Vacancies

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most of the positions are listed as FTE. So if you just do a search on the vacancy page for FTE, it'll return 388 hits. So there's how many vacancies there are give or take (some listings could be for multiple positions).

It's pretty similar to last year.

This is very troubling. It’s been four years since the pandemic and it’s not slowing down.

What’s the connection between the pandemic and the teacher shortage?

Some teachers decided that after working at home, they decided they wanted continue with that. Deloitte was snatching up teachers left and right in 2021. We had a 4th grade teacher take a job there 6 weeks before school ended.

Then there was a wave who left (and have continued) to leave after dealing with such challenging behaviors. Kids were not well when they came back. After being isolated at home and having hours and hours of access to the worst parts of the internet, things were not pretty in 2021. That combined with the decrease in teacher prep program and the vitriol lobbed against teachers (by some parents) have all led to where we are today in 2024.

A lot of the COVID era Student Teachers and first years are on the way out. They came in during the worst time to in history to become a teacher

[Anonymous]

How much does a teacher make starting at FCPS? Around 40k ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How much does a teacher make starting at FCPS? Around 40k ?

$58K with a bachelors and zero experience

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/fy25-teacher-195-day.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most of the positions are listed as FTE. So if you just do a search on the vacancy page for FTE, it'll return 388 hits. So there's how many vacancies there are give or take (some listings could be for multiple positions).

It's pretty similar to last year.

This is very troubling. It’s been four years since the pandemic and it’s not slowing down.

What’s the connection between the pandemic and the teacher shortage?

Some teachers decided that after working at home, they decided they wanted continue with that. Deloitte was snatching up teachers left and right in 2021. We had a 4th grade teacher take a job there 6 weeks before school ended.

Then there was a wave who left (and have continued) to leave after dealing with such challenging behaviors. Kids were not well when they came back. After being isolated at home and having hours and hours of access to the worst parts of the internet, things were not pretty in 2021. That combined with the decrease in teacher prep program and the vitriol lobbed against teachers (by some parents) have all led to where we are today in 2024.

I’m sure some liked working from home, but most got tired of being made the scapegoat for failed district/principal policies and of getting yelled at by parents who want a babysitter first and a teacher second. Many of us realized that, despite the rhetoric from those mentioned above, we can do a lot of jobs that aren’t located in school buildings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most of the positions are listed as FTE. So if you just do a search on the vacancy page for FTE, it'll return 388 hits. So there's how many vacancies there are give or take (some listings could be for multiple positions).

It's pretty similar to last year.

This is very troubling. It’s been four years since the pandemic and it’s not slowing down.

What’s the connection between the pandemic and the teacher shortage?

The issues started well before the pandemic. The pandemic brought them to light and made teachers realize they are not indentured servants even if that is how they are treated. Seriously we are not paying or respecting teachers enough to keep them and in a county as big as FCPS principals hands are tied.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most of the positions are listed as FTE. So if you just do a search on the vacancy page for FTE, it'll return 388 hits. So there's how many vacancies there are give or take (some listings could be for multiple positions).

It's pretty similar to last year.

This is very troubling. It’s been four years since the pandemic and it’s not slowing down.

What’s the connection between the pandemic and the teacher shortage?

The issues started well before the pandemic. The pandemic brought them to light and made teachers realize they are not indentured servants even if that is how they are treated. Seriously we are not paying or respecting teachers enough to keep them and in a county as big as FCPS principals hands are tied.

+1, teachers don’t get extra money for working harder and there’s no consequence to working less. Many decided that they were giving up way too much of their personal/family time to work - it wasn’t worth it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most of the positions are listed as FTE. So if you just do a search on the vacancy page for FTE, it'll return 388 hits. So there's how many vacancies there are give or take (some listings could be for multiple positions).

It's pretty similar to last year.

This is very troubling. It’s been four years since the pandemic and it’s not slowing down.

What’s the connection between the pandemic and the teacher shortage?

The issues started well before the pandemic. The pandemic brought them to light and made teachers realize they are not indentured servants even if that is how they are treated. Seriously we are not paying or respecting teachers enough to keep them and in a county as big as FCPS principals hands are tied.

+1, teachers don’t get extra money for working harder and there’s no consequence to working less. Many decided that they were giving up way too much of their personal/family time to work - it wasn’t worth it.

Yup

[Anonymous]

Superintendent send out her email for the week. They got 300 teachers from overseas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Superintendent send out her email for the week. They got 300 teachers from overseas.

I’m sure that they’ll also become disenfranchised with the American public school system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Superintendent send out her email for the week. They got 300 teachers from overseas.

Aah more teachers to use and abuse. Good luck to them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Superintendent send out her email for the week. They got 300 teachers from overseas.

I’m sure that they’ll also become disenfranchised with the American public school system.

They’ll probably stick around because many of them probably took out a loan to afford to go through the visa process.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/10/02/teacher-shortage-bullhead-city-arizona/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Superintendent send out her email for the week. They got 300 teachers from overseas.

I’m sure that they’ll also become disenfranchised with the American public school system.

They’ll probably stick around because many of them probably took out a loan to afford to go through the visa process.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/10/02/teacher-shortage-bullhead-city-arizona/

I was thinking this too, can they quit if they are on a work visa? I figure if you quit they have to go home right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Superintendent send out her email for the week. They got 300 teachers from overseas.

I’m sure that they’ll also become disenfranchised with the American public school system.

These international teachers are in for a shock. A lot of these teachers are coming from places where the teaching style is still low tech and very traditional. Kids in rows, uniforms, lectures, low computer usage. I know that we are going to get great teachers from this but the learning curve is going to be insane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Superintendent send out her email for the week. They got 300 teachers from overseas.

I’m sure that they’ll also become disenfranchised with the American public school system.

These international teachers are in for a shock. A lot of these teachers are coming from places where the teaching style is still low tech and very traditional. Kids in rows, uniforms, lectures, low computer usage. I know that we are going to get great teachers from this but the learning curve is going to be insane.

+1. A lot of them are getting placed at schools that are understaffed either because the student population is very needy and/or the administration is bad. Dealing with that plus trying to make ends meet in this area on a teacher's salary is a rough ride.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Superintendent send out her email for the week. They got 300 teachers from overseas.

I’m sure that they’ll also become disenfranchised with the American public school system.

These international teachers are in for a shock. A lot of these teachers are coming from places where the teaching style is still low tech and very traditional. Kids in rows, uniforms, lectures, low computer usage. I know that we are going to get great teachers from this but the learning curve is going to be insane.

+1. A lot of them are getting placed at schools that are understaffed either because the student population is very needy and/or the administration is bad. Dealing with that plus trying to make ends meet in this area on a teacher's salary is a rough ride.

I’d be curious to find out what the turnover rate is for these teachers. I’ve been in FCPS for 14 years at three different schools (all Title 1) and never met a teacher From from another country on a work visa.