Gaza War, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting how limousine liberals are supporting those that will lock up LGBTQ members and stone them to death. I fail to see the logic of whom they choose to support.

You’re right. We should support the country that burns newborns and toddlers with 1,000 degree Fahrenheit phosporous bombs and 2,000 pound bombs.

LGBT Gazans were posting on social media and writing love letters to their dead love interests and cursing Israel. It’s funny how this is the only weak argument Israel can use. Do they forget gay Palestinians also get killed mostly by Israel not Hamas?

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Hamas doesn’t kill gay men . They use them to apply for asylum in Israel and to be their spies inside Israel. Israel isn’t paying attention to what Gazans say Hamas does as tactic

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Anonymous wrote:Shameful.

It's not pro-Hamas, and it's not shameful, it's perfectly appropriate.

Ok, go take part in this protest, and see what the immediate and near-term results are. Go for it.

But it would be better to think things through. What is this protest going to accomplish? You are going to go express yourself? Why would that change anyone's heart and mind? Yes, I know you think it should, but will it? Again, think this through, to what will probably happen, not to what you want to happen.

I hope it steps up public pressure on the Biden Administration to take a leadership role in negotiating a ceasefire, linking aid to Israel and Gaza to adhering to such a ceasefire, and linking aid to Israel to being to dismantle West Bank settlements and lifting of various embargoes on Gaza (such as the ridiculous one that bans surfboards).

The symbolism of this protest against genocide at the Holocaust Museum highlights how Israel has lost the moral high ground. The Holocaust was unmentionably horrific and “never again” should mean “never again” for any people.

There needs to be a fresh look.

What Israel is doing now makes the world less safe for Jews and is raising up the next generation of terrorists.

Can we at least all agree how each attack and counter attack has become worse and worse each round? I shudder to think what the Palestinian response will be after the dust settled on this round of IDF horrors.

No a protest at the Holocaust Musuem shows that you hate Jews, it is disrespectful act that you can only engage in toward a people you hate. You can dislike what a country is doing and not hate it or the people in it or the people para-affiliated with it. We in the U.S. do not have great relations with Russia or China, but most Americans do not hate Russian or Chinese people, we do not call them names in the internet, or seek to belittle their people's tragedies.

They dont hate jews! They hate that Israeli’s are indiscriminately killing kids!!!

Why is that so hard to get?

Stop blowing up entire blocks, churches, hospitals, refugee camps.

Israel has brought the global criticism 100% on itself by it’s unhinged behavior since Oct 7

They hate Jews. Why are they going to the Holocaust musuem? To show the Jews who's boss and that what happened then can happen now.

They are going there to show the world that the community that suffered the holocaust is too happy to do the same to Gazans the moment they had the power in their hands. And, don’t say that holocaust killed millions etc, that was over the course of 15 years, if Israelis are given the free rein and 15 years they are all too happy to meet those numbers.

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Stoning gays to death is a proverbial statement not a literal rule or even occurrence there and pro Israelis use that weak logic not realizing it can also apply to their settlers as well. Israeli settlers and homophobes like Ben Gvir also deserve to have their homes bombed by phosphorus bombs because they are homophobes or do Jewish homophobes not count?

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By February, you will not even watch the news about Gaza. I remember all the outrage over Ukraine, and nobody cares today at all.
I am not saying people should not care; I am just saying enough with idiotic posturing and finding a cause because you are bored and rich.
Sponsor some recent Afghan immigrants and house them if you are really that much of a caring person.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a barbaric part of the world driven by tribalism and hatred. But I don't want my tax money going to Israel any more than I'd want it going to Hamas. Let them fight it out on a level playing field without Uncle Sam bankrolling corrupt liars like Bibi Netanyahu.

Who cares about your tax cents (not dollars). The govt doesn't make decisions by taking proportional surveys of taxpayers (so in your world the rich would have a bigger say in things? People who don't pay taxes have no say?), we vote for people and entrust them to make decisions using their judgment.

Tax cents? Well, the objection U.S. taxpayers have to supporting an apartheid regime that will not stop dragging us into its pathetic orbit of misery is based on a lot more than just financial considerations, but just to be clear about something …

Inflation-adjusted annual average of $4.2B in direct financial welfare to Israel from 1946-2022 (which will be 4-5x that figure in 2023), divided by total U.S. income tax revenue of 2.6T in 2022. If any taxpayer had as little as $625.00 in federal income taxes remitted to the U.S. government in 2022, their contribution to this abomination of a welfare state was at least $1.00 - and that’s from someone earning less than $15K annually.

For a taxpayer earning at least $100K, the contribution is closer to $28.00, and for a taxpayer earning at least $250K, the contribution is closer to $92.00 annually.

It’s not “tax cents” for most Americans. And, of course, we cannot put a proper price tag on the fact that the U.S. has wasted full 1/2 of its security council dry powder at the U.N. running veto interference on Israel’s behalf, or the fact that OIF cost Americans over $750B but also countless active duty lives, all thanks to intentionally false “intelligence” manufactured by “our ally” Israel.

Now, then. STFU.

STFU? Why someone is making commands to an internet stranger and being vulgar at the same time!

You don't have to work, then you won't pay taxes, your problem solved. I guess that can be your form of protests? The rest of us will work.

Also, people who don't pay taxes have no say in your U.S.? so in your world the rich would have a bigger say in things? Note, we vote for people and entrust them to make decisions using their judgment--politicians do not take polls of taxpayers.

You failed to mention the critical part where we vote for people and entrust them to make decisions using their judgment, “but what they actually do is make decisions based solely on the amount of money they are provided by special interests groups”.

So, yeah - in the U.S., it’s not just that the rich (i.e., special interests groups and lobbyists) have a “bigger say in things”, they have the only say … until Election Day, that is.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a barbaric part of the world driven by tribalism and hatred. But I don't want my tax money going to Israel any more than I'd want it going to Hamas. Let them fight it out on a level playing field without Uncle Sam bankrolling corrupt liars like Bibi Netanyahu.

Who cares about your tax cents (not dollars). The govt doesn't make decisions by taking proportional surveys of taxpayers (so in your world the rich would have a bigger say in things? People who don't pay taxes have no say?), we vote for people and entrust them to make decisions using their judgment.

Tax cents? Well, the objection U.S. taxpayers have to supporting an apartheid regime that will not stop dragging us into its pathetic orbit of misery is based on a lot more than just financial considerations, but just to be clear about something …

Inflation-adjusted annual average of $4.2B in direct financial welfare to Israel from 1946-2022 (which will be 4-5x that figure in 2023), divided by total U.S. income tax revenue of 2.6T in 2022. If any taxpayer had as little as $625.00 in federal income taxes remitted to the U.S. government in 2022, their contribution to this abomination of a welfare state was at least $1.00 - and that’s from someone earning less than $15K annually.

For a taxpayer earning at least $100K, the contribution is closer to $28.00, and for a taxpayer earning at least $250K, the contribution is closer to $92.00 annually.

It’s not “tax cents” for most Americans. And, of course, we cannot put a proper price tag on the fact that the U.S. has wasted full 1/2 of its security council dry powder at the U.N. running veto interference on Israel’s behalf, or the fact that OIF cost Americans over $750B but also countless active duty lives, all thanks to intentionally false “intelligence” manufactured by “our ally” Israel.

Now, then. STFU.

STFU? Why someone is making commands to an internet stranger and being vulgar at the same time!

You don't have to work, then you won't pay taxes, your problem solved. I guess that can be your form of protests? The rest of us will work.

Also, people who don't pay taxes have no say in your U.S.? so in your world the rich would have a bigger say in things? Note, we vote for people and entrust them to make decisions using their judgment--politicians do not take polls of taxpayers.

You failed to mention the critical part where we vote for people and entrust them to make decisions using their judgment, “but what they actually do is make decisions based solely on the amount of money they are provided by special interests groups”.

So, yeah - in the U.S., it’s not just that the rich (i.e., special interests groups and lobbyists) have a “bigger say in things”, they have the only say … until Election Day, that is.

And that is why ceasefire protests are so important. To message to our elected officials that we do not support the US’ unconditional support of Israel.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting how limousine liberals are supporting those that will lock up LGBTQ members and stone them to death. I fail to see the logic of whom they choose to support.

You’re right. We should support the country that burns newborns and toddlers with 1,000 degree Fahrenheit phosporous bombs and 2,000 pound bombs.

LGBT Gazans were posting on social media and writing love letters to their dead love interests and cursing Israel. It’s funny how this is the only weak argument Israel can use. Do they forget gay Palestinians also get killed mostly by Israel not Hamas?

Thank you for acknowledging that you are a limousine liberal.

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In the meantime, gosh forbid we use OUR tax dollars to provide much-needed services to... us.
Because that would be ....socialism! We can only use our tax dollars to provide weapons to this and that ethnic group of people and to invade and bomb others. Where was the protest when we invaded Iraq? For the second time?

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Anonymous wrote:Shameful.

It's not pro-Hamas, and it's not shameful, it's perfectly appropriate.

Sure. They are not anti-Jew. They are not pro-Hamas.
They are just against "genocide."
One might think that if they were truly against genocide, they would have been formed long ago.
Genocide in Rwanda? crickets
Genocide in Syria? crickets
Genocide in any one of several other countries over the past decade? crickets

Yet when Israel defends itself against a brutal attack, this group feels compelled to be against "genocide."

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Anonymous wrote:It's a barbaric part of the world driven by tribalism and hatred. But I don't want my tax money going to Israel any more than I'd want it going to Hamas. Let them fight it out on a level playing field without Uncle Sam bankrolling corrupt liars like Bibi Netanyahu.

Who cares about your tax cents (not dollars). The govt doesn't make decisions by taking proportional surveys of taxpayers (so in your world the rich would have a bigger say in things? People who don't pay taxes have no say?), we vote for people and entrust them to make decisions using their judgment.

Tax cents? Well, the objection U.S. taxpayers have to supporting an apartheid regime that will not stop dragging us into its pathetic orbit of misery is based on a lot more than just financial considerations, but just to be clear about something …

Inflation-adjusted annual average of $4.2B in direct financial welfare to Israel from 1946-2022 (which will be 4-5x that figure in 2023), divided by total U.S. income tax revenue of 2.6T in 2022. If any taxpayer had as little as $625.00 in federal income taxes remitted to the U.S. government in 2022, their contribution to this abomination of a welfare state was at least $1.00 - and that’s from someone earning less than $15K annually.

For a taxpayer earning at least $100K, the contribution is closer to $28.00, and for a taxpayer earning at least $250K, the contribution is closer to $92.00 annually.

It’s not “tax cents” for most Americans. And, of course, we cannot put a proper price tag on the fact that the U.S. has wasted full 1/2 of its security council dry powder at the U.N. running veto interference on Israel’s behalf, or the fact that OIF cost Americans over $750B but also countless active duty lives, all thanks to intentionally false “intelligence” manufactured by “our ally” Israel.

Now, then. STFU.

STFU? Why someone is making commands to an internet stranger and being vulgar at the same time!

You don't have to work, then you won't pay taxes, your problem solved. I guess that can be your form of protests? The rest of us will work.

Also, people who don't pay taxes have no say in your U.S.? so in your world the rich would have a bigger say in things? Note, we vote for people and entrust them to make decisions using their judgment--politicians do not take polls of taxpayers.

You failed to mention the critical part where we vote for people and entrust them to make decisions using their judgment, “but what they actually do is make decisions based solely on the amount of money they are provided by special interests groups”.

So, yeah - in the U.S., it’s not just that the rich (i.e., special interests groups and lobbyists) have a “bigger say in things”, they have the only say … until Election Day, that is.

And that is why ceasefire protests are so important. To message to our elected officials that we do not support the US’ unconditional support of Israel.

But protests represent the people who choose to protests. We cannot and should not assume they reflect any majority opinion (not that politicians take polls on every issue then act accordingly anyway, that is not how the U.S. govt works)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting how limousine liberals are supporting those that will lock up LGBTQ members and stone them to death. I fail to see the logic of whom they choose to support.

It is interesting you think the right wing is some how more LGBTQ friendly vs Hamas. It is no wonder you crazy right wing extremist who hate western values would fail to see logic.

Israeli ultra-Orthodox lawmaker says LGBT more dangerous than Islamic terrorists
Israel's United Torah Judaism party member, Yitzhak Pindrus, doubles down, saying gay relations more dangerous than 'Islamic State, Hezbollah and Hamas'

Israeli lawmaker from the ultra-Orthodox United Torah Judaism (UTJ) party, Yitzhak Pindrus, said homosexual relations were more dangerous than “the Islamic State, Hezbollah and Hamas,” in an interview with Channel 12 news.

"I realized that perhaps I hadn't explained my message correctly, now I'm going to try to do it better. In my opinion, the most dangerous thing for the State of Israel - more than the Islamic State, Hezbollah and Hamas, is the decadence of forbidden relationships," Pindrus declared.

I must prevent gay pride and prevent this movement,” Nor was the economy important to him, rather “this [LGBT community] is the most dangerous thing for the State of Israel.”

“That is why,” he asserted, “I need to not only prevent the Pride parade, but in general to prevent this movement,” which has been presumed to refer to the LGBTQ rights movement. Pindrus stated “this is the most dangerous thing for the State of Israel.”

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/politics/1687348613-israeli-ultra-orthodox-lawmaker-says-lgbt-more-dangerous-than-islamic-terrorists

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Shameful.

It's not pro-Hamas, and it's not shameful, it's perfectly appropriate.

Sure. They are not anti-Jew. They are not pro-Hamas.
They are just against "genocide."
One might think that if they were truly against genocide, they would have been formed long ago.
Genocide in Rwanda? crickets
Genocide in Syria? crickets
Genocide in any one of several other countries over the past decade? crickets

Yet when Israel defends itself against a brutal attack, this group feels compelled to be against "genocide."

How is Israel committing genocide in Gaza defending itself? Killing 20,000 plus helpless civilians and making 2.3 million homeless is not “self defense”. It is on par with the actions of Einsatzgruppen in Babi Yar.

By your post I know if you were alive in 1940’s you would not lift a finger to help anyone in one of those camps.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting how limousine liberals are supporting those that will lock up LGBTQ members and stone them to death. I fail to see the logic of whom they choose to support.

It is interesting you think the right wing is some how more LGBTQ friendly vs Hamas. It is no wonder you crazy right wing extremist who hate western values would fail to see logic.

Israeli ultra-Orthodox lawmaker says LGBT more dangerous than Islamic terrorists
Israel's United Torah Judaism party member, Yitzhak Pindrus, doubles down, saying gay relations more dangerous than 'Islamic State, Hezbollah and Hamas'

Israeli lawmaker from the ultra-Orthodox United Torah Judaism (UTJ) party, Yitzhak Pindrus, said homosexual relations were more dangerous than “the Islamic State, Hezbollah and Hamas,” in an interview with Channel 12 news.

"I realized that perhaps I hadn't explained my message correctly, now I'm going to try to do it better. In my opinion, the most dangerous thing for the State of Israel - more than the Islamic State, Hezbollah and Hamas, is the decadence of forbidden relationships," Pindrus declared.

I must prevent gay pride and prevent this movement,” Nor was the economy important to him, rather “this [LGBT community] is the most dangerous thing for the State of Israel.”

“That is why,” he asserted, “I need to not only prevent the Pride parade, but in general to prevent this movement,” which has been presumed to refer to the LGBTQ rights movement. Pindrus stated “this is the most dangerous thing for the State of Israel.”

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/politics/1687348613-israeli-ultra-orthodox-lawmaker-says-lgbt-more-dangerous-than-islamic-terrorists

Honey, I am a democratic liberal, a Bernie lover, and will never stop voting for democratic socialism. I do not drive a Suburban and fight for Hamas, Ukraine, lgbtq, etc. I work for my food and shelter and do not give a fig about posturing. I will always be against violence and the U.S. spending money in other countries. BTW, I have today off; it appears that you are not even earning your keep but have the time to post a million posts here.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting how limousine liberals are supporting those that will lock up LGBTQ members and stone them to death. I fail to see the logic of whom they choose to support.

It is interesting you think the right wing is some how more LGBTQ friendly vs Hamas. It is no wonder you crazy right wing extremist who hate western values would fail to see logic.

Israeli ultra-Orthodox lawmaker says LGBT more dangerous than Islamic terrorists
Israel's United Torah Judaism party member, Yitzhak Pindrus, doubles down, saying gay relations more dangerous than 'Islamic State, Hezbollah and Hamas'

Israeli lawmaker from the ultra-Orthodox United Torah Judaism (UTJ) party, Yitzhak Pindrus, said homosexual relations were more dangerous than “the Islamic State, Hezbollah and Hamas,” in an interview with Channel 12 news.

"I realized that perhaps I hadn't explained my message correctly, now I'm going to try to do it better. In my opinion, the most dangerous thing for the State of Israel - more than the Islamic State, Hezbollah and Hamas, is the decadence of forbidden relationships," Pindrus declared.

I must prevent gay pride and prevent this movement,” Nor was the economy important to him, rather “this [LGBT community] is the most dangerous thing for the State of Israel.”

“That is why,” he asserted, “I need to not only prevent the Pride parade, but in general to prevent this movement,” which has been presumed to refer to the LGBTQ rights movement. Pindrus stated “this is the most dangerous thing for the State of Israel.”

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/politics/1687348613-israeli-ultra-orthodox-lawmaker-says-lgbt-more-dangerous-than-islamic-terrorists

Honey, I am a democratic liberal, a Bernie lover, and will never stop voting for democratic socialism. I do not drive a Suburban and fight for Hamas, Ukraine, lgbtq, etc. I work for my food and shelter and do not give a fig about posturing. I will always be against violence and the U.S. spending money in other countries. BTW, I have today off; it appears that you are not even earning your keep but have the time to post a million posts here.