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Anonymous wrote:In: OOS (DCPS); 4.45 W / 3.9 UW; Government & Politics; Extracurriculars centered around scouting; hoping for merit aid!

Oops, forgot to mention also invited to Honors College

SAT? ACT?

TO

well that is irritating because my kid is in state and had a 1560 SAT, 4.7 WGPA / 3.8 W and got spring admit which is fine except it means she could not be considered for the LEP she wants

Did you research freshman connections at all? https://exst.umd.edu/current-incoming-and-former-umd-students/freshmen-connection

Yes, freshman connection is fine if you don’t want an LEP. Our frustration is that the LP he wants didn’t even get the chance to see his application since he only got freshman connection. If he didn’t want an LEP, we wouldn’t care at all that he only got freshman connection.

The problem with freshman connection is it means that LEP does not even get to see your application. He is a fantastic applicant for his LEP. It’s frustrating that they didn’t get the chance to review his application. Now we have to decide if he should take the chance of trying to be an internal transfer to his major instate or which is risky, or pay out of state to get his guaranteed major. As Maryland taxpayers, we’d like him to be able to do his major instate and the other Maryland schools don’t offer it (civil engineering).

FC does not eliminate you from getting into engineering. I don't know how I can make it any more clear. https://admissions.umd.edu/academics/current-student-lep-admissions

Yes, getting FC means you CANNOT get into engineering when you are admitted. It means you must be an internal transfer. GO look at the UMD 2029 Parents Group FB site - Eden Rome Hurley from the admission office has directly confirmed that if you are a spring admit/FC - the engineering school does not even get to school your application. As a spring admit you are automatically put in Letters and Sciences.

But you have to take the gateway classes first and if you pass the threshold you are an automatic admit. Even as a freshman direct admit you have to pass a certain threshold. If your kid got FC the likelihood of them getting engineering even as a fall admit is very low. It's not the end all be all. They can still take the gateway classes.

I hope you are right that you just have to meet those grade standards, but even if that is true, the grade standards are not the same. You have to have an overall college GPA of 3.0 to get into engineering as an internal transfer, in addition to certain grades on the gateway classes. If you are a direct admit, you only have to maintain a 2.0 GPA overall, in addition to certain grades on the gateway classes. So there is less room to mess up grade wise as you are adjusting to college if you are trying to internally transfer to engineering.

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Anonymous wrote:In: OOS (DCPS); 4.45 W / 3.9 UW; Government & Politics; Extracurriculars centered around scouting; hoping for merit aid!

Oops, forgot to mention also invited to Honors College

SAT? ACT?

TO

well that is irritating because my kid is in state and had a 1560 SAT, 4.7 WGPA / 3.8 W and got spring admit which is fine except it means she could not be considered for the LEP she wants

Did you research freshman connections at all? https://exst.umd.edu/current-incoming-and-former-umd-students/freshmen-connection

Yes, freshman connection is fine if you don’t want an LEP. Our frustration is that the LP he wants didn’t even get the chance to see his application since he only got freshman connection. If he didn’t want an LEP, we wouldn’t care at all that he only got freshman connection.

FC just means you aren't a direct admit to Engineering. You are making it seem like you have no opportunity to become an engineering student. As others have said - if your student completes the gateway courses within the GPA requirements they will get into Engineering. It honestly is not as bad as you are making it out to be. Your student was accepted to UMD. Many others were not as lucky.

The problem with freshman connection is it means that LEP does not even get to see your application. He is a fantastic applicant for his LEP. It’s frustrating that they didn’t get the chance to review his application. Now we have to decide if he should take the chance of trying to be an internal transfer to his major instate or which is risky, or pay out of state to get his guaranteed major. As Maryland taxpayers, we’d like him to be able to do his major instate and the other Maryland schools don’t offer it (civil engineering).

FC does not eliminate you from getting into engineering. I don't know how I can make it any more clear. https://admissions.umd.edu/academics/current-student-lep-admissions

Yes, getting FC means you CANNOT get into engineering when you are admitted. It means you must be an internal transfer. GO look at the UMD 2029 Parents Group FB site - Eden Rome Hurley from the admission office has directly confirmed that if you are a spring admit/FC - the engineering school does not even get to school your application. As a spring admit you are automatically put in Letters and Sciences.

But you have to take the gateway classes first and if you pass the threshold you are an automatic admit. Even as a freshman direct admit you have to pass a certain threshold. If your kid got FC the likelihood of them getting engineering even as a fall admit is very low. It's not the end all be all. They can still take the gateway classes.

I'm not sure the bolded is accurate. My kid shines at math and science - 790 Math SAT, took MVC as a junior, got a 5 on BC Calc as a tenth grader. Took tons of engineering classes in high school. He does, however, have a handful of Bs in English and French. I suspect that is why he got FC - his GPA was brought down by those grades. I suspect the engineering school would have accepted him and not cared about a few Bs in French and English. But I could be wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:In for CSNS honors!
4.98 at Poolesville SMCS/ MCPS

Congrats!

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Anyone NOT heard from UMD yet????

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a member of the UMD parents group and there is almost a revolt among those with high scoring SATs with perfect or near perfect GPAs who didn’t get Honors. My kid is one of them.

It’s irritating to read about all the TO kids who got Honors.

I'd feel the same way, not remotely fair.

Why do you want UMD so badly if your stats are that high? You could probably get into a much more competitive school. Is it a cost thing? Because top schools usually have really strong endowments and are MUCH more generous with financial aid.

My kid did get into the Honors College, just empathizing with parents of non-TO kids who didn’t. Wanting UMD is not rocket science. For a donut hole family, elite colleges cost 3x as much!

NP here - UMD is a great school - not everyone on DCUM can afford or wants their kids to go further away than is a reasonable driving distance. My high stats kid - 34 ACT, 4.65 GPA (who got in - not TO, not Honors, not CS) - would be paying 2-3x as much to attend a school out of state. Factor in the fact that alot of these donut hole families have 1 or 2 fed parents who all of a sudden don't know if they'll have a job tomorrow, and a low in-state tuition at a very good public college is incredibly attractive - which is why so many apply. Paying anywhere from $45k to $80k per year OOS vs. paying $30K in-state is a real financial decision that should not be shrugged off so lightly.

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This is so true. We got in at UMD and are thrilled and also got good merit aid, but as a Fed family the landscape has changed drastically and we can’t afford the extra or even think about the costs of travel.

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Anonymous wrote:In for CSNS honors!
4.98 at Poolesville SMCS/ MCPS

Whats your SAT or ACT score?

1580. She took it 3 times. We did not take the ACT.

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Anonymous wrote:In for CSNS honors!
4.98 at Poolesville SMCS/ MCPS

Whats your SAT or ACT score?

1580. She took it 3 times. We did not take the ACT.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a member of the UMD parents group and there is almost a revolt among those with high scoring SATs with perfect or near perfect GPAs who didn’t get Honors. My kid is one of them.

It’s irritating to read about all the TO kids who got Honors.

I'd feel the same way, not remotely fair.

Why do you want UMD so badly if your stats are that high? You could probably get into a much more competitive school. Is it a cost thing? Because top schools usually have really strong endowments and are MUCH more generous with financial aid.

My kid did get into the Honors College, just empathizing with parents of non-TO kids who didn’t. Wanting UMD is not rocket science. For a donut hole family, elite colleges cost 3x as much!

I think UMD PUNISHED TO kids more. My TO kids friends with same or lower GPAs with high standardized scores got in. Same exact GPA and ECs her best friend my kid but she got 35 ACT and my kid did TO. So my kid did not get in. My daughters friend is super nice, but she did take SAT like 4 times and bombed. Then did ACT several times with Prep and tutoring got a 35.

So in her case scores helped. UMD should have been clearer how they weight Test scores for SAT and ACT. Some kids may have submitted a lower test score and got peanlized or some kids like my kid did TO and did not realize she should have submitted test. Either way my kid wanted in for bragging rights but was not going to go as she wants to go away to school.

But it seems crazy 4.7-4.85 WGPAs from W schools got straight up rejects cause did TO or submitted a test score they should not have.

The TO kid I advise got in + Honors.
Reject w/ 4.7 does not surprise me. Also, how many 4.85 are getting rejected, and what was the actual rigor of those kids?

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If my honors admit kid did not get merit upon admission, is he out of contention for BK and the other larger merit awards?

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Anonymous wrote:If my honors admit kid did not get merit upon admission, is he out of contention for BK and the other larger merit awards?

If they are in honors they will be considered.

All freshman applicants to the University of Maryland who meet the early action deadline of November 1 and are invited to the Honors College are considered for nomination to the Banneker/Key Scholarship. No additional application materials are required. The Banneker/Key Scholarship Selection Committee members carefully review the entire application of each Banneker/Key Scholarship nominee. Semifinalists for the scholarship are invited to interview as part of the final selection process. Each fall, we welcome about 150 new Banneker/Key Scholars to campus.

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DD got accepted in a top 10 out of state. UMD is not even a consideration for us although she picked it as a safety only. I better pay more for a top 10 than force my kid to stay at an average school just because of the lower tuition. It is not the kid’s fault if the parent can’t afford to pay for a top school.

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Anonymous wrote:DD got accepted in a top 10 out of state. UMD is not even a consideration for us although she picked it as a safety only. I better pay more for a top 10 than force my kid to stay at an average school just because of the lower tuition. It is not the kid’s fault if the parent can’t afford to pay for a top school.

You’re an insensitive moron. Shocked you produced a kid who could get into a T10. Recessive gene, I guess.

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Anonymous wrote:DD got accepted in a top 10 out of state. UMD is not even a consideration for us although she picked it as a safety only. I better pay more for a top 10 than force my kid to stay at an average school just because of the lower tuition. It is not the kid’s fault if the parent can’t afford to pay for a top school.

Congratulations, you’ve discovered that your wealth will eliminate your daughter’s competition from smarter and more capable kids who didn’t win the wealthy parent lottery. I’m not sure that is something to brag about.

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Anonymous wrote:DD got accepted in a top 10 out of state. UMD is not even a consideration for us although she picked it as a safety only. I better pay more for a top 10 than force my kid to stay at an average school just because of the lower tuition. It is not the kid’s fault if the parent can’t afford to pay for a top school.

I'm super glad your kid and you won't be part of the UMD family.

-UMD grad parent

Tell me you voted for Trump without telling me you voted for Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:DD got accepted in a top 10 out of state. UMD is not even a consideration for us although she picked it as a safety only. I better pay more for a top 10 than force my kid to stay at an average school just because of the lower tuition. It is not the kid’s fault if the parent can’t afford to pay for a top school.

I'm sure her kid will be studying underwater basket weaving at an Ivy and then she'll wonder why she can't find a job in 5 years.