Anonymous wrote:Anyone currently biking on Conn Ave today is not a typical cyclist. I've been biking nearly daily in DC for decades and am still terrified whenever I have to take Conn. The vast majority of cyclists are too scared to bike there. When there are bike lanes - which will apparently not be anytime soon - there will be many more people able to bike that way.
Bike lanes on Conn Ave are the ultimate in entitlement. Inconveniencing and slowing down traffic for tens of thousands for the benefit of a few hundred.
It's absolutely true that there are very few cyclists who use Connecticut - BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BIKE LANES! The only way to increase cycling is to make cycling safe. In the Netherlands, there is a great cycling infrastructure and cycling is widespread.
Of course, DC is not going to turn into the Netherlands, you say, because we're a car culture. True. As was Netherlands in 1971, when more than 400 children were killed in traffic accidents. It took a lot of work and many years to build safe cities there, as it will here. We should start now.
Then move to the Netherlands. And when you're too feeble to ride your bike anymore you can ask the government to euthanize you.
.
Or just move downtown where there are plenty of bike lanes and stop trying to screw up livable family neighborhoods.
What? I live in a “family neighborhood” (or at least that’s what I think you have in mind) and bike lanes are essential to protecting my children when they travel back and forth to school and activities. This is their only way to get around because they can’t drive, the bus network is pathetic, their parents are not privileged enough to have the time or the money to drive them around everywhere, and the notion of them taking rides when random strangers driving ride-shares doesn’t really appeal. How would you like them to get around? Or would you prefer them to just sit at home and pick up apart your obnoxiously idiotic claims?
They can walk.
It takes three times as long to walk as to bike, which would mean they could do very little in the way of activities.
Where do you live and where are these activities on Connecticut Avenue that they can't get to unless on a bike? How old are your kids?
Would you like a social security number as well?
The point is not hard to grasp, unless of course you know nothing about life in DC or are suffering from the cognitive dissonance associated with espousing policies that are deeply detrimental to the quality of life enjoyed by DC residents.
There is no way my kids would have been able to participate in the breadth of activities they’ve enjoyed across DC if they didn’t have bikes. We are somewhat cavalier perhaps in letting them ride on streets without protected bike lanes. But many other parents are not and I get that.
You didn't answer the question because you are probably single and have no idea what life is like with children in the k-12 range.
You’re a creep. That is why no one is answering your questions.
I didn't ask a question. Just a new person who noticed that you didn't answer a question and still haven't answered the question because you are out of touch and don't what it's like to have the demands of a family. You want to impose your selfish view on everyone just so that you can ride your bike -- and bypass other public transportations options -- to go drink your beer or latte. Something that those of us with kids are far too busy to do. And yet here you are posting on a forum filled with people with kids who just don't have time for your nonsense. If people need to get to work, there are existing bike options if they so choose. The demand isn't there and never was there.
Family guy here, not the one you have been answering with. Our kids ride, we ride, we would ride more if it were safer, which is why we support more bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue and across the city and region. We ride to kids sporting events - soccer and baseball, we ride to their music classes (no, not a stand-up Bass) and art classes. We prefer riding to any other mode because of the flexibility and exercise. Our familiy riding takes two cars off the road and frees up parking spots for those who have no other option but to drive, so drivers should be happy about our choices and support our call for a safer path for us.
+1
Anti-bike people are short-sighted idiots, to put it nicely.
Probably no better advocates against bike lanes and the bike lane advocates. Please keep doing more of what you’re doing. There will likely be several more policy victories, like removing already installed bike lanes.
Making a city activitely more hostile to bikers and pedestrians is not a “victory.” It’s actually pathetic.
They are making it more safe for pedestrians. Pedestrian interests and cyclist interests are not the same.
DP: I agree that they are not the same. This plan is going to push more bikes onto sidewalks, negatively impacting the pedestrian experience
This. I hate riding on sidewalks and always feel sheepish about it. No more.
OK. Since we're older pearl clutching pedestrians, we'll be sure to carry our walking sticks. Better that bikers be sheepish rather than aggressive. A stick between the spokes makes a marvelous emergency break when bikes are indifferent to pedestrians.
Anonymous wrote:Anyone currently biking on Conn Ave today is not a typical cyclist. I've been biking nearly daily in DC for decades and am still terrified whenever I have to take Conn. The vast majority of cyclists are too scared to bike there. When there are bike lanes - which will apparently not be anytime soon - there will be many more people able to bike that way.
Bike lanes on Conn Ave are the ultimate in entitlement. Inconveniencing and slowing down traffic for tens of thousands for the benefit of a few hundred.
It's absolutely true that there are very few cyclists who use Connecticut - BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BIKE LANES! The only way to increase cycling is to make cycling safe. In the Netherlands, there is a great cycling infrastructure and cycling is widespread.
Of course, DC is not going to turn into the Netherlands, you say, because we're a car culture. True. As was Netherlands in 1971, when more than 400 children were killed in traffic accidents. It took a lot of work and many years to build safe cities there, as it will here. We should start now.
Then move to the Netherlands. And when you're too feeble to ride your bike anymore you can ask the government to euthanize you.
.
Or just move downtown where there are plenty of bike lanes and stop trying to screw up livable family neighborhoods.
What? I live in a “family neighborhood” (or at least that’s what I think you have in mind) and bike lanes are essential to protecting my children when they travel back and forth to school and activities. This is their only way to get around because they can’t drive, the bus network is pathetic, their parents are not privileged enough to have the time or the money to drive them around everywhere, and the notion of them taking rides when random strangers driving ride-shares doesn’t really appeal. How would you like them to get around? Or would you prefer them to just sit at home and pick up apart your obnoxiously idiotic claims?
They can walk.
It takes three times as long to walk as to bike, which would mean they could do very little in the way of activities.
Where do you live and where are these activities on Connecticut Avenue that they can't get to unless on a bike? How old are your kids?
Would you like a social security number as well?
The point is not hard to grasp, unless of course you know nothing about life in DC or are suffering from the cognitive dissonance associated with espousing policies that are deeply detrimental to the quality of life enjoyed by DC residents.
There is no way my kids would have been able to participate in the breadth of activities they’ve enjoyed across DC if they didn’t have bikes. We are somewhat cavalier perhaps in letting them ride on streets without protected bike lanes. But many other parents are not and I get that.
You didn't answer the question because you are probably single and have no idea what life is like with children in the k-12 range.
You’re a creep. That is why no one is answering your questions.
I didn't ask a question. Just a new person who noticed that you didn't answer a question and still haven't answered the question because you are out of touch and don't what it's like to have the demands of a family. You want to impose your selfish view on everyone just so that you can ride your bike -- and bypass other public transportations options -- to go drink your beer or latte. Something that those of us with kids are far too busy to do. And yet here you are posting on a forum filled with people with kids who just don't have time for your nonsense. If people need to get to work, there are existing bike options if they so choose. The demand isn't there and never was there.
Family guy here, not the one you have been answering with. Our kids ride, we ride, we would ride more if it were safer, which is why we support more bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue and across the city and region. We ride to kids sporting events - soccer and baseball, we ride to their music classes (no, not a stand-up Bass) and art classes. We prefer riding to any other mode because of the flexibility and exercise. Our familiy riding takes two cars off the road and frees up parking spots for those who have no other option but to drive, so drivers should be happy about our choices and support our call for a safer path for us.
+1
Anti-bike people are short-sighted idiots, to put it nicely.
Probably no better advocates against bike lanes and the bike lane advocates. Please keep doing more of what you’re doing. There will likely be several more policy victories, like removing already installed bike lanes.
Making a city activitely more hostile to bikers and pedestrians is not a “victory.” It’s actually pathetic.
They are making it more safe for pedestrians. Pedestrian interests and cyclist interests are not the same.
DP: I agree that they are not the same. This plan is going to push more bikes onto sidewalks, negatively impacting the pedestrian experience
This. I hate riding on sidewalks and always feel sheepish about it. No more.
Just resist the urge to ride like a complete a-hole and it will be just fine.
But if you insist on tearing down the sidewalk like a spandex clad cheetah screeching at everyone in “your” way, then you’re going to have problems.
DP and you're right I'll just stick to the road. As a driver please resist the urge to drive like a complete a hole tearing down ct ave and honking at every biker in "your" way. Otherwise, you'll have problems.
I don’t drive like an a-hole, so it shouldn’t be a problem.
But if you decide to keep running red lights and stop signs, maybe we’ll meet one day. You’ll be the one going into the ambulance while I’m laughing with the police, telling them how you ran a red light right in front of me and then went underneath my car. Then we’ll watch my dashcam video and laugh some more. The cops will make sure I have your name and personal info so I can pass it on to my insurance company, who will come after you for the damage your body caused to my car.
I’ll wave bye bye as they close the back doors of the ambo. If you’re conscious, you’ll see me
It's like everyone on two wheels now ignores not only stop signs but traffic lights too. I see people on bikes, people on e-bikes, people on mopeds and scooters and people on giant motorcycles just going full speed through red traffic lights. It's amazing. They are going to get themselves killed.
My theory is that when they made Idaho Stops legal, it created a mentality of permissiveness about lawlessness for cyclists. No one knows what the law actuals says or means and there has no education. So a lot of cyclists probably think that their self-serving, risky behavior is legal and acceptable.
It’s just laughable anyone can say this with a straight face. Cars literally never stop at stop signs, and when they blow through red lights are a much bigger threat than bikes.
If cars ignored stop signs and red lights like cyclists and other people on two wheels ignored stop signs and traffic lights, there would literally be thousands of car accidents every single day in Washington DC.
Anonymous wrote:NW DC still failing miserably on the bike infrastructure that all world-class neighborhoods enjoy. With the improvements of W6 schools and better housing values the Hill continues to smoke you in terms of neighborhood value. Lol. Anyway, at a minimum you’re being forced to accept that no, Conn Ave is not a 4-lane highway.
What's a world-class neighborhood? And does it comprise mostly white people?
Apparently Amsterdam is a world-class bike nirvana.
Anonymous wrote:The good news for the ANCs is that now with all their new free time they can get back to their other pet issues like trying to bring weed stores to Connecticut Avenue and stacking our neighborhood with more homeless drug addicts.
But don't forget the addicts who scored vouchers as well as drugs.
Anonymous wrote:Anyone currently biking on Conn Ave today is not a typical cyclist. I've been biking nearly daily in DC for decades and am still terrified whenever I have to take Conn. The vast majority of cyclists are too scared to bike there. When there are bike lanes - which will apparently not be anytime soon - there will be many more people able to bike that way.
Bike lanes on Conn Ave are the ultimate in entitlement. Inconveniencing and slowing down traffic for tens of thousands for the benefit of a few hundred.
It's absolutely true that there are very few cyclists who use Connecticut - BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BIKE LANES! The only way to increase cycling is to make cycling safe. In the Netherlands, there is a great cycling infrastructure and cycling is widespread.
Of course, DC is not going to turn into the Netherlands, you say, because we're a car culture. True. As was Netherlands in 1971, when more than 400 children were killed in traffic accidents. It took a lot of work and many years to build safe cities there, as it will here. We should start now.
Then move to the Netherlands. And when you're too feeble to ride your bike anymore you can ask the government to euthanize you.
.
Or just move downtown where there are plenty of bike lanes and stop trying to screw up livable family neighborhoods.
What? I live in a “family neighborhood” (or at least that’s what I think you have in mind) and bike lanes are essential to protecting my children when they travel back and forth to school and activities. This is their only way to get around because they can’t drive, the bus network is pathetic, their parents are not privileged enough to have the time or the money to drive them around everywhere, and the notion of them taking rides when random strangers driving ride-shares doesn’t really appeal. How would you like them to get around? Or would you prefer them to just sit at home and pick up apart your obnoxiously idiotic claims?
They can walk.
It takes three times as long to walk as to bike, which would mean they could do very little in the way of activities.
Where do you live and where are these activities on Connecticut Avenue that they can't get to unless on a bike? How old are your kids?
Would you like a social security number as well?
The point is not hard to grasp, unless of course you know nothing about life in DC or are suffering from the cognitive dissonance associated with espousing policies that are deeply detrimental to the quality of life enjoyed by DC residents.
There is no way my kids would have been able to participate in the breadth of activities they’ve enjoyed across DC if they didn’t have bikes. We are somewhat cavalier perhaps in letting them ride on streets without protected bike lanes. But many other parents are not and I get that.
You didn't answer the question because you are probably single and have no idea what life is like with children in the k-12 range.
You’re a creep. That is why no one is answering your questions.
I didn't ask a question. Just a new person who noticed that you didn't answer a question and still haven't answered the question because you are out of touch and don't what it's like to have the demands of a family. You want to impose your selfish view on everyone just so that you can ride your bike -- and bypass other public transportations options -- to go drink your beer or latte. Something that those of us with kids are far too busy to do. And yet here you are posting on a forum filled with people with kids who just don't have time for your nonsense. If people need to get to work, there are existing bike options if they so choose. The demand isn't there and never was there.
Family guy here, not the one you have been answering with. Our kids ride, we ride, we would ride more if it were safer, which is why we support more bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue and across the city and region. We ride to kids sporting events - soccer and baseball, we ride to their music classes (no, not a stand-up Bass) and art classes. We prefer riding to any other mode because of the flexibility and exercise. Our familiy riding takes two cars off the road and frees up parking spots for those who have no other option but to drive, so drivers should be happy about our choices and support our call for a safer path for us.
+1
Anti-bike people are short-sighted idiots, to put it nicely.
Probably no better advocates against bike lanes and the bike lane advocates. Please keep doing more of what you’re doing. There will likely be several more policy victories, like removing already installed bike lanes.
Making a city activitely more hostile to bikers and pedestrians is not a “victory.” It’s actually pathetic.
They are making it more safe for pedestrians. Pedestrian interests and cyclist interests are not the same.
DP: I agree that they are not the same. This plan is going to push more bikes onto sidewalks, negatively impacting the pedestrian experience
This. I hate riding on sidewalks and always feel sheepish about it. No more.
Just resist the urge to ride like a complete a-hole and it will be just fine.
But if you insist on tearing down the sidewalk like a spandex clad cheetah screeching at everyone in “your” way, then you’re going to have problems.
DP and you're right I'll just stick to the road. As a driver please resist the urge to drive like a complete a hole tearing down ct ave and honking at every biker in "your" way. Otherwise, you'll have problems.
I don’t drive like an a-hole, so it shouldn’t be a problem.
But if you decide to keep running red lights and stop signs, maybe we’ll meet one day. You’ll be the one going into the ambulance while I’m laughing with the police, telling them how you ran a red light right in front of me and then went underneath my car. Then we’ll watch my dashcam video and laugh some more. The cops will make sure I have your name and personal info so I can pass it on to my insurance company, who will come after you for the damage your body caused to my car.
I’ll wave bye bye as they close the back doors of the ambo. If you’re conscious, you’ll see me
It's like everyone on two wheels now ignores not only stop signs but traffic lights too. I see people on bikes, people on e-bikes, people on mopeds and scooters and people on giant motorcycles just going full speed through red traffic lights. It's amazing. They are going to get themselves killed.
My theory is that when they made Idaho Stops legal, it created a mentality of permissiveness about lawlessness for cyclists. No one knows what the law actuals says or means and there has no education. So a lot of cyclists probably think that their self-serving, risky behavior is legal and acceptable.
I think the culture of lawlessness started with cyclists, but now it's spread to people on scooters and ebikes and motorcycles. It's like the traffic version of the broken windows theory. People see cyclists getting away with it, which makes them wonder why they're bothering to obey the law.
Anonymous wrote:NW DC still failing miserably on the bike infrastructure that all world-class neighborhoods enjoy. With the improvements of W6 schools and better housing values the Hill continues to smoke you in terms of neighborhood value. Lol. Anyway, at a minimum you’re being forced to accept that no, Conn Ave is not a 4-lane highway.
What's a world-class neighborhood? And does it comprise mostly white people?
Is W6 mostly white? No, it is not. Glover Park and NW are mostly white and very stodgy. Enjoy your traffic and watch out for bikes on the sidewalk!
Anonymous wrote:Anyone currently biking on Conn Ave today is not a typical cyclist. I've been biking nearly daily in DC for decades and am still terrified whenever I have to take Conn. The vast majority of cyclists are too scared to bike there. When there are bike lanes - which will apparently not be anytime soon - there will be many more people able to bike that way.
Bike lanes on Conn Ave are the ultimate in entitlement. Inconveniencing and slowing down traffic for tens of thousands for the benefit of a few hundred.
It's absolutely true that there are very few cyclists who use Connecticut - BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BIKE LANES! The only way to increase cycling is to make cycling safe. In the Netherlands, there is a great cycling infrastructure and cycling is widespread.
Of course, DC is not going to turn into the Netherlands, you say, because we're a car culture. True. As was Netherlands in 1971, when more than 400 children were killed in traffic accidents. It took a lot of work and many years to build safe cities there, as it will here. We should start now.
Then move to the Netherlands. And when you're too feeble to ride your bike anymore you can ask the government to euthanize you.
.
Or just move downtown where there are plenty of bike lanes and stop trying to screw up livable family neighborhoods.
What? I live in a “family neighborhood” (or at least that’s what I think you have in mind) and bike lanes are essential to protecting my children when they travel back and forth to school and activities. This is their only way to get around because they can’t drive, the bus network is pathetic, their parents are not privileged enough to have the time or the money to drive them around everywhere, and the notion of them taking rides when random strangers driving ride-shares doesn’t really appeal. How would you like them to get around? Or would you prefer them to just sit at home and pick up apart your obnoxiously idiotic claims?
They can walk.
It takes three times as long to walk as to bike, which would mean they could do very little in the way of activities.
Where do you live and where are these activities on Connecticut Avenue that they can't get to unless on a bike? How old are your kids?
Would you like a social security number as well?
The point is not hard to grasp, unless of course you know nothing about life in DC or are suffering from the cognitive dissonance associated with espousing policies that are deeply detrimental to the quality of life enjoyed by DC residents.
There is no way my kids would have been able to participate in the breadth of activities they’ve enjoyed across DC if they didn’t have bikes. We are somewhat cavalier perhaps in letting them ride on streets without protected bike lanes. But many other parents are not and I get that.
You didn't answer the question because you are probably single and have no idea what life is like with children in the k-12 range.
You’re a creep. That is why no one is answering your questions.
I didn't ask a question. Just a new person who noticed that you didn't answer a question and still haven't answered the question because you are out of touch and don't what it's like to have the demands of a family. You want to impose your selfish view on everyone just so that you can ride your bike -- and bypass other public transportations options -- to go drink your beer or latte. Something that those of us with kids are far too busy to do. And yet here you are posting on a forum filled with people with kids who just don't have time for your nonsense. If people need to get to work, there are existing bike options if they so choose. The demand isn't there and never was there.
Family guy here, not the one you have been answering with. Our kids ride, we ride, we would ride more if it were safer, which is why we support more bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue and across the city and region. We ride to kids sporting events - soccer and baseball, we ride to their music classes (no, not a stand-up Bass) and art classes. We prefer riding to any other mode because of the flexibility and exercise. Our familiy riding takes two cars off the road and frees up parking spots for those who have no other option but to drive, so drivers should be happy about our choices and support our call for a safer path for us.
+1
Anti-bike people are short-sighted idiots, to put it nicely.
Probably no better advocates against bike lanes and the bike lane advocates. Please keep doing more of what you’re doing. There will likely be several more policy victories, like removing already installed bike lanes.
Making a city activitely more hostile to bikers and pedestrians is not a “victory.” It’s actually pathetic.
They are making it more safe for pedestrians. Pedestrian interests and cyclist interests are not the same.
DP: I agree that they are not the same. This plan is going to push more bikes onto sidewalks, negatively impacting the pedestrian experience
This. I hate riding on sidewalks and always feel sheepish about it. No more.
Just resist the urge to ride like a complete a-hole and it will be just fine.
But if you insist on tearing down the sidewalk like a spandex clad cheetah screeching at everyone in “your” way, then you’re going to have problems.
DP and you're right I'll just stick to the road. As a driver please resist the urge to drive like a complete a hole tearing down ct ave and honking at every biker in "your" way. Otherwise, you'll have problems.
I don’t drive like an a-hole, so it shouldn’t be a problem.
But if you decide to keep running red lights and stop signs, maybe we’ll meet one day. You’ll be the one going into the ambulance while I’m laughing with the police, telling them how you ran a red light right in front of me and then went underneath my car. Then we’ll watch my dashcam video and laugh some more. The cops will make sure I have your name and personal info so I can pass it on to my insurance company, who will come after you for the damage your body caused to my car.
I’ll wave bye bye as they close the back doors of the ambo. If you’re conscious, you’ll see me
It's like everyone on two wheels now ignores not only stop signs but traffic lights too. I see people on bikes, people on e-bikes, people on mopeds and scooters and people on giant motorcycles just going full speed through red traffic lights. It's amazing. They are going to get themselves killed.
My theory is that when they made Idaho Stops legal, it created a mentality of permissiveness about lawlessness for cyclists. No one knows what the law actuals says or means and there has no education. So a lot of cyclists probably think that their self-serving, risky behavior is legal and acceptable.
I think the culture of lawlessness started with cyclists, but now it's spread to people on scooters and ebikes and motorcycles. It's like the traffic version of the broken windows theory. People see cyclists getting away with it, which makes them wonder why they're bothering to obey the law.
.
I've started to notice a number of smaller motorcycles on DC streets, but with no license plates. Do they carry insurance when they hit someone else or injure them? Or do they just zip away?
Anonymous wrote:Anyone currently biking on Conn Ave today is not a typical cyclist. I've been biking nearly daily in DC for decades and am still terrified whenever I have to take Conn. The vast majority of cyclists are too scared to bike there. When there are bike lanes - which will apparently not be anytime soon - there will be many more people able to bike that way.
Bike lanes on Conn Ave are the ultimate in entitlement. Inconveniencing and slowing down traffic for tens of thousands for the benefit of a few hundred.
It's absolutely true that there are very few cyclists who use Connecticut - BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BIKE LANES! The only way to increase cycling is to make cycling safe. In the Netherlands, there is a great cycling infrastructure and cycling is widespread.
Of course, DC is not going to turn into the Netherlands, you say, because we're a car culture. True. As was Netherlands in 1971, when more than 400 children were killed in traffic accidents. It took a lot of work and many years to build safe cities there, as it will here. We should start now.
Then move to the Netherlands. And when you're too feeble to ride your bike anymore you can ask the government to euthanize you.
.
Or just move downtown where there are plenty of bike lanes and stop trying to screw up livable family neighborhoods.
What? I live in a “family neighborhood” (or at least that’s what I think you have in mind) and bike lanes are essential to protecting my children when they travel back and forth to school and activities. This is their only way to get around because they can’t drive, the bus network is pathetic, their parents are not privileged enough to have the time or the money to drive them around everywhere, and the notion of them taking rides when random strangers driving ride-shares doesn’t really appeal. How would you like them to get around? Or would you prefer them to just sit at home and pick up apart your obnoxiously idiotic claims?
They can walk.
It takes three times as long to walk as to bike, which would mean they could do very little in the way of activities.
Where do you live and where are these activities on Connecticut Avenue that they can't get to unless on a bike? How old are your kids?
Would you like a social security number as well?
The point is not hard to grasp, unless of course you know nothing about life in DC or are suffering from the cognitive dissonance associated with espousing policies that are deeply detrimental to the quality of life enjoyed by DC residents.
There is no way my kids would have been able to participate in the breadth of activities they’ve enjoyed across DC if they didn’t have bikes. We are somewhat cavalier perhaps in letting them ride on streets without protected bike lanes. But many other parents are not and I get that.
You didn't answer the question because you are probably single and have no idea what life is like with children in the k-12 range.
You’re a creep. That is why no one is answering your questions.
I didn't ask a question. Just a new person who noticed that you didn't answer a question and still haven't answered the question because you are out of touch and don't what it's like to have the demands of a family. You want to impose your selfish view on everyone just so that you can ride your bike -- and bypass other public transportations options -- to go drink your beer or latte. Something that those of us with kids are far too busy to do. And yet here you are posting on a forum filled with people with kids who just don't have time for your nonsense. If people need to get to work, there are existing bike options if they so choose. The demand isn't there and never was there.
Family guy here, not the one you have been answering with. Our kids ride, we ride, we would ride more if it were safer, which is why we support more bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue and across the city and region. We ride to kids sporting events - soccer and baseball, we ride to their music classes (no, not a stand-up Bass) and art classes. We prefer riding to any other mode because of the flexibility and exercise. Our familiy riding takes two cars off the road and frees up parking spots for those who have no other option but to drive, so drivers should be happy about our choices and support our call for a safer path for us.
+1
Anti-bike people are short-sighted idiots, to put it nicely.
Probably no better advocates against bike lanes and the bike lane advocates. Please keep doing more of what you’re doing. There will likely be several more policy victories, like removing already installed bike lanes.
Making a city activitely more hostile to bikers and pedestrians is not a “victory.” It’s actually pathetic.
They are making it more safe for pedestrians. Pedestrian interests and cyclist interests are not the same.
DP: I agree that they are not the same. This plan is going to push more bikes onto sidewalks, negatively impacting the pedestrian experience
This. I hate riding on sidewalks and always feel sheepish about it. No more.
Just resist the urge to ride like a complete a-hole and it will be just fine.
But if you insist on tearing down the sidewalk like a spandex clad cheetah screeching at everyone in “your” way, then you’re going to have problems.
DP and you're right I'll just stick to the road. As a driver please resist the urge to drive like a complete a hole tearing down ct ave and honking at every biker in "your" way. Otherwise, you'll have problems.
I don’t drive like an a-hole, so it shouldn’t be a problem.
But if you decide to keep running red lights and stop signs, maybe we’ll meet one day. You’ll be the one going into the ambulance while I’m laughing with the police, telling them how you ran a red light right in front of me and then went underneath my car. Then we’ll watch my dashcam video and laugh some more. The cops will make sure I have your name and personal info so I can pass it on to my insurance company, who will come after you for the damage your body caused to my car.
I’ll wave bye bye as they close the back doors of the ambo. If you’re conscious, you’ll see me
It's like everyone on two wheels now ignores not only stop signs but traffic lights too. I see people on bikes, people on e-bikes, people on mopeds and scooters and people on giant motorcycles just going full speed through red traffic lights. It's amazing. They are going to get themselves killed.
My theory is that when they made Idaho Stops legal, it created a mentality of permissiveness about lawlessness for cyclists. No one knows what the law actuals says or means and there has no education. So a lot of cyclists probably think that their self-serving, risky behavior is legal and acceptable.
I think the culture of lawlessness started with cyclists, but now it's spread to people on scooters and ebikes and motorcycles. It's like the traffic version of the broken windows theory. People see cyclists getting away with it, which makes them wonder why they're bothering to obey the law.
.
I've started to notice a number of smaller motorcycles on DC streets, but with no license plates. Do they carry insurance when they hit someone else or injure them? Or do they just zip away?
Apparently a motorcycle with an electric motor is legal to ride on streets without a license plate, insurance or even a special license.
Anonymous wrote:Anyone currently biking on Conn Ave today is not a typical cyclist. I've been biking nearly daily in DC for decades and am still terrified whenever I have to take Conn. The vast majority of cyclists are too scared to bike there. When there are bike lanes - which will apparently not be anytime soon - there will be many more people able to bike that way.
Bike lanes on Conn Ave are the ultimate in entitlement. Inconveniencing and slowing down traffic for tens of thousands for the benefit of a few hundred.
It's absolutely true that there are very few cyclists who use Connecticut - BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BIKE LANES! The only way to increase cycling is to make cycling safe. In the Netherlands, there is a great cycling infrastructure and cycling is widespread.
Of course, DC is not going to turn into the Netherlands, you say, because we're a car culture. True. As was Netherlands in 1971, when more than 400 children were killed in traffic accidents. It took a lot of work and many years to build safe cities there, as it will here. We should start now.
Then move to the Netherlands. And when you're too feeble to ride your bike anymore you can ask the government to euthanize you.
.
Or just move downtown where there are plenty of bike lanes and stop trying to screw up livable family neighborhoods.
What? I live in a “family neighborhood” (or at least that’s what I think you have in mind) and bike lanes are essential to protecting my children when they travel back and forth to school and activities. This is their only way to get around because they can’t drive, the bus network is pathetic, their parents are not privileged enough to have the time or the money to drive them around everywhere, and the notion of them taking rides when random strangers driving ride-shares doesn’t really appeal. How would you like them to get around? Or would you prefer them to just sit at home and pick up apart your obnoxiously idiotic claims?
They can walk.
It takes three times as long to walk as to bike, which would mean they could do very little in the way of activities.
Where do you live and where are these activities on Connecticut Avenue that they can't get to unless on a bike? How old are your kids?
Would you like a social security number as well?
The point is not hard to grasp, unless of course you know nothing about life in DC or are suffering from the cognitive dissonance associated with espousing policies that are deeply detrimental to the quality of life enjoyed by DC residents.
There is no way my kids would have been able to participate in the breadth of activities they’ve enjoyed across DC if they didn’t have bikes. We are somewhat cavalier perhaps in letting them ride on streets without protected bike lanes. But many other parents are not and I get that.
Guess you should get a car then. Your kids could do even more that way.
You do realize that most parents in this city work, do you not? How the kids supposed to get around when their parents are at work? Do you really want them out there jacking cars?
Yeah, carjacking kids would have stopped if only they had bikes to ride instead. On that note, carjackings are down this year in some wards by as much 80 percent.
But if you had kids, you would know how school commuting works. The kids are at school for most of the work day. In Ward 3, where you are targeting, kids either go to their local walkable neighborhood public school or they go to the private schools. In both instances, there are a bevy of extracurricular programs that last until the end of the school day so parents can pick them up after work if needed. And WFH has made it easier to have the flexibility to pick up kids immediately after school.
How very sad for you. Here in W6 the kids walk or bike home themselves after school. Y’all are so retrograde.
Kids could bike to ward 3 if they wanted to, but they don't because a/they live close enough to walk and thus no need to ever go on CT Ave. Or B, they are driven by parents who drop them off on their way to work downtown, or by parents who don't work or by other caregivers. The point is the demand for bikes isn't coming from this crowd. Hardly anybody bikes their kids to school even when they live within walking distance because it's not convenient. And that has nothing to do with availability of bike lanes.
I live off Connecticut and my kids go to Eaton. We absolutely would bike to school if it were safe. It's not. At all. I know plenty of families who feel the same. And there are a bunch of families who bike and scooter to Eaton each day, but they don't have to do it down Connecticut or Wisconsin.
Kids have been walking the .5 mile down Macomb Street to Eaton just fine for 114 years. The school is bursting at the seems. So it appears to be working just fine. Now, if you put those bike lanes in you get 2000 more cars/day whizzing by little Larla. Now THAT would be dangerous.
Narrator: the lift of parking restrictions on Connecticut Avenue referenced by the acting director on Thursday means that there will only be two lanes for cars to pass through intersections at ALL times. So that 2000 more cars you are cautioning is going to happen now, but without an alternative for bikers. That means you will have one lane for parked cars, one lane for left turning cars, and cars backed up behind a cyclist in the middle lane.
Bowser's DC.
Residents don't want so many left turn lanes. Those will become open invitations and off ramps for traffic to divert into the side streets. Bad idea.
Anonymous wrote:Anyone currently biking on Conn Ave today is not a typical cyclist. I've been biking nearly daily in DC for decades and am still terrified whenever I have to take Conn. The vast majority of cyclists are too scared to bike there. When there are bike lanes - which will apparently not be anytime soon - there will be many more people able to bike that way.
Bike lanes on Conn Ave are the ultimate in entitlement. Inconveniencing and slowing down traffic for tens of thousands for the benefit of a few hundred.
It's absolutely true that there are very few cyclists who use Connecticut - BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BIKE LANES! The only way to increase cycling is to make cycling safe. In the Netherlands, there is a great cycling infrastructure and cycling is widespread.
Of course, DC is not going to turn into the Netherlands, you say, because we're a car culture. True. As was Netherlands in 1971, when more than 400 children were killed in traffic accidents. It took a lot of work and many years to build safe cities there, as it will here. We should start now.
Then move to the Netherlands. And when you're too feeble to ride your bike anymore you can ask the government to euthanize you.
.
Or just move downtown where there are plenty of bike lanes and stop trying to screw up livable family neighborhoods.
What? I live in a “family neighborhood” (or at least that’s what I think you have in mind) and bike lanes are essential to protecting my children when they travel back and forth to school and activities. This is their only way to get around because they can’t drive, the bus network is pathetic, their parents are not privileged enough to have the time or the money to drive them around everywhere, and the notion of them taking rides when random strangers driving ride-shares doesn’t really appeal. How would you like them to get around? Or would you prefer them to just sit at home and pick up apart your obnoxiously idiotic claims?
They can walk.
It takes three times as long to walk as to bike, which would mean they could do very little in the way of activities.
Where do you live and where are these activities on Connecticut Avenue that they can't get to unless on a bike? How old are your kids?
Would you like a social security number as well?
The point is not hard to grasp, unless of course you know nothing about life in DC or are suffering from the cognitive dissonance associated with espousing policies that are deeply detrimental to the quality of life enjoyed by DC residents.
There is no way my kids would have been able to participate in the breadth of activities they’ve enjoyed across DC if they didn’t have bikes. We are somewhat cavalier perhaps in letting them ride on streets without protected bike lanes. But many other parents are not and I get that.
You didn't answer the question because you are probably single and have no idea what life is like with children in the k-12 range.
You’re a creep. That is why no one is answering your questions.
I didn't ask a question. Just a new person who noticed that you didn't answer a question and still haven't answered the question because you are out of touch and don't what it's like to have the demands of a family. You want to impose your selfish view on everyone just so that you can ride your bike -- and bypass other public transportations options -- to go drink your beer or latte. Something that those of us with kids are far too busy to do. And yet here you are posting on a forum filled with people with kids who just don't have time for your nonsense. If people need to get to work, there are existing bike options if they so choose. The demand isn't there and never was there.
Family guy here, not the one you have been answering with. Our kids ride, we ride, we would ride more if it were safer, which is why we support more bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue and across the city and region. We ride to kids sporting events - soccer and baseball, we ride to their music classes (no, not a stand-up Bass) and art classes. We prefer riding to any other mode because of the flexibility and exercise. Our familiy riding takes two cars off the road and frees up parking spots for those who have no other option but to drive, so drivers should be happy about our choices and support our call for a safer path for us.
+1
Anti-bike people are short-sighted idiots, to put it nicely.
Probably no better advocates against bike lanes and the bike lane advocates. Please keep doing more of what you’re doing. There will likely be several more policy victories, like removing already installed bike lanes.
Making a city activitely more hostile to bikers and pedestrians is not a “victory.” It’s actually pathetic.
They are making it more safe for pedestrians. Pedestrian interests and cyclist interests are not the same.
DP: I agree that they are not the same. This plan is going to push more bikes onto sidewalks, negatively impacting the pedestrian experience
This. I hate riding on sidewalks and always feel sheepish about it. No more.
Just resist the urge to ride like a complete a-hole and it will be just fine.
But if you insist on tearing down the sidewalk like a spandex clad cheetah screeching at everyone in “your” way, then you’re going to have problems.
DP and you're right I'll just stick to the road. As a driver please resist the urge to drive like a complete a hole tearing down ct ave and honking at every biker in "your" way. Otherwise, you'll have problems.
I don’t drive like an a-hole, so it shouldn’t be a problem.
But if you decide to keep running red lights and stop signs, maybe we’ll meet one day. You’ll be the one going into the ambulance while I’m laughing with the police, telling them how you ran a red light right in front of me and then went underneath my car. Then we’ll watch my dashcam video and laugh some more. The cops will make sure I have your name and personal info so I can pass it on to my insurance company, who will come after you for the damage your body caused to my car.
I’ll wave bye bye as they close the back doors of the ambo. If you’re conscious, you’ll see me
It's like everyone on two wheels now ignores not only stop signs but traffic lights too. I see people on bikes, people on e-bikes, people on mopeds and scooters and people on giant motorcycles just going full speed through red traffic lights. It's amazing. They are going to get themselves killed.
My theory is that when they made Idaho Stops legal, it created a mentality of permissiveness about lawlessness for cyclists. No one knows what the law actuals says or means and there has no education. So a lot of cyclists probably think that their self-serving, risky behavior is legal and acceptable.
I think the culture of lawlessness started with cyclists, but now it's spread to people on scooters and ebikes and motorcycles. It's like the traffic version of the broken windows theory. People see cyclists getting away with it, which makes them wonder why they're bothering to obey the law.
.
I've started to notice a number of smaller motorcycles on DC streets, but with no license plates. Do they carry insurance when they hit someone else or injure them? Or do they just zip away?
Apparently a motorcycle with an electric motor is legal to ride on streets without a license plate, insurance or even a special license.
These effin' DC "progressives" are going to turn this Democrat into a Trump voter yet.
Anonymous wrote:Anyone currently biking on Conn Ave today is not a typical cyclist. I've been biking nearly daily in DC for decades and am still terrified whenever I have to take Conn. The vast majority of cyclists are too scared to bike there. When there are bike lanes - which will apparently not be anytime soon - there will be many more people able to bike that way.
Bike lanes on Conn Ave are the ultimate in entitlement. Inconveniencing and slowing down traffic for tens of thousands for the benefit of a few hundred.
It's absolutely true that there are very few cyclists who use Connecticut - BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BIKE LANES! The only way to increase cycling is to make cycling safe. In the Netherlands, there is a great cycling infrastructure and cycling is widespread.
Of course, DC is not going to turn into the Netherlands, you say, because we're a car culture. True. As was Netherlands in 1971, when more than 400 children were killed in traffic accidents. It took a lot of work and many years to build safe cities there, as it will here. We should start now.
Then move to the Netherlands. And when you're too feeble to ride your bike anymore you can ask the government to euthanize you.
.
Or just move downtown where there are plenty of bike lanes and stop trying to screw up livable family neighborhoods.
What? I live in a “family neighborhood” (or at least that’s what I think you have in mind) and bike lanes are essential to protecting my children when they travel back and forth to school and activities. This is their only way to get around because they can’t drive, the bus network is pathetic, their parents are not privileged enough to have the time or the money to drive them around everywhere, and the notion of them taking rides when random strangers driving ride-shares doesn’t really appeal. How would you like them to get around? Or would you prefer them to just sit at home and pick up apart your obnoxiously idiotic claims?
They can walk.
It takes three times as long to walk as to bike, which would mean they could do very little in the way of activities.
Where do you live and where are these activities on Connecticut Avenue that they can't get to unless on a bike? How old are your kids?
Would you like a social security number as well?
The point is not hard to grasp, unless of course you know nothing about life in DC or are suffering from the cognitive dissonance associated with espousing policies that are deeply detrimental to the quality of life enjoyed by DC residents.
There is no way my kids would have been able to participate in the breadth of activities they’ve enjoyed across DC if they didn’t have bikes. We are somewhat cavalier perhaps in letting them ride on streets without protected bike lanes. But many other parents are not and I get that.
You didn't answer the question because you are probably single and have no idea what life is like with children in the k-12 range.
You’re a creep. That is why no one is answering your questions.
I didn't ask a question. Just a new person who noticed that you didn't answer a question and still haven't answered the question because you are out of touch and don't what it's like to have the demands of a family. You want to impose your selfish view on everyone just so that you can ride your bike -- and bypass other public transportations options -- to go drink your beer or latte. Something that those of us with kids are far too busy to do. And yet here you are posting on a forum filled with people with kids who just don't have time for your nonsense. If people need to get to work, there are existing bike options if they so choose. The demand isn't there and never was there.
Family guy here, not the one you have been answering with. Our kids ride, we ride, we would ride more if it were safer, which is why we support more bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue and across the city and region. We ride to kids sporting events - soccer and baseball, we ride to their music classes (no, not a stand-up Bass) and art classes. We prefer riding to any other mode because of the flexibility and exercise. Our familiy riding takes two cars off the road and frees up parking spots for those who have no other option but to drive, so drivers should be happy about our choices and support our call for a safer path for us.
+1
Anti-bike people are short-sighted idiots, to put it nicely.
Probably no better advocates against bike lanes and the bike lane advocates. Please keep doing more of what you’re doing. There will likely be several more policy victories, like removing already installed bike lanes.
Making a city activitely more hostile to bikers and pedestrians is not a “victory.” It’s actually pathetic.
They are making it more safe for pedestrians. Pedestrian interests and cyclist interests are not the same.
DP: I agree that they are not the same. This plan is going to push more bikes onto sidewalks, negatively impacting the pedestrian experience
This. I hate riding on sidewalks and always feel sheepish about it. No more.
Just resist the urge to ride like a complete a-hole and it will be just fine.
But if you insist on tearing down the sidewalk like a spandex clad cheetah screeching at everyone in “your” way, then you’re going to have problems.
DP and you're right I'll just stick to the road. As a driver please resist the urge to drive like a complete a hole tearing down ct ave and honking at every biker in "your" way. Otherwise, you'll have problems.
I don’t drive like an a-hole, so it shouldn’t be a problem.
But if you decide to keep running red lights and stop signs, maybe we’ll meet one day. You’ll be the one going into the ambulance while I’m laughing with the police, telling them how you ran a red light right in front of me and then went underneath my car. Then we’ll watch my dashcam video and laugh some more. The cops will make sure I have your name and personal info so I can pass it on to my insurance company, who will come after you for the damage your body caused to my car.
I’ll wave bye bye as they close the back doors of the ambo. If you’re conscious, you’ll see me
It's like everyone on two wheels now ignores not only stop signs but traffic lights too. I see people on bikes, people on e-bikes, people on mopeds and scooters and people on giant motorcycles just going full speed through red traffic lights. It's amazing. They are going to get themselves killed.
My theory is that when they made Idaho Stops legal, it created a mentality of permissiveness about lawlessness for cyclists. No one knows what the law actuals says or means and there has no education. So a lot of cyclists probably think that their self-serving, risky behavior is legal and acceptable.
I think the culture of lawlessness started with cyclists, but now it's spread to people on scooters and ebikes and motorcycles. It's like the traffic version of the broken windows theory. People see cyclists getting away with it, which makes them wonder why they're bothering to obey the law.
Kind of like how everyone in a car speeds and no one gets pulled over which makes speed limits meaningless?
Anonymous wrote:Anyone currently biking on Conn Ave today is not a typical cyclist. I've been biking nearly daily in DC for decades and am still terrified whenever I have to take Conn. The vast majority of cyclists are too scared to bike there. When there are bike lanes - which will apparently not be anytime soon - there will be many more people able to bike that way.
Bike lanes on Conn Ave are the ultimate in entitlement. Inconveniencing and slowing down traffic for tens of thousands for the benefit of a few hundred.
It's absolutely true that there are very few cyclists who use Connecticut - BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BIKE LANES! The only way to increase cycling is to make cycling safe. In the Netherlands, there is a great cycling infrastructure and cycling is widespread.
Of course, DC is not going to turn into the Netherlands, you say, because we're a car culture. True. As was Netherlands in 1971, when more than 400 children were killed in traffic accidents. It took a lot of work and many years to build safe cities there, as it will here. We should start now.
Then move to the Netherlands. And when you're too feeble to ride your bike anymore you can ask the government to euthanize you.
.
Or just move downtown where there are plenty of bike lanes and stop trying to screw up livable family neighborhoods.
What? I live in a “family neighborhood” (or at least that’s what I think you have in mind) and bike lanes are essential to protecting my children when they travel back and forth to school and activities. This is their only way to get around because they can’t drive, the bus network is pathetic, their parents are not privileged enough to have the time or the money to drive them around everywhere, and the notion of them taking rides when random strangers driving ride-shares doesn’t really appeal. How would you like them to get around? Or would you prefer them to just sit at home and pick up apart your obnoxiously idiotic claims?
They can walk.
It takes three times as long to walk as to bike, which would mean they could do very little in the way of activities.
Where do you live and where are these activities on Connecticut Avenue that they can't get to unless on a bike? How old are your kids?
Would you like a social security number as well?
The point is not hard to grasp, unless of course you know nothing about life in DC or are suffering from the cognitive dissonance associated with espousing policies that are deeply detrimental to the quality of life enjoyed by DC residents.
There is no way my kids would have been able to participate in the breadth of activities they’ve enjoyed across DC if they didn’t have bikes. We are somewhat cavalier perhaps in letting them ride on streets without protected bike lanes. But many other parents are not and I get that.
You didn't answer the question because you are probably single and have no idea what life is like with children in the k-12 range.
You’re a creep. That is why no one is answering your questions.
I didn't ask a question. Just a new person who noticed that you didn't answer a question and still haven't answered the question because you are out of touch and don't what it's like to have the demands of a family. You want to impose your selfish view on everyone just so that you can ride your bike -- and bypass other public transportations options -- to go drink your beer or latte. Something that those of us with kids are far too busy to do. And yet here you are posting on a forum filled with people with kids who just don't have time for your nonsense. If people need to get to work, there are existing bike options if they so choose. The demand isn't there and never was there.
Family guy here, not the one you have been answering with. Our kids ride, we ride, we would ride more if it were safer, which is why we support more bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue and across the city and region. We ride to kids sporting events - soccer and baseball, we ride to their music classes (no, not a stand-up Bass) and art classes. We prefer riding to any other mode because of the flexibility and exercise. Our familiy riding takes two cars off the road and frees up parking spots for those who have no other option but to drive, so drivers should be happy about our choices and support our call for a safer path for us.
+1
Anti-bike people are short-sighted idiots, to put it nicely.
Probably no better advocates against bike lanes and the bike lane advocates. Please keep doing more of what you’re doing. There will likely be several more policy victories, like removing already installed bike lanes.
Making a city activitely more hostile to bikers and pedestrians is not a “victory.” It’s actually pathetic.
They are making it more safe for pedestrians. Pedestrian interests and cyclist interests are not the same.
DP: I agree that they are not the same. This plan is going to push more bikes onto sidewalks, negatively impacting the pedestrian experience
This. I hate riding on sidewalks and always feel sheepish about it. No more.
Just resist the urge to ride like a complete a-hole and it will be just fine.
But if you insist on tearing down the sidewalk like a spandex clad cheetah screeching at everyone in “your” way, then you’re going to have problems.
DP and you're right I'll just stick to the road. As a driver please resist the urge to drive like a complete a hole tearing down ct ave and honking at every biker in "your" way. Otherwise, you'll have problems.
I don’t drive like an a-hole, so it shouldn’t be a problem.
But if you decide to keep running red lights and stop signs, maybe we’ll meet one day. You’ll be the one going into the ambulance while I’m laughing with the police, telling them how you ran a red light right in front of me and then went underneath my car. Then we’ll watch my dashcam video and laugh some more. The cops will make sure I have your name and personal info so I can pass it on to my insurance company, who will come after you for the damage your body caused to my car.
I’ll wave bye bye as they close the back doors of the ambo. If you’re conscious, you’ll see me
It's like everyone on two wheels now ignores not only stop signs but traffic lights too. I see people on bikes, people on e-bikes, people on mopeds and scooters and people on giant motorcycles just going full speed through red traffic lights. It's amazing. They are going to get themselves killed.
My theory is that when they made Idaho Stops legal, it created a mentality of permissiveness about lawlessness for cyclists. No one knows what the law actuals says or means and there has no education. So a lot of cyclists probably think that their self-serving, risky behavior is legal and acceptable.
I think the culture of lawlessness started with cyclists, but now it's spread to people on scooters and ebikes and motorcycles. It's like the traffic version of the broken windows theory. People see cyclists getting away with it, which makes them wonder why they're bothering to obey the law.
.
I've started to notice a number of smaller motorcycles on DC streets, but with no license plates. Do they carry insurance when they hit someone else or injure them? Or do they just zip away?
They do not carry insurance and have zero incentive to stick around. This will only be addressed when the start plowing into the bike riders.
Anonymous wrote:Anyone currently biking on Conn Ave today is not a typical cyclist. I've been biking nearly daily in DC for decades and am still terrified whenever I have to take Conn. The vast majority of cyclists are too scared to bike there. When there are bike lanes - which will apparently not be anytime soon - there will be many more people able to bike that way.
Bike lanes on Conn Ave are the ultimate in entitlement. Inconveniencing and slowing down traffic for tens of thousands for the benefit of a few hundred.
It's absolutely true that there are very few cyclists who use Connecticut - BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BIKE LANES! The only way to increase cycling is to make cycling safe. In the Netherlands, there is a great cycling infrastructure and cycling is widespread.
Of course, DC is not going to turn into the Netherlands, you say, because we're a car culture. True. As was Netherlands in 1971, when more than 400 children were killed in traffic accidents. It took a lot of work and many years to build safe cities there, as it will here. We should start now.
Then move to the Netherlands. And when you're too feeble to ride your bike anymore you can ask the government to euthanize you.
.
Or just move downtown where there are plenty of bike lanes and stop trying to screw up livable family neighborhoods.
What? I live in a “family neighborhood” (or at least that’s what I think you have in mind) and bike lanes are essential to protecting my children when they travel back and forth to school and activities. This is their only way to get around because they can’t drive, the bus network is pathetic, their parents are not privileged enough to have the time or the money to drive them around everywhere, and the notion of them taking rides when random strangers driving ride-shares doesn’t really appeal. How would you like them to get around? Or would you prefer them to just sit at home and pick up apart your obnoxiously idiotic claims?
They can walk.
It takes three times as long to walk as to bike, which would mean they could do very little in the way of activities.
Where do you live and where are these activities on Connecticut Avenue that they can't get to unless on a bike? How old are your kids?
Would you like a social security number as well?
The point is not hard to grasp, unless of course you know nothing about life in DC or are suffering from the cognitive dissonance associated with espousing policies that are deeply detrimental to the quality of life enjoyed by DC residents.
There is no way my kids would have been able to participate in the breadth of activities they’ve enjoyed across DC if they didn’t have bikes. We are somewhat cavalier perhaps in letting them ride on streets without protected bike lanes. But many other parents are not and I get that.
You didn't answer the question because you are probably single and have no idea what life is like with children in the k-12 range.
You’re a creep. That is why no one is answering your questions.
I didn't ask a question. Just a new person who noticed that you didn't answer a question and still haven't answered the question because you are out of touch and don't what it's like to have the demands of a family. You want to impose your selfish view on everyone just so that you can ride your bike -- and bypass other public transportations options -- to go drink your beer or latte. Something that those of us with kids are far too busy to do. And yet here you are posting on a forum filled with people with kids who just don't have time for your nonsense. If people need to get to work, there are existing bike options if they so choose. The demand isn't there and never was there.
Family guy here, not the one you have been answering with. Our kids ride, we ride, we would ride more if it were safer, which is why we support more bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue and across the city and region. We ride to kids sporting events - soccer and baseball, we ride to their music classes (no, not a stand-up Bass) and art classes. We prefer riding to any other mode because of the flexibility and exercise. Our familiy riding takes two cars off the road and frees up parking spots for those who have no other option but to drive, so drivers should be happy about our choices and support our call for a safer path for us.
+1
Anti-bike people are short-sighted idiots, to put it nicely.
Probably no better advocates against bike lanes and the bike lane advocates. Please keep doing more of what you’re doing. There will likely be several more policy victories, like removing already installed bike lanes.
Making a city activitely more hostile to bikers and pedestrians is not a “victory.” It’s actually pathetic.
They are making it more safe for pedestrians. Pedestrian interests and cyclist interests are not the same.
DP: I agree that they are not the same. This plan is going to push more bikes onto sidewalks, negatively impacting the pedestrian experience
This. I hate riding on sidewalks and always feel sheepish about it. No more.
Just resist the urge to ride like a complete a-hole and it will be just fine.
But if you insist on tearing down the sidewalk like a spandex clad cheetah screeching at everyone in “your” way, then you’re going to have problems.
DP and you're right I'll just stick to the road. As a driver please resist the urge to drive like a complete a hole tearing down ct ave and honking at every biker in "your" way. Otherwise, you'll have problems.
I don’t drive like an a-hole, so it shouldn’t be a problem.
But if you decide to keep running red lights and stop signs, maybe we’ll meet one day. You’ll be the one going into the ambulance while I’m laughing with the police, telling them how you ran a red light right in front of me and then went underneath my car. Then we’ll watch my dashcam video and laugh some more. The cops will make sure I have your name and personal info so I can pass it on to my insurance company, who will come after you for the damage your body caused to my car.
I’ll wave bye bye as they close the back doors of the ambo. If you’re conscious, you’ll see me
It's like everyone on two wheels now ignores not only stop signs but traffic lights too. I see people on bikes, people on e-bikes, people on mopeds and scooters and people on giant motorcycles just going full speed through red traffic lights. It's amazing. They are going to get themselves killed.
My theory is that when they made Idaho Stops legal, it created a mentality of permissiveness about lawlessness for cyclists. No one knows what the law actuals says or means and there has no education. So a lot of cyclists probably think that their self-serving, risky behavior is legal and acceptable.
I think the culture of lawlessness started with cyclists, but now it's spread to people on scooters and ebikes and motorcycles. It's like the traffic version of the broken windows theory. People see cyclists getting away with it, which makes them wonder why they're bothering to obey the law.
Kind of like how everyone in a car speeds and no one gets pulled over which makes speed limits meaningless?
What a shock this all spiked post-2020. Pedestrian deaths as well.
Anonymous wrote:Anyone currently biking on Conn Ave today is not a typical cyclist. I've been biking nearly daily in DC for decades and am still terrified whenever I have to take Conn. The vast majority of cyclists are too scared to bike there. When there are bike lanes - which will apparently not be anytime soon - there will be many more people able to bike that way.
Bike lanes on Conn Ave are the ultimate in entitlement. Inconveniencing and slowing down traffic for tens of thousands for the benefit of a few hundred.
It's absolutely true that there are very few cyclists who use Connecticut - BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BIKE LANES! The only way to increase cycling is to make cycling safe. In the Netherlands, there is a great cycling infrastructure and cycling is widespread.
Of course, DC is not going to turn into the Netherlands, you say, because we're a car culture. True. As was Netherlands in 1971, when more than 400 children were killed in traffic accidents. It took a lot of work and many years to build safe cities there, as it will here. We should start now.
Then move to the Netherlands. And when you're too feeble to ride your bike anymore you can ask the government to euthanize you.
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Or just move downtown where there are plenty of bike lanes and stop trying to screw up livable family neighborhoods.
What? I live in a “family neighborhood” (or at least that’s what I think you have in mind) and bike lanes are essential to protecting my children when they travel back and forth to school and activities. This is their only way to get around because they can’t drive, the bus network is pathetic, their parents are not privileged enough to have the time or the money to drive them around everywhere, and the notion of them taking rides when random strangers driving ride-shares doesn’t really appeal. How would you like them to get around? Or would you prefer them to just sit at home and pick up apart your obnoxiously idiotic claims?
They can walk.
It takes three times as long to walk as to bike, which would mean they could do very little in the way of activities.
Where do you live and where are these activities on Connecticut Avenue that they can't get to unless on a bike? How old are your kids?
Would you like a social security number as well?
The point is not hard to grasp, unless of course you know nothing about life in DC or are suffering from the cognitive dissonance associated with espousing policies that are deeply detrimental to the quality of life enjoyed by DC residents.
There is no way my kids would have been able to participate in the breadth of activities they’ve enjoyed across DC if they didn’t have bikes. We are somewhat cavalier perhaps in letting them ride on streets without protected bike lanes. But many other parents are not and I get that.
You didn't answer the question because you are probably single and have no idea what life is like with children in the k-12 range.
You’re a creep. That is why no one is answering your questions.
I didn't ask a question. Just a new person who noticed that you didn't answer a question and still haven't answered the question because you are out of touch and don't what it's like to have the demands of a family. You want to impose your selfish view on everyone just so that you can ride your bike -- and bypass other public transportations options -- to go drink your beer or latte. Something that those of us with kids are far too busy to do. And yet here you are posting on a forum filled with people with kids who just don't have time for your nonsense. If people need to get to work, there are existing bike options if they so choose. The demand isn't there and never was there.
Family guy here, not the one you have been answering with. Our kids ride, we ride, we would ride more if it were safer, which is why we support more bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue and across the city and region. We ride to kids sporting events - soccer and baseball, we ride to their music classes (no, not a stand-up Bass) and art classes. We prefer riding to any other mode because of the flexibility and exercise. Our familiy riding takes two cars off the road and frees up parking spots for those who have no other option but to drive, so drivers should be happy about our choices and support our call for a safer path for us.
+1
Anti-bike people are short-sighted idiots, to put it nicely.
Probably no better advocates against bike lanes and the bike lane advocates. Please keep doing more of what you’re doing. There will likely be several more policy victories, like removing already installed bike lanes.
Making a city activitely more hostile to bikers and pedestrians is not a “victory.” It’s actually pathetic.
They are making it more safe for pedestrians. Pedestrian interests and cyclist interests are not the same.
DP: I agree that they are not the same. This plan is going to push more bikes onto sidewalks, negatively impacting the pedestrian experience
This. I hate riding on sidewalks and always feel sheepish about it. No more.
Just resist the urge to ride like a complete a-hole and it will be just fine.
But if you insist on tearing down the sidewalk like a spandex clad cheetah screeching at everyone in “your” way, then you’re going to have problems.
DP and you're right I'll just stick to the road. As a driver please resist the urge to drive like a complete a hole tearing down ct ave and honking at every biker in "your" way. Otherwise, you'll have problems.
I don’t drive like an a-hole, so it shouldn’t be a problem.
But if you decide to keep running red lights and stop signs, maybe we’ll meet one day. You’ll be the one going into the ambulance while I’m laughing with the police, telling them how you ran a red light right in front of me and then went underneath my car. Then we’ll watch my dashcam video and laugh some more. The cops will make sure I have your name and personal info so I can pass it on to my insurance company, who will come after you for the damage your body caused to my car.
I’ll wave bye bye as they close the back doors of the ambo. If you’re conscious, you’ll see me
It's like everyone on two wheels now ignores not only stop signs but traffic lights too. I see people on bikes, people on e-bikes, people on mopeds and scooters and people on giant motorcycles just going full speed through red traffic lights. It's amazing. They are going to get themselves killed.
My theory is that when they made Idaho Stops legal, it created a mentality of permissiveness about lawlessness for cyclists. No one knows what the law actuals says or means and there has no education. So a lot of cyclists probably think that their self-serving, risky behavior is legal and acceptable.
I think the culture of lawlessness started with cyclists, but now it's spread to people on scooters and ebikes and motorcycles. It's like the traffic version of the broken windows theory. People see cyclists getting away with it, which makes them wonder why they're bothering to obey the law.
Kind of like how everyone in a car speeds and no one gets pulled over which makes speed limits meaningless?
What a shock this all spiked post-2020. Pedestrian deaths as well.
When DC effectively defunds the police and stops enforcing all sorts of laws, what do you think happens? Not to mention DDOT has just cut a lot of the traffic calming budget but Bowser finds the funds to performatively repaint her "BLM Plaza" downtown.
Anonymous wrote:Anyone currently biking on Conn Ave today is not a typical cyclist. I've been biking nearly daily in DC for decades and am still terrified whenever I have to take Conn. The vast majority of cyclists are too scared to bike there. When there are bike lanes - which will apparently not be anytime soon - there will be many more people able to bike that way.
Bike lanes on Conn Ave are the ultimate in entitlement. Inconveniencing and slowing down traffic for tens of thousands for the benefit of a few hundred.
It's absolutely true that there are very few cyclists who use Connecticut - BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BIKE LANES! The only way to increase cycling is to make cycling safe. In the Netherlands, there is a great cycling infrastructure and cycling is widespread.
Of course, DC is not going to turn into the Netherlands, you say, because we're a car culture. True. As was Netherlands in 1971, when more than 400 children were killed in traffic accidents. It took a lot of work and many years to build safe cities there, as it will here. We should start now.
Then move to the Netherlands. And when you're too feeble to ride your bike anymore you can ask the government to euthanize you.
.
Or just move downtown where there are plenty of bike lanes and stop trying to screw up livable family neighborhoods.
What? I live in a “family neighborhood” (or at least that’s what I think you have in mind) and bike lanes are essential to protecting my children when they travel back and forth to school and activities. This is their only way to get around because they can’t drive, the bus network is pathetic, their parents are not privileged enough to have the time or the money to drive them around everywhere, and the notion of them taking rides when random strangers driving ride-shares doesn’t really appeal. How would you like them to get around? Or would you prefer them to just sit at home and pick up apart your obnoxiously idiotic claims?
They can walk.
It takes three times as long to walk as to bike, which would mean they could do very little in the way of activities.
Where do you live and where are these activities on Connecticut Avenue that they can't get to unless on a bike? How old are your kids?
Would you like a social security number as well?
The point is not hard to grasp, unless of course you know nothing about life in DC or are suffering from the cognitive dissonance associated with espousing policies that are deeply detrimental to the quality of life enjoyed by DC residents.
There is no way my kids would have been able to participate in the breadth of activities they’ve enjoyed across DC if they didn’t have bikes. We are somewhat cavalier perhaps in letting them ride on streets without protected bike lanes. But many other parents are not and I get that.
You didn't answer the question because you are probably single and have no idea what life is like with children in the k-12 range.
You’re a creep. That is why no one is answering your questions.
I didn't ask a question. Just a new person who noticed that you didn't answer a question and still haven't answered the question because you are out of touch and don't what it's like to have the demands of a family. You want to impose your selfish view on everyone just so that you can ride your bike -- and bypass other public transportations options -- to go drink your beer or latte. Something that those of us with kids are far too busy to do. And yet here you are posting on a forum filled with people with kids who just don't have time for your nonsense. If people need to get to work, there are existing bike options if they so choose. The demand isn't there and never was there.
Family guy here, not the one you have been answering with. Our kids ride, we ride, we would ride more if it were safer, which is why we support more bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue and across the city and region. We ride to kids sporting events - soccer and baseball, we ride to their music classes (no, not a stand-up Bass) and art classes. We prefer riding to any other mode because of the flexibility and exercise. Our familiy riding takes two cars off the road and frees up parking spots for those who have no other option but to drive, so drivers should be happy about our choices and support our call for a safer path for us.
+1
Anti-bike people are short-sighted idiots, to put it nicely.
Probably no better advocates against bike lanes and the bike lane advocates. Please keep doing more of what you’re doing. There will likely be several more policy victories, like removing already installed bike lanes.
Making a city activitely more hostile to bikers and pedestrians is not a “victory.” It’s actually pathetic.
They are making it more safe for pedestrians. Pedestrian interests and cyclist interests are not the same.
DP: I agree that they are not the same. This plan is going to push more bikes onto sidewalks, negatively impacting the pedestrian experience
This. I hate riding on sidewalks and always feel sheepish about it. No more.
Just resist the urge to ride like a complete a-hole and it will be just fine.
But if you insist on tearing down the sidewalk like a spandex clad cheetah screeching at everyone in “your” way, then you’re going to have problems.
DP and you're right I'll just stick to the road. As a driver please resist the urge to drive like a complete a hole tearing down ct ave and honking at every biker in "your" way. Otherwise, you'll have problems.
I don’t drive like an a-hole, so it shouldn’t be a problem.
But if you decide to keep running red lights and stop signs, maybe we’ll meet one day. You’ll be the one going into the ambulance while I’m laughing with the police, telling them how you ran a red light right in front of me and then went underneath my car. Then we’ll watch my dashcam video and laugh some more. The cops will make sure I have your name and personal info so I can pass it on to my insurance company, who will come after you for the damage your body caused to my car.
I’ll wave bye bye as they close the back doors of the ambo. If you’re conscious, you’ll see me
It's like everyone on two wheels now ignores not only stop signs but traffic lights too. I see people on bikes, people on e-bikes, people on mopeds and scooters and people on giant motorcycles just going full speed through red traffic lights. It's amazing. They are going to get themselves killed.
My theory is that when they made Idaho Stops legal, it created a mentality of permissiveness about lawlessness for cyclists. No one knows what the law actuals says or means and there has no education. So a lot of cyclists probably think that their self-serving, risky behavior is legal and acceptable.
It’s just laughable anyone can say this with a straight face. Cars literally never stop at stop signs, and when they blow through red lights are a much bigger threat than bikes.
If cars ignored stop signs and red lights like cyclists and other people on two wheels ignored stop signs and traffic lights, there would literally be thousands of car accidents every single day in Washington DC.
Narrator: cars ignore stop signs and stop lights with impunity and there are hundreds of car crashes every day, but since they do not involve bodily injury, they are not reported.
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