Ivana Trump has died at 73

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Anonymous wrote:The whole family is so revoltingly cringe worthy
No class, no refined vocabu, just into boasting and showing off their money.
I cannot imagine a real old money person, like a titled member of British nobility doing that

I would says Ivanka certainly has class and a refined vocabulary.

dp Ivanka? LOL

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Anonymous wrote:Ivana and Donald at Roy Cohn's birthday in 1980 right before her 31st birthday



Ivana in 1982 at the age of 33.





No friggin way. She's at least 8-10 years older than her published age.

She could be his mother in that top pic!

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Anonymous[b wrote:]Just speaking hypothetically a child born in the Sudetenland in 1938 could have been[/b]:

* born to Jewish parents who had assimilated ( like Madeline Albright's had) - all were later registered as Jewish and sent to the concentration camps
A very young child could have been hidden with neighbors or distant relatives ( it happened ) . Parents taken away and never returned

* born to Ethnic Germans living in Sudetenland who welcomed Nazis or maybe had a child with a German soldier and then, when Russians occupied, parents were executred as collaborators , leaving a young child ( placed with apartchiks )

or some combo of the above

Its also commonly known that the stasi regularly plumbed the orphanages for their loyal employees. The State would have no problem providing documents for purposes of travel

Your timing is off by about 10 years. Ivana was 73.

I don't believe that is a 73 year old woman. I don't dispute that her immigration paperwork and Czech passport provided to Austria state a 1949 birthday, but the point is she looks 10 years older, Donald deferred to her in business in a way men only do to women much older than them - not younger

AND

were she born on the cusp of the German invasion and all the chaos that ensued that would explain how this person, who looks a decade older, has no siblings, parent's history cannot be traced and there is no record of her ever having been a part of the Czech Olympic ski team as an " alternate " or anything else- certainly not ATHLETE VISA material

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Anonymous wrote:That picture from the 1960s also supports the idea that she was a bit older than she admitted. The picture looks like maybe 1965? When she would be 16? She looks in her twenties in that picture. So my guess is that she was late 70's, not early 70s, and maybe born either during the war or right after.

No, I think that picture with the short dark Twiggy hair ( sorry I can't figure out how to re-post it ) is 1970

Lots of people focus on her face, but as an Athlete myself, I focus on her torso- look at how " loose" her stomach muscles are- that's a late 20's early 30's woman who has never trained as an athlete- compare her body to Nadia's or Olga Corbet or Kris Jenner...

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Whatever you think of the Trump family, I couldn't help but feel grudging respect and admiration for Ivana because she simply didn't give a damn. She was going to remain platinum blond, wear outrageous clothes and just refuse to conform.

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Anonymous wrote:Regarding her premature aging, I think we have to remember that her horrible plastic surgery made her look disfigured, like a lopsided smooshed up face. She was so pretty before!

Was she? I keep hearing this claim, but I have never seen pictures of her where she was so pretty.

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Anonymous wrote:Regarding her premature aging, I think we have to remember that her horrible plastic surgery made her look disfigured, like a lopsided smooshed up face. She was so pretty before!

Was she? I keep hearing this claim, but I have never seen pictures of her where she was so pretty.

She was pretty when she was young, before all the plastic surgery:

I guess it takes all kinds, but she does not look pretty at all to me. She's put together, but nothing about her looks is noteworthy. Plus her eyes are looking in two different directions.

I laughed out loud. And you are right.

Given Trump’s own relationship with his mother, it would make sense he would marry a mother figure. I think she was mid-80s

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Anonymous wrote:Such a sad an lonely death! And after a pretty awful life. She always put in a brave face but she was publicly humiliated by Donald so many times and cheated on frequently while married to him. She had strict non disclosure clauses and could never tell the truth about anything. Yeah, she was rich but always looks like she lost. And it all showed - she looked like a 90 year old woman in her recent pictures.

And then to die by falling down her own fancy spiral staircase with no one else there. To die on the floor like that.. it’s just so sad.

I wish my life were so awful.

Don’t wish that, PP. She had money (which is great) but nothing else. She lost her self-respect with him. And then to die like that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Such a sad an lonely death! And after a pretty awful life. She always put in a brave face but she was publicly humiliated by Donald so many times and cheated on frequently while married to him. She had strict non disclosure clauses and could never tell the truth about anything. Yeah, she was rich but always looks like she lost. And it all showed - she looked like a 90 year old woman in her recent pictures.

And then to die by falling down her own fancy spiral staircase with no one else there. To die on the floor like that.. it’s just so sad.

I wish my life were so awful.

Don’t wish that, PP. She had money (which is great) but nothing else. She lost her self-respect with him. And then to die like that?

She was probably wearing 6" stilletos, lost her balance. Falling is a lot better than cancer. She led a totally frivolous life. I cannot fathom 17 pages about someone of so little significance.

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Anonymous wrote:Regarding her premature aging, I think we have to remember that her horrible plastic surgery made her look disfigured, like a lopsided smooshed up face. She was so pretty before!

Silicone and Botox do destroy the face, but its not her face that is the tell tale- its more her frail body carriage, stooped posture, the neck wrinkles that we all see in other women in their 80's like Diane Feinstein, Nancy Pelosi. The body changes A LOT in that decade from 78-88 and no amount of plastic surgery will hide it.

+1!!

Her frame looked frail.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Regarding her premature aging, I think we have to remember that her horrible plastic surgery made her look disfigured, like a lopsided smooshed up face. She was so pretty before!

Was she? I keep hearing this claim, but I have never seen pictures of her where she was so pretty.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Regarding her premature aging, I think we have to remember that her horrible plastic surgery made her look disfigured, like a lopsided smooshed up face. She was so pretty before!

Was she? I keep hearing this claim, but I have never seen pictures of her where she was so pretty.

She was pretty when she was young, before all the plastic surgery:

She was reasonably attractive. Nothing special. She had weird eyes.

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She was really beautiful and kind.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for Ivana because she obviously put up with a lot of abuse in her life. May she rest in peace.

The truth is Ivana and Donald built a wonderful life for themselves and contributed so much to NYC and later the USA. We should all be grateful to them both. RIP Ivana.

I think you need to check her divorce proceedings, which I won't cite here dur to the 48 rule. They don't have anything bad about her, but she had plenty of grounds for divorce, including physical and mental abuse from Trump. Glad she is at peace now.

THIS. And divorcing from/co-parenting with a malignant narcissist/sociopath (x1000 with her particular ex-H) is utter hell; a living nightmare (ask me how I know). I am also positive she was legally gagged from ever uttering a word about it. Truly awful what I'm sure she endured for a very, very long time. And really her entire life after that, not being able to say anything. May she Rest in Peace.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for Ivana because she obviously put up with a lot of abuse in her life. May she rest in peace.

The truth is Ivana and Donald built a wonderful life for themselves and contributed so much to NYC and later the USA. We should all be grateful to them both. RIP Ivana.

I think you need to check her divorce proceedings, which I won't cite here dur to the 48 rule. They don't have anything bad about her, but she had plenty of grounds for divorce, including physical and mental abuse from Trump. Glad she is at peace now.

THIS. And divorcing from/co-parenting with a malignant narcissist/sociopath (x1000 with her particular ex-H) is utter hell; a living nightmare (ask me how I know). I am also positive she was legally gagged from ever uttering a word about it. Truly awful what I'm sure she endured for a very, very long time. And really her entire life after that, not being able to say anything. May she Rest in Peace.

Maybe...if she really had some balls...

She planned to release a post-mortem tell-all book. Proceeds to benefit her grandchildren.

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Anonymous wrote:She was really beautiful and kind.

The Trump's are asking for no flowers but contributions to her favorite animal charity. Dollars to doughnuts it all goes into The Don's coffers.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Regarding her premature aging, I think we have to remember that her horrible plastic surgery made her look disfigured, like a lopsided smooshed up face. She was so pretty before!

Was she? I keep hearing this claim, but I have never seen pictures of her where she was so pretty.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Regarding her premature aging, I think we have to remember that her horrible plastic surgery made her look disfigured, like a lopsided smooshed up face. She was so pretty before!

Was she? I keep hearing this claim, but I have never seen pictures of her where she was so pretty.

She was pretty when she was young, before all the plastic surgery:

I guess it takes all kinds, but she does not look pretty at all to me. She's put together, but nothing about her looks is noteworthy. Plus her eyes are looking in two different directions.

I laughed out loud. And you are right.

Given Trump’s own relationship with his mother, it would make sense he would marry a mother figure. I think she was mid-80s

Laughing at physical deformities is no longer socially acceptable. Come on and join us in the 21st century grandma.