premise for a simple syllogism that shows that any of those creatures needed to be taught.

Because your entire world view is based on a presupposition that a god exists.

But that is not how logic works. So you fail, completely.

DP. We know.

Talking to the atheists on this board is like talking to an anti-vaxxer. It doesn’t matter what you say. No one is more confident than someone with a third grade education who watched a 15 minute video on YouTube.

Most members of the National Academy of Science are atheists.

Okay? None of them are posting here.