Anti-war crime does not equal anti-Semitic

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Anonymous wrote:I’m fully pro Jewish. Much of my family is Jewish. But blindly backing the Israeli government’s current actions is not okay. I am anti-genocide and anti-war crime, which currently makes me anti-Israel. I wish people would really look at the difference here. The Jewish people need to step up for human rights.

Is anti-Israel, as in “Israel shouldn’t exist”, ok?

Because that’s what many of the protesters are calling for.

If their existence requires a genocide to ensure their safety, perhaps it shouldn't exist. The majority of the citizens are white Europeans and Americans trying to hold land they violently stole.

That is not to say the Jewish people shouldn't exist, but I don't really see why they are entitled to take a country that wasn't theirs and hold it through extreme violence and oppression of the native people.

Give them their country back. One state. Everyone eligible for citizenship. No more apartheid. If you don't like it or don't feel safe, go home to your actual country.

I don’t see how Jewish people are not considered native to Israel. Does no one read the Bible anymore?

The Bible is a work of fiction to many people and it doesn’t matter where people lived 2,000 years ago. It’s too bad we still can’t live mixed with different religions and get along.

Um, like Christians, Jews, and Muslims do in Israel?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m fully pro Jewish. Much of my family is Jewish. But blindly backing the Israeli government’s current actions is not okay. I am anti-genocide and anti-war crime, which currently makes me anti-Israel. I wish people would really look at the difference here. The Jewish people need to step up for human rights.

Is anti-Israel, as in “Israel shouldn’t exist”, ok?

Because that’s what many of the protesters are calling for.

If their existence requires a genocide to ensure their safety, perhaps it shouldn't exist. The majority of the citizens are white Europeans and Americans trying to hold land they violently stole.

That is not to say the Jewish people shouldn't exist, but I don't really see why they are entitled to take a country that wasn't theirs and hold it through extreme violence and oppression of the native people.

Give them their country back. One state. Everyone eligible for citizenship. No more apartheid. If you don't like it or don't feel safe, go home to your actual country.

I don’t see how Jewish people are not considered native to Israel. Does no one read the Bible anymore?

The Bible is a work of fiction to many people and it doesn’t matter where people lived 2,000 years ago. It’s too bad we still can’t live mixed with different religions and get along.

Um, like Christians, Jews, and Muslims do in Israel?

Israel is a curated little joke where Jews control everything that matters but put up some street signs in English and Arabic to create a fake appearance of multi-culturalism (while viciously suppressing the Palestinians).

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Anonymous wrote:I assume anyone who brings up the Holocaust and Zionazi/colonizer type language in response to this conflict is: a paid propagandist spreading Holocaust inversion messaging (likeliest troll on here, why they are not blocked by the moderator is a mystery), a clueless child educated by Tiktok online terrorists, an antisemite. If you want to criticize the Israeli government and its actions, you can easily do so by talking about specific actions you disagree with, without descending into this. I rarely see it though, why? Back to who is posting this crap...

There have been many documented war crimes by Israel but no one cares. They've targeted and killed aid workers. Bombed hospitals. Thrown bodies of hospital patients and staff into mass graves. Most US based Israel supporters won't even believed the widely-accepted death toll numbers, you think they'll accept the facts about war crimes (as reported by reputable Western outlets and even admitted by IDF)??

Not defending Israel here, but I'm confused as to why Israel's actions are a war crime, but Hamas killing over a thousand innocent Israeli civilians in one day is not worth mentioning?

They didn't kill over a thousand of innocent civilians. Deduct IDF personnel and see how much is left.

Deduct the 20,000 to 30,000 Hamas members killed, and there have not been many collateral casualties in Gaza, except:

- only Hamas is giving out numbers of casualties, and we know they lie;

- Hamas lied about the hospital attack - claiming IDF did it and 500 killed, but later it was revealed Islamic Jihad did it and IJ only killed a few dozen.

Let’s not forget the increasing number of US rioters on campuses waiving Hamas and Hezbollah banners. They should be arrested for material support to designated terrorist organizations.

So all the European and American doctors who have reported back from working in hospitals in Gaza and seeing the dead and orphaned children are…making it up? Hamas? What. Babies in incubators are Hamas now?

The saddest part of having to argue with deranged Zionist propagandists is that these dopes don't even realize that their own Israeli government not only regards the Gaza Health Ministry data as rock-solid, but they actually use it as the bedrock of their census system for the occupied territories.

F’ing maroons and yet we have to ensure them prattling on about their mythical Ashkenazi genius traits … ugh.

Thank you for pulling back the curtain on Gaza supporters. You’re just a bigot. And you support a population of misogynistic, pedophile terrorists. You probably cheered on 9/11.

Misogynistic pedophiles like the founder of ZAKA, the organization that manufactured the beheaded babies false claim, the raped sisters false claim, the nails in pelvises false claim, the babies hung on clotheslines false claims, the babies baked in ovens false claims, the mass rape false claims, and so many other fabrications about 10/7?

Or just the more garden variety misogynistic pedophile like Jeffrey Epstein, honorary captain of the Israeli security apparatus?

Or even the foundational misogynistic pedophiles in the Irgun, Lehi, Stern Gang who did LITERALLY all of the things falsely claimed by ZAKA to the Palestinians in the lead up to Israel’s establishment, and then formed the original IDF after the non-indigenous immigrants to Israel stole the land of the indigenous landholders?

As for 9/11, it was awful and like every American of conscience, I lament what happened that day. I guess I just wish that so actively supporting a POS country in the Middle East that cannot stop terrorizing its neighbors didn’t result in those terrorized neighbors taking it out on the those of us in the U.S., mere victims by association.

The people who defend Israel the way you do are evil. The world sees you, it always has - because you can’t stop yourself from attack, attack, attack. Of course, you can’t actually defend yourself when others eventually attack back in response, and so you require the U.S. to prop you up. Pathetic.

Evil people exist. And some of those who are evil happen to be Jewish. Islam is a religion where the entire belief system is founded on hate, misogyny, violence, and child abuse. How old does a girl have to be to be married? - it’s when she begins menstruating. Honor killings - a ok! Don’t wear a hijab - morality police will murder you. Rape a boy on Thursday, all will be forgiven on Friday. These are mainstream practices, not fringe elements. Maybe Gaza should not have started a war with a country they depend on for survival and that they cannot win.

Well one thing is that’s this is all made up by you. And another thing is that the Old Testament isn’t exactly sweetness and light, is it?

Totally made up.…https://media.defense.gov/2022/Jan/06/2002918533/-1/-1/1/JIPA%20-%20ALVI%20-%2022.PDF

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Anonymous wrote:What war crimes has Israel committed? The DoD Law of War Manual should assist in answering this - https://media.defense.gov/2023/Jul/31/2003271432/-1/-1/0/DOD-LAW-OF-WAR-MANUAL-JUNE-2015-UPDATED-JULY%202023.PDF

And I will ask again, as no one seems to answer - what is palestine and who is a palestinian?
And even more challenging is Islam a religion of peace? Are the misogynistic, homophobic, and jihadist tenents of Islam really what you want to see preserved and supported? Islam is a religion of subjugation and violence - for the life of me I do not understand why the progressive left in this country is championing its cause. You are all being played.

Tenents?

Never mind. We are now entering Phase 2 of our regular programming, aka "We are oppressing them because they are bad people and deserve nothing better."

But it’s true. This is what the left is championing. And let’s add in the child abuse. Kite Runner’s opening scene is a regular occurrence in Muslim cultures/countries…

I'm Quraysh- cant be more muslim than me and thats news to me.
There isplenty of stoning and killing , rape, etc etc in the Old Testament- its barbaric and only Jews who have abandoned the "tenants" (you meant tenets I presume) of their "holy' book are decent people and the truth is that more and more will become dedicated to that Bronze age set of laws and teachings the longer that they have their own nation.

the United States has no business subsidizing a state that doesnt adhere to separation of church and state. I absolutely agree that the Palestinians should've realized that they were worse off under the brits than the Ottomans and had been betrayed instead of the path they took and that the underdog of Israel seemed like a good choice given the history. However, the atrocities of the Nakba are on par with any fascist state and the subsequent Israeli actions are absolutely at odds with western post enlightenment values. I vacation in the Catskills every summer, I know- remember the backwards Jewish people who kidnap young girls from their own community and send them to Mexico to be raped by their 'husbands'. To paraphrase an offensive NYT quote "the only good jews, are bad jews" The law of Moses (pbuh) is barbaric to todays norms.

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Anonymous wrote:I assume anyone who brings up the Holocaust and Zionazi/colonizer type language in response to this conflict is: a paid propagandist spreading Holocaust inversion messaging (likeliest troll on here, why they are not blocked by the moderator is a mystery), a clueless child educated by Tiktok online terrorists, an antisemite. If you want to criticize the Israeli government and its actions, you can easily do so by talking about specific actions you disagree with, without descending into this. I rarely see it though, why? Back to who is posting this crap...

There have been many documented war crimes by Israel but no one cares. They've targeted and killed aid workers. Bombed hospitals. Thrown bodies of hospital patients and staff into mass graves. Most US based Israel supporters won't even believed the widely-accepted death toll numbers, you think they'll accept the facts about war crimes (as reported by reputable Western outlets and even admitted by IDF)??

Not defending Israel here, but I'm confused as to why Israel's actions are a war crime, but Hamas killing over a thousand innocent Israeli civilians in one day is not worth mentioning?

They didn't kill over a thousand of innocent civilians. Deduct IDF personnel and see how much is left.

Israel has a military draft. Most of these people were required to be there and they had no choice in the matter. You guys are beyond ridiculous. It's very clear to me that many of these Palestine supporters just don't like Jewish people. They are not even willing to condemn 10/7 and avoid the question when asked about it.

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Anonymous wrote:What war crimes has Israel committed? The DoD Law of War Manual should assist in answering this - https://media.defense.gov/2023/Jul/31/2003271432/-1/-1/0/DOD-LAW-OF-WAR-MANUAL-JUNE-2015-UPDATED-JULY%202023.PDF

And I will ask again, as no one seems to answer - what is palestine and who is a palestinian?
And even more challenging is Islam a religion of peace? Are the misogynistic, homophobic, and jihadist tenents of Islam really what you want to see preserved and supported? Islam is a religion of subjugation and violence - for the life of me I do not understand why the progressive left in this country is championing its cause. You are all being played.

Tenents?

Never mind. We are now entering Phase 2 of our regular programming, aka "We are oppressing them because they are bad people and deserve nothing better."

But it’s true. This is what the left is championing. And let’s add in the child abuse. Kite Runner’s opening scene is a regular occurrence in Muslim cultures/countries…

I'm Quraysh- cant be more muslim than me and thats news to me.
There isplenty of stoning and killing , rape, etc etc in the Old Testament- its barbaric and only Jews who have abandoned the "tenants" (you meant tenets I presume) of their "holy' book are decent people and the truth is that more and more will become dedicated to that Bronze age set of laws and teachings the longer that they have their own nation.

the United States has no business subsidizing a state that doesnt adhere to separation of church and state. I absolutely agree that the Palestinians should've realized that they were worse off under the brits than the Ottomans and had been betrayed instead of the path they took and that the underdog of Israel seemed like a good choice given the history. However, the atrocities of the Nakba are on par with any fascist state and the subsequent Israeli actions are absolutely at odds with western post enlightenment values. I vacation in the Catskills every summer, I know- remember the backwards Jewish people who kidnap young girls from their own community and send them to Mexico to be raped by their 'husbands'. To paraphrase an offensive NYT quote "the only good jews, are bad jews" The law of Moses (pbuh) is barbaric to todays norms.

+1 (billion)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I assume anyone who brings up the Holocaust and Zionazi/colonizer type language in response to this conflict is: a paid propagandist spreading Holocaust inversion messaging (likeliest troll on here, why they are not blocked by the moderator is a mystery), a clueless child educated by Tiktok online terrorists, an antisemite. If you want to criticize the Israeli government and its actions, you can easily do so by talking about specific actions you disagree with, without descending into this. I rarely see it though, why? Back to who is posting this crap...

There have been many documented war crimes by Israel but no one cares. They've targeted and killed aid workers. Bombed hospitals. Thrown bodies of hospital patients and staff into mass graves. Most US based Israel supporters won't even believed the widely-accepted death toll numbers, you think they'll accept the facts about war crimes (as reported by reputable Western outlets and even admitted by IDF)??

Not defending Israel here, but I'm confused as to why Israel's actions are a war crime, but Hamas killing over a thousand innocent Israeli civilians in one day is not worth mentioning?

They didn't kill over a thousand of innocent civilians. Deduct IDF personnel and see how much is left.

Israel has a military draft. Most of these people were required to be there and they had no choice in the matter. You guys are beyond ridiculous. It's very clear to me that many of these Palestine supporters just don't like Jewish people. They are not even willing to condemn 10/7 and avoid the question when asked about it.

Have yet to see a single poster in 1,000s of pages on this topic who has refused to condemn 10/7. Not one.

Meanwhile, I HAVE seen many hundreds of posts refusing to extend as much as an ounce of care or concern with what occurred before or after 10/7.

People that value the lives of only one group have a special place in hell reserved for them. I hope you’re a warm-weather gal.

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People that value the lives of only one group have a special place in hell reserved for them. I hope you’re a warm-weather gal.

People that value the lives of one only group are going to hell? Rather, they’re going to a particularly bad part of hell? What’s that based on exactly? That’s a weird thing to conclude. What if they value the lives of two or more disparate unconnected groups? What’s your inside information on the afterlife then?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m fully pro Jewish. Much of my family is Jewish. But blindly backing the Israeli government’s current actions is not okay. I am anti-genocide and anti-war crime, which currently makes me anti-Israel. I wish people would really look at the difference here. The Jewish people need to step up for human rights.

Is anti-Israel, as in “Israel shouldn’t exist”, ok?

Because that’s what many of the protesters are calling for.

If their existence requires a genocide to ensure their safety, perhaps it shouldn't exist. The majority of the citizens are white Europeans and Americans trying to hold land they violently stole.

That is not to say the Jewish people shouldn't exist, but I don't really see why they are entitled to take a country that wasn't theirs and hold it through extreme violence and oppression of the native people.

Give them their country back. One state. Everyone eligible for citizenship. No more apartheid. If you don't like it or don't feel safe, go home to your actual country.

I don’t see how Jewish people are not considered native to Israel. Does no one read the Bible anymore?

Whether they are or not, if you are a human who is not decrying the genocide, you are as bad as the Nazis. There is zero excuse for war crimes ever. That is the whole point.

Whether or not, if you are a human who did not decry the deranged massacre in October 7th, you are as bad as the Nazis . Can’t you people look at yourselves?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I assume anyone who brings up the Holocaust and Zionazi/colonizer type language in response to this conflict is: a paid propagandist spreading Holocaust inversion messaging (likeliest troll on here, why they are not blocked by the moderator is a mystery), a clueless child educated by Tiktok online terrorists, an antisemite. If you want to criticize the Israeli government and its actions, you can easily do so by talking about specific actions you disagree with, without descending into this. I rarely see it though, why? Back to who is posting this crap...

There have been many documented war crimes by Israel but no one cares. They've targeted and killed aid workers. Bombed hospitals. Thrown bodies of hospital patients and staff into mass graves. Most US based Israel supporters won't even believed the widely-accepted death toll numbers, you think they'll accept the facts about war crimes (as reported by reputable Western outlets and even admitted by IDF)??

Not defending Israel here, but I'm confused as to why Israel's actions are a war crime, but Hamas killing over a thousand innocent Israeli civilians in one day is not worth mentioning?

They didn't kill over a thousand of innocent civilians. Deduct IDF personnel and see how much is left.

Israel has a military draft. Most of these people were required to be there and they had no choice in the matter. You guys are beyond ridiculous. It's very clear to me that many of these Palestine supporters just don't like Jewish people. They are not even willing to condemn 10/7 and avoid the question when asked about it.

Have yet to see a single poster in 1,000s of pages on this topic who has refused to condemn 10/7. Not one.

Meanwhile, I HAVE seen many hundreds of posts refusing to extend as much as an ounce of care or concern with what occurred before or after 10/7.

People that value the lives of only one group have a special place in hell reserved for them. I hope you’re a warm-weather gal.

^ this.

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People that value the lives of only one group have a special place in hell reserved for them. I hope you’re a warm-weather gal.

People that value the lives of one only group are going to hell? Rather, they’re going to a particularly bad part of hell? What’s that based on exactly? That’s a weird thing to conclude. What if they value the lives of two or more disparate unconnected groups? What’s your inside information on the afterlife then?

You are so clever!

Notwithstanding, hell is a metaphor for misfortune. I wonder if that might explain the disparate fortunes amongst different groups? As in, the more evil one might allow themselves to succumb to, the more misfortune befalls them?

Like … they could call it karma.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m fully pro Jewish. Much of my family is Jewish. But blindly backing the Israeli government’s current actions is not okay. I am anti-genocide and anti-war crime, which currently makes me anti-Israel. I wish people would really look at the difference here. The Jewish people need to step up for human rights.

Is anti-Israel, as in “Israel shouldn’t exist”, ok?

Because that’s what many of the protesters are calling for.

If their existence requires a genocide to ensure their safety, perhaps it shouldn't exist. The majority of the citizens are white Europeans and Americans trying to hold land they violently stole.

That is not to say the Jewish people shouldn't exist, but I don't really see why they are entitled to take a country that wasn't theirs and hold it through extreme violence and oppression of the native people.

Give them their country back. One state. Everyone eligible for citizenship. No more apartheid. If you don't like it or don't feel safe, go home to your actual country.

I don’t see how Jewish people are not considered native to Israel. Does no one read the Bible anymore?

Whether they are or not, if you are a human who is not decrying the genocide, you are as bad as the Nazis. There is zero excuse for war crimes ever. That is the whole point.

Whether or not, if you are a human who did not decry the deranged massacre in October 7th, you are as bad as the Nazis . Can’t you people look at yourselves?

Was the scope of the massacre on 10/7 larger or smaller than the scope of the massacre since 10/7?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What war crimes has Israel committed? The DoD Law of War Manual should assist in answering this - https://media.defense.gov/2023/Jul/31/2003271432/-1/-1/0/DOD-LAW-OF-WAR-MANUAL-JUNE-2015-UPDATED-JULY%202023.PDF

And I will ask again, as no one seems to answer - what is palestine and who is a palestinian?
And even more challenging is Islam a religion of peace? Are the misogynistic, homophobic, and jihadist tenents of Islam really what you want to see preserved and supported? Islam is a religion of subjugation and violence - for the life of me I do not understand why the progressive left in this country is championing its cause. You are all being played.

Tenents?

Never mind. We are now entering Phase 2 of our regular programming, aka "We are oppressing them because they are bad people and deserve nothing better."

But it’s true. This is what the left is championing. And let’s add in the child abuse. Kite Runner’s opening scene is a regular occurrence in Muslim cultures/countries…

I'm Quraysh- cant be more muslim than me and thats news to me.
There isplenty of stoning and killing , rape, etc etc in the Old Testament- its barbaric and only Jews who have abandoned the "tenants" (you meant tenets I presume) of their "holy' book are decent people and the truth is that more and more will become dedicated to that Bronze age set of laws and teachings the longer that they have their own nation.

the United States has no business subsidizing a state that doesnt adhere to separation of church and state. I absolutely agree that the Palestinians should've realized that they were worse off under the brits than the Ottomans and had been betrayed instead of the path they took and that the underdog of Israel seemed like a good choice given the history. However, the atrocities of the Nakba are on par with any fascist state and the subsequent Israeli actions are absolutely at odds with western post enlightenment values. I vacation in the Catskills every summer, I know- remember the backwards Jewish people who kidnap young girls from their own community and send them to Mexico to be raped by their 'husbands'. To paraphrase an offensive NYT quote "the only good jews, are bad jews" The law of Moses (pbuh) is barbaric to todays norms.

The only nation-states that still stone and kill for crimes against religion are sharia nation-states. Rogue extremist communities are terrible, but the women who want to drive in Saudi Arabia today or the women who want to go without a hijab in Iran would like a word. Are Saudi Arabia and Iran rogue extremists?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What war crimes has Israel committed? The DoD Law of War Manual should assist in answering this - https://media.defense.gov/2023/Jul/31/2003271432/-1/-1/0/DOD-LAW-OF-WAR-MANUAL-JUNE-2015-UPDATED-JULY%202023.PDF

And I will ask again, as no one seems to answer - what is palestine and who is a palestinian?
And even more challenging is Islam a religion of peace? Are the misogynistic, homophobic, and jihadist tenents of Islam really what you want to see preserved and supported? Islam is a religion of subjugation and violence - for the life of me I do not understand why the progressive left in this country is championing its cause. You are all being played.

Tenents?

Never mind. We are now entering Phase 2 of our regular programming, aka "We are oppressing them because they are bad people and deserve nothing better."

But it’s true. This is what the left is championing. And let’s add in the child abuse. Kite Runner’s opening scene is a regular occurrence in Muslim cultures/countries…

I'm Quraysh- cant be more muslim than me and thats news to me.
There isplenty of stoning and killing , rape, etc etc in the Old Testament- its barbaric and only Jews who have abandoned the "tenants" (you meant tenets I presume) of their "holy' book are decent people and the truth is that more and more will become dedicated to that Bronze age set of laws and teachings the longer that they have their own nation.

the United States has no business subsidizing a state that doesnt adhere to separation of church and state. I absolutely agree that the Palestinians should've realized that they were worse off under the brits than the Ottomans and had been betrayed instead of the path they took and that the underdog of Israel seemed like a good choice given the history. However, the atrocities of the Nakba are on par with any fascist state and the subsequent Israeli actions are absolutely at odds with western post enlightenment values. I vacation in the Catskills every summer, I know- remember the backwards Jewish people who kidnap young girls from their own community and send them to Mexico to be raped by their 'husbands'. To paraphrase an offensive NYT quote "the only good jews, are bad jews" The law of Moses (pbuh) is barbaric to todays norms.

The only nation-states that still stone and kill for crimes against religion are sharia nation-states. Rogue extremist communities are terrible, but the women who want to drive in Saudi Arabia today or the women who want to go without a hijab in Iran would like a word. Are Saudi Arabia and Iran rogue extremists?

Israel extra-judiciously kills children throwing stones all TF time - does that count?