Waitlisted at TJ - now what?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you child was denied, but you did not file an appeal, any chance the FRMS scandal will change the outcome?

It is a mess, so who knows.

For some of the schools, it would not surprise me if ALL of the kids who were accepted checked yes and ALMOST all of the waitlisted kids checked yes. All of the honest kids were rejected.

What will TJ Admissions do then? How will it look when Longfellow has only a handful of admissions after they clean out all the false “Yes” answers.

I know a ton of Longfellow kids that got waitlisted. These were not families that would have lied. I only know a few kids that were accepted. These are also not families that would have lied. The kids that were accepted are perfectly deserving of being accepted, great students, but so are the kids that weren’t accepted. It just appears random. My child didn’t apply so I have no personal stake, but many of child’s friends applied.

More than half of the very top longfellow kids were accepted. I mean very top. Some were left in the waiting pool.
There are also students who are not very strong got accepted. Probably these are the free meal students.
Anyway, the longfellow admission is not like somebody imagined that all accepted and waitlisted students are free meal students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:This is the confidential “TJ Scoring rubric”:



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It was confidential in order to hide it from parents and prospective parents.

Looking at this rubric, it’s clear that a prep center could easily coach a student on how to craft a 300 point SIS Essay. Under a timed written test, a kid that has not practiced these silly POG essays multiple times would have a brain freeze since the POG skills are nonsensical.

Throw in the essay being unproctured and I don’t see how this is a logical process. Setting aside all of the equity/race concerns, this is just not best practices for evaluating anyone on anything.

Did the school board sign off on this? Or was the brain child of Gatehouse?

It's gatehouse, the student portrait sheet language has almost nothing to do with academic talent

The problem solving essay is 1/3 solving the problem and 2/3 describing the solution and writing

At the same time the school board basically rubberstamps anything that is brought to them, there is a real lack of intellectual rigor or curiosity on the board. Several board members had no idea what they were actually voting on or the impact it would have on the process

This is problem solving essay is not even a problem. It is just a random science topic that students to express their opinions on, so its 100% writing skills. So, all 600 points have very little to do with academic talent and scoring can be extremely subjective depending who is grading and wether that person likes the style of writing, choice of words etc. 1.25 years worth of grades in all the core courses can only make a difference of a whopping 37.5 points i.e (4.0 - 3.5)*75. There is no teacher input and absolutely no credit for any of the stem electives kids took or stem stuff kids involved in. No wonder there were a lot of unexpected admissions as well as rejections. This is the new normal for TJ and we all need to get used to it, which we will eventually.

In short, it is lottery

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any movement on the waitlist yet?

Wondering this as well.

Admissions portal is currently displaying a notice that it is down "for maintenance" and the decision tab is missing. Could be that they're updating decisions...

Applicants and Parents: Please do not log into the system. It is unavailable due to maintenance. Monitor this message for the reopening date. Thank you.

Wondering whats going on?

Hacked, or they don't know how to remove admissions while keeping the system up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you child was denied, but you did not file an appeal, any chance the FRMS scandal will change the outcome?

It is a mess, so who knows.

For some of the schools, it would not surprise me if ALL of the kids who were accepted checked yes and ALMOST all of the waitlisted kids checked yes. All of the honest kids were rejected.

What will TJ Admissions do then? How will it look when Longfellow has only a handful of admissions after they clean out all the false “Yes” answers.

I know a ton of Longfellow kids that got waitlisted. These were not families that would have lied. I only know a few kids that were accepted. These are also not families that would have lied. The kids that were accepted are perfectly deserving of being accepted, great students, but so are the kids that weren’t accepted. It just appears random. My child didn’t apply so I have no personal stake, but many of child’s friends applied.

More than half of the very top longfellow kids were accepted. I mean very top. Some were left in the waiting pool.
There are also students who are not very strong got accepted. Probably these are the free meal students.
Anyway, the longfellow admission is not like somebody imagined that all accepted and waitlisted students are free meal students.

Some of the "top" replied yes to the meals question too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you child was denied, but you did not file an appeal, any chance the FRMS scandal will change the outcome?

It is a mess, so who knows.

For some of the schools, it would not surprise me if ALL of the kids who were accepted checked yes and ALMOST all of the waitlisted kids checked yes. All of the honest kids were rejected.

What will TJ Admissions do then? How will it look when Longfellow has only a handful of admissions after they clean out all the false “Yes” answers.

I know a ton of Longfellow kids that got waitlisted. These were not families that would have lied. I only know a few kids that were accepted. These are also not families that would have lied. The kids that were accepted are perfectly deserving of being accepted, great students, but so are the kids that weren’t accepted. It just appears random. My child didn’t apply so I have no personal stake, but many of child’s friends applied.

More than half of the very top longfellow kids were accepted. I mean very top. Some were left in the waiting pool.
There are also students who are not very strong got accepted. Probably these are the free meal students.
Anyway, the longfellow admission is not like somebody imagined that all accepted and waitlisted students are free meal students.

Some of the "top" replied yes to the meals question too.

How do you know this? And also, please by saying this you are revealing kids identity. No one knows for sure who did what

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you child was denied, but you did not file an appeal, any chance the FRMS scandal will change the outcome?

It is a mess, so who knows.

For some of the schools, it would not surprise me if ALL of the kids who were accepted checked yes and ALMOST all of the waitlisted kids checked yes. All of the honest kids were rejected.

What will TJ Admissions do then? How will it look when Longfellow has only a handful of admissions after they clean out all the false “Yes” answers.

I know a ton of Longfellow kids that got waitlisted. These were not families that would have lied. I only know a few kids that were accepted. These are also not families that would have lied. The kids that were accepted are perfectly deserving of being accepted, great students, but so are the kids that weren’t accepted. It just appears random. My child didn’t apply so I have no personal stake, but many of child’s friends applied.

More than half of the very top longfellow kids were accepted. I mean very top. Some were left in the waiting pool.
There are also students who are not very strong got accepted. Probably these are the free meal students.
Anyway, the longfellow admission is not like somebody imagined that all accepted and waitlisted students are free meal students.

Some of the "top" replied yes to the meals question too.

How do you know this? And also, please by saying this you are revealing kids identity. No one knows for sure who did what

Kids may talk about some of these.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you child was denied, but you did not file an appeal, any chance the FRMS scandal will change the outcome?

It is a mess, so who knows.

For some of the schools, it would not surprise me if ALL of the kids who were accepted checked yes and ALMOST all of the waitlisted kids checked yes. All of the honest kids were rejected.

What will TJ Admissions do then? How will it look when Longfellow has only a handful of admissions after they clean out all the false “Yes” answers.

I know a ton of Longfellow kids that got waitlisted. These were not families that would have lied. I only know a few kids that were accepted. These are also not families that would have lied. The kids that were accepted are perfectly deserving of being accepted, great students, but so are the kids that weren’t accepted. It just appears random. My child didn’t apply so I have no personal stake, but many of child’s friends applied.

More than half of the very top longfellow kids were accepted. I mean very top. Some were left in the waiting pool.
There are also students who are not very strong got accepted. Probably these are the free meal students.
Anyway, the longfellow admission is not like somebody imagined that all accepted and waitlisted students are free meal students.

Some of the "top" replied yes to the meals question too.

How do you know this? And also, please by saying this you are revealing kids identity. No one knows for sure who did what

Kids may talk about some of these.

Exactly.

My child mentioned that kids were logging into their TJ Admissions portals together to check what they each selected under the application tabs. Two who were admitted were shocked to see that they were marked as Yes for free meals.

[Anonymous]

Could some kids have thought they were marking the right box because all the kids at their schools were getting free meals in the 2021-22 school year? Or do the parents have to be involved with the application process as well? I don't know that every middle school kid is necessarily familiar with the in-and-outs of FARMS eligibility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any movement on the waitlist yet?

Wondering this as well.

Admissions portal is currently displaying a notice that it is down "for maintenance" and the decision tab is missing. Could be that they're updating decisions...

Applicants and Parents: Please do not log into the system. It is unavailable due to maintenance. Monitor this message for the reopening date. Thank you.

Wondering whats going on?

Hacked, or they don't know how to remove admissions while keeping the system up.

The hacker should get in! When my kid was in 6th grade, one of the kids hacked into the school computer and was changing grades (I don’t remember if it was IAAT or SOL so kids could get into Algebra. I know it’s illegal, but honestly, kind of funny and clearly a bright kid.

[Anonymous]

What is going on with the admissions website?

My child was rejected. We did not appeal. I went in the portal to reread the newsletter that came with the decision and everything was gone wrt the decision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you child was denied, but you did not file an appeal, any chance the FRMS scandal will change the outcome?

It is a mess, so who knows.

For some of the schools, it would not surprise me if ALL of the kids who were accepted checked yes and ALMOST all of the waitlisted kids checked yes. All of the honest kids were rejected.

What will TJ Admissions do then? How will it look when Longfellow has only a handful of admissions after they clean out all the false “Yes” answers.

I know a ton of Longfellow kids that got waitlisted. These were not families that would have lied. I only know a few kids that were accepted. These are also not families that would have lied. The kids that were accepted are perfectly deserving of being accepted, great students, but so are the kids that weren’t accepted. It just appears random. My child didn’t apply so I have no personal stake, but many of child’s friends applied.

More than half of the very top longfellow kids were accepted. I mean very top. Some were left in the waiting pool.
There are also students who are not very strong got accepted. Probably these are the free meal students.
Anyway, the longfellow admission is not like somebody imagined that all accepted and waitlisted students are free meal students.

Out of curiosity, how do you know who the “very top” Longfellow kids are? And how do you know that more than half of these were accepted? That is a lot of personal information that you keep track of and that FCPS does not publish.

It is likely that many kids don’t know how their parents responded to the parents’ part of the form and are curious. Many parents are trying to avoid embarrassment with their own kids and that likely explains the PPs claim above.

Nobody really knows who the very top kids are….

[Anonymous]

Will the waitlist move today?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you child was denied, but you did not file an appeal, any chance the FRMS scandal will change the outcome?

It is a mess, so who knows.

For some of the schools, it would not surprise me if ALL of the kids who were accepted checked yes and ALMOST all of the waitlisted kids checked yes. All of the honest kids were rejected.

What will TJ Admissions do then? How will it look when Longfellow has only a handful of admissions after they clean out all the false “Yes” answers.

I know a ton of Longfellow kids that got waitlisted. These were not families that would have lied. I only know a few kids that were accepted. These are also not families that would have lied. The kids that were accepted are perfectly deserving of being accepted, great students, but so are the kids that weren’t accepted. It just appears random. My child didn’t apply so I have no personal stake, but many of child’s friends applied.

More than half of the very top longfellow kids were accepted. I mean very top. Some were left in the waiting pool.
There are also students who are not very strong got accepted. Probably these are the free meal students.
Anyway, the longfellow admission is not like somebody imagined that all accepted and waitlisted students are free meal students.

Out of curiosity, how do you know who the “very top” Longfellow kids are? And how do you know that more than half of these were accepted? That is a lot of personal information that you keep track of and that FCPS does not publish.

It is likely that many kids don’t know how their parents responded to the parents’ part of the form and are curious. Many parents are trying to avoid embarrassment with their own kids and that likely explains the PPs claim above.

Nobody really knows who the very top kids are….

The very top kids in my mind are those top students in math counts, science Olympiad, Quizbowl, AMC8/AMC10 etc. Longfellow has the most national award winners in FCPS. In my observation, most of these kids end up being accepted in TJ.

Kids know who got accepted, waitlisted, or rejected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Will the waitlist move today?

Next Friday I believe

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you child was denied, but you did not file an appeal, any chance the FRMS scandal will change the outcome?

It is a mess, so who knows.

For some of the schools, it would not surprise me if ALL of the kids who were accepted checked yes and ALMOST all of the waitlisted kids checked yes. All of the honest kids were rejected.

What will TJ Admissions do then? How will it look when Longfellow has only a handful of admissions after they clean out all the false “Yes” answers.

I know a ton of Longfellow kids that got waitlisted. These were not families that would have lied. I only know a few kids that were accepted. These are also not families that would have lied. The kids that were accepted are perfectly deserving of being accepted, great students, but so are the kids that weren’t accepted. It just appears random. My child didn’t apply so I have no personal stake, but many of child’s friends applied.

More than half of the very top longfellow kids were accepted. I mean very top. Some were left in the waiting pool.
There are also students who are not very strong got accepted. Probably these are the free meal students.
Anyway, the longfellow admission is not like somebody imagined that all accepted and waitlisted students are free meal students.

Out of curiosity, how do you know who the “very top” Longfellow kids are? And how do you know that more than half of these were accepted? That is a lot of personal information that you keep track of and that FCPS does not publish.

It is likely that many kids don’t know how their parents responded to the parents’ part of the form and are curious. Many parents are trying to avoid embarrassment with their own kids and that likely explains the PPs claim above.

Nobody really knows who the very top kids are….

The very top kids in my mind are those top students in math counts, science Olympiad, Quizbowl, AMC8/AMC10 etc. Longfellow has the most national award winners in FCPS. In my observation, most of these kids end up being accepted in TJ.

Kids know who got accepted, waitlisted, or rejected.

And some of them said yes on the meals question.