QuestBridge kids taking half the spots at top schools, and it’s unfair

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I'm sorry to see so much hate for this program.

We are white UMC. My kids attend a very diverse mixed-income high school, one that DCUM sneers at. They have friends who are wealthy and friends who rely on SNAP to get dinner on the table.

DC applied ED to a very selective college, obviously a reach. His friend matched through QB to this same school. DC's application was deferred, friend is committed there. DC's grades are better, has more academic awards and leadership in ECs (but friend has held a part time job consistently since he was old enough to work, which DC hasn't done), and SAT was 200 pts above the friend. But ... the friend is really bright and incredibly hard working. DC's awards and ECs were supported by us parents, while the friend did everything on his own. The friend missed quite a bit of school last year for family reasons, which impacted his grades; DC only missed school when he was really sick with strep throat.

DC will do well wherever he lands. He really hopes the deferral turns into an acceptance, but even if it doesn't, he'll be fine elsewhere. He has lots of targets and safeties that we can afford.

If the friend weren't accepted through QB, he'd graduate high school and turn his part time restaurant job into full time. No college.

None of us are the least bit upset about his friend going to DC's dream school, even if DC doesn't. DC is just happy for his friend.

Legacies, OTOH .... those should be done away with.

Love all of this. Thank you for posting.

Agree thank you for posting - making it so clear what these lower income deal w that umc kids - mine included - never face

Oh please. The QB kids don’t have to deal with the housekeeper, the cook, their overbearing SAHM, or multiple tutors. But most live comfortable, normal lives. Maybe they have to start dinner before a parent gets home or work a part time job. But majority are not slumming it and have a lot of public resources to utilize

Something tells me this isn’t your lived experience. As someone who was a super low income FG kid, there’s so much inequity you’ll never understand. I was fortunate to have access to lots of resources but that didn’t make my life easy and I faced a ton of struggles even when I went to college.

Thankfully I went to UVA and my life changed completely. I am now a senior level exec with a solid income, a homeowner and sending my kid off to college.

It took 1 generation to break out of poverty. My kid has never experienced it and will start life off with advantages others take for granted.

These QB kids are more than deserving of these opportunities.

Yep, I agree. I was not super low income, but low enough to qualify for Pell grants and state grants for low income families, in addition to being first generation to go to college.

I had parents who cared about education and knew it was the way out of blue collar and lower paying jobs. They got me a library card when I was in kindergarten and took me to the library every week. They made it clear to me that school and college were important and that they expected me to work hard in school.

But they knew nothing about applying to colleges, choosing a college or about applying for financial aid. Luckily, my public school had a decent guidance department. My kids have had a completely different middle class life with parents who knew how to help them get ready for college- it is like night and day to how I went about college applications.

You all who grew up with parents who had gone to college have no idea how different life is for kids whose parents haven’t ever been to college.

Questbridge kids at elite boarding schools have better college advising than any working-class kid. So I take it you agree that elite boarding school attendees should not be benefitting from a Questbridge admissions boost, at the expense of poor non-boarding school kids?

But it's not at the expense of poor non-boarding school kids because they also have access to Questbridge

Clearly you don’t know how Questbridge match works. Of course they are taking spots from more deserving students; stop being an apologist.

Yeah, those lucky poors getting all the advantages yet again.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I'm sorry to see so much hate for this program.

We are white UMC. My kids attend a very diverse mixed-income high school, one that DCUM sneers at. They have friends who are wealthy and friends who rely on SNAP to get dinner on the table.

DC applied ED to a very selective college, obviously a reach. His friend matched through QB to this same school. DC's application was deferred, friend is committed there. DC's grades are better, has more academic awards and leadership in ECs (but friend has held a part time job consistently since he was old enough to work, which DC hasn't done), and SAT was 200 pts above the friend. But ... the friend is really bright and incredibly hard working. DC's awards and ECs were supported by us parents, while the friend did everything on his own. The friend missed quite a bit of school last year for family reasons, which impacted his grades; DC only missed school when he was really sick with strep throat.

DC will do well wherever he lands. He really hopes the deferral turns into an acceptance, but even if it doesn't, he'll be fine elsewhere. He has lots of targets and safeties that we can afford.

If the friend weren't accepted through QB, he'd graduate high school and turn his part time restaurant job into full time. No college.

None of us are the least bit upset about his friend going to DC's dream school, even if DC doesn't. DC is just happy for his friend.

Legacies, OTOH .... those should be done away with.

Love all of this. Thank you for posting.

Agree thank you for posting - making it so clear what these lower income deal w that umc kids - mine included - never face

Oh please. The QB kids don’t have to deal with the housekeeper, the cook, their overbearing SAHM, or multiple tutors. But most live comfortable, normal lives. Maybe they have to start dinner before a parent gets home or work a part time job. But majority are not slumming it and have a lot of public resources to utilize

Something tells me this isn’t your lived experience. As someone who was a super low income FG kid, there’s so much inequity you’ll never understand. I was fortunate to have access to lots of resources but that didn’t make my life easy and I faced a ton of struggles even when I went to college.

Thankfully I went to UVA and my life changed completely. I am now a senior level exec with a solid income, a homeowner and sending my kid off to college.

It took 1 generation to break out of poverty. My kid has never experienced it and will start life off with advantages others take for granted.

These QB kids are more than deserving of these opportunities.

Yep, I agree. I was not super low income, but low enough to qualify for Pell grants and state grants for low income families, in addition to being first generation to go to college.

I had parents who cared about education and knew it was the way out of blue collar and lower paying jobs. They got me a library card when I was in kindergarten and took me to the library every week. They made it clear to me that school and college were important and that they expected me to work hard in school.

But they knew nothing about applying to colleges, choosing a college or about applying for financial aid. Luckily, my public school had a decent guidance department. My kids have had a completely different middle class life with parents who knew how to help them get ready for college- it is like night and day to how I went about college applications.

You all who grew up with parents who had gone to college have no idea how different life is for kids whose parents haven’t ever been to college.

Questbridge kids at elite boarding schools have better college advising than any working-class kid. So I take it you agree that elite boarding school attendees should not be benefitting from a Questbridge admissions boost, at the expense of poor non-boarding school kids?

But it's not at the expense of poor non-boarding school kids because they also have access to Questbridge

Clearly you don’t know how Questbridge match works. Of course they are taking spots from more deserving students; stop being an apologist.

Yeah, those lucky poors getting all the advantages yet again.

You should read the thread before you comment, since the point was that poor kids from low-performing schools should, in fact, have the advantage — over Questbridge boarding school kids. Seems like this point should be axiomatic. Because logic.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I'm sorry to see so much hate for this program.

We are white UMC. My kids attend a very diverse mixed-income high school, one that DCUM sneers at. They have friends who are wealthy and friends who rely on SNAP to get dinner on the table.

DC applied ED to a very selective college, obviously a reach. His friend matched through QB to this same school. DC's application was deferred, friend is committed there. DC's grades are better, has more academic awards and leadership in ECs (but friend has held a part time job consistently since he was old enough to work, which DC hasn't done), and SAT was 200 pts above the friend. But ... the friend is really bright and incredibly hard working. DC's awards and ECs were supported by us parents, while the friend did everything on his own. The friend missed quite a bit of school last year for family reasons, which impacted his grades; DC only missed school when he was really sick with strep throat.

DC will do well wherever he lands. He really hopes the deferral turns into an acceptance, but even if it doesn't, he'll be fine elsewhere. He has lots of targets and safeties that we can afford.

If the friend weren't accepted through QB, he'd graduate high school and turn his part time restaurant job into full time. No college.

None of us are the least bit upset about his friend going to DC's dream school, even if DC doesn't. DC is just happy for his friend.

Legacies, OTOH .... those should be done away with.

Love all of this. Thank you for posting.

Agree thank you for posting - making it so clear what these lower income deal w that umc kids - mine included - never face

Oh please. The QB kids don’t have to deal with the housekeeper, the cook, their overbearing SAHM, or multiple tutors. But most live comfortable, normal lives. Maybe they have to start dinner before a parent gets home or work a part time job. But majority are not slumming it and have a lot of public resources to utilize

Something tells me this isn’t your lived experience. As someone who was a super low income FG kid, there’s so much inequity you’ll never understand. I was fortunate to have access to lots of resources but that didn’t make my life easy and I faced a ton of struggles even when I went to college.

Thankfully I went to UVA and my life changed completely. I am now a senior level exec with a solid income, a homeowner and sending my kid off to college.

It took 1 generation to break out of poverty. My kid has never experienced it and will start life off with advantages others take for granted.

These QB kids are more than deserving of these opportunities.

Yep, I agree. I was not super low income, but low enough to qualify for Pell grants and state grants for low income families, in addition to being first generation to go to college.

I had parents who cared about education and knew it was the way out of blue collar and lower paying jobs. They got me a library card when I was in kindergarten and took me to the library every week. They made it clear to me that school and college were important and that they expected me to work hard in school.

But they knew nothing about applying to colleges, choosing a college or about applying for financial aid. Luckily, my public school had a decent guidance department. My kids have had a completely different middle class life with parents who knew how to help them get ready for college- it is like night and day to how I went about college applications.

You all who grew up with parents who had gone to college have no idea how different life is for kids whose parents haven’t ever been to college.

Questbridge kids at elite boarding schools have better college advising than any working-class kid. So I take it you agree that elite boarding school attendees should not be benefitting from a Questbridge admissions boost, at the expense of poor non-boarding school kids?

But it's not at the expense of poor non-boarding school kids because they also have access to Questbridge

Clearly you don’t know how Questbridge match works. Of course they are taking spots from more deserving students; stop being an apologist.

Yeah, those lucky poors getting all the advantages yet again.

You should read the thread before you comment, since the point was that poor kids from low-performing schools should, in fact, have the advantage — over Questbridge boarding school kids. Seems like this point should be axiomatic. Because logic.

I'll do that, as soon as you look up the definition of the phrase "more deserving". Because words.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I'm sorry to see so much hate for this program.

We are white UMC. My kids attend a very diverse mixed-income high school, one that DCUM sneers at. They have friends who are wealthy and friends who rely on SNAP to get dinner on the table.

DC applied ED to a very selective college, obviously a reach. His friend matched through QB to this same school. DC's application was deferred, friend is committed there. DC's grades are better, has more academic awards and leadership in ECs (but friend has held a part time job consistently since he was old enough to work, which DC hasn't done), and SAT was 200 pts above the friend. But ... the friend is really bright and incredibly hard working. DC's awards and ECs were supported by us parents, while the friend did everything on his own. The friend missed quite a bit of school last year for family reasons, which impacted his grades; DC only missed school when he was really sick with strep throat.

DC will do well wherever he lands. He really hopes the deferral turns into an acceptance, but even if it doesn't, he'll be fine elsewhere. He has lots of targets and safeties that we can afford.

If the friend weren't accepted through QB, he'd graduate high school and turn his part time restaurant job into full time. No college.

None of us are the least bit upset about his friend going to DC's dream school, even if DC doesn't. DC is just happy for his friend.

Legacies, OTOH .... those should be done away with.

Love all of this. Thank you for posting.

Agree thank you for posting - making it so clear what these lower income deal w that umc kids - mine included - never face

Oh please. The QB kids don’t have to deal with the housekeeper, the cook, their overbearing SAHM, or multiple tutors. But most live comfortable, normal lives. Maybe they have to start dinner before a parent gets home or work a part time job. But majority are not slumming it and have a lot of public resources to utilize

Something tells me this isn’t your lived experience. As someone who was a super low income FG kid, there’s so much inequity you’ll never understand. I was fortunate to have access to lots of resources but that didn’t make my life easy and I faced a ton of struggles even when I went to college.

Thankfully I went to UVA and my life changed completely. I am now a senior level exec with a solid income, a homeowner and sending my kid off to college.

It took 1 generation to break out of poverty. My kid has never experienced it and will start life off with advantages others take for granted.

These QB kids are more than deserving of these opportunities.

Yep, I agree. I was not super low income, but low enough to qualify for Pell grants and state grants for low income families, in addition to being first generation to go to college.

I had parents who cared about education and knew it was the way out of blue collar and lower paying jobs. They got me a library card when I was in kindergarten and took me to the library every week. They made it clear to me that school and college were important and that they expected me to work hard in school.

But they knew nothing about applying to colleges, choosing a college or about applying for financial aid. Luckily, my public school had a decent guidance department. My kids have had a completely different middle class life with parents who knew how to help them get ready for college- it is like night and day to how I went about college applications.

You all who grew up with parents who had gone to college have no idea how different life is for kids whose parents haven’t ever been to college.

Questbridge kids at elite boarding schools have better college advising than any working-class kid. So I take it you agree that elite boarding school attendees should not be benefitting from a Questbridge admissions boost, at the expense of poor non-boarding school kids?

But it's not at the expense of poor non-boarding school kids because they also have access to Questbridge

Clearly you don’t know how Questbridge match works. Of course they are taking spots from more deserving students; stop being an apologist.

Yeah, those lucky poors getting all the advantages yet again.

You should read the thread before you comment, since the point was that poor kids from low-performing schools should, in fact, have the advantage — over Questbridge boarding school kids. Seems like this point should be axiomatic. Because logic.

I'll do that, as soon as you look up the definition of the phrase "more deserving". Because words.

Glad you agree boarding school kids should not have the priority. Because logic states that you are unwilling to defend an untenable position.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I'm sorry to see so much hate for this program.

We are white UMC. My kids attend a very diverse mixed-income high school, one that DCUM sneers at. They have friends who are wealthy and friends who rely on SNAP to get dinner on the table.

DC applied ED to a very selective college, obviously a reach. His friend matched through QB to this same school. DC's application was deferred, friend is committed there. DC's grades are better, has more academic awards and leadership in ECs (but friend has held a part time job consistently since he was old enough to work, which DC hasn't done), and SAT was 200 pts above the friend. But ... the friend is really bright and incredibly hard working. DC's awards and ECs were supported by us parents, while the friend did everything on his own. The friend missed quite a bit of school last year for family reasons, which impacted his grades; DC only missed school when he was really sick with strep throat.

DC will do well wherever he lands. He really hopes the deferral turns into an acceptance, but even if it doesn't, he'll be fine elsewhere. He has lots of targets and safeties that we can afford.

If the friend weren't accepted through QB, he'd graduate high school and turn his part time restaurant job into full time. No college.

None of us are the least bit upset about his friend going to DC's dream school, even if DC doesn't. DC is just happy for his friend.

Legacies, OTOH .... those should be done away with.

Love all of this. Thank you for posting.

Agree thank you for posting - making it so clear what these lower income deal w that umc kids - mine included - never face

Oh please. The QB kids don’t have to deal with the housekeeper, the cook, their overbearing SAHM, or multiple tutors. But most live comfortable, normal lives. Maybe they have to start dinner before a parent gets home or work a part time job. But majority are not slumming it and have a lot of public resources to utilize

Something tells me this isn’t your lived experience. As someone who was a super low income FG kid, there’s so much inequity you’ll never understand. I was fortunate to have access to lots of resources but that didn’t make my life easy and I faced a ton of struggles even when I went to college.

Thankfully I went to UVA and my life changed completely. I am now a senior level exec with a solid income, a homeowner and sending my kid off to college.

It took 1 generation to break out of poverty. My kid has never experienced it and will start life off with advantages others take for granted.

These QB kids are more than deserving of these opportunities.

Yep, I agree. I was not super low income, but low enough to qualify for Pell grants and state grants for low income families, in addition to being first generation to go to college.

I had parents who cared about education and knew it was the way out of blue collar and lower paying jobs. They got me a library card when I was in kindergarten and took me to the library every week. They made it clear to me that school and college were important and that they expected me to work hard in school.

But they knew nothing about applying to colleges, choosing a college or about applying for financial aid. Luckily, my public school had a decent guidance department. My kids have had a completely different middle class life with parents who knew how to help them get ready for college- it is like night and day to how I went about college applications.

You all who grew up with parents who had gone to college have no idea how different life is for kids whose parents haven’t ever been to college.

Questbridge kids at elite boarding schools have better college advising than any working-class kid. So I take it you agree that elite boarding school attendees should not be benefitting from a Questbridge admissions boost, at the expense of poor non-boarding school kids?

But it's not at the expense of poor non-boarding school kids because they also have access to Questbridge

Clearly you don’t know how Questbridge match works. Of course they are taking spots from more deserving students; stop being an apologist.

Yeah, those lucky poors getting all the advantages yet again.

You should read the thread before you comment, since the point was that poor kids from low-performing schools should, in fact, have the advantage — over Questbridge boarding school kids. Seems like this point should be axiomatic. Because logic.

I'll do that, as soon as you look up the definition of the phrase "more deserving". Because words.

Glad you agree boarding school kids should not have the priority. Because logic states that you are unwilling to defend an untenable position.

What the hell are you talking about?

I objected that Questbridge kids are "less deserving". (And yeah I have known some. My kid's ivy classmates.)

How is that "an untenable position"?

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I'm sorry to see so much hate for this program.

We are white UMC. My kids attend a very diverse mixed-income high school, one that DCUM sneers at. They have friends who are wealthy and friends who rely on SNAP to get dinner on the table.

DC applied ED to a very selective college, obviously a reach. His friend matched through QB to this same school. DC's application was deferred, friend is committed there. DC's grades are better, has more academic awards and leadership in ECs (but friend has held a part time job consistently since he was old enough to work, which DC hasn't done), and SAT was 200 pts above the friend. But ... the friend is really bright and incredibly hard working. DC's awards and ECs were supported by us parents, while the friend did everything on his own. The friend missed quite a bit of school last year for family reasons, which impacted his grades; DC only missed school when he was really sick with strep throat.

DC will do well wherever he lands. He really hopes the deferral turns into an acceptance, but even if it doesn't, he'll be fine elsewhere. He has lots of targets and safeties that we can afford.

If the friend weren't accepted through QB, he'd graduate high school and turn his part time restaurant job into full time. No college.

None of us are the least bit upset about his friend going to DC's dream school, even if DC doesn't. DC is just happy for his friend.

Legacies, OTOH .... those should be done away with.

Love all of this. Thank you for posting.

Agree thank you for posting - making it so clear what these lower income deal w that umc kids - mine included - never face

Oh please. The QB kids don’t have to deal with the housekeeper, the cook, their overbearing SAHM, or multiple tutors. But most live comfortable, normal lives. Maybe they have to start dinner before a parent gets home or work a part time job. But majority are not slumming it and have a lot of public resources to utilize

Something tells me this isn’t your lived experience. As someone who was a super low income FG kid, there’s so much inequity you’ll never understand. I was fortunate to have access to lots of resources but that didn’t make my life easy and I faced a ton of struggles even when I went to college.

Thankfully I went to UVA and my life changed completely. I am now a senior level exec with a solid income, a homeowner and sending my kid off to college.

It took 1 generation to break out of poverty. My kid has never experienced it and will start life off with advantages others take for granted.

These QB kids are more than deserving of these opportunities.

Yep, I agree. I was not super low income, but low enough to qualify for Pell grants and state grants for low income families, in addition to being first generation to go to college.

I had parents who cared about education and knew it was the way out of blue collar and lower paying jobs. They got me a library card when I was in kindergarten and took me to the library every week. They made it clear to me that school and college were important and that they expected me to work hard in school.

But they knew nothing about applying to colleges, choosing a college or about applying for financial aid. Luckily, my public school had a decent guidance department. My kids have had a completely different middle class life with parents who knew how to help them get ready for college- it is like night and day to how I went about college applications.

You all who grew up with parents who had gone to college have no idea how different life is for kids whose parents haven’t ever been to college.

Questbridge kids at elite boarding schools have better college advising than any working-class kid. So I take it you agree that elite boarding school attendees should not be benefitting from a Questbridge admissions boost, at the expense of poor non-boarding school kids?

But it's not at the expense of poor non-boarding school kids because they also have access to Questbridge

Clearly you don’t know how Questbridge match works. Of course they are taking spots from more deserving students; stop being an apologist.

Yeah, those lucky poors getting all the advantages yet again.

You should read the thread before you comment, since the point was that poor kids from low-performing schools should, in fact, have the advantage — over Questbridge boarding school kids. Seems like this point should be axiomatic. Because logic.

I'll do that, as soon as you look up the definition of the phrase "more deserving". Because words.

Glad you agree boarding school kids should not have the priority. Because logic states that you are unwilling to defend an untenable position.

What the hell are you talking about?

I objected that Questbridge kids are "less deserving". (And yeah I have known some. My kid's ivy classmates.)

How is that "an untenable position"?

Reading comprehension is your friend. But I am not.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I'm sorry to see so much hate for this program.

We are white UMC. My kids attend a very diverse mixed-income high school, one that DCUM sneers at. They have friends who are wealthy and friends who rely on SNAP to get dinner on the table.

DC applied ED to a very selective college, obviously a reach. His friend matched through QB to this same school. DC's application was deferred, friend is committed there. DC's grades are better, has more academic awards and leadership in ECs (but friend has held a part time job consistently since he was old enough to work, which DC hasn't done), and SAT was 200 pts above the friend. But ... the friend is really bright and incredibly hard working. DC's awards and ECs were supported by us parents, while the friend did everything on his own. The friend missed quite a bit of school last year for family reasons, which impacted his grades; DC only missed school when he was really sick with strep throat.

DC will do well wherever he lands. He really hopes the deferral turns into an acceptance, but even if it doesn't, he'll be fine elsewhere. He has lots of targets and safeties that we can afford.

If the friend weren't accepted through QB, he'd graduate high school and turn his part time restaurant job into full time. No college.

None of us are the least bit upset about his friend going to DC's dream school, even if DC doesn't. DC is just happy for his friend.

Legacies, OTOH .... those should be done away with.

Love all of this. Thank you for posting.

Agree thank you for posting - making it so clear what these lower income deal w that umc kids - mine included - never face

Oh please. The QB kids don’t have to deal with the housekeeper, the cook, their overbearing SAHM, or multiple tutors. But most live comfortable, normal lives. Maybe they have to start dinner before a parent gets home or work a part time job. But majority are not slumming it and have a lot of public resources to utilize

Something tells me this isn’t your lived experience. As someone who was a super low income FG kid, there’s so much inequity you’ll never understand. I was fortunate to have access to lots of resources but that didn’t make my life easy and I faced a ton of struggles even when I went to college.

Thankfully I went to UVA and my life changed completely. I am now a senior level exec with a solid income, a homeowner and sending my kid off to college.

It took 1 generation to break out of poverty. My kid has never experienced it and will start life off with advantages others take for granted.

These QB kids are more than deserving of these opportunities.

Yep, I agree. I was not super low income, but low enough to qualify for Pell grants and state grants for low income families, in addition to being first generation to go to college.

I had parents who cared about education and knew it was the way out of blue collar and lower paying jobs. They got me a library card when I was in kindergarten and took me to the library every week. They made it clear to me that school and college were important and that they expected me to work hard in school.

But they knew nothing about applying to colleges, choosing a college or about applying for financial aid. Luckily, my public school had a decent guidance department. My kids have had a completely different middle class life with parents who knew how to help them get ready for college- it is like night and day to how I went about college applications.

You all who grew up with parents who had gone to college have no idea how different life is for kids whose parents haven’t ever been to college.

Questbridge kids at elite boarding schools have better college advising than any working-class kid. So I take it you agree that elite boarding school attendees should not be benefitting from a Questbridge admissions boost, at the expense of poor non-boarding school kids?

But it's not at the expense of poor non-boarding school kids because they also have access to Questbridge

Clearly you don’t know how Questbridge match works. Of course they are taking spots from more deserving students; stop being an apologist.

Yeah, those lucky poors getting all the advantages yet again.

If poors can make it out of their rung, good for them.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I'm sorry to see so much hate for this program.

We are white UMC. My kids attend a very diverse mixed-income high school, one that DCUM sneers at. They have friends who are wealthy and friends who rely on SNAP to get dinner on the table.

DC applied ED to a very selective college, obviously a reach. His friend matched through QB to this same school. DC's application was deferred, friend is committed there. DC's grades are better, has more academic awards and leadership in ECs (but friend has held a part time job consistently since he was old enough to work, which DC hasn't done), and SAT was 200 pts above the friend. But ... the friend is really bright and incredibly hard working. DC's awards and ECs were supported by us parents, while the friend did everything on his own. The friend missed quite a bit of school last year for family reasons, which impacted his grades; DC only missed school when he was really sick with strep throat.

DC will do well wherever he lands. He really hopes the deferral turns into an acceptance, but even if it doesn't, he'll be fine elsewhere. He has lots of targets and safeties that we can afford.

If the friend weren't accepted through QB, he'd graduate high school and turn his part time restaurant job into full time. No college.

None of us are the least bit upset about his friend going to DC's dream school, even if DC doesn't. DC is just happy for his friend.

Legacies, OTOH .... those should be done away with.

Love all of this. Thank you for posting.

Agree thank you for posting - making it so clear what these lower income deal w that umc kids - mine included - never face

Oh please. The QB kids don’t have to deal with the housekeeper, the cook, their overbearing SAHM, or multiple tutors. But most live comfortable, normal lives. Maybe they have to start dinner before a parent gets home or work a part time job. But majority are not slumming it and have a lot of public resources to utilize

Something tells me this isn’t your lived experience. As someone who was a super low income FG kid, there’s so much inequity you’ll never understand. I was fortunate to have access to lots of resources but that didn’t make my life easy and I faced a ton of struggles even when I went to college.

Thankfully I went to UVA and my life changed completely. I am now a senior level exec with a solid income, a homeowner and sending my kid off to college.

It took 1 generation to break out of poverty. My kid has never experienced it and will start life off with advantages others take for granted.

These QB kids are more than deserving of these opportunities.

Yep, I agree. I was not super low income, but low enough to qualify for Pell grants and state grants for low income families, in addition to being first generation to go to college.

I had parents who cared about education and knew it was the way out of blue collar and lower paying jobs. They got me a library card when I was in kindergarten and took me to the library every week. They made it clear to me that school and college were important and that they expected me to work hard in school.

But they knew nothing about applying to colleges, choosing a college or about applying for financial aid. Luckily, my public school had a decent guidance department. My kids have had a completely different middle class life with parents who knew how to help them get ready for college- it is like night and day to how I went about college applications.

You all who grew up with parents who had gone to college have no idea how different life is for kids whose parents haven’t ever been to college.

Questbridge kids at elite boarding schools have better college advising than any working-class kid. So I take it you agree that elite boarding school attendees should not be benefitting from a Questbridge admissions boost, at the expense of poor non-boarding school kids?

But it's not at the expense of poor non-boarding school kids because they also have access to Questbridge

Every time a Questbridge boarding school kid, a Questbridge private school kid, or a Questbridge kid from a “good” public high school matches ahead of a Questbridge kid from a low-performing public high school (a much more common occurrence than anyone here, with their ideological goggles, can acknowledge), they are taking a spot away from a “more deserving” kid. To the extent that a significant proportion of Questbridge matches at the most sought after schools do not come from low-performing public high schools, Questbridge should probably be done away with altogether.

Why? Schools have all the information they need to identify low-performing public high schools, and the algorithms already in place to identify top achievers in those schools. So accept them…

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I'm sorry to see so much hate for this program.

We are white UMC. My kids attend a very diverse mixed-income high school, one that DCUM sneers at. They have friends who are wealthy and friends who rely on SNAP to get dinner on the table.

DC applied ED to a very selective college, obviously a reach. His friend matched through QB to this same school. DC's application was deferred, friend is committed there. DC's grades are better, has more academic awards and leadership in ECs (but friend has held a part time job consistently since he was old enough to work, which DC hasn't done), and SAT was 200 pts above the friend. But ... the friend is really bright and incredibly hard working. DC's awards and ECs were supported by us parents, while the friend did everything on his own. The friend missed quite a bit of school last year for family reasons, which impacted his grades; DC only missed school when he was really sick with strep throat.

DC will do well wherever he lands. He really hopes the deferral turns into an acceptance, but even if it doesn't, he'll be fine elsewhere. He has lots of targets and safeties that we can afford.

If the friend weren't accepted through QB, he'd graduate high school and turn his part time restaurant job into full time. No college.

None of us are the least bit upset about his friend going to DC's dream school, even if DC doesn't. DC is just happy for his friend.

Legacies, OTOH .... those should be done away with.

Love all of this. Thank you for posting.

Agree thank you for posting - making it so clear what these lower income deal w that umc kids - mine included - never face

Oh please. The QB kids don’t have to deal with the housekeeper, the cook, their overbearing SAHM, or multiple tutors. But most live comfortable, normal lives. Maybe they have to start dinner before a parent gets home or work a part time job. But majority are not slumming it and have a lot of public resources to utilize

Something tells me this isn’t your lived experience. As someone who was a super low income FG kid, there’s so much inequity you’ll never understand. I was fortunate to have access to lots of resources but that didn’t make my life easy and I faced a ton of struggles even when I went to college.

Thankfully I went to UVA and my life changed completely. I am now a senior level exec with a solid income, a homeowner and sending my kid off to college.

It took 1 generation to break out of poverty. My kid has never experienced it and will start life off with advantages others take for granted.

These QB kids are more than deserving of these opportunities.

Yep, I agree. I was not super low income, but low enough to qualify for Pell grants and state grants for low income families, in addition to being first generation to go to college.

I had parents who cared about education and knew it was the way out of blue collar and lower paying jobs. They got me a library card when I was in kindergarten and took me to the library every week. They made it clear to me that school and college were important and that they expected me to work hard in school.

But they knew nothing about applying to colleges, choosing a college or about applying for financial aid. Luckily, my public school had a decent guidance department. My kids have had a completely different middle class life with parents who knew how to help them get ready for college- it is like night and day to how I went about college applications.

You all who grew up with parents who had gone to college have no idea how different life is for kids whose parents haven’t ever been to college.

Questbridge kids at elite boarding schools have better college advising than any working-class kid. So I take it you agree that elite boarding school attendees should not be benefitting from a Questbridge admissions boost, at the expense of poor non-boarding school kids?

But it's not at the expense of poor non-boarding school kids because they also have access to Questbridge

Clearly you don’t know how Questbridge match works. Of course they are taking spots from more deserving students; stop being an apologist.

Yeah, those lucky poors getting all the advantages yet again.

You should read the thread before you comment, since the point was that poor kids from low-performing schools should, in fact, have the advantage — over Questbridge boarding school kids. Seems like this point should be axiomatic. Because logic.

I'll do that, as soon as you look up the definition of the phrase "more deserving". Because words.

Glad you agree boarding school kids should not have the priority. Because logic states that you are unwilling to defend an untenable position.

What the hell are you talking about?

I objected that Questbridge kids are "less deserving". (And yeah I have known some. My kid's ivy classmates.)

How is that "an untenable position"?

Reading comprehension is your friend. But I am not.

No, you are a douche who doesn't fathom the irony displayed in your postings, but still has a sneaking suspicion you farted out loud so are trying to cover up for it with petulance.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I'm sorry to see so much hate for this program.

We are white UMC. My kids attend a very diverse mixed-income high school, one that DCUM sneers at. They have friends who are wealthy and friends who rely on SNAP to get dinner on the table.

DC applied ED to a very selective college, obviously a reach. His friend matched through QB to this same school. DC's application was deferred, friend is committed there. DC's grades are better, has more academic awards and leadership in ECs (but friend has held a part time job consistently since he was old enough to work, which DC hasn't done), and SAT was 200 pts above the friend. But ... the friend is really bright and incredibly hard working. DC's awards and ECs were supported by us parents, while the friend did everything on his own. The friend missed quite a bit of school last year for family reasons, which impacted his grades; DC only missed school when he was really sick with strep throat.

DC will do well wherever he lands. He really hopes the deferral turns into an acceptance, but even if it doesn't, he'll be fine elsewhere. He has lots of targets and safeties that we can afford.

If the friend weren't accepted through QB, he'd graduate high school and turn his part time restaurant job into full time. No college.

None of us are the least bit upset about his friend going to DC's dream school, even if DC doesn't. DC is just happy for his friend.

Legacies, OTOH .... those should be done away with.

Love all of this. Thank you for posting.

Agree thank you for posting - making it so clear what these lower income deal w that umc kids - mine included - never face

Oh please. The QB kids don’t have to deal with the housekeeper, the cook, their overbearing SAHM, or multiple tutors. But most live comfortable, normal lives. Maybe they have to start dinner before a parent gets home or work a part time job. But majority are not slumming it and have a lot of public resources to utilize

Something tells me this isn’t your lived experience. As someone who was a super low income FG kid, there’s so much inequity you’ll never understand. I was fortunate to have access to lots of resources but that didn’t make my life easy and I faced a ton of struggles even when I went to college.

Thankfully I went to UVA and my life changed completely. I am now a senior level exec with a solid income, a homeowner and sending my kid off to college.

It took 1 generation to break out of poverty. My kid has never experienced it and will start life off with advantages others take for granted.

These QB kids are more than deserving of these opportunities.

Yep, I agree. I was not super low income, but low enough to qualify for Pell grants and state grants for low income families, in addition to being first generation to go to college.

I had parents who cared about education and knew it was the way out of blue collar and lower paying jobs. They got me a library card when I was in kindergarten and took me to the library every week. They made it clear to me that school and college were important and that they expected me to work hard in school.

But they knew nothing about applying to colleges, choosing a college or about applying for financial aid. Luckily, my public school had a decent guidance department. My kids have had a completely different middle class life with parents who knew how to help them get ready for college- it is like night and day to how I went about college applications.

You all who grew up with parents who had gone to college have no idea how different life is for kids whose parents haven’t ever been to college.

Questbridge kids at elite boarding schools have better college advising than any working-class kid. So I take it you agree that elite boarding school attendees should not be benefitting from a Questbridge admissions boost, at the expense of poor non-boarding school kids?

But it's not at the expense of poor non-boarding school kids because they also have access to Questbridge

Every time a Questbridge boarding school kid, a Questbridge private school kid, or a Questbridge kid from a “good” public high school matches ahead of a Questbridge kid from a low-performing public high school (a much more common occurrence than anyone here, with their ideological goggles, can acknowledge), they are taking a spot away from a “more deserving” kid. To the extent that a significant proportion of Questbridge matches at the most sought after schools do not come from low-performing public high schools, Questbridge should probably be done away with altogether.

Why? Schools have all the information they need to identify low-performing public high schools, and the algorithms already in place to identify top achievers in those schools. So accept them…

I don’t understand why you think poor kids at good schools don’t deserve their spot. You have to work to get a good scholarship to a. Private school. You have to work to get into a good magnet school. It’s not like they’re given an unfair advantage for elite high school admissions.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I'm sorry to see so much hate for this program.

We are white UMC. My kids attend a very diverse mixed-income high school, one that DCUM sneers at. They have friends who are wealthy and friends who rely on SNAP to get dinner on the table.

DC applied ED to a very selective college, obviously a reach. His friend matched through QB to this same school. DC's application was deferred, friend is committed there. DC's grades are better, has more academic awards and leadership in ECs (but friend has held a part time job consistently since he was old enough to work, which DC hasn't done), and SAT was 200 pts above the friend. But ... the friend is really bright and incredibly hard working. DC's awards and ECs were supported by us parents, while the friend did everything on his own. The friend missed quite a bit of school last year for family reasons, which impacted his grades; DC only missed school when he was really sick with strep throat.

DC will do well wherever he lands. He really hopes the deferral turns into an acceptance, but even if it doesn't, he'll be fine elsewhere. He has lots of targets and safeties that we can afford.

If the friend weren't accepted through QB, he'd graduate high school and turn his part time restaurant job into full time. No college.

None of us are the least bit upset about his friend going to DC's dream school, even if DC doesn't. DC is just happy for his friend.

Legacies, OTOH .... those should be done away with.

Love all of this. Thank you for posting.

Agree thank you for posting - making it so clear what these lower income deal w that umc kids - mine included - never face

Oh please. The QB kids don’t have to deal with the housekeeper, the cook, their overbearing SAHM, or multiple tutors. But most live comfortable, normal lives. Maybe they have to start dinner before a parent gets home or work a part time job. But majority are not slumming it and have a lot of public resources to utilize

Something tells me this isn’t your lived experience. As someone who was a super low income FG kid, there’s so much inequity you’ll never understand. I was fortunate to have access to lots of resources but that didn’t make my life easy and I faced a ton of struggles even when I went to college.

Thankfully I went to UVA and my life changed completely. I am now a senior level exec with a solid income, a homeowner and sending my kid off to college.

It took 1 generation to break out of poverty. My kid has never experienced it and will start life off with advantages others take for granted.

These QB kids are more than deserving of these opportunities.

Yep, I agree. I was not super low income, but low enough to qualify for Pell grants and state grants for low income families, in addition to being first generation to go to college.

I had parents who cared about education and knew it was the way out of blue collar and lower paying jobs. They got me a library card when I was in kindergarten and took me to the library every week. They made it clear to me that school and college were important and that they expected me to work hard in school.

But they knew nothing about applying to colleges, choosing a college or about applying for financial aid. Luckily, my public school had a decent guidance department. My kids have had a completely different middle class life with parents who knew how to help them get ready for college- it is like night and day to how I went about college applications.

You all who grew up with parents who had gone to college have no idea how different life is for kids whose parents haven’t ever been to college.

Questbridge kids at elite boarding schools have better college advising than any working-class kid. So I take it you agree that elite boarding school attendees should not be benefitting from a Questbridge admissions boost, at the expense of poor non-boarding school kids?

But it's not at the expense of poor non-boarding school kids because they also have access to Questbridge

Every time a Questbridge boarding school kid, a Questbridge private school kid, or a Questbridge kid from a “good” public high school matches ahead of a Questbridge kid from a low-performing public high school (a much more common occurrence than anyone here, with their ideological goggles, can acknowledge), they are taking a spot away from a “more deserving” kid. To the extent that a significant proportion of Questbridge matches at the most sought after schools do not come from low-performing public high schools, Questbridge should probably be done away with altogether.

Why? Schools have all the information they need to identify low-performing public high schools, and the algorithms already in place to identify top achievers in those schools. So accept them…

I don’t understand why you think poor kids at good schools don’t deserve their spot. You have to work to get a good scholarship to a. Private school. You have to work to get into a good magnet school. It’s not like they’re given an unfair advantage for elite high school admissions.

Zero sum game.