LCPS sexual assualt - who is held accountable?

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Anonymous wrote:So let me get this straight, the theory here is LCPS buried the assault so they could push through a proposal to allow transgender students to use bathrooms matching their gender rather than sex at birth? That would imply there was no policy at the time of the assault in question allowing a “boy in a skirt” to use the girls bathroom. If that’s the case, why do people think going back to the policy in effect at the time of this assault would prevent similar assaults in the future?

There doesn’t have to be an official policy. In the current climate, if a girl complained that she felt uncomfortable with him in the bathroom, she would have been ridiculed and probably faced disciplinary action by the school for transphobia. The policy is simply a formality. The problem here is liberal idiots, both on the board and in the community.

I really, really doubt that, because a boy in a skirt is not the same as a trans girl.

Can you explain how a third party can the difference?

Plus I’ve heard the boy was gender fluid. So exactly what is gender fluid? So if they feel more like a girl one day they can use the girls bathroom and the next day use the boys bathroom if they feel more like a boy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So why is LCPD describing the bathroom assault as "too complex" to notify the community but the classroom assault was simple?

There is no LCPD.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So why is LCPD describing the bathroom assault as "too complex" to notify the community but the classroom assault was simple?

I don't think the school believed the girl. The Sheriff's Office statement references the fact that the victim and the boy knew each other. I'm guessing the boy claimed it was consensual.

The sro didn't seem to believe the girl. It wasn't the school.

[Anonymous]

The bathroom thing is now VA law. It’s not up to LCPS. (I still despise LCPS and think they handled this absolutely terribly on so many levels, but they have no say over transgender bathrooms.)

https://wset.com/news/local/virginia-transgender-student-policy-gives-school-boards-little-say

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Anonymous wrote:My child attends Stone Bridge, we received an email that the police were called because a parent was acting agressive toward the Staff. There was no mention of a possible rape.
We did not receive any notification about an assault or rape at anytime from Stone Bridge High School or the Sheriffs office, even after they charge the male student some weeks later.

We did receive notice of the assault and rape at Broad Run High School on the day that it was reported. We receive an email from the LCPS and a notice from the Sheriff's office was posted on Facebook and other places.

I am less concerned about the bathrooms as the second assault/rape was in a classroom. My concern is why was he in school to be allowed the opportunity to do this a second time? And why were we not informed of the assault and rape at Stone Bridge?

I want answers from the Stone Bridge principal, the Superintendant and the School Board. I am appalled by their actions.

As a parent I would have been furious if my child attended that high school and I was never informed of an assault that took place on school grounds. Why were parents notified of the second assault but not the first one?

You people are insane. The sherriff's department has no reason and would not hide such a controversy. You are creating bs just to fit your politics.

This is purely speculation, but it's possible that the victim in the first assault had a prior relationship with the assailant, which is why the investigation took more time.

This is the first thing said in this thread that makes me think they were hiding a potential trans controversy. I cannot think of anytime that police were involved at any school my children attended and we were not notified.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So why is LCPD describing the bathroom assault as "too complex" to notify the community but the classroom assault was simple?

I don't think the school believed the girl. The Sheriff's Office statement references the fact that the victim and the boy knew each other. I'm guessing the boy claimed it was consensual.

The sro didn't seem to believe the girl. It wasn't the school.

That was my guess too. He said/she said.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Either the superintendent Ziegler or principal Flynn needs to be fired. There are only two possible truths. A). Ziegler truly diid not know that the rape had occurred and Flynn didn’t issue an immediate correction. Flynn fired. B). If Ziegler was informed of the case and lied in the June meeting in which case Ziegler needs to removed for lying, and violating community trust.

What if the lawyers/cops told them to not say anything?

If the lawyers/cops told Ziegler to say nothing that in itself is fine. But, opening your mouth and outright denying any such incidents is simply lying and unlawful.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Either the superintendent Ziegler or principal Flynn needs to be fired. There are only two possible truths. A). Ziegler truly diid not know that the rape had occurred and Flynn didn’t issue an immediate correction. Flynn fired. B). If Ziegler was informed of the case and lied in the June meeting in which case Ziegler needs to removed for lying, and violating community trust.

What if the lawyers/cops told them to not say anything?

If the lawyers/cops told Ziegler to say nothing that in itself is fine. But, opening your mouth and outright denying any such incidents is simply lying and unlawful.

…and grounds for firing and prosecuting legally. He’s lawyering up big time.

The money Smith will receive from LCPS is going to be so big it’ll be a case for future students to dive in while in law school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The bathroom thing is now VA law. It’s not up to LCPS. (I still despise LCPS and think they handled this absolutely terribly on so many levels, but they have no say over transgender bathrooms.)

https://wset.com/news/local/virginia-transgender-student-policy-gives-school-boards-little-say

There were a couple of posts above that said a boy can't just put on a skirt and walk in the girl's bathroom. They're wrong. A boy can absolutely do this and no one is authorized to ask if they are really trans - because the only requirement for being deemed trans is to say you are. Period.

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Anonymous wrote:The second rape (same boy) occurred in an empty classroom. So it has nothing to do with the bathroom. It has to do with the fact that this pervert wasn’t expelled and jailed the first time!!! Family 2 should be even more enraged than Family 1!! 100% preventable.

I think it's actually both. Doesn't have to be an either/or thing. Letting boys into girls locker rooms/bathrooms is a terrible idea. Covering up and transferring responsibility and then lying about it is disgraceful and needs accountability.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do the clothes and the sexual preference of the alleged attacker matter here, at all? If it’s true a kid was sexually violated and LCPS and the police have done little to nothing about it. THAT’S the story.

It matters because of LCPS’s policy of allowing anyone who identifies as female in the girl’s bathroom and visa versa. It matters because one of the school board members denied in a meeting where the bathroom issue was brought up, that there have been any reports of sexual assaults in bathrooms. When the girls dad protested he became a poster child and was labeled as anti-trans. (Excuse my English - it’s not my first language).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The bathroom thing is now VA law. It’s not up to LCPS. (I still despise LCPS and think they handled this absolutely terribly on so many levels, but they have no say over transgender bathrooms.)

https://wset.com/news/local/virginia-transgender-student-policy-gives-school-boards-little-say

Don’t expect bigots to listen to reason.

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Anonymous wrote:Remember when people said this exact scenario would never happen?

I shared my thoughts in one of the deleted threads. Allowing boys to use the girls bathroom removes a layer of protection for girls. It means a boy can walk into the girls room and not get called out by his peers or stopped by a teacher. It means a girl will feel like she can’t just turn around and walk out because that would be considered “transphobic”. She is left vulnerable by policies that requires schools to allow students to use the restroom of their choice. Originally transgender students were offered private bathrooms but lawsuits were filed to let them into their choice instead. And now a girl has been raped in one. This isn’t okay.

Boys don't use the girls bathroom. Transgirls use the girls bathroom.

And you honestly think this boy was in the bathroom
Having a pee and said, hmm I think I’ll rape this girl in here? It was obviously a situation that was going to happen whether he was “allowed” or not. There are other places he can and did attack.

It’s not about the trans or the bathroom it’s about a psychopathic boy who needs to be in jail and/or a mental institution. I fail to see what LCPS or the sherif did wrong. They followed the law as far as I can see.

The problem here is that LCPS and the principal didn’t do anything about it because they didn’t want to be viewed as anti trans. Instead the girls father filed a police report. The school refused to do so and ended up transferring the kid to another school where he/she then assaulted another girl.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:The problem here is that LCPS and the principal didn’t do anything about it because they didn’t want to be viewed as anti trans. Instead the girls father filed a police report. The school refused to do so and ended up transferring the kid to another school where he/she then assaulted another girl.

The first part of this is not true. The SRO was immediately informed. LCPS, the Sheriff's office, and even Scott Smith (the girl's father) agree on this point.

I have just published a FAQ and Timeline gathering as much information as I could about this with links to related reporting:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1007838.page

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The bathroom thing is now VA law. It’s not up to LCPS. (I still despise LCPS and think they handled this absolutely terribly on so many levels, but they have no say over transgender bathrooms.)

https://wset.com/news/local/virginia-transgender-student-policy-gives-school-boards-little-say

There were a couple of posts above that said a boy can't just put on a skirt and walk in the girl's bathroom. They're wrong. A boy can absolutely do this and no one is authorized to ask if they are really trans - because the only requirement for being deemed trans is to say you are. Period.

Yup. People are not allowed to question these boys or men and they know it. Some posters said that no one probably saw the boy going into the bathroom...but with the law in place you could have 3 dozen adults watching this boy walk into the bathroom and not one is allowed to ask his intentions. Hell the girl was probably uncomfortable when she saw him, but didn't dare speak out for being labeled trans-phobic and disciplined.