America was founded on religious freedom; why do atheists want to ban organized religion?

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Anonymous wrote:"An Iowa fight over a Satanic display reminds us: Republicans believe "free speech" is only for them"

https://www.salon.com/2023/12/12/an-iowa-fight-over-a-satanic-display-reminds-us-believe-free-speech-is-only-for-them/

Yup. They want to force their religion on the rest of us and call it “freedom”.

Nobody here cares that Nativity scenes and displays are vandalized and destroyed, why should people get upset about the fake goat nobody believes in getting vandalized?

I GAF about the defaced goat or baby jesus displays. I do care about Christian forcing their religion on me and then screaming about “religious freedom”.

Nobody is forcing anything on you. How is religion being forced on you?

Christian extremists are forcing their religious beliefs on everyone in the US.

How?

How do you help keep our country free and safe for all people to practice their religion?

It’s not free for all religions - hence why no christians have condemned the destruction of a religious monument in the Iowa state building.

Hence, not a single post in dcum history has condemned the destruction and vandalism of Nativity displays.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of us support ban religious freedom no more than we support ban on books or taking away bodily anatomy. Individual rights matter, religious rights matter.

The Bill of Rights protects freedom of speech, freedom of religion, the right to keep and bear arms, the freedom of assembly and the freedom to petition. It also prohibits unreasonable search and seizure, cruel and unusual punishment and compelled self-incrimination.

People try to ban everything specifically listed above, there is never a time our rights aren’t under attack.

Next time you see a post here that is made by someone who doesn’t respect religious rights in our country, don’t ignore it. People are operating under the erroneous assumption that religion needs to be “kept away” from the public or only can exist in a religious setting/building or private home.

Religious people are allowed and have protected rights to be religious in public.

Look at our White House- it’s a government building and it’s fully decorated for Christmas, with Christmas trees and thousands of dollars of christmas decorations.

Arent you the one saying xmas trees are secular? So technically, its just decorated up for the holidays.

But I guess youre also totally cool with the Satanic altar in the Iowa capital building? You agree that the person who destroyed this religious altar should be punished to the highest degree of the law? He did violate religious freedoms after all. He violated the constitution!

What does Satan have to do with Christmas?

Religious freedoms. Keep up, now!

So you agree that someone who destroyed a religious altar in a government building should be prosecuted to the highest extent of the law?

It just happens to be a religion you arent. You can't just protect "your" religion if you want religious freedom for all.

Why do Satanists want to put satanic altars in government buildings at Christmas? Is it how they celebrate Christmas? What does a satanic altar at Christmas signify? When did Satanists start celebrating Christmas?

Are you on the wrong thread? This thread isnt about xmas. Its about banning religion.

You are clearly avoiding the question because you dont agree with a santanic altar in a government building. You only think your special religion should get these special treatments.

The Satanic Temple makes clear that its members do not actually worship the devil nor do they believe in either Satan’s existence or the supernatural. Instead Satan is used as a symbol of free will, humanism and anti-authoritarianism.

So Satanism really isn’t a religion. Satanists don’t believe in the supernatural, they don’t believe in Satan. They believe in free will, humanism, and are anti-authoritarian.

None of those things are a religion or are religious beliefs.

So what does a Satanic altar represent, in a religious context? Satanists don’t even believe in Satan, they are putting a symbol of something they don’t believe in in public and saying what: here’s something we don’t believe in?

This is a very amusing post, where you say a religion isn't one because they don't believe the way you believe. So ironic. And you have no clue or self-awareness.

FYI, religious rights include the right to NOT believe in one, and not believing in one does not equate relinquishment of any other rights, including the right to put up a monument to your beliefs during the holiday season.

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Anonymous wrote:"An Iowa fight over a Satanic display reminds us: Republicans believe "free speech" is only for them"

https://www.salon.com/2023/12/12/an-iowa-fight-over-a-satanic-display-reminds-us-believe-free-speech-is-only-for-them/

Yup. They want to force their religion on the rest of us and call it “freedom”.

Nobody here cares that Nativity scenes and displays are vandalized and destroyed, why should people get upset about the fake goat nobody believes in getting vandalized?

I GAF about the defaced goat or baby jesus displays. I do care about Christian forcing their religion on me and then screaming about “religious freedom”.

Nobody is forcing anything on you. How is religion being forced on you?

Christian extremists are forcing their religious beliefs on everyone in the US.

How?

How do you help keep our country free and safe for all people to practice their religion?

It’s not free for all religions - hence why no christians have condemned the destruction of a religious monument in the Iowa state building.

Hence, not a single post in dcum history has condemned the destruction and vandalism of Nativity displays.

I literally did. Is whataboutism all you have? Why do you support religious freedom for christians but not others?

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Anonymous wrote:Most of us support ban religious freedom no more than we support ban on books or taking away bodily anatomy. Individual rights matter, religious rights matter.

The Bill of Rights protects freedom of speech, freedom of religion, the right to keep and bear arms, the freedom of assembly and the freedom to petition. It also prohibits unreasonable search and seizure, cruel and unusual punishment and compelled self-incrimination.

People try to ban everything specifically listed above, there is never a time our rights aren’t under attack.

Next time you see a post here that is made by someone who doesn’t respect religious rights in our country, don’t ignore it. People are operating under the erroneous assumption that religion needs to be “kept away” from the public or only can exist in a religious setting/building or private home.

Religious people are allowed and have protected rights to be religious in public.

Look at our White House- it’s a government building and it’s fully decorated for Christmas, with Christmas trees and thousands of dollars of christmas decorations.

Arent you the one saying xmas trees are secular? So technically, its just decorated up for the holidays.

But I guess youre also totally cool with the Satanic altar in the Iowa capital building? You agree that the person who destroyed this religious altar should be punished to the highest degree of the law? He did violate religious freedoms after all. He violated the constitution!

What does Satan have to do with Christmas?

Religious freedoms. Keep up, now!

So you agree that someone who destroyed a religious altar in a government building should be prosecuted to the highest extent of the law?

It just happens to be a religion you arent. You can't just protect "your" religion if you want religious freedom for all.

Why do Satanists want to put satanic altars in government buildings at Christmas? Is it how they celebrate Christmas? What does a satanic altar at Christmas signify? When did Satanists start celebrating Christmas?

Are you on the wrong thread? This thread isnt about xmas. Its about banning religion.

You are clearly avoiding the question because you dont agree with a santanic altar in a government building. You only think your special religion should get these special treatments.

The Satanic Temple makes clear that its members do not actually worship the devil nor do they believe in either Satan’s existence or the supernatural. Instead Satan is used as a symbol of free will, humanism and anti-authoritarianism.

So Satanism really isn’t a religion. Satanists don’t believe in the supernatural, they don’t believe in Satan. They believe in free will, humanism, and are anti-authoritarian.

None of those things are a religion or are religious beliefs.

So what does a Satanic altar represent, in a religious context? Satanists don’t even believe in Satan, they are putting a symbol of something they don’t believe in in public and saying what: here’s something we don’t believe in?

This is a very amusing post, where you say a religion isn't one because they don't believe the way you believe. So ironic. And you have no clue or self-awareness.

FYI, religious rights include the right to NOT believe in one, and not believing in one does not equate relinquishment of any other rights, including the right to put up a monument to your beliefs during the holiday season.

There are plenty of religions I personally don’t believe that are religions.

I just don’t see how people who don’t even believe is Satan call themselves Satanists.

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Just in case they are going to hell .. they want to drag everybody with them. Just like that vaccine pressure .. if they are poisoning themselves they want everybody poisoned so even if they are wrong then everyone is wrong as well.

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hmmm

Satanism has no place of worship, no holy texts, no holy place, no higher being.

Just people who don’t believe in anything.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of us support ban religious freedom no more than we support ban on books or taking away bodily anatomy. Individual rights matter, religious rights matter.

The Bill of Rights protects freedom of speech, freedom of religion, the right to keep and bear arms, the freedom of assembly and the freedom to petition. It also prohibits unreasonable search and seizure, cruel and unusual punishment and compelled self-incrimination.

People try to ban everything specifically listed above, there is never a time our rights aren’t under attack.

Next time you see a post here that is made by someone who doesn’t respect religious rights in our country, don’t ignore it. People are operating under the erroneous assumption that religion needs to be “kept away” from the public or only can exist in a religious setting/building or private home.

Religious people are allowed and have protected rights to be religious in public.

Look at our White House- it’s a government building and it’s fully decorated for Christmas, with Christmas trees and thousands of dollars of christmas decorations.

Arent you the one saying xmas trees are secular? So technically, its just decorated up for the holidays.

But I guess youre also totally cool with the Satanic altar in the Iowa capital building? You agree that the person who destroyed this religious altar should be punished to the highest degree of the law? He did violate religious freedoms after all. He violated the constitution!

What does Satan have to do with Christmas?

Religious freedoms. Keep up, now!

So you agree that someone who destroyed a religious altar in a government building should be prosecuted to the highest extent of the law?

It just happens to be a religion you arent. You can't just protect "your" religion if you want religious freedom for all.

Why do Satanists want to put satanic altars in government buildings at Christmas? Is it how they celebrate Christmas? What does a satanic altar at Christmas signify? When did Satanists start celebrating Christmas?

Are you on the wrong thread? This thread isnt about xmas. Its about banning religion.

You are clearly avoiding the question because you dont agree with a santanic altar in a government building. You only think your special religion should get these special treatments.

The Satanic Temple makes clear that its members do not actually worship the devil nor do they believe in either Satan’s existence or the supernatural. Instead Satan is used as a symbol of free will, humanism and anti-authoritarianism.

So Satanism really isn’t a religion. Satanists don’t believe in the supernatural, they don’t believe in Satan. They believe in free will, humanism, and are anti-authoritarian.

None of those things are a religion or are religious beliefs.

So what does a Satanic altar represent, in a religious context? Satanists don’t even believe in Satan, they are putting a symbol of something they don’t believe in in public and saying what: here’s something we don’t believe in?

This is a very amusing post, where you say a religion isn't one because they don't believe the way you believe. So ironic. And you have no clue or self-awareness.

FYI, religious rights include the right to NOT believe in one, and not believing in one does not equate relinquishment of any other rights, including the right to put up a monument to your beliefs during the holiday season.

There are plenty of religions I personally don’t believe that are religions.

I just don’t see how people who don’t even believe is Satan call themselves Satanists.

Ooh the almighty christian judge of all religions has spoken!! Better go tell the government that they should stop calling them ‘religion’ because you say so

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Anonymous wrote:Most of us support ban religious freedom no more than we support ban on books or taking away bodily anatomy. Individual rights matter, religious rights matter.

The Bill of Rights protects freedom of speech, freedom of religion, the right to keep and bear arms, the freedom of assembly and the freedom to petition. It also prohibits unreasonable search and seizure, cruel and unusual punishment and compelled self-incrimination.

People try to ban everything specifically listed above, there is never a time our rights aren’t under attack.

Next time you see a post here that is made by someone who doesn’t respect religious rights in our country, don’t ignore it. People are operating under the erroneous assumption that religion needs to be “kept away” from the public or only can exist in a religious setting/building or private home.

Religious people are allowed and have protected rights to be religious in public.

Look at our White House- it’s a government building and it’s fully decorated for Christmas, with Christmas trees and thousands of dollars of christmas decorations.

Arent you the one saying xmas trees are secular? So technically, its just decorated up for the holidays.

But I guess youre also totally cool with the Satanic altar in the Iowa capital building? You agree that the person who destroyed this religious altar should be punished to the highest degree of the law? He did violate religious freedoms after all. He violated the constitution!

What does Satan have to do with Christmas?

Religious freedoms. Keep up, now!

So you agree that someone who destroyed a religious altar in a government building should be prosecuted to the highest extent of the law?

It just happens to be a religion you arent. You can't just protect "your" religion if you want religious freedom for all.

Why do Satanists want to put satanic altars in government buildings at Christmas? Is it how they celebrate Christmas? What does a satanic altar at Christmas signify? When did Satanists start celebrating Christmas?

Are you on the wrong thread? This thread isnt about xmas. Its about banning religion.

You are clearly avoiding the question because you dont agree with a santanic altar in a government building. You only think your special religion should get these special treatments.

The Satanic Temple makes clear that its members do not actually worship the devil nor do they believe in either Satan’s existence or the supernatural. Instead Satan is used as a symbol of free will, humanism and anti-authoritarianism.

So Satanism really isn’t a religion. Satanists don’t believe in the supernatural, they don’t believe in Satan. They believe in free will, humanism, and are anti-authoritarian.

None of those things are a religion or are religious beliefs.

So what does a Satanic altar represent, in a religious context? Satanists don’t even believe in Satan, they are putting a symbol of something they don’t believe in in public and saying what: here’s something we don’t believe in?

This is a very amusing post, where you say a religion isn't one because they don't believe the way you believe. So ironic. And you have no clue or self-awareness.

FYI, religious rights include the right to NOT believe in one, and not believing in one does not equate relinquishment of any other rights, including the right to put up a monument to your beliefs during the holiday season.

There are plenty of religions I personally don’t believe that are religions.

I just don’t see how people who don’t even believe is Satan call themselves Satanists.

Oh wait, someone made a chart with colors?

Well I stand corrected then. Charts have full authority, obviously. Chart man gets to say what is a religion and what isn't.

Buddy, you better hope someone who believes in a different religion than you doesn't make a better chart.

[Anonymous]

No wonder people think of christians as hateful hypocrites, they can’t even condemn this one desecration that literally furthers the point of religious freedoms.

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Anonymous wrote:Just in case they are going to hell .. they want to drag everybody with them. Just like that vaccine pressure .. if they are poisoning themselves they want everybody poisoned so even if they are wrong then everyone is wrong as well.

You sound smart.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of us support ban religious freedom no more than we support ban on books or taking away bodily anatomy. Individual rights matter, religious rights matter.

The Bill of Rights protects freedom of speech, freedom of religion, the right to keep and bear arms, the freedom of assembly and the freedom to petition. It also prohibits unreasonable search and seizure, cruel and unusual punishment and compelled self-incrimination.

People try to ban everything specifically listed above, there is never a time our rights aren’t under attack.

Next time you see a post here that is made by someone who doesn’t respect religious rights in our country, don’t ignore it. People are operating under the erroneous assumption that religion needs to be “kept away” from the public or only can exist in a religious setting/building or private home.

Religious people are allowed and have protected rights to be religious in public.

Look at our White House- it’s a government building and it’s fully decorated for Christmas, with Christmas trees and thousands of dollars of christmas decorations.

Arent you the one saying xmas trees are secular? So technically, its just decorated up for the holidays.

But I guess youre also totally cool with the Satanic altar in the Iowa capital building? You agree that the person who destroyed this religious altar should be punished to the highest degree of the law? He did violate religious freedoms after all. He violated the constitution!

What does Satan have to do with Christmas?

Religious freedoms. Keep up, now!

So you agree that someone who destroyed a religious altar in a government building should be prosecuted to the highest extent of the law?

It just happens to be a religion you arent. You can't just protect "your" religion if you want religious freedom for all.

Why do Satanists want to put satanic altars in government buildings at Christmas? Is it how they celebrate Christmas? What does a satanic altar at Christmas signify? When did Satanists start celebrating Christmas?

Are you on the wrong thread? This thread isnt about xmas. Its about banning religion.

You are clearly avoiding the question because you dont agree with a santanic altar in a government building. You only think your special religion should get these special treatments.

The Satanic Temple makes clear that its members do not actually worship the devil nor do they believe in either Satan’s existence or the supernatural. Instead Satan is used as a symbol of free will, humanism and anti-authoritarianism.

So Satanism really isn’t a religion. Satanists don’t believe in the supernatural, they don’t believe in Satan. They believe in free will, humanism, and are anti-authoritarian.

None of those things are a religion or are religious beliefs.

So what does a Satanic altar represent, in a religious context? Satanists don’t even believe in Satan, they are putting a symbol of something they don’t believe in in public and saying what: here’s something we don’t believe in?

This is a very amusing post, where you say a religion isn't one because they don't believe the way you believe. So ironic. And you have no clue or self-awareness.

FYI, religious rights include the right to NOT believe in one, and not believing in one does not equate relinquishment of any other rights, including the right to put up a monument to your beliefs during the holiday season.

There are plenty of religions I personally don’t believe that are religions.

I just don’t see how people who don’t even believe is Satan call themselves Satanists.

Oh wait, someone made a chart with colors?

Well I stand corrected then. Charts have full authority, obviously. Chart man gets to say what is a religion and what isn't.

Buddy, you better hope someone who believes in a different religion than you doesn't make a better chart.

Pal, why don’t you make a better chart?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most of us support ban religious freedom no more than we support ban on books or taking away bodily anatomy. Individual rights matter, religious rights matter.

The Bill of Rights protects freedom of speech, freedom of religion, the right to keep and bear arms, the freedom of assembly and the freedom to petition. It also prohibits unreasonable search and seizure, cruel and unusual punishment and compelled self-incrimination.

People try to ban everything specifically listed above, there is never a time our rights aren’t under attack.

Next time you see a post here that is made by someone who doesn’t respect religious rights in our country, don’t ignore it. People are operating under the erroneous assumption that religion needs to be “kept away” from the public or only can exist in a religious setting/building or private home.

Religious people are allowed and have protected rights to be religious in public.

Look at our White House- it’s a government building and it’s fully decorated for Christmas, with Christmas trees and thousands of dollars of christmas decorations.

Arent you the one saying xmas trees are secular? So technically, its just decorated up for the holidays.

But I guess youre also totally cool with the Satanic altar in the Iowa capital building? You agree that the person who destroyed this religious altar should be punished to the highest degree of the law? He did violate religious freedoms after all. He violated the constitution!

What does Satan have to do with Christmas?

Religious freedoms. Keep up, now!

So you agree that someone who destroyed a religious altar in a government building should be prosecuted to the highest extent of the law?

It just happens to be a religion you arent. You can't just protect "your" religion if you want religious freedom for all.

Why do Satanists want to put satanic altars in government buildings at Christmas? Is it how they celebrate Christmas? What does a satanic altar at Christmas signify? When did Satanists start celebrating Christmas?

Are you on the wrong thread? This thread isnt about xmas. Its about banning religion.

You are clearly avoiding the question because you dont agree with a santanic altar in a government building. You only think your special religion should get these special treatments.

The Satanic Temple makes clear that its members do not actually worship the devil nor do they believe in either Satan’s existence or the supernatural. Instead Satan is used as a symbol of free will, humanism and anti-authoritarianism.

So Satanism really isn’t a religion. Satanists don’t believe in the supernatural, they don’t believe in Satan. They believe in free will, humanism, and are anti-authoritarian.

None of those things are a religion or are religious beliefs.

So what does a Satanic altar represent, in a religious context? Satanists don’t even believe in Satan, they are putting a symbol of something they don’t believe in in public and saying what: here’s something we don’t believe in?

This is a very amusing post, where you say a religion isn't one because they don't believe the way you believe. So ironic. And you have no clue or self-awareness.

FYI, religious rights include the right to NOT believe in one, and not believing in one does not equate relinquishment of any other rights, including the right to put up a monument to your beliefs during the holiday season.

There are plenty of religions I personally don’t believe that are religions.

I just don’t see how people who don’t even believe is Satan call themselves Satanists.

Oh wait, someone made a chart with colors?

Well I stand corrected then. Charts have full authority, obviously. Chart man gets to say what is a religion and what isn't.

Buddy, you better hope someone who believes in a different religion than you doesn't make a better chart.

Pal, why don’t you make a better chart?

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Anonymous wrote:So many posts here attack organized religion and call it evil and the source of evil in the world. People as recently as yesterday have posted they wish they could ban organized religion.

Why do these posters (atheists, anti-theists) not realize our entire country is based upon religious freedom? They are admitting openly they are in direct opposition of the express wishes of our country’s founders and our constitution and laws? Or do they realize and just don’t care?

Also, if you look at countries that limit religious freedom, you see a pattern of government control that makes said country extremely dangerous and authoritarian to live in, it’s not good. If you think organized religion is evil, why are the countries that limit or basically outlaw religion such terrible places to live?

If you are an atheist or anti- theist who thinks organized religion is evil, and you would like to ban organized religion, how do you feel about our forefathers (who thought religious freedom was extremely important) and the emphasis our laws place on religious freedom and liberty?

Freedom of speech gives you the right to be critical of religion...don't like the First Amendment?

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Religious freedom should be extended to all religions, not just to the majority religion, otherwise what's the difference between Vatican City, United States of America and Royal Kingdom of Saudi Arabia?