In most big cities violent crime is declining. In Washington the opposite is true

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Heads up if you are out on the Hill or downtown tonight, string of armed robberies

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^Columbia Heights too
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Anonymous wrote:Excellent article in the economist,"Why is America’s capital so violent?
In most big cities violent crime is declining. In Washington the opposite is true," everywhere else crime is dropping yet in DC it's increasing rapidly. 40% this year alone. Explores the possible reasons. Any one else read it and want to discuss? I think that discussing it is better than pretending that it's not happening at this point....

https://www.economist.com/united-states/2023/10/30/why-is-americas-capital-so-violent


Move then if you don’t like it. Leave.
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Anonymous wrote:Victim beaten and robbed in front of Kramer Books in Dupont this afternoon during rush hour. Assailants were armed - knives & gun.



HOW? Did no one see, call the police, intervene? This makes me want to vomit. I grew up here, had many late night nachos at Kramer books, dates there, and just browsing the shelves. Unlike most Kramer customers, I vote middle Democrat, independent or Republican for local politics. You all need to take a good look in the mirror for what your votes have done to our city. Who benefitted? Certainly not the folks you think you are helping, and definitely no one else. Change course. You can be a good person AND want sane policy on crime and social issues.


People did call the police. Multiple assailants had guns and knives and were beating someone in broad daylight. What would you have people do?


Vote differently? Vote the bums out? Vote for anyone with crime platform that isnt allenesque or with an R next to their name for city government? What do you want to do?
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Anonymous wrote:Excellent article in the economist,"Why is America’s capital so violent?
In most big cities violent crime is declining. In Washington the opposite is true," everywhere else crime is dropping yet in DC it's increasing rapidly. 40% this year alone. Explores the possible reasons. Any one else read it and want to discuss? I think that discussing it is better than pretending that it's not happening at this point....

https://www.economist.com/united-states/2023/10/30/why-is-americas-capital-so-violent


Move then if you don’t like it. Leave.


If you don't like it LOL. So basically, there are people who like crime - leave the city to them?
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Anonymous wrote:And still, nothing in this thread can coherently explain why MPD arrests nosedived and crime spiked even though crime has decreased everywhere else including cities that cut police and treated police much worse than DC.

Someone said it starts with leadership and I'm starting to think it's with the DC police union leadership.


Nope. The cops aren’t the problem here.


When arrests are massively down from where they were, and in a way that is completely disjointed from and disproportionate to budget cuts or anything else that has happened, that makes it the fault of the police.


Prior to 2017, USAO consistently prosecuted 70+% of arrests, across R & D administrations. Graves declines to prosecute up to 67% of arrests, basically inverting the ratio. It's the fault of the USA.


Lack of prosecutions is the USAO's fault. But lack of arrests is MPD's fault. Stupid of MPD to make the USAO's failing their own failing.


If the USAO's resources and bandwidth are being sucked up by J6 prosecutions then maybe the White House should help with more staffing.


Not to worry, that USAO office will have a lot more bandwidth exactly one year from today. Just hang on a bit longer.


I'm voting for Nikki Haley. I figure she will clean things up domestically and internationally. Only decent candidate on either side that I can see. Tell me differently.


I am a life long Democrat but I am voting for Haley even if I have to write her in. I am manifesting that she runs as an Independent and beats both Trump and Biden. Trump is horrific and Biden is cognitively impaired. Women are the only people who can get things done and we need some energy in the government.
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More details about the violence outside Kramers. At 4:30 had to be plenty of people around, traffic, etc. The lack of prosecution by USAO and Schwab's "kids are kids" has made them not care about witnesses.

Seems to be more and more often that even if the victim cooperates they are attacked or even shot or stabbed.

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Anonymous wrote:Victim beaten and robbed in front of Kramer Books in Dupont this afternoon during rush hour. Assailants were armed - knives & gun.



HOW? Did no one see, call the police, intervene? This makes me want to vomit. I grew up here, had many late night nachos at Kramer books, dates there, and just browsing the shelves. Unlike most Kramer customers, I vote middle Democrat, independent or Republican for local politics. You all need to take a good look in the mirror for what your votes have done to our city. Who benefitted? Certainly not the folks you think you are helping, and definitely no one else. Change course. You can be a good person AND want sane policy on crime and social issues.


You guys wanted to have your little George Floyd hysteria, treating criminals with hugs and reacharounds. This is what you get.


WTF are you talking about? You are absolutely DERANGED. We just wanted police to stop EXECUTING people on the street for the most petty of crimes like passing a sketchy $20 or selling loose cigarettes. DUBYA TEE EFFFFFF man. You are seriously screwed in the head with your "reacharounds" crap. Seriously.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Victim beaten and robbed in front of Kramer Books in Dupont this afternoon during rush hour. Assailants were armed - knives & gun.



HOW? Did no one see, call the police, intervene? This makes me want to vomit. I grew up here, had many late night nachos at Kramer books, dates there, and just browsing the shelves. Unlike most Kramer customers, I vote middle Democrat, independent or Republican for local politics. You all need to take a good look in the mirror for what your votes have done to our city. Who benefitted? Certainly not the folks you think you are helping, and definitely no one else. Change course. You can be a good person AND want sane policy on crime and social issues.


People did call the police. Multiple assailants had guns and knives and were beating someone in broad daylight. What would you have people do?


Vote differently? Vote the bums out? Vote for anyone with crime platform that isnt allenesque or with an R next to their name for city government? What do you want to do?


Easy to say, which of the Whites would have been better on crime in the mayor's race?
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This actually really shows how much the Council has hamstrung the police, in ways the neighboring jurisdiction doesn't have to deal with. And, a dangerous person was taken off the street.

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The VA driver was sentenced to 4.5 years.
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Anonymous wrote:Excellent article in the economist,"Why is America’s capital so violent?
In most big cities violent crime is declining. In Washington the opposite is true," everywhere else crime is dropping yet in DC it's increasing rapidly. 40% this year alone. Explores the possible reasons. Any one else read it and want to discuss? I think that discussing it is better than pretending that it's not happening at this point....

https://www.economist.com/united-states/2023/10/30/why-is-americas-capital-so-violent


Move then if you don’t like it. Leave.


Right. People should like crime as long as it rights some sort of social justice. Good for you.
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I hate it here.
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Anonymous wrote:Victim beaten and robbed in front of Kramer Books in Dupont this afternoon during rush hour. Assailants were armed - knives & gun.



HOW? Did no one see, call the police, intervene? This makes me want to vomit. I grew up here, had many late night nachos at Kramer books, dates there, and just browsing the shelves. Unlike most Kramer customers, I vote middle Democrat, independent or Republican for local politics. You all need to take a good look in the mirror for what your votes have done to our city. Who benefitted? Certainly not the folks you think you are helping, and definitely no one else. Change course. You can be a good person AND want sane policy on crime and social issues.


You guys wanted to have your little George Floyd hysteria, treating criminals with hugs and reacharounds. This is what you get.


WTF are you talking about? You are absolutely DERANGED. We just wanted police to stop EXECUTING people on the street for the most petty of crimes like passing a sketchy $20 or selling loose cigarettes. DUBYA TEE EFFFFFF man. You are seriously screwed in the head with your "reacharounds" crap. Seriously.


The odd thing is you both have a grain of truth. Take away the emotion/hyperbole and think about the fact that we have a crime surge in DC filling some kind of vacuum. What that vacuum is needs to be rationally addressed. Something has deteriorated to a grave extent, and it's not racist or inequitable to discuss how to create a safer society for law abiding residents and businesses. What deteriorated? How to restore order and justice?
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Anonymous wrote:Victim beaten and robbed in front of Kramer Books in Dupont this afternoon during rush hour. Assailants were armed - knives & gun.



HOW? Did no one see, call the police, intervene? This makes me want to vomit. I grew up here, had many late night nachos at Kramer books, dates there, and just browsing the shelves. Unlike most Kramer customers, I vote middle Democrat, independent or Republican for local politics. You all need to take a good look in the mirror for what your votes have done to our city. Who benefitted? Certainly not the folks you think you are helping, and definitely no one else. Change course. You can be a good person AND want sane policy on crime and social issues.


People did call the police. Multiple assailants had guns and knives and were beating someone in broad daylight. What would you have people do?


Vote differently? Vote the bums out? Vote for anyone with crime platform that isnt allenesque or with an R next to their name for city government? What do you want to do?


Easy to say, which of the Whites would have been better on crime in the mayor's race?


Mayor Bowser begged the council to not strip police funding. Begged. I don't like her and what she is doing with destroying CRE / propping up condo development bros, and so I voted for the totally reasonable Republican two terms ago-do you recall that was an option, not just the two Whites last round? However, she has tried to raise the alarm on the Councils disastrous crime moves a couple of times. Yes, she needs to be far more aggressive with them and the district and federal attorneys dropping charges and the disastrous judges we have in this city. But she's on a better side of this than those entities - they are who I am referring to when I say "vote the bums out" and "shine light on this".
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