FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Anonymous wrote:I wish boundary review opponents would stop coopting every fcps issue with their single issue focus. It does a big disservice to fcps and all of us. The boundaries need to be reviewed and there are other valid issues happening in fcps.

I know this hard to understand, but if FCPS doesn’t first make decisions on things such as AAP Centers, How many, if any IB programs, will MS go to 6-8, then any boundary study result will be essentially meaningless.

But reason and logic are not going to stop a bunch of clowns from putting on a clown show.

My prediction, some of the above is going to happen with this boundary change.

Most AAP centers will go- keeping the ones where the feeder ES’s do not have robust LL.
IB will change to fewer schools- mostly on the eastern part of the county. South Lakes and Marshall are well placed to keep theirs.
MS will not go to 6-8 this round, but hopes will stay for the next round in 5 years, OR they will implement it like they did full day kindergarten and change the ones that work now, and see if more can be changed in the next round.
IB and AAP changes are the easiest to implement when they do a district wide boundary adjustment.

I will add, they can also do the streamlining of classes at the same time - same three foreign languages at all HS and same AP offererings all AP high schools too.

That will put some foreign language teachers out of work. Also, you might have trouble filling positions for the same three languages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Boundary changes are moving forward. Trying to stop them because of meritless accusations against a single school board member is fruitless. FCPS has invested a lot of money in the process. Demographic and other changes to the area make it necessary for the board to take action now.

Gotta love the idiocy of the people who claim that boundary changes are “necessary” despite never articulating why. Boundary change proponents are clowns and hypocrites who would never want their own kids moved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Boundary changes are moving forward. Trying to stop them because of meritless accusations against a single school board member is fruitless. FCPS has invested a lot of money in the process. Demographic and other changes to the area make it necessary for the board to take action now.

Is crooked McDaniel volunteering to get his Crossfield neighborhood rezoned from Oakton to South Lakes?

[Anonymous]

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IB will change to fewer schools- mostly on the eastern part of the county. South Lakes and Marshall are well placed to keep theirs.

If you took a survey of current South Lakes parents (in boundary only) they would vote overwhelmingly against IB in favor of AP.

If you leave IB at South Lakes, you will continue to have mass exit from Herndon.

Hold up, I thought there was a mass exit from Herndon elsewhere - because Herndon is so terrible. I am so confused. Which is it? Is Herndon a HS people transfer into or out of?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Boundary changes are moving forward. Trying to stop them because of meritless accusations against a single school board member is fruitless. FCPS has invested a lot of money in the process. Demographic and other changes to the area make it necessary for the board to take action now.

Gotta love the idiocy of the people who claim that boundary changes are “necessary” despite never articulating why. Boundary change proponents are clowns and hypocrites who would never want their own kids moved.

Have you ever looked at the boundaries? So many make no sense. I think it is time to do a reassessment. I think we will find that the majority of student will stay at their current zoned ES, and at their current zoned MS, and at their current zoned HS - many of the anomalies will be eliminated. I think it is good to look at the whole picture so that we can see that a change here doesn’t cause another issue somewhere else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

IB will change to fewer schools- mostly on the eastern part of the county. South Lakes and Marshall are well placed to keep theirs.

If you took a survey of current South Lakes parents (in boundary only) they would vote overwhelmingly against IB in favor of AP.

If you leave IB at South Lakes, you will continue to have mass exit from Herndon.

Hold up, I thought there was a mass exit from Herndon elsewhere - because Herndon is so terrible. I am so confused. Which is it? Is Herndon a HS people transfer into or out of?

DP, your “gotcha” isn’t quite working. That poster was saying there is an exodus from Herndon to south lakes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Boundary changes are moving forward. Trying to stop them because of meritless accusations against a single school board member is fruitless. FCPS has invested a lot of money in the process. Demographic and other changes to the area make it necessary for the board to take action now.

Gotta love the idiocy of the people who claim that boundary changes are “necessary” despite never articulating why. Boundary change proponents are clowns and hypocrites who would never want their own kids moved.

Have you ever looked at the boundaries? So many make no sense. I think it is time to do a reassessment. I think we will find that the majority of student will stay at their current zoned ES, and at their current zoned MS, and at their current zoned HS - many of the anomalies will be eliminated. I think it is good to look at the whole picture so that we can see that a change here doesn’t cause another issue somewhere else.

Nice attempt at a pivot, but the prior poster mentioned necessity, and that’s clearly not true. Sure you might prefer to move other people’s kids (of course not your own), but your preference to do so because the map looks a little weird is certainly not the necessity that was claimed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

IB will change to fewer schools- mostly on the eastern part of the county. South Lakes and Marshall are well placed to keep theirs.

If you took a survey of current South Lakes parents (in boundary only) they would vote overwhelmingly against IB in favor of AP.

If you leave IB at South Lakes, you will continue to have mass exit from Herndon.

Hold up, I thought there was a mass exit from Herndon elsewhere - because Herndon is so terrible. I am so confused. Which is it? Is Herndon a HS people transfer into or out of?

DP, your “gotcha” isn’t quite working. That poster was saying there is an exodus from Herndon to south lakes.

People will seek a better option, not a great option. They are pupil placing to avoid Herndon, not to seek out IB at South Lakes.

Add AAP to Herndon MS and replace IB with AP at South Lakes and there would be more stability in the Herndon pyramid, fewer transfers to South Lakes, and improved results at both schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

IB will change to fewer schools- mostly on the eastern part of the county. South Lakes and Marshall are well placed to keep theirs.

If you took a survey of current South Lakes parents (in boundary only) they would vote overwhelmingly against IB in favor of AP.

If you leave IB at South Lakes, you will continue to have mass exit from Herndon.

Hold up, I thought there was a mass exit from Herndon elsewhere - because Herndon is so terrible. I am so confused. Which is it? Is Herndon a HS people transfer into or out of?

DP, your “gotcha” isn’t quite working. That poster was saying there is an exodus from Herndon to south lakes.

People will seek a better option, not a great option. They are pupil placing to avoid Herndon, not to seek out IB at South Lakes.

Add AAP to Herndon MS and replace IB with AP at South Lakes and there would be more stability in the Herndon pyramid, fewer transfers to South Lakes, and improved results at both schools.

You’re responding to me and I absolutely agree. Before we going nuclear with boundaries, we should make these obvious fixes first.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

IB will change to fewer schools- mostly on the eastern part of the county. South Lakes and Marshall are well placed to keep theirs.

If you took a survey of current South Lakes parents (in boundary only) they would vote overwhelmingly against IB in favor of AP.

If you leave IB at South Lakes, you will continue to have mass exit from Herndon.

Hold up, I thought there was a mass exit from Herndon elsewhere - because Herndon is so terrible. I am so confused. Which is it? Is Herndon a HS people transfer into or out of?

DP, your “gotcha” isn’t quite working. That poster was saying there is an exodus from Herndon to south lakes.

People will seek a better option, not a great option. They are pupil placing to avoid Herndon, not to seek out IB at South Lakes.

Add AAP to Herndon MS and replace IB with AP at South Lakes and there would be more stability in the Herndon pyramid, fewer transfers to South Lakes, and improved results at both schools.

You’re responding to me and I absolutely agree. Before we going nuclear with boundaries, we should make these obvious fixes first.

This was posted on the prior board before it got locked. Based on 2023-2024 CIP, transfers out excluding TJ placements:

Mount Vernon 304
Herndon 263
Annandale 261
Lewis 193
Falls Church 185
Justice 182
Westfield 172
Hayfield 169
West Potomac 165
Robinson 158
South Lakes 150
Fairfax 137
Centreville 114
Marshall 105
South County 105
West Springfield 104
Edison 102
Lake Braddock 100
Langley 94
Oakton 84
Chantilly 70
Woodson 66
Madison 56
McLean 53

Clear pattern as to which schools people are placing out of. If you stop this, those schools are near capacity and no need to move other kids in for “efficiency”. Plus, it is likely the better students transferring out, and keeping them at their base would improve scores at those schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

IB will change to fewer schools- mostly on the eastern part of the county. South Lakes and Marshall are well placed to keep theirs.

If you took a survey of current South Lakes parents (in boundary only) they would vote overwhelmingly against IB in favor of AP.

If you leave IB at South Lakes, you will continue to have mass exit from Herndon.

Hold up, I thought there was a mass exit from Herndon elsewhere - because Herndon is so terrible. I am so confused. Which is it? Is Herndon a HS people transfer into or out of?

DP, your “gotcha” isn’t quite working. That poster was saying there is an exodus from Herndon to south lakes.

People will seek a better option, not a great option. They are pupil placing to avoid Herndon, not to seek out IB at South Lakes.

Add AAP to Herndon MS and replace IB with AP at South Lakes and there would be more stability in the Herndon pyramid, fewer transfers to South Lakes, and improved results at both schools.

You’re responding to me and I absolutely agree. Before we going nuclear with boundaries, we should make these obvious fixes first.

This was posted on the prior board before it got locked. Based on 2023-2024 CIP, transfers out excluding TJ placements:

Mount Vernon 304
Herndon 263
Annandale 261
Lewis 193
Falls Church 185
Justice 182
Westfield 172
Hayfield 169
West Potomac 165
Robinson 158
South Lakes 150
Fairfax 137
Centreville 114
Marshall 105
South County 105
West Springfield 104
Edison 102
Lake Braddock 100
Langley 94
Oakton 84
Chantilly 70
Woodson 66
Madison 56
McLean 53

Clear pattern as to which schools people are placing out of. If you stop this, those schools are near capacity and no need to move other kids in for “efficiency”. Plus, it is likely the better students transferring out, and keeping them at their base would improve scores at those schools.

High correlation with poor ESL population. This is what happens with rapid, uncontrolled immigration. Root cause.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

IB will change to fewer schools- mostly on the eastern part of the county. South Lakes and Marshall are well placed to keep theirs.

If you took a survey of current South Lakes parents (in boundary only) they would vote overwhelmingly against IB in favor of AP.

If you leave IB at South Lakes, you will continue to have mass exit from Herndon.

Hold up, I thought there was a mass exit from Herndon elsewhere - because Herndon is so terrible. I am so confused. Which is it? Is Herndon a HS people transfer into or out of?

DP, your “gotcha” isn’t quite working. That poster was saying there is an exodus from Herndon to south lakes.

People will seek a better option, not a great option. They are pupil placing to avoid Herndon, not to seek out IB at South Lakes.

Add AAP to Herndon MS and replace IB with AP at South Lakes and there would be more stability in the Herndon pyramid, fewer transfers to South Lakes, and improved results at both schools.

You’re responding to me and I absolutely agree. Before we going nuclear with boundaries, we should make these obvious fixes first.

This was posted on the prior board before it got locked. Based on 2023-2024 CIP, transfers out excluding TJ placements:

Mount Vernon 304
Herndon 263
Annandale 261
Lewis 193
Falls Church 185
Justice 182
Westfield 172
Hayfield 169
West Potomac 165
Robinson 158
South Lakes 150
Fairfax 137
Centreville 114
Marshall 105
South County 105
West Springfield 104
Edison 102
Lake Braddock 100
Langley 94
Oakton 84
Chantilly 70
Woodson 66
Madison 56
McLean 53

Clear pattern as to which schools people are placing out of. If you stop this, those schools are near capacity and no need to move other kids in for “efficiency”. Plus, it is likely the better students transferring out, and keeping them at their base would improve scores at those schools.

The Langley numbers are inflated because FCPS reported the grandfathered McLean kids in the neighborhoods moved to Langley in 2021 as if they were transferring from Langley.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

IB will change to fewer schools- mostly on the eastern part of the county. South Lakes and Marshall are well placed to keep theirs.

If you took a survey of current South Lakes parents (in boundary only) they would vote overwhelmingly against IB in favor of AP.

If you leave IB at South Lakes, you will continue to have mass exit from Herndon.

Hold up, I thought there was a mass exit from Herndon elsewhere - because Herndon is so terrible. I am so confused. Which is it? Is Herndon a HS people transfer into or out of?

DP, your “gotcha” isn’t quite working. That poster was saying there is an exodus from Herndon to south lakes.

People will seek a better option, not a great option. They are pupil placing to avoid Herndon, not to seek out IB at South Lakes.

Add AAP to Herndon MS and replace IB with AP at South Lakes and there would be more stability in the Herndon pyramid, fewer transfers to South Lakes, and improved results at both schools.

You’re responding to me and I absolutely agree. Before we going nuclear with boundaries, we should make these obvious fixes first.

This was posted on the prior board before it got locked. Based on 2023-2024 CIP, transfers out excluding TJ placements:

Mount Vernon 304
Herndon 263
Annandale 261
Lewis 193
Falls Church 185
Justice 182
Westfield 172
Hayfield 169
West Potomac 165
Robinson 158
South Lakes 150
Fairfax 137
Centreville 114
Marshall 105
South County 105
West Springfield 104
Edison 102
Lake Braddock 100
Langley 94
Oakton 84
Chantilly 70
Woodson 66
Madison 56
McLean 53

Clear pattern as to which schools people are placing out of. If you stop this, those schools are near capacity and no need to move other kids in for “efficiency”. Plus, it is likely the better students transferring out, and keeping them at their base would improve scores at those schools.

Awesome! This means less comptetition for my high achieving kid at Herndon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

IB will change to fewer schools- mostly on the eastern part of the county. South Lakes and Marshall are well placed to keep theirs.

If you took a survey of current South Lakes parents (in boundary only) they would vote overwhelmingly against IB in favor of AP.

If you leave IB at South Lakes, you will continue to have mass exit from Herndon.

Hold up, I thought there was a mass exit from Herndon elsewhere - because Herndon is so terrible. I am so confused. Which is it? Is Herndon a HS people transfer into or out of?

DP, your “gotcha” isn’t quite working. That poster was saying there is an exodus from Herndon to south lakes.

People will seek a better option, not a great option. They are pupil placing to avoid Herndon, not to seek out IB at South Lakes.

Add AAP to Herndon MS and replace IB with AP at South Lakes and there would be more stability in the Herndon pyramid, fewer transfers to South Lakes, and improved results at both schools.

You’re responding to me and I absolutely agree. Before we going nuclear with boundaries, we should make these obvious fixes first.

This was posted on the prior board before it got locked. Based on 2023-2024 CIP, transfers out excluding TJ placements:

Mount Vernon 304
Herndon 263
Annandale 261
Lewis 193
Falls Church 185
Justice 182
Westfield 172
Hayfield 169
West Potomac 165
Robinson 158
South Lakes 150
Fairfax 137
Centreville 114
Marshall 105
South County 105
West Springfield 104
Edison 102
Lake Braddock 100
Langley 94
Oakton 84
Chantilly 70
Woodson 66
Madison 56
McLean 53

Clear pattern as to which schools people are placing out of. If you stop this, those schools are near capacity and no need to move other kids in for “efficiency”. Plus, it is likely the better students transferring out, and keeping them at their base would improve scores at those schools.

Awesome! This means less comptetition for my high achieving kid at Herndon.

Tell Robyn Lady you like things at Herndon exactly the way they are now. Clearly there's no need to either change the boundaries or repatriate the Herndon-zoned kids at other schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

IB will change to fewer schools- mostly on the eastern part of the county. South Lakes and Marshall are well placed to keep theirs.

If you took a survey of current South Lakes parents (in boundary only) they would vote overwhelmingly against IB in favor of AP.

If you leave IB at South Lakes, you will continue to have mass exit from Herndon.

Hold up, I thought there was a mass exit from Herndon elsewhere - because Herndon is so terrible. I am so confused. Which is it? Is Herndon a HS people transfer into or out of?

DP, your “gotcha” isn’t quite working. That poster was saying there is an exodus from Herndon to south lakes.

People will seek a better option, not a great option. They are pupil placing to avoid Herndon, not to seek out IB at South Lakes.

Add AAP to Herndon MS and replace IB with AP at South Lakes and there would be more stability in the Herndon pyramid, fewer transfers to South Lakes, and improved results at both schools.

You’re responding to me and I absolutely agree. Before we going nuclear with boundaries, we should make these obvious fixes first.

This was posted on the prior board before it got locked. Based on 2023-2024 CIP, transfers out excluding TJ placements:

Mount Vernon 304
Herndon 263
Annandale 261
Lewis 193
Falls Church 185
Justice 182
Westfield 172
Hayfield 169
West Potomac 165
Robinson 158
South Lakes 150
Fairfax 137
Centreville 114
Marshall 105
South County 105
West Springfield 104
Edison 102
Lake Braddock 100
Langley 94
Oakton 84
Chantilly 70
Woodson 66
Madison 56
McLean 53

Clear pattern as to which schools people are placing out of. If you stop this, those schools are near capacity and no need to move other kids in for “efficiency”. Plus, it is likely the better students transferring out, and keeping them at their base would improve scores at those schools.

Awesome! This means less comptetition for my high achieving kid at Herndon.

Tell Robyn Lady you like things at Herndon exactly the way they are now. Clearly there's no need to either change the boundaries or repatriate the Herndon-zoned kids at other schools.

They can’t have schools running at 80%, so they either will bring zoned kids back or move new kids in.