So it’s 22% tips now

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just went out this weekend with the whole fam. There was 11 of us. They included a 20 automatic gratuity of 20 percent - 90 dollars. I paid the bill and added another 30.

That’s what nice people do.


This actually raises an interesting point, which is that some customers are much harder to deal with than others. Like a big group of 11 is a PITA for most restaurants. Same with a huge take out order, or ordering with lots of substitutions, or going out with multiple small kids who can't sit still and are noisy.

In those cases, I do think tipping extra is the "nice" thing to do because you are creating extra work for the people there, likely making it harder for them to serve other customers, and just causing additional stress. Having self-awareness about that is good.

But I don't think you need to tip 50% (or even 25% or 22%) if you are just going out to dinner with your spouse or a friend, and ordering off the menu and being polite and patient and causing no problems for them whatsoever. Like OF COURSE the party of 11 should tip more. But that shouldn't be the standard for the quiet party of two at the next table. They don't need to tip extra to be "nice." They are already nice in that they aren't asking for anything more than standard service.


+1. 20% is currently the standard for good service. Above and beyond is additional.


Tell that to the cheap ass poster who inflicts her kids on the server and then under tíos. So far as I’m concerned, a table with kids is almost by definition “harder to deal with.”



You can tip 50%, it your money. Just don't tell others what to do. I think everyone is comfortable with their tipping habits.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just went out this weekend with the whole fam. There was 11 of us. They included a 20 automatic gratuity of 20 percent - 90 dollars. I paid the bill and added another 30.

That’s what nice people do.


Why only 30? Really nice people add 50. Wouldn’t you rather be really nice?


The bill with 20 percent gratuity added was $570 so I rounded up to $600. About a 27 percent tip. That’s pretty typical for us.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just went out this weekend with the whole fam. There was 11 of us. They included a 20 automatic gratuity of 20 percent - 90 dollars. I paid the bill and added another 30.

That’s what nice people do.


Why only 30? Really nice people add 50. Wouldn’t you rather be really nice?


The bill with 20 percent gratuity added was $570 so I rounded up to $600. About a 27 percent tip. That’s pretty typical for us.


Why stop there?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just went out this weekend with the whole fam. There was 11 of us. They included a 20 automatic gratuity of 20 percent - 90 dollars. I paid the bill and added another 30.

That’s what nice people do.


This actually raises an interesting point, which is that some customers are much harder to deal with than others. Like a big group of 11 is a PITA for most restaurants. Same with a huge take out order, or ordering with lots of substitutions, or going out with multiple small kids who can't sit still and are noisy.

In those cases, I do think tipping extra is the "nice" thing to do because you are creating extra work for the people there, likely making it harder for them to serve other customers, and just causing additional stress. Having self-awareness about that is good.

But I don't think you need to tip 50% (or even 25% or 22%) if you are just going out to dinner with your spouse or a friend, and ordering off the menu and being polite and patient and causing no problems for them whatsoever. Like OF COURSE the party of 11 should tip more. But that shouldn't be the standard for the quiet party of two at the next table. They don't need to tip extra to be "nice." They are already nice in that they aren't asking for anything more than standard service.


+1. 20% is currently the standard for good service. Above and beyond is additional.


Tell that to the cheap ass poster who inflicts her kids on the server and then under tíos. So far as I’m concerned, a table with kids is almost by definition “harder to deal with.”



You can tip 50%, it your money. Just don't tell others what to do. I think everyone is comfortable with their tipping habits.


You’re right. I can’t “tell others what to do.” But I can call out a cheap ass when I see one.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just went out this weekend with the whole fam. There was 11 of us. They included a 20 automatic gratuity of 20 percent - 90 dollars. I paid the bill and added another 30.

That’s what nice people do.


Why only 30? Really nice people add 50. Wouldn’t you rather be really nice?


The bill with 20 percent gratuity added was $570 so I rounded up to $600. About a 27 percent tip. That’s pretty typical for us.


Why stop there?


I don’t always.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just went out this weekend with the whole fam. There was 11 of us. They included a 20 automatic gratuity of 20 percent - 90 dollars. I paid the bill and added another 30.

That’s what nice people do.


This actually raises an interesting point, which is that some customers are much harder to deal with than others. Like a big group of 11 is a PITA for most restaurants. Same with a huge take out order, or ordering with lots of substitutions, or going out with multiple small kids who can't sit still and are noisy.

In those cases, I do think tipping extra is the "nice" thing to do because you are creating extra work for the people there, likely making it harder for them to serve other customers, and just causing additional stress. Having self-awareness about that is good.

But I don't think you need to tip 50% (or even 25% or 22%) if you are just going out to dinner with your spouse or a friend, and ordering off the menu and being polite and patient and causing no problems for them whatsoever. Like OF COURSE the party of 11 should tip more. But that shouldn't be the standard for the quiet party of two at the next table. They don't need to tip extra to be "nice." They are already nice in that they aren't asking for anything more than standard service.


+1. 20% is currently the standard for good service. Above and beyond is additional.


Tell that to the cheap ass poster who inflicts her kids on the server and then under tíos. So far as I’m concerned, a table with kids is almost by definition “harder to deal with.”



You can tip 50%, it your money. Just don't tell others what to do. I think everyone is comfortable with their tipping habits.


You’re right. I can’t “tell others what to do.” But I can call out a cheap ass when I see one.


What does that accomplish exactly? It's an anonymous forum.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just went out this weekend with the whole fam. There was 11 of us. They included a 20 automatic gratuity of 20 percent - 90 dollars. I paid the bill and added another 30.

That’s what nice people do.


Why only 30? Really nice people add 50. Wouldn’t you rather be really nice?


The bill with 20 percent gratuity added was $570 so I rounded up to $600. About a 27 percent tip. That’s pretty typical for us.


Why stop there?


+1
27 percent tip for a party of 11 does not seem 'nice' at all.
Anonymous
17 pages of nonsense. it changed no-one's mind.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just went out this weekend with the whole fam. There was 11 of us. They included a 20 automatic gratuity of 20 percent - 90 dollars. I paid the bill and added another 30.

That’s what nice people do.


Why only 30? Really nice people add 50. Wouldn’t you rather be really nice?


The bill with 20 percent gratuity added was $570 so I rounded up to $600. About a 27 percent tip. That’s pretty typical for us.


Why stop there?


+1
27 percent tip for a party of 11 does not seem 'nice' at all.


DP here. A $120 tip for 90 minutes work sounds pretty good to me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just went out this weekend with the whole fam. There was 11 of us. They included a 20 automatic gratuity of 20 percent - 90 dollars. I paid the bill and added another 30.

That’s what nice people do.


Why only 30? Really nice people add 50. Wouldn’t you rather be really nice?


The bill with 20 percent gratuity added was $570 so I rounded up to $600. About a 27 percent tip. That’s pretty typical for us.


Why stop there?


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just went out this weekend with the whole fam. There was 11 of us. They included a 20 automatic gratuity of 20 percent - 90 dollars. I paid the bill and added another 30.

That’s what nice people do.


This actually raises an interesting point, which is that some customers are much harder to deal with than others. Like a big group of 11 is a PITA for most restaurants. Same with a huge take out order, or ordering with lots of substitutions, or going out with multiple small kids who can't sit still and are noisy.

In those cases, I do think tipping extra is the "nice" thing to do because you are creating extra work for the people there, likely making it harder for them to serve other customers, and just causing additional stress. Having self-awareness about that is good.

But I don't think you need to tip 50% (or even 25% or 22%) if you are just going out to dinner with your spouse or a friend, and ordering off the menu and being polite and patient and causing no problems for them whatsoever. Like OF COURSE the party of 11 should tip more. But that shouldn't be the standard for the quiet party of two at the next table. They don't need to tip extra to be "nice." They are already nice in that they aren't asking for anything more than standard service.


+1. 20% is currently the standard for good service. Above and beyond is additional.


Tell that to the cheap ass poster who inflicts her kids on the server and then under tíos. So far as I’m concerned, a table with kids is almost by definition “harder to deal with.”



You can tip 50%, it your money. Just don't tell others what to do. I think everyone is comfortable with their tipping habits.


You’re right. I can’t “tell others what to do.” But I can call out a cheap ass when I see one.


DP. I guess the PP would rather be a cheapass than a dumbass!
Anonymous
The odd thing about the concept of tipping is that it’s often not proportionate to the amount of work. If I order a bottle of house wine for $40 then the 20% tip amounts to $5 but if I order a $100 bottle, it’s $20. Similarly. If I order the salad for $18, it’s a lot less than the $40 swordfish. For the server, it’s no more work.
Anonymous
Tipping should be according to quality of service provided and consumer's financial ability to be charitable, not according to some forced mandatory % ransom or social judgment.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:just do 15 and be done with it. 0 for carry outs. i refuse to buy into this crazy tip-sh*t culture we are in


+1
Ridiculous! When I'm prompted I hit no tip. I still consider 15% decent and 20% good. If they want more then that, they need a better job. Once the employers have a hard time with staffing they will raise wages. It's called capitalism.


To raise wages they’ll raise prices, and by more than the tipped amount because it will be taxed more. But if you’d rather pay more overall just not as tips, have at it!


Yes, you’re right that is also capitalism. When prices get too high, I have the option to not have whatever service they are offering. When prices reach equilibrium, everything is sustainable. So, yes, I would rather have that than a tip shaming culture. 15% it is from me!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There are now tip options when you pay at the airport gift/sundry shop. So we can pay $10 for a bag of chips at the register and opt to give a 10, 15 or 20% tip o top of that.


Yes, and my personal favorite is the “no thank you” button. Like I’m supposed to thank them for taking my money?
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