Lessons learned so far: 2024-2025

Anonymous
I read this and thought I'd share it here. It was really interesting and helpful to see how certain ECs are viewed. There are a few AOs who respond to this thread that I follow on Reddit generally (bigjoyandsmalljoy) who always have thoughtful responses.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/1h2pirc/aos_thoughts_on_the_ecs_youre_seeing_these_days/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:In RD, it rarely works out for "oversubscribed" majors (CS, engineering, applied math, business, biology or pre-med). It often DOES work out in RD for niche, creative or humanities majors.


I would love to hear more about this - personal experiences with major and specific schools where "it does work out in RD"?
Anonymous
This isn't specific to this year but once your kid is in, definitely understand the major requirements. Our oldest kid is in a pre-professional major which I was completely unfamiliar with. I had the great benefit of going to a major-specific event the summer before their freshman year. I couldn't believe how different their experience was from students in other majors. It was important to understand going into this phase of their life what they would be experiencing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I read this and thought I'd share it here. It was really interesting and helpful to see how certain ECs are viewed. There are a few AOs who respond to this thread that I follow on Reddit generally (bigjoyandsmalljoy) who always have thoughtful responses.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/1h2pirc/aos_thoughts_on_the_ecs_youre_seeing_these_days/


Reading through these, this caught my eye:

- the best ECs from the AO perspective are "very niche and showed life experiences/perspectives that are different from most students"

- "Essays on their own don’t “offset” anything, but the impression we can gather about a student can drive them to a conversation at a committee level (where students get admitted). We want to learn something real about you—what gets you up in the morning, why you are who you are, what kind of person you want to be. It requires self-reflection that can be challenging. When it really feels like a student is just checking the boxes to get accepted to a top college, it just all falls a little flat. You can still keep your activities list in mind, but try to do things that do actually matter to you and excite you. You’d be surprised how much that genuineness can come through in an application."

- " there are ECs that require real talent for something in a way that can't be checked off with minimal effort, nor indeed by any sufficiently smart kid who devotes a lot of effort to it. So that is one way to distinguish yourself from the smart, hard-working kids just following a formula, to actually have a real talent for something the college is looking for in light of the valued activities at that college (sometimes known as "buckets", in that the college is trying to fill various buckets in each enrolled class)."

- "Second, there are ECs that are actually unusual for kids to do. So that is another way to distinguish yourself from the formula kids. There may be no particular "bucket" for these kids, other than the "this seems like a truly interesting, mature, and self-motivated kid that other kids would really enjoy getting to know" bucket. But that is a potentially very powerful bucket!"

- "To sum up, the kids here who are sharing ideas about "good ECs" are basically encouraging each other to all compete for the same few buckets, and that means it cannot possibly be an optimal strategy to follow their advice, because you are stacking the numbers against you.

What you instead would want to do is figure out what would not even occur to these kids to do, and then do it with dedication, and as relevant talent, in a way that would truly make you more interesting than the formula kids."

This advice is often overlooked here and reddit and other places, with everyone clamoring to the same summer programs, same awards, same competitions. Its really good food for thought.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I read this and thought I'd share it here. It was really interesting and helpful to see how certain ECs are viewed. There are a few AOs who respond to this thread that I follow on Reddit generally (bigjoyandsmalljoy) who always have thoughtful responses.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/1h2pirc/aos_thoughts_on_the_ecs_youre_seeing_these_days/


Thank-you for posting this. If people read and think about the responses from bigjoyandsmalljoy and niceunparticularman it would save much frustration and angst. Many things aren't what many want them (or believe them) to be while other things which are very important are discounted.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Start preparing for rush spring of senior year if you want a top-tier bid. Connect with fraternities/sororities on Instagram, figure out who the top dogs in the house are, and start engaging with them. Don't be the rando rolling in during formal rush thinking your Sperrys and Southern Tide will push you to the top of the list. Build that network early!


Is this a serious tip? How does one "prepare for rush" right now? How exactly should my DD "engage" with the sororities?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:SAT score really matters.


It really does not!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
- Find a safety/likely that releases decisions in December. I cannot tell you how much stress relief it brings to your kid when they are in somewhere they are genuinely happy to attend early in the process


This. My daughter is a stress machine and knowing in December that she was in somewhere she would be happy made the process much easier on her. She has since gotten into her preferred schools and won't be attending that school but knowing it was there was a godsend over the weeks between that decision and her other EA decisions.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:That it's a discouraging process favoring rich kids and kids who gamed the process early by picking certain classes to maximize GPA early on, carefully crafted everything, tutored to the max for scores. My only hope is employers realize the cost and general landscape mean good students with potential end up at all sorts of colleges.


They know, don't worry. I think many employers are less excited about elite schools, especially Ivies.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Start preparing for rush spring of senior year if you want a top-tier bid. Connect with fraternities/sororities on Instagram, figure out who the top dogs in the house are, and start engaging with them. Don't be the rando rolling in during formal rush thinking your Sperrys and Southern Tide will push you to the top of the list. Build that network early!


Is this a serious tip? How does one "prepare for rush" right now? How exactly should my DD "engage" with the sororities?


Don't worry about this. The PP is just the usual "Greek god" weirdo who is always oddly pushing frats/sororities.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That it's a discouraging process favoring rich kids and kids who gamed the process early by picking certain classes to maximize GPA early on, carefully crafted everything, tutored to the max for scores. My only hope is employers realize the cost and general landscape mean good students with potential end up at all sorts of colleges.


They know, don't worry. I think many employers are less excited about elite schools, especially Ivies.


+1000
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:SAT score really matters.


It really does not!


DP: It really does. As soon as my kid got PSAT scores back, the guidance office let us know that DC would be in the running for Presidential Scholarships at several schools.
Anonymous
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
Seriously, it seems so, so random. Kids with great stats not getting in (deferred and rejected) and kids with objectively lesser stats (significantly lower grades, rigor, test scores) getting into GREAT schools. It makes no sense.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
Seriously, it seems so, so random. Kids with great stats not getting in (deferred and rejected) and kids with objectively lesser stats (significantly lower grades, rigor, test scores) getting into GREAT schools. It makes no sense.


the kids with lesser stats often have "something" - very unique and defining and immensely memorable. its the holistic part of admissions.
I had one of these kids.
Anonymous
Lesson learned is don’t overstress
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