FCPS Boundary Review Updates

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Boundary changes are moving forward. Trying to stop them because of meritless accusations against a single school board member is fruitless. FCPS has invested a lot of money in the process. Demographic and other changes to the area make it necessary for the board to take action now.

Gotta love the idiocy of the people who claim that boundary changes are “necessary” despite never articulating why. Boundary change proponents are clowns and hypocrites who would never want their own kids moved.

Why should demographics have anything to do with boundaries?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

IB will change to fewer schools- mostly on the eastern part of the county. South Lakes and Marshall are well placed to keep theirs.

If you took a survey of current South Lakes parents (in boundary only) they would vote overwhelmingly against IB in favor of AP.

If you leave IB at South Lakes, you will continue to have mass exit from Herndon.

Hold up, I thought there was a mass exit from Herndon elsewhere - because Herndon is so terrible. I am so confused. Which is it? Is Herndon a HS people transfer into or out of?

DP, your “gotcha” isn’t quite working. That poster was saying there is an exodus from Herndon to south lakes.

People will seek a better option, not a great option. They are pupil placing to avoid Herndon, not to seek out IB at South Lakes.

Add AAP to Herndon MS and replace IB with AP at South Lakes and there would be more stability in the Herndon pyramid, fewer transfers to South Lakes, and improved results at both schools.

You’re responding to me and I absolutely agree. Before we going nuclear with boundaries, we should make these obvious fixes first.

This was posted on the prior board before it got locked. Based on 2023-2024 CIP, transfers out excluding TJ placements:

Mount Vernon 304
Herndon 263
Annandale 261
Lewis 193
Falls Church 185
Justice 182
Westfield 172
Hayfield 169
West Potomac 165
Robinson 158
South Lakes 150
Fairfax 137
Centreville 114
Marshall 105
South County 105
West Springfield 104
Edison 102
Lake Braddock 100
Langley 94
Oakton 84
Chantilly 70
Woodson 66
Madison 56
McLean 53

Clear pattern as to which schools people are placing out of. If you stop this, those schools are near capacity and no need to move other kids in for “efficiency”. Plus, it is likely the better students transferring out, and keeping them at their base would improve scores at those schools.

Awesome! This means less comptetition for my high achieving kid at Herndon.

Tell Robyn Lady you like things at Herndon exactly the way they are now. Clearly there's no need to either change the boundaries or repatriate the Herndon-zoned kids at other schools.

Nah! Then this thread would end. I like to read it before I go to bed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:[google]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

IB will change to fewer schools- mostly on the eastern part of the county. South Lakes and Marshall are well placed to keep theirs.

If you took a survey of current South Lakes parents (in boundary only) they would vote overwhelmingly against IB in favor of AP.

If you leave IB at South Lakes, you will continue to have mass exit from Herndon.

Hold up, I thought there was a mass exit from Herndon elsewhere - because Herndon is so terrible. I am so confused. Which is it? Is Herndon a HS people transfer into or out of?

DP, your “gotcha” isn’t quite working. That poster was saying there is an exodus from Herndon to south lakes.

People will seek a better option, not a great option. They are pupil placing to avoid Herndon, not to seek out IB at South Lakes.

Add AAP to Herndon MS and replace IB with AP at South Lakes and there would be more stability in the Herndon pyramid, fewer transfers to South Lakes, and improved results at both schools.

You’re responding to me and I absolutely agree. Before we going nuclear with boundaries, we should make these obvious fixes first.

This was posted on the prior board before it got locked. Based on 2023-2024 CIP, transfers out excluding TJ placements:

Mount Vernon 304
Herndon 263
Annandale 261
Lewis 193
Falls Church 185
Justice 182
Westfield 172
Hayfield 169
West Potomac 165
Robinson 158
South Lakes 150
Fairfax 137
Centreville 114
Marshall 105
South County 105
West Springfield 104
Edison 102
Lake Braddock 100
Langley 94
Oakton 84
Chantilly 70
Woodson 66
Madison 56
McLean 53

Clear pattern as to which schools people are placing out of. If you stop this, those schools are near capacity and no need to move other kids in for “efficiency”. Plus, it is likely the better students transferring out, and keeping them at their base would improve scores at those schools.

Awesome! This means less comptetition for my high achieving kid at Herndon.

Tell Robyn Lady you like things at Herndon exactly the way they are now. Clearly there's no need to either change the boundaries or repatriate the Herndon-zoned kids at other schools.

They can’t have schools running at 80%, so they either will bring zoned kids back or move new kids in.

Such an ignorant post masquerading as someone who is an expert. You pulled 80% arbitrarily out of your rear. There is no reason they need to rush to fill schools that might in turn be overcrowded in a couple of years. You’re playing one-dimensional chess, and losing.

[Anonymous]

Was just thinking: I wonder if the rest of the school board is going to continue to blindly go along with Kyle McDaniels’ boundary change push in light of his alleged ethics scandal? Seems like they’ll all get tainted by stripper stink and be in bed with an alleged embezzler, if they do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Was just thinking: I wonder if the rest of the school board is going to continue to blindly go along with Kyle McDaniels’ boundary change push in light of his alleged ethics scandal? Seems like they’ll all get tainted by stripper stink and be in bed with an alleged embezzler, if they do.

Wishful thinking. The rest of them were already on board with boundary changes before these allegations came to light. You can hope that Ben Tribbett is right and that another SB member went to one of these strip clubs in New Orleans with McDaniel. That might generate an extra dose of attention, especially if it was Frisch.

Otherwise they are going to ignore the complaint against McDaniel, distance themselves from him if/when it becomes politically expedient to do so, and go ahead with whatever they want to do with boundaries. McDaniel obviously supports boundary changes, but plenty of the rest of them (other than McElveen) seem to as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:[google]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

IB will change to fewer schools- mostly on the eastern part of the county. South Lakes and Marshall are well placed to keep theirs.

If you took a survey of current South Lakes parents (in boundary only) they would vote overwhelmingly against IB in favor of AP.

If you leave IB at South Lakes, you will continue to have mass exit from Herndon.

Hold up, I thought there was a mass exit from Herndon elsewhere - because Herndon is so terrible. I am so confused. Which is it? Is Herndon a HS people transfer into or out of?

DP, your “gotcha” isn’t quite working. That poster was saying there is an exodus from Herndon to south lakes.

People will seek a better option, not a great option. They are pupil placing to avoid Herndon, not to seek out IB at South Lakes.

Add AAP to Herndon MS and replace IB with AP at South Lakes and there would be more stability in the Herndon pyramid, fewer transfers to South Lakes, and improved results at both schools.

You’re responding to me and I absolutely agree. Before we going nuclear with boundaries, we should make these obvious fixes first.

This was posted on the prior board before it got locked. Based on 2023-2024 CIP, transfers out excluding TJ placements:

Mount Vernon 304
Herndon 263
Annandale 261
Lewis 193
Falls Church 185
Justice 182
Westfield 172
Hayfield 169
West Potomac 165
Robinson 158
South Lakes 150
Fairfax 137
Centreville 114
Marshall 105
South County 105
West Springfield 104
Edison 102
Lake Braddock 100
Langley 94
Oakton 84
Chantilly 70
Woodson 66
Madison 56
McLean 53

Clear pattern as to which schools people are placing out of. If you stop this, those schools are near capacity and no need to move other kids in for “efficiency”. Plus, it is likely the better students transferring out, and keeping them at their base would improve scores at those schools.

Awesome! This means less comptetition for my high achieving kid at Herndon.

Tell Robyn Lady you like things at Herndon exactly the way they are now. Clearly there's no need to either change the boundaries or repatriate the Herndon-zoned kids at other schools.

They can’t have schools running at 80%, so they either will bring zoned kids back or move new kids in.

DP. Makes zero sense to import new kids when all that needs to be done (if anything) is bring back the zoned kids. But this SB lacks common sense, so I doubt they even realize this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[google]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

IB will change to fewer schools- mostly on the eastern part of the county. South Lakes and Marshall are well placed to keep theirs.

If you took a survey of current South Lakes parents (in boundary only) they would vote overwhelmingly against IB in favor of AP.

If you leave IB at South Lakes, you will continue to have mass exit from Herndon.

Hold up, I thought there was a mass exit from Herndon elsewhere - because Herndon is so terrible. I am so confused. Which is it? Is Herndon a HS people transfer into or out of?

DP, your “gotcha” isn’t quite working. That poster was saying there is an exodus from Herndon to south lakes.

People will seek a better option, not a great option. They are pupil placing to avoid Herndon, not to seek out IB at South Lakes.

Add AAP to Herndon MS and replace IB with AP at South Lakes and there would be more stability in the Herndon pyramid, fewer transfers to South Lakes, and improved results at both schools.

You’re responding to me and I absolutely agree. Before we going nuclear with boundaries, we should make these obvious fixes first.

This was posted on the prior board before it got locked. Based on 2023-2024 CIP, transfers out excluding TJ placements:

Mount Vernon 304
Herndon 263
Annandale 261
Lewis 193
Falls Church 185
Justice 182
Westfield 172
Hayfield 169
West Potomac 165
Robinson 158
South Lakes 150
Fairfax 137
Centreville 114
Marshall 105
South County 105
West Springfield 104
Edison 102
Lake Braddock 100
Langley 94
Oakton 84
Chantilly 70
Woodson 66
Madison 56
McLean 53

Clear pattern as to which schools people are placing out of. If you stop this, those schools are near capacity and no need to move other kids in for “efficiency”. Plus, it is likely the better students transferring out, and keeping them at their base would improve scores at those schools.

Awesome! This means less comptetition for my high achieving kid at Herndon.

Tell Robyn Lady you like things at Herndon exactly the way they are now. Clearly there's no need to either change the boundaries or repatriate the Herndon-zoned kids at other schools.

They can’t have schools running at 80%, so they either will bring zoned kids back or move new kids in.

DP. Makes zero sense to import new kids when all that needs to be done (if anything) is bring back the zoned kids. But this SB lacks common sense, so I doubt they even realize this.

You're responding to a dopey post. They have a lot of schools under 85% capacity, and that's not an issue unless the school is so small that it can't offer the basics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[google]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

IB will change to fewer schools- mostly on the eastern part of the county. South Lakes and Marshall are well placed to keep theirs.

If you took a survey of current South Lakes parents (in boundary only) they would vote overwhelmingly against IB in favor of AP.

If you leave IB at South Lakes, you will continue to have mass exit from Herndon.

Hold up, I thought there was a mass exit from Herndon elsewhere - because Herndon is so terrible. I am so confused. Which is it? Is Herndon a HS people transfer into or out of?

DP, your “gotcha” isn’t quite working. That poster was saying there is an exodus from Herndon to south lakes.

People will seek a better option, not a great option. They are pupil placing to avoid Herndon, not to seek out IB at South Lakes.

Add AAP to Herndon MS and replace IB with AP at South Lakes and there would be more stability in the Herndon pyramid, fewer transfers to South Lakes, and improved results at both schools.

You’re responding to me and I absolutely agree. Before we going nuclear with boundaries, we should make these obvious fixes first.

This was posted on the prior board before it got locked. Based on 2023-2024 CIP, transfers out excluding TJ placements:

Mount Vernon 304
Herndon 263
Annandale 261
Lewis 193
Falls Church 185
Justice 182
Westfield 172
Hayfield 169
West Potomac 165
Robinson 158
South Lakes 150
Fairfax 137
Centreville 114
Marshall 105
South County 105
West Springfield 104
Edison 102
Lake Braddock 100
Langley 94
Oakton 84
Chantilly 70
Woodson 66
Madison 56
McLean 53

Clear pattern as to which schools people are placing out of. If you stop this, those schools are near capacity and no need to move other kids in for “efficiency”. Plus, it is likely the better students transferring out, and keeping them at their base would improve scores at those schools.

Awesome! This means less comptetition for my high achieving kid at Herndon.

Tell Robyn Lady you like things at Herndon exactly the way they are now. Clearly there's no need to either change the boundaries or repatriate the Herndon-zoned kids at other schools.

They can’t have schools running at 80%, so they either will bring zoned kids back or move new kids in.

DP. Makes zero sense to import new kids when all that needs to be done (if anything) is bring back the zoned kids. But this SB lacks common sense, so I doubt they even realize this.

You're responding to a dopey post. They have a lot of schools under 85% capacity, and that's not an issue unless the school is so small that it can't offer the basics.

You don’t seem very smart. Obviously it is an issue if some schools are at 130% utilization and others, like Herndon, are projected to be below 80% next year per the recent CIP. But if all the transfers are returned to Herndon, it will be at 96% capacity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[google]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

IB will change to fewer schools- mostly on the eastern part of the county. South Lakes and Marshall are well placed to keep theirs.

If you took a survey of current South Lakes parents (in boundary only) they would vote overwhelmingly against IB in favor of AP.

If you leave IB at South Lakes, you will continue to have mass exit from Herndon.

Hold up, I thought there was a mass exit from Herndon elsewhere - because Herndon is so terrible. I am so confused. Which is it? Is Herndon a HS people transfer into or out of?

DP, your “gotcha” isn’t quite working. That poster was saying there is an exodus from Herndon to south lakes.

People will seek a better option, not a great option. They are pupil placing to avoid Herndon, not to seek out IB at South Lakes.

Add AAP to Herndon MS and replace IB with AP at South Lakes and there would be more stability in the Herndon pyramid, fewer transfers to South Lakes, and improved results at both schools.

You’re responding to me and I absolutely agree. Before we going nuclear with boundaries, we should make these obvious fixes first.

This was posted on the prior board before it got locked. Based on 2023-2024 CIP, transfers out excluding TJ placements:

Mount Vernon 304
Herndon 263
Annandale 261
Lewis 193
Falls Church 185
Justice 182
Westfield 172
Hayfield 169
West Potomac 165
Robinson 158
South Lakes 150
Fairfax 137
Centreville 114
Marshall 105
South County 105
West Springfield 104
Edison 102
Lake Braddock 100
Langley 94
Oakton 84
Chantilly 70
Woodson 66
Madison 56
McLean 53

Clear pattern as to which schools people are placing out of. If you stop this, those schools are near capacity and no need to move other kids in for “efficiency”. Plus, it is likely the better students transferring out, and keeping them at their base would improve scores at those schools.

Awesome! This means less comptetition for my high achieving kid at Herndon.

Tell Robyn Lady you like things at Herndon exactly the way they are now. Clearly there's no need to either change the boundaries or repatriate the Herndon-zoned kids at other schools.

They can’t have schools running at 80%, so they either will bring zoned kids back or move new kids in.

DP. Makes zero sense to import new kids when all that needs to be done (if anything) is bring back the zoned kids. But this SB lacks common sense, so I doubt they even realize this.

You're responding to a dopey post. They have a lot of schools under 85% capacity, and that's not an issue unless the school is so small that it can't offer the basics.

You don’t seem very smart. Obviously it is an issue if some schools are at 130% utilization and others, like Herndon, are projected to be below 80% next year per the recent CIP. But if all the transfers are returned to Herndon, it will be at 96% capacity.

The CIP projections are unreliable. If I’ve learned anything through this process, it’s that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[google]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

IB will change to fewer schools- mostly on the eastern part of the county. South Lakes and Marshall are well placed to keep theirs.

If you took a survey of current South Lakes parents (in boundary only) they would vote overwhelmingly against IB in favor of AP.

If you leave IB at South Lakes, you will continue to have mass exit from Herndon.

Hold up, I thought there was a mass exit from Herndon elsewhere - because Herndon is so terrible. I am so confused. Which is it? Is Herndon a HS people transfer into or out of?

DP, your “gotcha” isn’t quite working. That poster was saying there is an exodus from Herndon to south lakes.

People will seek a better option, not a great option. They are pupil placing to avoid Herndon, not to seek out IB at South Lakes.

Add AAP to Herndon MS and replace IB with AP at South Lakes and there would be more stability in the Herndon pyramid, fewer transfers to South Lakes, and improved results at both schools.

You’re responding to me and I absolutely agree. Before we going nuclear with boundaries, we should make these obvious fixes first.

This was posted on the prior board before it got locked. Based on 2023-2024 CIP, transfers out excluding TJ placements:

Mount Vernon 304
Herndon 263
Annandale 261
Lewis 193
Falls Church 185
Justice 182
Westfield 172
Hayfield 169
West Potomac 165
Robinson 158
South Lakes 150
Fairfax 137
Centreville 114
Marshall 105
South County 105
West Springfield 104
Edison 102
Lake Braddock 100
Langley 94
Oakton 84
Chantilly 70
Woodson 66
Madison 56
McLean 53

Clear pattern as to which schools people are placing out of. If you stop this, those schools are near capacity and no need to move other kids in for “efficiency”. Plus, it is likely the better students transferring out, and keeping them at their base would improve scores at those schools.

Awesome! This means less comptetition for my high achieving kid at Herndon.

Tell Robyn Lady you like things at Herndon exactly the way they are now. Clearly there's no need to either change the boundaries or repatriate the Herndon-zoned kids at other schools.

They can’t have schools running at 80%, so they either will bring zoned kids back or move new kids in.

DP. Makes zero sense to import new kids when all that needs to be done (if anything) is bring back the zoned kids. But this SB lacks common sense, so I doubt they even realize this.

You're responding to a dopey post. They have a lot of schools under 85% capacity, and that's not an issue unless the school is so small that it can't offer the basics.

You don’t seem very smart. Obviously it is an issue if some schools are at 130% utilization and others, like Herndon, are projected to be below 80% next year per the recent CIP. But if all the transfers are returned to Herndon, it will be at 96% capacity.

The CIP projections are unreliable. If I’ve learned anything through this process, it’s that.

I think we all agree with that, but who cares what we think? That is what the school board is using for the boundary study. If you ignore that premise, you arent offering any constructive feedback.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[google]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

IB will change to fewer schools- mostly on the eastern part of the county. South Lakes and Marshall are well placed to keep theirs.

If you took a survey of current South Lakes parents (in boundary only) they would vote overwhelmingly against IB in favor of AP.

If you leave IB at South Lakes, you will continue to have mass exit from Herndon.

Hold up, I thought there was a mass exit from Herndon elsewhere - because Herndon is so terrible. I am so confused. Which is it? Is Herndon a HS people transfer into or out of?

DP, your “gotcha” isn’t quite working. That poster was saying there is an exodus from Herndon to south lakes.

People will seek a better option, not a great option. They are pupil placing to avoid Herndon, not to seek out IB at South Lakes.

Add AAP to Herndon MS and replace IB with AP at South Lakes and there would be more stability in the Herndon pyramid, fewer transfers to South Lakes, and improved results at both schools.

You’re responding to me and I absolutely agree. Before we going nuclear with boundaries, we should make these obvious fixes first.

This was posted on the prior board before it got locked. Based on 2023-2024 CIP, transfers out excluding TJ placements:

Mount Vernon 304
Herndon 263
Annandale 261
Lewis 193
Falls Church 185
Justice 182
Westfield 172
Hayfield 169
West Potomac 165
Robinson 158
South Lakes 150
Fairfax 137
Centreville 114
Marshall 105
South County 105
West Springfield 104
Edison 102
Lake Braddock 100
Langley 94
Oakton 84
Chantilly 70
Woodson 66
Madison 56
McLean 53

Clear pattern as to which schools people are placing out of. If you stop this, those schools are near capacity and no need to move other kids in for “efficiency”. Plus, it is likely the better students transferring out, and keeping them at their base would improve scores at those schools.

Awesome! This means less comptetition for my high achieving kid at Herndon.

Tell Robyn Lady you like things at Herndon exactly the way they are now. Clearly there's no need to either change the boundaries or repatriate the Herndon-zoned kids at other schools.

They can’t have schools running at 80%, so they either will bring zoned kids back or move new kids in.

DP. Makes zero sense to import new kids when all that needs to be done (if anything) is bring back the zoned kids. But this SB lacks common sense, so I doubt they even realize this.

You're responding to a dopey post. They have a lot of schools under 85% capacity, and that's not an issue unless the school is so small that it can't offer the basics.

You don’t seem very smart. Obviously it is an issue if some schools are at 130% utilization and others, like Herndon, are projected to be below 80% next year per the recent CIP. But if all the transfers are returned to Herndon, it will be at 96% capacity.

Smart people operate with facts. There isn't a single high school in FCPS at 130% capacity or greater, nor projected to be.

Moving around kids just to put Herndon at 96% capacity does nothing other than cover the asses of those responsible for an over-expansion of HHS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[google]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

IB will change to fewer schools- mostly on the eastern part of the county. South Lakes and Marshall are well placed to keep theirs.

If you took a survey of current South Lakes parents (in boundary only) they would vote overwhelmingly against IB in favor of AP.

If you leave IB at South Lakes, you will continue to have mass exit from Herndon.

Hold up, I thought there was a mass exit from Herndon elsewhere - because Herndon is so terrible. I am so confused. Which is it? Is Herndon a HS people transfer into or out of?

DP, your “gotcha” isn’t quite working. That poster was saying there is an exodus from Herndon to south lakes.

People will seek a better option, not a great option. They are pupil placing to avoid Herndon, not to seek out IB at South Lakes.

Add AAP to Herndon MS and replace IB with AP at South Lakes and there would be more stability in the Herndon pyramid, fewer transfers to South Lakes, and improved results at both schools.

You’re responding to me and I absolutely agree. Before we going nuclear with boundaries, we should make these obvious fixes first.

This was posted on the prior board before it got locked. Based on 2023-2024 CIP, transfers out excluding TJ placements:

Mount Vernon 304
Herndon 263
Annandale 261
Lewis 193
Falls Church 185
Justice 182
Westfield 172
Hayfield 169
West Potomac 165
Robinson 158
South Lakes 150
Fairfax 137
Centreville 114
Marshall 105
South County 105
West Springfield 104
Edison 102
Lake Braddock 100
Langley 94
Oakton 84
Chantilly 70
Woodson 66
Madison 56
McLean 53

Clear pattern as to which schools people are placing out of. If you stop this, those schools are near capacity and no need to move other kids in for “efficiency”. Plus, it is likely the better students transferring out, and keeping them at their base would improve scores at those schools.

Awesome! This means less comptetition for my high achieving kid at Herndon.

Tell Robyn Lady you like things at Herndon exactly the way they are now. Clearly there's no need to either change the boundaries or repatriate the Herndon-zoned kids at other schools.

They can’t have schools running at 80%, so they either will bring zoned kids back or move new kids in.

DP. Makes zero sense to import new kids when all that needs to be done (if anything) is bring back the zoned kids. But this SB lacks common sense, so I doubt they even realize this.

You're responding to a dopey post. They have a lot of schools under 85% capacity, and that's not an issue unless the school is so small that it can't offer the basics.

You don’t seem very smart. Obviously it is an issue if some schools are at 130% utilization and others, like Herndon, are projected to be below 80% next year per the recent CIP. But if all the transfers are returned to Herndon, it will be at 96% capacity.

The CIP projections are unreliable. If I’ve learned anything through this process, it’s that.

I think we all agree with that, but who cares what we think? That is what the school board is using for the boundary study. If you ignore that premise, you arent offering any constructive feedback.

Hold the phone, you think calling out the faulty projections is not offering any constructive feedback?

That is quite literally the definition of constructive feedback.

The point is that BRAC should be very skeptical of using any projections coming out of the CIP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[google]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

IB will change to fewer schools- mostly on the eastern part of the county. South Lakes and Marshall are well placed to keep theirs.

If you took a survey of current South Lakes parents (in boundary only) they would vote overwhelmingly against IB in favor of AP.

If you leave IB at South Lakes, you will continue to have mass exit from Herndon.

Hold up, I thought there was a mass exit from Herndon elsewhere - because Herndon is so terrible. I am so confused. Which is it? Is Herndon a HS people transfer into or out of?

DP, your “gotcha” isn’t quite working. That poster was saying there is an exodus from Herndon to south lakes.

People will seek a better option, not a great option. They are pupil placing to avoid Herndon, not to seek out IB at South Lakes.

Add AAP to Herndon MS and replace IB with AP at South Lakes and there would be more stability in the Herndon pyramid, fewer transfers to South Lakes, and improved results at both schools.

You’re responding to me and I absolutely agree. Before we going nuclear with boundaries, we should make these obvious fixes first.

This was posted on the prior board before it got locked. Based on 2023-2024 CIP, transfers out excluding TJ placements:

Mount Vernon 304
Herndon 263
Annandale 261
Lewis 193
Falls Church 185
Justice 182
Westfield 172
Hayfield 169
West Potomac 165
Robinson 158
South Lakes 150
Fairfax 137
Centreville 114
Marshall 105
South County 105
West Springfield 104
Edison 102
Lake Braddock 100
Langley 94
Oakton 84
Chantilly 70
Woodson 66
Madison 56
McLean 53

Clear pattern as to which schools people are placing out of. If you stop this, those schools are near capacity and no need to move other kids in for “efficiency”. Plus, it is likely the better students transferring out, and keeping them at their base would improve scores at those schools.

Awesome! This means less comptetition for my high achieving kid at Herndon.

Tell Robyn Lady you like things at Herndon exactly the way they are now. Clearly there's no need to either change the boundaries or repatriate the Herndon-zoned kids at other schools.

They can’t have schools running at 80%, so they either will bring zoned kids back or move new kids in.

DP. Makes zero sense to import new kids when all that needs to be done (if anything) is bring back the zoned kids. But this SB lacks common sense, so I doubt they even realize this.

You're responding to a dopey post. They have a lot of schools under 85% capacity, and that's not an issue unless the school is so small that it can't offer the basics.

You don’t seem very smart. Obviously it is an issue if some schools are at 130% utilization and others, like Herndon, are projected to be below 80% next year per the recent CIP. But if all the transfers are returned to Herndon, it will be at 96% capacity.

Smart people operate with facts. There isn't a single high school in FCPS at 130% capacity or greater, nor projected to be.

Moving around kids just to put Herndon at 96% capacity does nothing other than cover the asses of those responsible for an over-expansion of HHS.

Moving kids back to their home school so the SB doesn't have to move other kids to the school those kids fled makes sense to me.

Sounds to me like your kid transferred out of Herndon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[google]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

IB will change to fewer schools- mostly on the eastern part of the county. South Lakes and Marshall are well placed to keep theirs.

If you took a survey of current South Lakes parents (in boundary only) they would vote overwhelmingly against IB in favor of AP.

If you leave IB at South Lakes, you will continue to have mass exit from Herndon.

Hold up, I thought there was a mass exit from Herndon elsewhere - because Herndon is so terrible. I am so confused. Which is it? Is Herndon a HS people transfer into or out of?

DP, your “gotcha” isn’t quite working. That poster was saying there is an exodus from Herndon to south lakes.

People will seek a better option, not a great option. They are pupil placing to avoid Herndon, not to seek out IB at South Lakes.

Add AAP to Herndon MS and replace IB with AP at South Lakes and there would be more stability in the Herndon pyramid, fewer transfers to South Lakes, and improved results at both schools.

You’re responding to me and I absolutely agree. Before we going nuclear with boundaries, we should make these obvious fixes first.

This was posted on the prior board before it got locked. Based on 2023-2024 CIP, transfers out excluding TJ placements:

Mount Vernon 304
Herndon 263
Annandale 261
Lewis 193
Falls Church 185
Justice 182
Westfield 172
Hayfield 169
West Potomac 165
Robinson 158
South Lakes 150
Fairfax 137
Centreville 114
Marshall 105
South County 105
West Springfield 104
Edison 102
Lake Braddock 100
Langley 94
Oakton 84
Chantilly 70
Woodson 66
Madison 56
McLean 53

Clear pattern as to which schools people are placing out of. If you stop this, those schools are near capacity and no need to move other kids in for “efficiency”. Plus, it is likely the better students transferring out, and keeping them at their base would improve scores at those schools.

Awesome! This means less comptetition for my high achieving kid at Herndon.

Tell Robyn Lady you like things at Herndon exactly the way they are now. Clearly there's no need to either change the boundaries or repatriate the Herndon-zoned kids at other schools.

They can’t have schools running at 80%, so they either will bring zoned kids back or move new kids in.

DP. Makes zero sense to import new kids when all that needs to be done (if anything) is bring back the zoned kids. But this SB lacks common sense, so I doubt they even realize this.

You're responding to a dopey post. They have a lot of schools under 85% capacity, and that's not an issue unless the school is so small that it can't offer the basics.

You don’t seem very smart. Obviously it is an issue if some schools are at 130% utilization and others, like Herndon, are projected to be below 80% next year per the recent CIP. But if all the transfers are returned to Herndon, it will be at 96% capacity.

The CIP projections are unreliable. If I’ve learned anything through this process, it’s that.

I think we all agree with that, but who cares what we think? That is what the school board is using for the boundary study. If you ignore that premise, you arent offering any constructive feedback.

Hold the phone, you think calling out the faulty projections is not offering any constructive feedback?

That is quite literally the definition of constructive feedback.

The point is that BRAC should be very skeptical of using any projections coming out of the CIP.

The BRAC has no authority and is completely powerless. It is a sham. If you have some facts to show the projections are flawed, then that could be constructive if there were some way to challenge the CIP. But just ignoring the CIP and hoping that the SB isn't planning to use those numbers with its hand-picked no bid consultant is just crazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[google]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

IB will change to fewer schools- mostly on the eastern part of the county. South Lakes and Marshall are well placed to keep theirs.

If you took a survey of current South Lakes parents (in boundary only) they would vote overwhelmingly against IB in favor of AP.

If you leave IB at South Lakes, you will continue to have mass exit from Herndon.

Hold up, I thought there was a mass exit from Herndon elsewhere - because Herndon is so terrible. I am so confused. Which is it? Is Herndon a HS people transfer into or out of?

DP, your “gotcha” isn’t quite working. That poster was saying there is an exodus from Herndon to south lakes.

People will seek a better option, not a great option. They are pupil placing to avoid Herndon, not to seek out IB at South Lakes.

Add AAP to Herndon MS and replace IB with AP at South Lakes and there would be more stability in the Herndon pyramid, fewer transfers to South Lakes, and improved results at both schools.

You’re responding to me and I absolutely agree. Before we going nuclear with boundaries, we should make these obvious fixes first.

This was posted on the prior board before it got locked. Based on 2023-2024 CIP, transfers out excluding TJ placements:

Mount Vernon 304
Herndon 263
Annandale 261
Lewis 193
Falls Church 185
Justice 182
Westfield 172
Hayfield 169
West Potomac 165
Robinson 158
South Lakes 150
Fairfax 137
Centreville 114
Marshall 105
South County 105
West Springfield 104
Edison 102
Lake Braddock 100
Langley 94
Oakton 84
Chantilly 70
Woodson 66
Madison 56
McLean 53

Clear pattern as to which schools people are placing out of. If you stop this, those schools are near capacity and no need to move other kids in for “efficiency”. Plus, it is likely the better students transferring out, and keeping them at their base would improve scores at those schools.

Awesome! This means less comptetition for my high achieving kid at Herndon.

Tell Robyn Lady you like things at Herndon exactly the way they are now. Clearly there's no need to either change the boundaries or repatriate the Herndon-zoned kids at other schools.

They can’t have schools running at 80%, so they either will bring zoned kids back or move new kids in.

DP. Makes zero sense to import new kids when all that needs to be done (if anything) is bring back the zoned kids. But this SB lacks common sense, so I doubt they even realize this.

You're responding to a dopey post. They have a lot of schools under 85% capacity, and that's not an issue unless the school is so small that it can't offer the basics.

You don’t seem very smart. Obviously it is an issue if some schools are at 130% utilization and others, like Herndon, are projected to be below 80% next year per the recent CIP. But if all the transfers are returned to Herndon, it will be at 96% capacity.

The CIP projections are unreliable. If I’ve learned anything through this process, it’s that.

I think we all agree with that, but who cares what we think? That is what the school board is using for the boundary study. If you ignore that premise, you arent offering any constructive feedback.

Hold the phone, you think calling out the faulty projections is not offering any constructive feedback?

That is quite literally the definition of constructive feedback.

The point is that BRAC should be very skeptical of using any projections coming out of the CIP.

The BRAC has no authority and is completely powerless. It is a sham. If you have some facts to show the projections are flawed, then that could be constructive if there were some way to challenge the CIP. But just ignoring the CIP and hoping that the SB isn't planning to use those numbers with its hand-picked no bid consultant is just crazy.

But I’m not ignoring the CIP. I’m calling them out in the shoddy projections contained therein. Ignoring the FLAWS in the CIP is quite literally what you are advocating for.

Look, I get that the SB has their own agenda, and it’ll be tough to dissuade it from that course, but your argument that it’s futile so why bother doesn’t work for me, so I’ll do what I can to advocate against the ill-conceived boundary changes, and then if they go through, I’ll spend lots of time money and effort to work against the Democratic Party that pushed for these boundary changes and will doggedly support any opponent of the current school board members in future elections.