QuestBridge kids taking half the spots at top schools, and it’s unfair

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Duke is among the schools that takes the most students via Questbridge. This year they took 113 through QB, out of 849 ED students. They'll probably accept about 2800 students total, based on last year's numbers. So that's 4% of acceptances. OP, your kid could be one of the remaining 96%, if qualified.


https://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2024/12/duke-university-early-decision-class-of-2029-12-8-percent-acceptance-rate-increased-applications-admitted-north-carolina-questbridge#:~:text=Of%20those%20accepted%20in%20this,program%20acceptance%20rate%20to%203.7%25.

surprise. OP is an idiot thinking QB takes 50%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Duke is among the schools that takes the most students via Questbridge. This year they took 113 through QB, out of 849 ED students. They'll probably accept about 2800 students total, based on last year's numbers. So that's 4% of acceptances. OP, your kid could be one of the remaining 96%, if qualified.


https://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2024/12/duke-university-early-decision-class-of-2029-12-8-percent-acceptance-rate-increased-applications-admitted-north-carolina-questbridge#:~:text=Of%20those%20accepted%20in%20this,program%20acceptance%20rate%20to%203.7%25.

surprise. OP is an idiot thinking QB takes 50%

+1. A simple google would have told OP that only 2400 QB students were placed nationwide in 2023-24.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since the Supreme Court ruling on admissions, now universities are looking at low to moderate income high achievers from QuestBridge to fill diversity slots. But what about minority kids who are high income? And everyone else? Are we all getting the shaft? My daughter is getting rejection after rejection even though she has high SAT scores and GPA. And I’m sure they chose a low income minority to fill that slot over us. The whole admissions game completely sucks. I’m tired of all these overkill programs leaning toward lower or moderate income. It needs to be a fair shot for all.

That's life. Sometimes it's not fair. Move on.

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Anonymous wrote:The vitriol against Questbridge students is interesting. They are by and large exceptionally good students who grew up in challenging circumstances. And this is where the upper class moms are throwing their rage and resentment?

But not the middling "athletes" who are taking 40 percent of all spots at Williams and Amherst? Or the 25 percent of "athletes" at Dartmouth.

These are mediocre "athletes" who do not have what it takes to compete at a serious D1 school. And yet they are afforded all sorts of privileges at Ivy and D3 schools.

But the well to do moms are going to blame the poors for why little timmy didn't get into a good school.

Very suburban DC.

People here will defend athlete admissions by posting the stats of their “elite-level” child whose SAT is slightly above their lac’s 25th percentile. I’ve given up on combatting it, because they don’t see the issue with a two tier admission system where the bottom of the class can all be athletes from very similar backgrounds.

That’s what makes your academic student get school honors and LORs from professors. Would you want to be at the bottom of your class and struggling if you were at the school for academic goals? No.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I'm sorry to see so much hate for this program.

We are white UMC. My kids attend a very diverse mixed-income high school, one that DCUM sneers at. They have friends who are wealthy and friends who rely on SNAP to get dinner on the table.

DC applied ED to a very selective college, obviously a reach. His friend matched through QB to this same school. DC's application was deferred, friend is committed there. DC's grades are better, has more academic awards and leadership in ECs (but friend has held a part time job consistently since he was old enough to work, which DC hasn't done), and SAT was 200 pts above the friend. But ... the friend is really bright and incredibly hard working. DC's awards and ECs were supported by us parents, while the friend did everything on his own. The friend missed quite a bit of school last year for family reasons, which impacted his grades; DC only missed school when he was really sick with strep throat.

DC will do well wherever he lands. He really hopes the deferral turns into an acceptance, but even if it doesn't, he'll be fine elsewhere. He has lots of targets and safeties that we can afford.

If the friend weren't accepted through QB, he'd graduate high school and turn his part time restaurant job into full time. No college.

None of us are the least bit upset about his friend going to DC's dream school, even if DC doesn't. DC is just happy for his friend.

Legacies, OTOH .... those should be done away with.

Love all of this. Thank you for posting.

Agree thank you for posting - making it so clear what these lower income deal w that umc kids - mine included - never face

Oh please. The QB kids don’t have to deal with the housekeeper, the cook, their overbearing SAHM, or multiple tutors. But most live comfortable, normal lives. Maybe they have to start dinner before a parent gets home or work a part time job. But majority are not slumming it and have a lot of public resources to utilize

Something tells me this isn’t your lived experience. As someone who was a super low income FG kid, there’s so much inequity you’ll never understand. I was fortunate to have access to lots of resources but that didn’t make my life easy and I faced a ton of struggles even when I went to college.

Thankfully I went to UVA and my life changed completely. I am now a senior level exec with a solid income, a homeowner and sending my kid off to college.

It took 1 generation to break out of poverty. My kid has never experienced it and will start life off with advantages others take for granted.

These QB kids are more than deserving of these opportunities.

Yep, I agree. I was not super low income, but low enough to qualify for Pell grants and state grants for low income families, in addition to being first generation to go to college.

I had parents who cared about education and knew it was the way out of blue collar and lower paying jobs. They got me a library card when I was in kindergarten and took me to the library every week. They made it clear to me that school and college were important and that they expected me to work hard in school.

But they knew nothing about applying to colleges, choosing a college or about applying for financial aid. Luckily, my public school had a decent guidance department. My kids have had a completely different middle class life with parents who knew how to help them get ready for college- it is like night and day to how I went about college applications.

You all who grew up with parents who had gone to college have no idea how different life is for kids whose parents haven’t ever been to college.

Questbridge kids at elite boarding schools have better college advising than any working-class kid. So I take it you agree that elite boarding school attendees should not be benefitting from a Questbridge admissions boost, at the expense of poor non-boarding school kids?

But it's not at the expense of poor non-boarding school kids because they also have access to Questbridge

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I'm sorry to see so much hate for this program.

We are white UMC. My kids attend a very diverse mixed-income high school, one that DCUM sneers at. They have friends who are wealthy and friends who rely on SNAP to get dinner on the table.

DC applied ED to a very selective college, obviously a reach. His friend matched through QB to this same school. DC's application was deferred, friend is committed there. DC's grades are better, has more academic awards and leadership in ECs (but friend has held a part time job consistently since he was old enough to work, which DC hasn't done), and SAT was 200 pts above the friend. But ... the friend is really bright and incredibly hard working. DC's awards and ECs were supported by us parents, while the friend did everything on his own. The friend missed quite a bit of school last year for family reasons, which impacted his grades; DC only missed school when he was really sick with strep throat.

DC will do well wherever he lands. He really hopes the deferral turns into an acceptance, but even if it doesn't, he'll be fine elsewhere. He has lots of targets and safeties that we can afford.

If the friend weren't accepted through QB, he'd graduate high school and turn his part time restaurant job into full time. No college.

None of us are the least bit upset about his friend going to DC's dream school, even if DC doesn't. DC is just happy for his friend.

Legacies, OTOH .... those should be done away with.

Love all of this. Thank you for posting.

Agree thank you for posting - making it so clear what these lower income deal w that umc kids - mine included - never face

Oh please. The QB kids don’t have to deal with the housekeeper, the cook, their overbearing SAHM, or multiple tutors. But most live comfortable, normal lives. Maybe they have to start dinner before a parent gets home or work a part time job. But majority are not slumming it and have a lot of public resources to utilize

Something tells me this isn’t your lived experience. As someone who was a super low income FG kid, there’s so much inequity you’ll never understand. I was fortunate to have access to lots of resources but that didn’t make my life easy and I faced a ton of struggles even when I went to college.

Thankfully I went to UVA and my life changed completely. I am now a senior level exec with a solid income, a homeowner and sending my kid off to college.

It took 1 generation to break out of poverty. My kid has never experienced it and will start life off with advantages others take for granted.

These QB kids are more than deserving of these opportunities.

Yep, I agree. I was not super low income, but low enough to qualify for Pell grants and state grants for low income families, in addition to being first generation to go to college.

I had parents who cared about education and knew it was the way out of blue collar and lower paying jobs. They got me a library card when I was in kindergarten and took me to the library every week. They made it clear to me that school and college were important and that they expected me to work hard in school.

But they knew nothing about applying to colleges, choosing a college or about applying for financial aid. Luckily, my public school had a decent guidance department. My kids have had a completely different middle class life with parents who knew how to help them get ready for college- it is like night and day to how I went about college applications.

You all who grew up with parents who had gone to college have no idea how different life is for kids whose parents haven’t ever been to college.

I think DCUM is too quick to dismiss “blue collar” jobs as being poor. In actuality, certain trades can earn way more than a typical office worker with an expensive but relatively generic degree. On Reddit, you should check out the r/salary community. Journeyman lineman for electic company making 400k and one of the posts is from a family medicine doctor who after 12 years of school and training making in the low 200s asking how they too can make the career switch into the electrician union. don’t assume.

[Anonymous]

The title of this post makes me so nauseous I think I’ll take a break from dcum until it moves down in the queue. This is not many kids and nothing compared to the mediocre athletes who slide through or the kids with board connections. And what they have do to succeed

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I'm sorry to see so much hate for this program.

We are white UMC. My kids attend a very diverse mixed-income high school, one that DCUM sneers at. They have friends who are wealthy and friends who rely on SNAP to get dinner on the table.

DC applied ED to a very selective college, obviously a reach. His friend matched through QB to this same school. DC's application was deferred, friend is committed there. DC's grades are better, has more academic awards and leadership in ECs (but friend has held a part time job consistently since he was old enough to work, which DC hasn't done), and SAT was 200 pts above the friend. But ... the friend is really bright and incredibly hard working. DC's awards and ECs were supported by us parents, while the friend did everything on his own. The friend missed quite a bit of school last year for family reasons, which impacted his grades; DC only missed school when he was really sick with strep throat.

DC will do well wherever he lands. He really hopes the deferral turns into an acceptance, but even if it doesn't, he'll be fine elsewhere. He has lots of targets and safeties that we can afford.

If the friend weren't accepted through QB, he'd graduate high school and turn his part time restaurant job into full time. No college.

None of us are the least bit upset about his friend going to DC's dream school, even if DC doesn't. DC is just happy for his friend.

Legacies, OTOH .... those should be done away with.

Love all of this. Thank you for posting.

Agree thank you for posting - making it so clear what these lower income deal w that umc kids - mine included - never face

Oh please. The QB kids don’t have to deal with the housekeeper, the cook, their overbearing SAHM, or multiple tutors. But most live comfortable, normal lives. Maybe they have to start dinner before a parent gets home or work a part time job. But majority are not slumming it and have a lot of public resources to utilize

Something tells me this isn’t your lived experience. As someone who was a super low income FG kid, there’s so much inequity you’ll never understand. I was fortunate to have access to lots of resources but that didn’t make my life easy and I faced a ton of struggles even when I went to college.

Thankfully I went to UVA and my life changed completely. I am now a senior level exec with a solid income, a homeowner and sending my kid off to college.

It took 1 generation to break out of poverty. My kid has never experienced it and will start life off with advantages others take for granted.

These QB kids are more than deserving of these opportunities.

Yep, I agree. I was not super low income, but low enough to qualify for Pell grants and state grants for low income families, in addition to being first generation to go to college.

I had parents who cared about education and knew it was the way out of blue collar and lower paying jobs. They got me a library card when I was in kindergarten and took me to the library every week. They made it clear to me that school and college were important and that they expected me to work hard in school.

But they knew nothing about applying to colleges, choosing a college or about applying for financial aid. Luckily, my public school had a decent guidance department. My kids have had a completely different middle class life with parents who knew how to help them get ready for college- it is like night and day to how I went about college applications.

You all who grew up with parents who had gone to college have no idea how different life is for kids whose parents haven’t ever been to college.

Questbridge kids at elite boarding schools have better college advising than any working-class kid. So I take it you agree that elite boarding school attendees should not be benefitting from a Questbridge admissions boost, at the expense of poor non-boarding school kids?

But it's not at the expense of poor non-boarding school kids because they also have access to Questbridge

Clearly you don’t know how Questbridge match works. Of course they are taking spots from more deserving students; stop being an apologist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I'm sorry to see so much hate for this program.

We are white UMC. My kids attend a very diverse mixed-income high school, one that DCUM sneers at. They have friends who are wealthy and friends who rely on SNAP to get dinner on the table.

DC applied ED to a very selective college, obviously a reach. His friend matched through QB to this same school. DC's application was deferred, friend is committed there. DC's grades are better, has more academic awards and leadership in ECs (but friend has held a part time job consistently since he was old enough to work, which DC hasn't done), and SAT was 200 pts above the friend. But ... the friend is really bright and incredibly hard working. DC's awards and ECs were supported by us parents, while the friend did everything on his own. The friend missed quite a bit of school last year for family reasons, which impacted his grades; DC only missed school when he was really sick with strep throat.

DC will do well wherever he lands. He really hopes the deferral turns into an acceptance, but even if it doesn't, he'll be fine elsewhere. He has lots of targets and safeties that we can afford.

If the friend weren't accepted through QB, he'd graduate high school and turn his part time restaurant job into full time. No college.

None of us are the least bit upset about his friend going to DC's dream school, even if DC doesn't. DC is just happy for his friend.

Legacies, OTOH .... those should be done away with.

Love all of this. Thank you for posting.

Agree thank you for posting - making it so clear what these lower income deal w that umc kids - mine included - never face

Oh please. The QB kids don’t have to deal with the housekeeper, the cook, their overbearing SAHM, or multiple tutors. But most live comfortable, normal lives. Maybe they have to start dinner before a parent gets home or work a part time job. But majority are not slumming it and have a lot of public resources to utilize

Something tells me this isn’t your lived experience. As someone who was a super low income FG kid, there’s so much inequity you’ll never understand. I was fortunate to have access to lots of resources but that didn’t make my life easy and I faced a ton of struggles even when I went to college.

Thankfully I went to UVA and my life changed completely. I am now a senior level exec with a solid income, a homeowner and sending my kid off to college.

It took 1 generation to break out of poverty. My kid has never experienced it and will start life off with advantages others take for granted.

These QB kids are more than deserving of these opportunities.

Yep, I agree. I was not super low income, but low enough to qualify for Pell grants and state grants for low income families, in addition to being first generation to go to college.

I had parents who cared about education and knew it was the way out of blue collar and lower paying jobs. They got me a library card when I was in kindergarten and took me to the library every week. They made it clear to me that school and college were important and that they expected me to work hard in school.

But they knew nothing about applying to colleges, choosing a college or about applying for financial aid. Luckily, my public school had a decent guidance department. My kids have had a completely different middle class life with parents who knew how to help them get ready for college- it is like night and day to how I went about college applications.

You all who grew up with parents who had gone to college have no idea how different life is for kids whose parents haven’t ever been to college.

I think DCUM is too quick to dismiss “blue collar” jobs as being poor. In actuality, certain trades can earn way more than a typical office worker with an expensive but relatively generic degree. On Reddit, you should check out the r/salary community. Journeyman lineman for electic company making 400k and one of the posts is from a family medicine doctor who after 12 years of school and training making in the low 200s asking how they too can make the career switch into the electrician union. don’t assume.

PP here. I hesitated before writing “blue collar” for this reason, and that is why I wrote “and lower paying jobs.” Yes, a blue collar worker can earn a lot of money, but my parents wanted their kids to have the kind of career choices that were available through earning a college degree. They realized that everything is not always about money and that people with college educations sometimes treated them differently because of their own lack of opportunity to go to college.

The bigger point here is that, if parents went to college, their kids have many advantages that kids whose parents never went to college just don’t have. A good guidance counselor can help in the application process, but can never completely make up for those disadvantages.

If you were raised by parents who went to college, it’s hard to understand how different it is for kids who are first generation. I see this in my own kids. I can talk to them about what was different about my life growing up, but they can’t truly understand it.

[Anonymous]

Kids who truly qualify for QuestBridge deserve to have this opportunity 100%. The problem I have is with the kids who go to expensive boarding schools and use expensive private college counselors to be matched by QuestBridge. And those college counselors use them as examples to market to more un-deserving kids with resources. A lot of true QuestBridge kids don't even know how to take advantage of this program. They need to do a much better job of checking the qualifications of QuestBridge applicants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kids who truly qualify for QuestBridge deserve to have this opportunity 100%. The problem I have is with the kids who go to expensive boarding schools and use expensive private college counselors to be matched by QuestBridge. And those college counselors use them as examples to market to more un-deserving kids with resources. A lot of true QuestBridge kids don't even know how to take advantage of this program. They need to do a much better job of checking the qualifications of QuestBridge applicants.

I agree with this. And maybe schools should stop being lazy and find these kids themselves: 1) low-income kid, 2) attending low-performing public schools (urban or rural), 3) neither parent attended college, and 4) US citizen or permanent resident.

There are tons and tons of kids fulfilling all of these criteria. What proportion of Questbridge kids do? I’ll give a high-low on 50%.

[Anonymous]

True confession. I had zero idea what “quest bridge” was until end of my kid’s junior year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I'm sorry to see so much hate for this program.

We are white UMC. My kids attend a very diverse mixed-income high school, one that DCUM sneers at. They have friends who are wealthy and friends who rely on SNAP to get dinner on the table.

DC applied ED to a very selective college, obviously a reach. His friend matched through QB to this same school. DC's application was deferred, friend is committed there. DC's grades are better, has more academic awards and leadership in ECs (but friend has held a part time job consistently since he was old enough to work, which DC hasn't done), and SAT was 200 pts above the friend. But ... the friend is really bright and incredibly hard working. DC's awards and ECs were supported by us parents, while the friend did everything on his own. The friend missed quite a bit of school last year for family reasons, which impacted his grades; DC only missed school when he was really sick with strep throat.

DC will do well wherever he lands. He really hopes the deferral turns into an acceptance, but even if it doesn't, he'll be fine elsewhere. He has lots of targets and safeties that we can afford.

If the friend weren't accepted through QB, he'd graduate high school and turn his part time restaurant job into full time. No college.

None of us are the least bit upset about his friend going to DC's dream school, even if DC doesn't. DC is just happy for his friend.

Legacies, OTOH .... those should be done away with.

Love all of this. Thank you for posting.

Agree thank you for posting - making it so clear what these lower income deal w that umc kids - mine included - never face

Oh please. The QB kids don’t have to deal with the housekeeper, the cook, their overbearing SAHM, or multiple tutors. But most live comfortable, normal lives. Maybe they have to start dinner before a parent gets home or work a part time job. But majority are not slumming it and have a lot of public resources to utilize

Something tells me this isn’t your lived experience. As someone who was a super low income FG kid, there’s so much inequity you’ll never understand. I was fortunate to have access to lots of resources but that didn’t make my life easy and I faced a ton of struggles even when I went to college.

Thankfully I went to UVA and my life changed completely. I am now a senior level exec with a solid income, a homeowner and sending my kid off to college.

It took 1 generation to break out of poverty. My kid has never experienced it and will start life off with advantages others take for granted.

These QB kids are more than deserving of these opportunities.

Yep, I agree. I was not super low income, but low enough to qualify for Pell grants and state grants for low income families, in addition to being first generation to go to college.

I had parents who cared about education and knew it was the way out of blue collar and lower paying jobs. They got me a library card when I was in kindergarten and took me to the library every week. They made it clear to me that school and college were important and that they expected me to work hard in school.

But they knew nothing about applying to colleges, choosing a college or about applying for financial aid. Luckily, my public school had a decent guidance department. My kids have had a completely different middle class life with parents who knew how to help them get ready for college- it is like night and day to how I went about college applications.

You all who grew up with parents who had gone to college have no idea how different life is for kids whose parents haven’t ever been to college.

Questbridge kids at elite boarding schools have better college advising than any working-class kid. So I take it you agree that elite boarding school attendees should not be benefitting from a Questbridge admissions boost, at the expense of poor non-boarding school kids?

But it's not at the expense of poor non-boarding school kids because they also have access to Questbridge

Clearly you don’t know how Questbridge match works. Of course they are taking spots from more deserving students; stop being an apologist.

Please explain tonus how QB kids who attend boarding schools take spots from more qualified QB kids who don't attend boarding schools

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I'm sorry to see so much hate for this program.

We are white UMC. My kids attend a very diverse mixed-income high school, one that DCUM sneers at. They have friends who are wealthy and friends who rely on SNAP to get dinner on the table.

DC applied ED to a very selective college, obviously a reach. His friend matched through QB to this same school. DC's application was deferred, friend is committed there. DC's grades are better, has more academic awards and leadership in ECs (but friend has held a part time job consistently since he was old enough to work, which DC hasn't done), and SAT was 200 pts above the friend. But ... the friend is really bright and incredibly hard working. DC's awards and ECs were supported by us parents, while the friend did everything on his own. The friend missed quite a bit of school last year for family reasons, which impacted his grades; DC only missed school when he was really sick with strep throat.

DC will do well wherever he lands. He really hopes the deferral turns into an acceptance, but even if it doesn't, he'll be fine elsewhere. He has lots of targets and safeties that we can afford.

If the friend weren't accepted through QB, he'd graduate high school and turn his part time restaurant job into full time. No college.

None of us are the least bit upset about his friend going to DC's dream school, even if DC doesn't. DC is just happy for his friend.

Legacies, OTOH .... those should be done away with.

Love all of this. Thank you for posting.

Agree thank you for posting - making it so clear what these lower income deal w that umc kids - mine included - never face

Oh please. The QB kids don’t have to deal with the housekeeper, the cook, their overbearing SAHM, or multiple tutors. But most live comfortable, normal lives. Maybe they have to start dinner before a parent gets home or work a part time job. But majority are not slumming it and have a lot of public resources to utilize

Something tells me this isn’t your lived experience. As someone who was a super low income FG kid, there’s so much inequity you’ll never understand. I was fortunate to have access to lots of resources but that didn’t make my life easy and I faced a ton of struggles even when I went to college.

Thankfully I went to UVA and my life changed completely. I am now a senior level exec with a solid income, a homeowner and sending my kid off to college.

It took 1 generation to break out of poverty. My kid has never experienced it and will start life off with advantages others take for granted.

These QB kids are more than deserving of these opportunities.

Yep, I agree. I was not super low income, but low enough to qualify for Pell grants and state grants for low income families, in addition to being first generation to go to college.

I had parents who cared about education and knew it was the way out of blue collar and lower paying jobs. They got me a library card when I was in kindergarten and took me to the library every week. They made it clear to me that school and college were important and that they expected me to work hard in school.

But they knew nothing about applying to colleges, choosing a college or about applying for financial aid. Luckily, my public school had a decent guidance department. My kids have had a completely different middle class life with parents who knew how to help them get ready for college- it is like night and day to how I went about college applications.

You all who grew up with parents who had gone to college have no idea how different life is for kids whose parents haven’t ever been to college.

I think DCUM is too quick to dismiss “blue collar” jobs as being poor. In actuality, certain trades can earn way more than a typical office worker with an expensive but relatively generic degree. On Reddit, you should check out the r/salary community. Journeyman lineman for electic company making 400k and one of the posts is from a family medicine doctor who after 12 years of school and training making in the low 200s asking how they too can make the career switch into the electrician union. don’t assume.

PP here. I hesitated before writing “blue collar” for this reason, and that is why I wrote “and lower paying jobs.” Yes, a blue collar worker can earn a lot of money, but my parents wanted their kids to have the kind of career choices that were available through earning a college degree. They realized that everything is not always about money and that people with college educations sometimes treated them differently because of their own lack of opportunity to go to college.

The bigger point here is that, if parents went to college, their kids have many advantages that kids whose parents never went to college just don’t have. A good guidance counselor can help in the application process, but can never completely make up for those disadvantages.

If you were raised by parents who went to college, it’s hard to understand how different it is for kids who are first generation. I see this in my own kids. I can talk to them about what was different about my life growing up, but they can’t truly understand it.

The lineman has to risk their life and works ridiculous overtime to make 400k. Another dumb take. Not surprised coming from DCUM.

[Anonymous]

The rich has a thousand ways to hide their assets. Middle class has no way of doing those.