Waitlisted at TJ - now what?

Anonymous
Any movement on the waitlist yet?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is the confidential “TJ Scoring rubric”:



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It was confidential in order to hide it from parents and prospective parents.


Looking at this rubric, it’s clear that a prep center could easily coach a student on how to craft a 300 point SIS Essay. Under a timed written test, a kid that has not practiced these silly POG essays multiple times would have a brain freeze since the POG skills are nonsensical.

Throw in the essay being unproctured and I don’t see how this is a logical process. Setting aside all of the equity/race concerns, this is just not best practices for evaluating anyone on anything.

Did the school board sign off on this? Or was the brain child of Gatehouse?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is the confidential “TJ Scoring rubric”:



[/img]https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5f4289cac951f24569ad9488/247ecb50-ef38-48bf-96a2-d44a2dc854a5/Rubric-2.jpg[/img]


It was confidential in order to hide it from parents and prospective parents.


Looking at this rubric, it’s clear that a prep center could easily coach a student on how to craft a 300 point SIS Essay. Under a timed written test, a kid that has not practiced these silly POG essays multiple times would have a brain freeze since the POG skills are nonsensical.

Throw in the essay being unproctured and I don’t see how this is a logical process. Setting aside all of the equity/race concerns, this is just not best practices for evaluating anyone on anything.

Did the school board sign off on this? Or was the brain child of Gatehouse?



It's gatehouse, the student portrait sheet language has almost nothing to do with academic talent

The problem solving essay is 1/3 solving the problem and 2/3 describing the solution and writing

At the same time the school board basically rubberstamps anything that is brought to them, there is a real lack of intellectual rigor or curiosity on the board. Several board members had no idea what they were actually voting on or the impact it would have on the process
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is the confidential “TJ Scoring rubric”:



[/img]https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5f4289cac951f24569ad9488/247ecb50-ef38-48bf-96a2-d44a2dc854a5/Rubric-2.jpg[/img]


It was confidential in order to hide it from parents and prospective parents.


Looking at this rubric, it’s clear that a prep center could easily coach a student on how to craft a 300 point SIS Essay. Under a timed written test, a kid that has not practiced these silly POG essays multiple times would have a brain freeze since the POG skills are nonsensical.

Throw in the essay being unproctured and I don’t see how this is a logical process. Setting aside all of the equity/race concerns, this is just not best practices for evaluating anyone on anything.

Did the school board sign off on this? Or was the brain child of Gatehouse?



It's gatehouse, the student portrait sheet language has almost nothing to do with academic talent

The problem solving essay is 1/3 solving the problem and 2/3 describing the solution and writing

At the same time the school board basically rubberstamps anything that is brought to them, there is a real lack of intellectual rigor or curiosity on the board. Several board members had no idea what they were actually voting on or the impact it would have on the process


This is problem solving essay is not even a problem. It is just a random science topic that students to express their opinions on, so its 100% writing skills. So, all 600 points have very little to do with academic talent and scoring can be extremely subjective depending who is grading and wether that person likes the style of writing, choice of words etc. 1.25 years worth of grades in all the core courses can only make a difference of a whopping 37.5 points i.e (4.0 - 3.5)*75. There is no teacher input and absolutely no credit for any of the stem electives kids took or stem stuff kids involved in. No wonder there were a lot of unexpected admissions as well as rejections. This is the new normal for TJ and we all need to get used to it, which we will eventually.




Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Any movement on the waitlist yet?


Wondering this as well.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any movement on the waitlist yet?


Wondering this as well.
Admissions portal is currently displaying a notice that it is down "for maintenance" and the decision tab is missing. Could be that they're updating decisions...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any movement on the waitlist yet?


Wondering this as well.
Admissions portal is currently displaying a notice that it is down "for maintenance" and the decision tab is missing. Could be that they're updating decisions...


Applicants and Parents: Please do not log into the system. It is unavailable due to maintenance. Monitor this message for the reopening date. Thank you.

Wondering whats going on?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any movement on the waitlist yet?


Wondering this as well.
Admissions portal is currently displaying a notice that it is down "for maintenance" and the decision tab is missing. Could be that they're updating decisions...


Applicants and Parents: Please do not log into the system. It is unavailable due to maintenance. Monitor this message for the reopening date. Thank you.

Wondering whats going on?


Most likely they are re-evaluating applications based on who lost their free meal experience factor points, as well as any applications which need to be re-evaluated due to successful appeals (the appeals committee has reviewed appeals that were received by the deadline of 10 business days after the application decisions), and will e provided updated decisions based on those re-evaluations.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any movement on the waitlist yet?


Wondering this as well.
Admissions portal is currently displaying a notice that it is down "for maintenance" and the decision tab is missing. Could be that they're updating decisions...


Applicants and Parents: Please do not log into the system. It is unavailable due to maintenance. Monitor this message for the reopening date. Thank you.

Wondering whats going on?


Most likely they are re-evaluating applications based on who lost their free meal experience factor points, as well as any applications which need to be re-evaluated due to successful appeals (the appeals committee has reviewed appeals that were received by the deadline of 10 business days after the application decisions), and will e provided updated decisions based on those re-evaluations.


The site is up now
Anonymous
If you child was denied, but you did not file an appeal, any chance the FRMS scandal will change the outcome?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you child was denied, but you did not file an appeal, any chance the FRMS scandal will change the outcome?


It is a mess, so who knows.

For some of the schools, it would not surprise me if ALL of the kids who were accepted checked yes and ALMOST all of the waitlisted kids checked yes. All of the honest kids were rejected.

What will TJ Admissions do then? How will it look when Longfellow has only a handful of admissions after they clean out all the false “Yes” answers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you child was denied, but you did not file an appeal, any chance the FRMS scandal will change the outcome?


It is a mess, so who knows.

For some of the schools, it would not surprise me if ALL of the kids who were accepted checked yes and ALMOST all of the waitlisted kids checked yes. All of the honest kids were rejected.

What will TJ Admissions do then? How will it look when Longfellow has only a handful of admissions after they clean out all the false “Yes” answers.


Longfellow has most national award winners in FCPS. Many of those kids got admitted.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you child was denied, but you did not file an appeal, any chance the FRMS scandal will change the outcome?


It is a mess, so who knows.

For some of the schools, it would not surprise me if ALL of the kids who were accepted checked yes and ALMOST all of the waitlisted kids checked yes. All of the honest kids were rejected.

What will TJ Admissions do then? How will it look when Longfellow has only a handful of admissions after they clean out all the false “Yes” answers.


I know a ton of Longfellow kids that got waitlisted. These were not families that would have lied. I only know a few kids that were accepted. These are also not families that would have lied. The kids that were accepted are perfectly deserving of being accepted, great students, but so are the kids that weren’t accepted. It just appears random. My child didn’t apply so I have no personal stake, but many of child’s friends applied.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
The site is up now


It was never actually down. But the warning message is still there and the decision tab is still missing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you child was denied, but you did not file an appeal, any chance the FRMS scandal will change the outcome?


It is a mess, so who knows.

For some of the schools, it would not surprise me if ALL of the kids who were accepted checked yes and ALMOST all of the waitlisted kids checked yes. All of the honest kids were rejected.

What will TJ Admissions do then? How will it look when Longfellow has only a handful of admissions after they clean out all the false “Yes” answers.


I know a ton of Longfellow kids that got waitlisted. These were not families that would have lied. I only know a few kids that were accepted. These are also not families that would have lied. The kids that were accepted are perfectly deserving of being accepted, great students, but so are the kids that weren’t accepted. It just appears random. My child didn’t apply so I have no personal stake, but many of child’s friends applied.


Yep, the entire thing is so random that my kid bets it has to be a lottery. According to my kid, there are few smarter kids got accepted, but quite a few of the really smart/standout kids were not accepted while many others who got accepted had nothing special about them, not so great gpa and/or some took algebra in 8th in spite of being in AAP, no stem electives/activities or in generally nothing much to show for. You might want to argue that not all schools have same stem electives etc, but I am talking about kids from same school where everyone has equal opportunity.
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