Wisconsin Ave Development Project

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Anonymous wrote:I actually think it will shrink a bit.

I do too. Especially as the schools are in decline. A lot of the growth was young families moving in - who want Sfh by the way

I don't understand when anyone says the schools are in decline. There are a fair number of families that send their kids to private schools, so the qualify of the schools doesn't really matter. DCPS enrollment has actually been increasing now for the last 3 years, and the Ward 3 schools at all levels are over-enrolled, and applications to Walls and Banneker are high as well (in fairness those come from all parts of the city).

The apartments are full of people with kids who want to be in-boundary for Ward 3 schools.

Ward 3 schools are the best in DC but not compatible with suburban schools. They have also seriously declined. The average SAT at Jackson Reed is under 1100! And yes. Those who can pay $60k for private, but not everyone can do that.

Well, we aren't talking about absolute results...the reference was to the schools declining. The SAT score you reference for Jackson Reed isn't declining...that's a fairly stable to slightly higher score vs. 5-10 years ago. Also, nobody was arguing that Whitman, Churchill, Langley, etc. aren't better schools...but again, that has been the case since forever. They also pull from a significantly wealthier and less diverse demographic.

Despite all this, the student population at Jackson Reed has been growing and it was from all in-bounds kids. They opened a brand new HS (Macarthur) because Jackson Reed is overcrowded.

Again, what is your empirical basis for the schools "declining".

Please cite a source for that assertion, thanks.

Well, where do you think I found information on the in-boundary kids at a DCPS public school...oh yeah, from the dcps website.

Jackson-Reed is now 2,153 kids with 67% in-boundary.

Wilson High School (name changed to Jackson-Reed) was 1,489 kids in 2010 and 58% in boundary.

So, there are 1,442 kids in-boundary at Jackson-Reed today vs. 863 kids in 2010.

Don't ask me to post the link...you know how to use Google just like anyone else.

Thanks, PP. No need to be so snippy and thin skinned, common to be asked for sources on this site.

Sounds like you are pretty thin-skinned...I called you out on your laziness and you are upset about it.

My anecdotal impression from my neighborhood is different than what you stated. My kids were at then Wilson a bit earlier. More families around us in the past few years seem to be going private than was true in the past. I'm a big believer in pubic schools and am glad that more local families are supporting JR, we had good experiences. Asking someone to back up an assertion is not laziness.

It's certainly possible to exchange information without personal attack.

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Anonymous wrote:I actually think it will shrink a bit.

I do too. Especially as the schools are in decline. A lot of the growth was young families moving in - who want Sfh by the way

I don't understand when anyone says the schools are in decline. There are a fair number of families that send their kids to private schools, so the qualify of the schools doesn't really matter. DCPS enrollment has actually been increasing now for the last 3 years, and the Ward 3 schools at all levels are over-enrolled, and applications to Walls and Banneker are high as well (in fairness those come from all parts of the city).

The apartments are full of people with kids who want to be in-boundary for Ward 3 schools.

Ward 3 schools are the best in DC but not compatible with suburban schools. They have also seriously declined. The average SAT at Jackson Reed is under 1100! And yes. Those who can pay $60k for private, but not everyone can do that.

Well, we aren't talking about absolute results...the reference was to the schools declining. The SAT score you reference for Jackson Reed isn't declining...that's a fairly stable to slightly higher score vs. 5-10 years ago. Also, nobody was arguing that Whitman, Churchill, Langley, etc. aren't better schools...but again, that has been the case since forever. They also pull from a significantly wealthier and less diverse demographic.

Despite all this, the student population at Jackson Reed has been growing and it was from all in-bounds kids. They opened a brand new HS (Macarthur) because Jackson Reed is overcrowded.

Again, what is your empirical basis for the schools "declining".

Please cite a source for that assertion, thanks.

Well, where do you think I found information on the in-boundary kids at a DCPS public school...oh yeah, from the dcps website.

Jackson-Reed is now 2,153 kids with 67% in-boundary.

Wilson High School (name changed to Jackson-Reed) was 1,489 kids in 2010 and 58% in boundary.

So, there are 1,442 kids in-boundary at Jackson-Reed today vs. 863 kids in 2010.

Don't ask me to post the link...you know how to use Google just like anyone else.

Thanks, PP. No need to be so snippy and thin skinned, common to be asked for sources on this site.

Sounds like you are pretty thin-skinned...I called you out on your laziness and you are upset about it.

My anecdotal impression from my neighborhood is different than what you stated. My kids were at then Wilson a bit earlier. More families around us in the past few years seem to be going private than was true in the past. I'm a big believer in pubic schools and am glad that more local families are supporting JR, we had good experiences. Asking someone to back up an assertion is not laziness.

It's certainly possible to exchange information without personal attack.

Got it...so why did you personally attack me? This is DCUM...it actually is lazy to ask someone on an anonymous forum to find information that is easily obtainable through a simple Google search.

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Anonymous wrote:I have young adult children, and they are definitely not seeking 700 square foot 1 1/2 bedroom condos. They want three bedroom townhouses under 2000 square feet for under a million. Do such homes exist? All the new townhouses I see are $2 million and 3000 square feet.

Move to Rockville? You can’t afford NWDC if that’s the case. Idk why people think the world should cater to their budget?

They can’t afford NWDC due to zoning restrictions ….

So what? Not every person is entitled to live anywhere they like.

Put another way, everyone reading this will be prohibited from living somewhere as a direct result of residential zoning restrictions. For Paul and Susan, that somewhere is FH. For Tim and Liz, that somewhere is Maui. For Bob, that somewhere is Rockville

But…equity. This is why it is happening.

Trendy buzzword. This doesn’t create equity. It creates a mess.

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To the PPs talking about no $1M townhomes..

https://www.eya.com/townhomes/bethesda-md/westbard-square

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If you build 100-200 townhouses in and near upper Wisc, they all would not be $1M plus. EYA tends to be at the higher end. If they can do it at Westbard, it can be done at upper Wisc Avenue.

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Anonymous wrote:I have young adult children, and they are definitely not seeking 700 square foot 1 1/2 bedroom condos. They want three bedroom townhouses under 2000 square feet for under a million. Do such homes exist? All the new townhouses I see are $2 million and 3000 square feet.

Move to Rockville? You can’t afford NWDC if that’s the case. Idk why people think the world should cater to their budget?

They can’t afford NWDC due to zoning restrictions ….

So what? Not every person is entitled to live anywhere they like.

Put another way, everyone reading this will be prohibited from living somewhere as a direct result of residential zoning restrictions. For Paul and Susan, that somewhere is FH. For Tim and Liz, that somewhere is Maui. For Bob, that somewhere is Rockville

But…equity. This is why it is happening.

Oh, yes. It’s all about equity and inclusion. That’s the spin from lobbyists like Trump’s national pollster who now flacks for development interests hellbent on turning NW DC and Chevy Chase into a dense vibrant urban “corridor.”

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Anonymous wrote:If you build 100-200 townhouses in and near upper Wisc, they all would not be $1M plus. EYA tends to be at the higher end. If they can do it at Westbard, it can be done at upper Wisc Avenue.

Why do people keep talking about imaginary townhomes that aren’t in any of the plans?

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Anonymous wrote:I have young adult children, and they are definitely not seeking 700 square foot 1 1/2 bedroom condos. They want three bedroom townhouses under 2000 square feet for under a million. Do such homes exist? All the new townhouses I see are $2 million and 3000 square feet.

Move to Rockville? You can’t afford NWDC if that’s the case. Idk why people think the world should cater to their budget?

They can’t afford NWDC due to zoning restrictions ….

So what? Not every person is entitled to live anywhere they like.

Put another way, everyone reading this will be prohibited from living somewhere as a direct result of residential zoning restrictions. For Paul and Susan, that somewhere is FH. For Tim and Liz, that somewhere is Maui. For Bob, that somewhere is Rockville

But…equity. This is why it is happening.

Oh, yes. It’s all about equity and inclusion. That’s the spin from lobbyists like Trump’s national pollster who now flacks for development interests hellbent on turning NW DC and Chevy Chase into a dense vibrant urban “corridor.”

Just waiting for the poster that tries to interject Trump into the conversation…there are actual Trumpists espousing replacement theory views that are against any change.

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Anonymous wrote:If you build 100-200 townhouses in and near upper Wisc, they all would not be $1M plus. EYA tends to be at the higher end. If they can do it at Westbard, it can be done at upper Wisc Avenue.

Why do people keep talking about imaginary townhomes that aren’t in any of the plans?

The ones at Westbard aren’t imaginary

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Anonymous wrote:If you build 100-200 townhouses in and near upper Wisc, they all would not be $1M plus. EYA tends to be at the higher end. If they can do it at Westbard, it can be done at upper Wisc Avenue.

Why do people keep talking about imaginary townhomes that aren’t in any of the plans?

The ones at Westbard aren’t imaginary

That’s not FH…go live at Westbard…did you even look at the topic of this thread?

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Anonymous wrote:If you build 100-200 townhouses in and near upper Wisc, they all would not be $1M plus. EYA tends to be at the higher end. If they can do it at Westbard, it can be done at upper Wisc Avenue.

Why do people keep talking about imaginary townhomes that aren’t in any of the plans?

The ones at Westbard aren’t imaginary

That’s not FH…go live at Westbard…did you even look at the topic of this thread?

lol I started the thread.

PP mentioned there are no townhomes in Bethesda/NWDC in the $1M price range and clearly there will be plenty options. This could be a good range for FH townhomes.

FH is 5 min away. It’s more or less the same area give me a break.

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Anonymous wrote:If you build 100-200 townhouses in and near upper Wisc, they all would not be $1M plus. EYA tends to be at the higher end. If they can do it at Westbard, it can be done at upper Wisc Avenue.

Why do people keep talking about imaginary townhomes that aren’t in any of the plans?

The ones at Westbard aren’t imaginary

But the ones in FH DC are.

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Anonymous wrote:If you build 100-200 townhouses in and near upper Wisc, they all would not be $1M plus. EYA tends to be at the higher end. If they can do it at Westbard, it can be done at upper Wisc Avenue.

Why do people keep talking about imaginary townhomes that aren’t in any of the plans?

The ones at Westbard aren’t imaginary

That’s not FH…go live at Westbard…did you even look at the topic of this thread?

lol I started the thread.

PP mentioned there are no townhomes in Bethesda/NWDC in the $1M price range and clearly there will be plenty options. This could be a good range for FH townhomes.

FH is 5 min away. It’s more or less the same area give me a break.

2 miles away…but sure the same area. Downtown Bethesda is closer to FH…is that the same area too?

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Anonymous wrote:If you build 100-200 townhouses in and near upper Wisc, they all would not be $1M plus. EYA tends to be at the higher end. If they can do it at Westbard, it can be done at upper Wisc Avenue.

Why do people keep talking about imaginary townhomes that aren’t in any of the plans?

The ones at Westbard aren’t imaginary

That’s not FH…go live at Westbard…did you even look at the topic of this thread?

lol I started the thread.

PP mentioned there are no townhomes in Bethesda/NWDC in the $1M price range and clearly there will be plenty options. This could be a good range for FH townhomes.

FH is 5 min away. It’s more or less the same area give me a break.

2 miles away…but sure the same area. Downtown Bethesda is closer to FH…is that the same area too?

Why are you so worked up about this buddy

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Anonymous wrote:If you build 100-200 townhouses in and near upper Wisc, they all would not be $1M plus. EYA tends to be at the higher end. If they can do it at Westbard, it can be done at upper Wisc Avenue.

Why do people keep talking about imaginary townhomes that aren’t in any of the plans?

The ones at Westbard aren’t imaginary

That’s not FH…go live at Westbard…did you even look at the topic of this thread?

lol I started the thread.

PP mentioned there are no townhomes in Bethesda/NWDC in the $1M price range and clearly there will be plenty options. This could be a good range for FH townhomes.

FH is 5 min away. It’s more or less the same area give me a break.

2 miles away…but sure the same area. Downtown Bethesda is closer to FH…is that the same area too?

Why are you so worked up about this buddy

Seems like you are worked up.