"No Labels" Party

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Anonymous wrote:Rather than a third party, which has zero chance of winning under our current system, we should be advocating for ranked choice voting and publicly funded campaigns. Much more effective.

Ahh but you see that’s the tell. They’re never interested in the hard work of working for political changes like ranked choice voting and I have never once heard these IdEaLiStS (Republicans) so much as mention getting money out of politics (though they do like to mention BoTh PaRtIeS and money a lot), nor have they and their big “ShAkE iT uP!” ideologies want to put in the work to build a new party from the ground up, it’s always “we’re gonna fix every systemic problem in politics with this one weird trick both parties hate!”

Both parties don’t hate this one weird trick. The GOP has used this as a weapon for 20 years. Say it with me: Nader, Nader, Sanders/Stein.

Alaskan voters approved ranked choice voting and the state Republican Party went nuts against it once they realized moderates would get elected:

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/3624553-republicans-rage-against-ranked-choice-voting-after-alaska-election/

See? They want their entrenched power.

[Anonymous]

And yet it was the democrats who routinely support IRV. GOP routinely opposes it.

(and I have no idea why the DC Election Commission is opposing it since most voters in DC, a democratic city, support it)

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Anonymous wrote:I guess it’s fun to have a breezy and pithy attitude when your health isn’t at stake.
Bully for you.

This is what I’m saying as I call every single “moderate” and “independent” and “I voted Democrat but” voter on a Republican. We can still get our country back on track and off this weird medieval-but-with-cell-phones thing that regressives want, but if too many would be Democratic voters peel off “because both parties should implode” (seriously effed up and stupid take, PP) and vote third party, we’re done. The GOP has got to be beat all the way back to such a place of loss that they drop the extremism and stupidity that has hallmarked that party for years.

Why shouldn’t we want better than the grotesque parties we have now? We need a serious realignment, and at least 3 strong parties to keep things balanced.

The money and power around DC has no desire for a political realignment and certainly no desire for a viable 3rd party. Self preservation is the strongest of human instincts. You will be shouted down for such thoughts in a DC metro political thread. It is what it is.

I’ve lived here long enough to know this. Its always party before the people. Look and sound busy, but don’t really change much.

I've had this same experience

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And yet it was the democrats who routinely support IRV. GOP routinely opposes it.

(and I have no idea why the DC Election Commission is opposing it since most voters in DC, a democratic city, support it)

Because of the shifting racial demographics in the District, plus the change in policies that come from those shifts. Moving to IRV will likely mean the division of the African-American voting bloc, more white Democrats elected to office, and likely more "moderate" policies.

Lots of the current policy positions of the DC government are focused on dealing with African-American poverty. That will likely change with the introduction of IRV.

The current DC Democrats have been able to hold off IRV by being relatively good fiscal stewards of the District. But a rise in crime or a big hike in taxes will likely force a change.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I guess it’s fun to have a breezy and pithy attitude when your health isn’t at stake.
Bully for you.

This is what I’m saying as I call every single “moderate” and “independent” and “I voted Democrat but” voter on a Republican. We can still get our country back on track and off this weird medieval-but-with-cell-phones thing that regressives want, but if too many would be Democratic voters peel off “because both parties should implode” (seriously effed up and stupid take, PP) and vote third party, we’re done. The GOP has got to be beat all the way back to such a place of loss that they drop the extremism and stupidity that has hallmarked that party for years.

Why shouldn’t we want better than the grotesque parties we have now? We need a serious realignment, and at least 3 strong parties to keep things balanced.

The money and power around DC has no desire for a political realignment and certainly no desire for a viable 3rd party. Self preservation is the strongest of human instincts. You will be shouted down for such thoughts in a DC metro political thread. It is what it is.

It is more about reality. Right now, there are two parties and the choice is the authoritarianism embraced by Trump and the GOP or the Democrats. Anthing that isn't a vote for the democrats is a vote for Trumpism. So sure, if you want to live in a Christo-Fascist authoritarian state where women are incubators and we are aligned with Russia and against actual freedoms, then stay home, vote 3rd party or vote for Trump.

There’s most Americans on one side and partisans from both major parties on the other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess it’s fun to have a breezy and pithy attitude when your health isn’t at stake.
Bully for you.

This is what I’m saying as I call every single “moderate” and “independent” and “I voted Democrat but” voter on a Republican. We can still get our country back on track and off this weird medieval-but-with-cell-phones thing that regressives want, but if too many would be Democratic voters peel off “because both parties should implode” (seriously effed up and stupid take, PP) and vote third party, we’re done. The GOP has got to be beat all the way back to such a place of loss that they drop the extremism and stupidity that has hallmarked that party for years.

Why shouldn’t we want better than the grotesque parties we have now? We need a serious realignment, and at least 3 strong parties to keep things balanced.

The money and power around DC has no desire for a political realignment and certainly no desire for a viable 3rd party. Self preservation is the strongest of human instincts. You will be shouted down for such thoughts in a DC metro political thread. It is what it is.

It is more about reality. Right now, there are two parties and the choice is the authoritarianism embraced by Trump and the GOP or the Democrats. Anthing that isn't a vote for the democrats is a vote for Trumpism. So sure, if you want to live in a Christo-Fascist authoritarian state where women are incubators and we are aligned with Russia and against actual freedoms, then stay home, vote 3rd party or vote for Trump.

There’s most Americans on one side and partisans from both major parties on the other.

Then "most Americans" will have to choose the future of our republic, because if Trump wins, it will likely end what we have known for the past 250 years.

[Anonymous]

In 2024, candidates better have a "pro choice" label or they can kiss swing state success good bye. 2024 will be about the opposite of no labels. Take a stand for women's rights or lose.

[Anonymous]

Im more interested in the Forward party that the No Labels party.

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Anonymous wrote:Im more interested in the Forward party that the No Labels party.

I like that! Sounds progressive and inclusive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Im more interested in the Forward party that the No Labels party.

I like that! Sounds progressive and inclusive.

Founded by Andrew Yang and others.

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Anonymous wrote:Im more interested in the Forward party that the No Labels party.

I like that! Sounds progressive and inclusive.

Founded by Andrew Yang and others.

For more info on the Forward Party (which I believe is better than No Labels), see https://home.forwardparty.com/faq

As for any third party being a spoiler they say this “The system is already spoiled. Over 70% of elected positions have only one candidate competing for them, and the two major parties have shut out competition. We’ll fix that by bringing choice back to the American people, including through electoral reforms like ranked-choice voting and open primaries.”

[Anonymous]

Vote for Forward Party puts Trump in office. May as well be the Leopards Eating Faces Party.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Vote for Forward Party puts Trump in office. May as well be the Leopards Eating Faces Party.

+1

What progress do you FoRwArD voters think you’ll get from them, RFK Jr or No Labels?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Im more interested in the Forward party that the No Labels party.

I like that! Sounds progressive and inclusive.

Founded by Andrew Yang and others.

For more info on the Forward Party (which I believe is better than No Labels), see https://home.forwardparty.com/faq

As for any third party being a spoiler they say this “The system is already spoiled. Over 70% of elected positions have only one candidate competing for them, and the two major parties have shut out competition. We’ll fix that by bringing choice back to the American people, including through electoral reforms like ranked-choice voting and open primaries.”

Joel Searby, Forward's National Director, said that the party does not plan on taking positions on controversial issues such as guns and abortion; instead they will leave those issues up to candidates and state and local chapters to decide.


So they won't take position on critical controversial issues that matter greatly to the people of this country that will drive the outcome of the next election. Why waste time with such weakness and lack of courage?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Vote for Forward Party puts Trump in office. May as well be the Leopards Eating Faces Party.

You clearly have not read their plan. Keep eating your face.