Why is it so hard to accept that the students at better colleges are simply better students?
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Anonymous
On-campus recruiting is done more often at elite schools because it's more efficient (higher concentration of skilled workers), but they're smart enough to realize that the total number of desirable applicants at non-elite colleges far outweighs the number at elite schools. The former may need to be more proactive in their job searches, although there's plenty of OCR happening at non-elites, too. |
Anonymous
It's the college forum, of course entry level jobs are going to be most relevant. Anyway, I'm going out to volunteer for all those poor Harvard students who go homeless because one FAANG manager you allegedly know hires GMU grads over them. GMU, which famously has a higher average salary than Princeton. |
Anonymous
Fine. OCR is on-campus recruiting. It’s done by FAANG at a variety of universities, both elite and non-elite, though FAANG has been quietly slashing their OCR programs for years, so it’s less and less relevant. At the undergraduate level, it is used to fill entry-level jobs. Many if not most of those jobs are dead-end. For instance, Google used to (and maybe still does) use OCR to fill their entry-level administrative assistant jobs because they could get large batches of students at once, so it was an efficient way to get a lot of people interviewed. The exception is as originally noted: CMU, MIT, and I would add Stanford CS to that list. But for the most part, the person who asked about OCR clearly knows very little about either FAANG or the reality of OCR. OCR at the graduate level is entirely different than undergraduate OCR, but graduate level OCR is targeted to specific departments known to produce the skills that FAANG wants. Undergrad degree is largely irrelevant to graduate OCR. Graduate OCR is focused on internships and those jobs are not dead-end or low-skill. In all cases, for actual engineering and non-dead-end jobs at FAANG, you have to typically show code or technical expertise. That’s done online, and increasingly outside of the OCR process entirely. This thread makes a lot more sense when you realize that it’s filled with people who only have entry-level job experience and no FAANG experience. They don’t understand the reality of hiring. |
Anonymous
Did you know the majority of Harvard students come from public s high chools? It's true, something like 63%. It's also misleading, because way more than 63% of the potential applicant pool goes to public schools. Similarly, are most FAANG hires from state schools? I would guess so! But the elites (including both Harvard/Princeton and MIT/Caltech type schools) are overrepresented. Are elite engineering schools like MIT more favored than elite liberal arts schools like Yale? Probably! But there are a lot of spots two go around. This isn't boutique finance, these are large mass companies. |
Anonymous
And if they are smart, they will continue to balk and choose to attend somewhere affordable. No school is worth going into major debt for. Top students can find a great school that is affordable---and when they are 25 and have no/minimal student loans they will be thankful. |
Anonymous
For what it's worth (not much), he likely would have been rejected even if that semester was perfect as well. |