Dr. Reid replacing school discipline with “restorative justice” ?

[Anonymous]

MAGA Trolls are going crazy in the FCPS forum. I'm done here.

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Anonymous wrote:If you vote for democrat endorsed SB, you are voting for equity and restorative justice efforts. They have made their positions on the future of FCPS crystal clear.

I don't support those efforts and will vote for anyone else.

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DP. You may think this was some self-own by PP, but "equity" has just become an excuse in FCPS for dumbing down academics and sharing less information with parents. Brabrand started out with good intentions and turned into a stooge when he became aware that's what the all-D School Board wanted; Reid has been a stooge from Day One.

To each his own. I AM voting for equity. If we're not working towards making education equitable, what's the point?!

We used to work towards making education excellent. Now we're working towards making education equitable. If education is not excellent, what's the point?

Do you think the two are mutually exclusive? If education isn't equitable, can it really be considered excellent?

Equity ignore the fact that humans are unique individuals, with different strengths, weaknesses, drive, ability, interests, family histories, mental histories, intellect and goals.

Equity works in direct contrast to excellence. They are incompatible.

NP. Agreed. Equity as it is being understood and implemented, is a push to the middle. We care about bringing people up to average, and partially accomplish this by pushing down to the average. AAP is viewed as "inequitable" because it helps students who were going to be fine anyway achieve what they are capable of. The goal becomes "fine" for everyone, which means you don't have to bother with achievement or excellence. Instead of doing the work of differentiating and teaching to different levels, we are villainizing achievement. As a result, this sort of equity is incompatible with excellence.

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Anonymous wrote:If you vote for democrat endorsed SB, you are voting for equity and restorative justice efforts. They have made their positions on the future of FCPS crystal clear.

I don't support those efforts and will vote for anyone else.

reddit.com/r/accidentallybased

DP. You may think this was some self-own by PP, but "equity" has just become an excuse in FCPS for dumbing down academics and sharing less information with parents. Brabrand started out with good intentions and turned into a stooge when he became aware that's what the all-D School Board wanted; Reid has been a stooge from Day One.

To each his own. I AM voting for equity. If we're not working towards making education equitable, what's the point?!

We used to work towards making education excellent. Now we're working towards making education equitable. If education is not excellent, what's the point?

Do you think the two are mutually exclusive? If education isn't equitable, can it really be considered excellent?

Equity ignore the fact that humans are unique individuals, with different strengths, weaknesses, drive, ability, interests, family histories, mental histories, intellect and goals.

Equity works in direct contrast to excellence. They are incompatible.

NP. Agreed. Equity as it is being understood and implemented, is a push to the middle. We care about bringing people up to average, and partially accomplish this by pushing down to the average. AAP is viewed as "inequitable" because it helps students who were going to be fine anyway achieve what they are capable of. The goal becomes "fine" for everyone, which means you don't have to bother with achievement or excellence. Instead of doing the work of differentiating and teaching to different levels, we are villainizing achievement. As a result, this sort of equity is incompatible with excellence.

Same poster. To clarify for the "MAGA trolls" accuser, I assure you I have always voted D, and don't plan to stop any time soon -- except perhaps in the next FCPS School Board election.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MAGA Trolls are going crazy in the FCPS forum. I'm done here.

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They are so irrational that it's impossible to have a real conversation about our schools. But I guess that's the point. They just want to tear it all down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you vote for democrat endorsed SB, you are voting for equity and restorative justice efforts. They have made their positions on the future of FCPS crystal clear.

I don't support those efforts and will vote for anyone else.

reddit.com/r/accidentallybased

DP. You may think this was some self-own by PP, but "equity" has just become an excuse in FCPS for dumbing down academics and sharing less information with parents. Brabrand started out with good intentions and turned into a stooge when he became aware that's what the all-D School Board wanted; Reid has been a stooge from Day One.

To each his own. I AM voting for equity. If we're not working towards making education equitable, what's the point?!

We used to work towards making education excellent. Now we're working towards making education equitable. If education is not excellent, what's the point?

Do you think the two are mutually exclusive? If education isn't equitable, can it really be considered excellent?

Equity ignore the fact that humans are unique individuals, with different strengths, weaknesses, drive, ability, interests, family histories, mental histories, intellect and goals.

Equity works in direct contrast to excellence. They are incompatible.

NP. Agreed. Equity as it is being understood and implemented, is a push to the middle. We care about bringing people up to average, and partially accomplish this by pushing down to the average. AAP is viewed as "inequitable" because it helps students who were going to be fine anyway achieve what they are capable of. The goal becomes "fine" for everyone, which means you don't have to bother with achievement or excellence. Instead of doing the work of differentiating and teaching to different levels, we are villainizing achievement. As a result, this sort of equity is incompatible with excellence.

No, it's giving all kids a chance to rise up, not just those who were identified by a couple of tests in 2nd grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAGA Trolls are going crazy in the FCPS forum. I'm done here.

+1

They are so irrational that it's impossible to have a real conversation about our schools. But I guess that's the point. They just want to tear it all down.

Wrong thread?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you vote for democrat endorsed SB, you are voting for equity and restorative justice efforts. They have made their positions on the future of FCPS crystal clear.

I don't support those efforts and will vote for anyone else.

reddit.com/r/accidentallybased

DP. You may think this was some self-own by PP, but "equity" has just become an excuse in FCPS for dumbing down academics and sharing less information with parents. Brabrand started out with good intentions and turned into a stooge when he became aware that's what the all-D School Board wanted; Reid has been a stooge from Day One.

To each his own. I AM voting for equity. If we're not working towards making education equitable, what's the point?!

We used to work towards making education excellent. Now we're working towards making education equitable. If education is not excellent, what's the point?

Do you think the two are mutually exclusive? If education isn't equitable, can it really be considered excellent?

Equity ignore the fact that humans are unique individuals, with different strengths, weaknesses, drive, ability, interests, family histories, mental histories, intellect and goals.

Equity works in direct contrast to excellence. They are incompatible.

NP. Agreed. Equity as it is being understood and implemented, is a push to the middle. We care about bringing people up to average, and partially accomplish this by pushing down to the average. AAP is viewed as "inequitable" because it helps students who were going to be fine anyway achieve what they are capable of. The goal becomes "fine" for everyone, which means you don't have to bother with achievement or excellence. Instead of doing the work of differentiating and teaching to different levels, we are villainizing achievement. As a result, this sort of equity is incompatible with excellence.

Same poster. To clarify for the "MAGA trolls" accuser, I assure you I have always voted D, and don't plan to stop any time soon -- except perhaps in the next FCPS School Board election.

Agree with you, and the pendulum has swung way too far. I basically dismiss anyone who rants about “MAGA!” Do they even realize how ridiculous and simplistic when they whine “MAGA!l about everything, and expect it’s enough for persuade me to vote for them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you vote for democrat endorsed SB, you are voting for equity and restorative justice efforts. They have made their positions on the future of FCPS crystal clear.

I don't support those efforts and will vote for anyone else.

reddit.com/r/accidentallybased

DP. You may think this was some self-own by PP, but "equity" has just become an excuse in FCPS for dumbing down academics and sharing less information with parents. Brabrand started out with good intentions and turned into a stooge when he became aware that's what the all-D School Board wanted; Reid has been a stooge from Day One.

To each his own. I AM voting for equity. If we're not working towards making education equitable, what's the point?!

You want equality of opportunity, not equity.

No, that's not what I want.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you vote for democrat endorsed SB, you are voting for equity and restorative justice efforts. They have made their positions on the future of FCPS crystal clear.

I don't support those efforts and will vote for anyone else.

reddit.com/r/accidentallybased

DP. You may think this was some self-own by PP, but "equity" has just become an excuse in FCPS for dumbing down academics and sharing less information with parents. Brabrand started out with good intentions and turned into a stooge when he became aware that's what the all-D School Board wanted; Reid has been a stooge from Day One.

To each his own. I AM voting for equity. If we're not working towards making education equitable, what's the point?!

We used to work towards making education excellent. Now we're working towards making education equitable. If education is not excellent, what's the point?

Do you think the two are mutually exclusive? If education isn't equitable, can it really be considered excellent?

Equity ignore the fact that humans are unique individuals, with different strengths, weaknesses, drive, ability, interests, family histories, mental histories, intellect and goals.

Equity works in direct contrast to excellence. They are incompatible.

NP. Agreed. Equity as it is being understood and implemented, is a push to the middle. We care about bringing people up to average, and partially accomplish this by pushing down to the average. AAP is viewed as "inequitable" because it helps students who were going to be fine anyway achieve what they are capable of. The goal becomes "fine" for everyone, which means you don't have to bother with achievement or excellence. Instead of doing the work of differentiating and teaching to different levels, we are villainizing achievement. As a result, this sort of equity is incompatible with excellence.

Same poster. To clarify for the "MAGA trolls" accuser, I assure you I have always voted D, and don't plan to stop any time soon -- except perhaps in the next FCPS School Board election.

Agree with you, and the pendulum has swung way too far. I basically dismiss anyone who rants about “MAGA!” Do they even realize how ridiculous and simplistic when they whine “MAGA!l about everything, and expect it’s enough for persuade me to vote for them?

“How ridiculous and simplistic they sound” ^^^^^^

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you vote for democrat endorsed SB, you are voting for equity and restorative justice efforts. They have made their positions on the future of FCPS crystal clear.

I don't support those efforts and will vote for anyone else.

reddit.com/r/accidentallybased

DP. You may think this was some self-own by PP, but "equity" has just become an excuse in FCPS for dumbing down academics and sharing less information with parents. Brabrand started out with good intentions and turned into a stooge when he became aware that's what the all-D School Board wanted; Reid has been a stooge from Day One.

To each his own. I AM voting for equity. If we're not working towards making education equitable, what's the point?!

We used to work towards making education excellent. Now we're working towards making education equitable. If education is not excellent, what's the point?

Do you think the two are mutually exclusive? If education isn't equitable, can it really be considered excellent?

Equity ignore the fact that humans are unique individuals, with different strengths, weaknesses, drive, ability, interests, family histories, mental histories, intellect and goals.

Equity works in direct contrast to excellence. They are incompatible.

What? No, that's exactly what equity addresses and considers.

How are equity and excellence incompatible?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAGA Trolls are going crazy in the FCPS forum. I'm done here.

+1

They are so irrational that it's impossible to have a real conversation about our schools. But I guess that's the point. They just want to tear it all down.

Wrong thread?

It's many of the threads, including this one. So irrational.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you vote for democrat endorsed SB, you are voting for equity and restorative justice efforts. They have made their positions on the future of FCPS crystal clear.

I don't support those efforts and will vote for anyone else.

reddit.com/r/accidentallybased

DP. You may think this was some self-own by PP, but "equity" has just become an excuse in FCPS for dumbing down academics and sharing less information with parents. Brabrand started out with good intentions and turned into a stooge when he became aware that's what the all-D School Board wanted; Reid has been a stooge from Day One.

To each his own. I AM voting for equity. If we're not working towards making education equitable, what's the point?!

We used to work towards making education excellent. Now we're working towards making education equitable. If education is not excellent, what's the point?

Do you think the two are mutually exclusive? If education isn't equitable, can it really be considered excellent?

Equity ignore the fact that humans are unique individuals, with different strengths, weaknesses, drive, ability, interests, family histories, mental histories, intellect and goals.

Equity works in direct contrast to excellence. They are incompatible.

NP. Agreed. Equity as it is being understood and implemented, is a push to the middle. We care about bringing people up to average, and partially accomplish this by pushing down to the average. AAP is viewed as "inequitable" because it helps students who were going to be fine anyway achieve what they are capable of. The goal becomes "fine" for everyone, which means you don't have to bother with achievement or excellence. Instead of doing the work of differentiating and teaching to different levels, we are villainizing achievement. As a result, this sort of equity is incompatible with excellence.

No, it's giving all kids a chance to rise up, not just those who were identified by a couple of tests in 2nd grade.

+1 equity is a threat when you're used to having all the advantages your entire life and now that's being threated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAGA Trolls are going crazy in the FCPS forum. I'm done here.

+1

They are so irrational that it's impossible to have a real conversation about our schools. But I guess that's the point. They just want to tear it all down.

Wrong thread?

It's many of the threads, including this one. So irrational.

Please. This thread is about restorative justice - there is no "tear it down" on this thread.

Who is engaging in hyperbole? That would be you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you vote for democrat endorsed SB, you are voting for equity and restorative justice efforts. They have made their positions on the future of FCPS crystal clear.

I don't support those efforts and will vote for anyone else.

reddit.com/r/accidentallybased

DP. You may think this was some self-own by PP, but "equity" has just become an excuse in FCPS for dumbing down academics and sharing less information with parents. Brabrand started out with good intentions and turned into a stooge when he became aware that's what the all-D School Board wanted; Reid has been a stooge from Day One.

To each his own. I AM voting for equity. If we're not working towards making education equitable, what's the point?!

We used to work towards making education excellent. Now we're working towards making education equitable. If education is not excellent, what's the point?

Do you think the two are mutually exclusive? If education isn't equitable, can it really be considered excellent?

Equity ignore the fact that humans are unique individuals, with different strengths, weaknesses, drive, ability, interests, family histories, mental histories, intellect and goals.

Equity works in direct contrast to excellence. They are incompatible.

NP. Agreed. Equity as it is being understood and implemented, is a push to the middle. We care about bringing people up to average, and partially accomplish this by pushing down to the average. AAP is viewed as "inequitable" because it helps students who were going to be fine anyway achieve what they are capable of. The goal becomes "fine" for everyone, which means you don't have to bother with achievement or excellence. Instead of doing the work of differentiating and teaching to different levels, we are villainizing achievement. As a result, this sort of equity is incompatible with excellence.

No, it's giving all kids a chance to rise up, not just those who were identified by a couple of tests in 2nd grade.

Then why are gen ed classes increasingly dumbed down? No homework, no reading assignments, low expectations. No one rises up like that. But it's equitable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAGA Trolls are going crazy in the FCPS forum. I'm done here.

+1

They are so irrational that it's impossible to have a real conversation about our schools. But I guess that's the point. They just want to tear it all down.

Wrong thread?

It's many of the threads, including this one. So irrational.

Please. This thread is about restorative justice - there is no "tear it down" on this thread.

Who is engaging in hyperbole? That would be you.

Stopping all serious conversation with hysterics and political propaganda is one way of tearing it down.

Republicans don't want to fix anything. They just want chaos.