Race in college admissions is back in front of the Supreme Court Oral Argument on Oct. 31 (Monday)
![[Post New]](/jforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif){kind=icon}
Anonymous
Every individual should be treated equally as an individual regardless of skin color. If not, that's real discrimination there. |
Anonymous
What kind of person thinks and says stuff like this? Hmm… |
Anonymous
What does this even mean? Asian students are over represented at every T20 school. Where is the discrimination? |
Anonymous
Right first large-scale immigration of Asians into the U.S. started in 1848. Since then, there have been non-stop discrimination against Asians. |
Anonymous
"Race discrimination involves treating someone (an applicant or employee) unfavorably because he/she is of a certain race" https://www.eeoc.gov/racecolor-discrimination It's a matter of individuals. It doesn't meant that 'there is enough representation, so we can discriminate these individuals'. |
Anonymous
Plus, historically, they have suffered a lot more discrimination in this country than Hispanics. |
Anonymous
| Fighting about degrees of discrimination isn't helpful. Unfortunately, all racial minority groups have clearly suffered unacceptable discrimination in the US. Regardless of how people feel about affirmative action, we should agree on that. |
Anonymous
|
We’ll let’s see.
We have white, Black, and Hispanic Supreme Court justices debating whether Asians are actually discriminated against and if affirmative action that benefits Blacks and Hispanics could be problematic. Where is that Asian Supreme Court justice’s voice in the matter…. Oh wait. |
Anonymous
I think Asian is now promoted to White. |
Anonymous
Yes. This is just what the white supremacists who brought and paid for this suit want. They want infighting among various non-white groups. This suit is not about Asian Americans. They are pawns being used by white folks who have been trying for years to end affirmative action. Let’s be real about this. |
Anonymous
but it won't stop the illegals from South America, and they will want proportional representation. 
|
Anonymous
I'm guessing PP's point was that statistical disparities are one kind of evidence of discriminatory practices (disparate impact), and that there won't be such evidence here vis a vis Asian Americans. There are other kinds of evidence possible, of course. I don't think the question before the court is direct evidence individual discrimination though, it seems that the question before the court is whether, in the face of actual disparate impact at a given university impact for a given race (hispanic, for example) the university may consider race as one factor to remedy the existing disparity. For example, if a University found that Asian Americans were under represented in the school population, could they consider race as a factor in admission with the goal of increasing that representation in the classroom. |
Anonymous
"Of 35,000 applicants competing for 1,600 spots in the class of 2019, 2,700 had perfect verbal SAT scores; 3,400 had perfect math SAT scores; more than 8,000 had perfect GPAs." From the facts in the actual case. Now what? |
Anonymous
But that are the scores of the applicants. What are the verbal SAT, math SAT, and GPA of the admitted students? |
Anonymous
Why does that matter. Harvard would not be able to fill its seats based merely on a formula on "objective" scores like SAT scores or GPA. If they only considered perfect GPA or perfect SAT scores or whatever, they would still have to choose between applicants to fill their class. And they, as a private institution, should be able to decide that these scores are not what they are looking for in a student body. They have determined that their formula for selecting Harvard students tries to suss out potential to make an impact in some way or the other. They may be wrong. And if they are wrong, their brand value will go down. Let the market determine if their strategy is successful or not. |