ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Denial is real....

No one has provided ANY concrete defense of BY to the ECNL president or leadership other than I don't want my kid to compete....

The ECNL people challenged every BY person in the country to provide a good reason why the change shouldn't happen and no one has taken the challenge.

The vote is going to be approved. The votes are counted. This is a done deal.

No one cares about the first quarter parents and all the crazy controll BS that comes with it.

Who’s denying what?

Both side have equal pros and cons.

If you want SY it’s not because you’re worried your kid will be left without a team. That’s what ECNL told you to think so you are regurgitating what they fed you.

If your kid is a baller, they are a baller no matter the situation.

If your kid is middle of the pack now, they will be middle of the pack in SY team.

Only kids that will benefit are trapped kids that are ballers.

They will be significantly better than the younger and if they choose to play up they will get a chance to play with kids 1 to 2 grades older.

So other than aligning all of our youth soccer teams with Chile, what are the BY benefits? Both sidesism doesn't also work. See Charlottesville.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Denial is real....

No one has provided ANY concrete defense of BY to the ECNL president or leadership other than I don't want my kid to compete....

The ECNL people challenged every BY person in the country to provide a good reason why the change shouldn't happen and no one has taken the challenge.

The vote is going to be approved. The votes are counted. This is a done deal.

No one cares about the first quarter parents and all the crazy controll BS that comes with it.

Who’s denying what?

Both side have equal pros and cons.

If you want SY it’s not because you’re worried your kid will be left without a team. That’s what ECNL told you to think so you are regurgitating what they fed you.

If your kid is a baller, they are a baller no matter the situation.

If your kid is middle of the pack now, they will be middle of the pack in SY team.

Only kids that will benefit are trapped kids that are ballers.

They will be significantly better than the younger and if they choose to play up they will get a chance to play with kids 1 to 2 grades older.

So other than aligning all of our youth soccer teams with Chile, what are the BY benefits? Both sidesism doesn't also work. See Charlottesville.

The benefits of the people don’t matter unfortunately.

Other countries prioritize Pro, pro academies and NT over college…

That’s why they are advanced. This will be a step backwards and putting the power back into colleges..

[Anonymous]

Whatever they do - don’t piss off MLS. They are US Soccer

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Denial is real....

No one has provided ANY concrete defense of BY to the ECNL president or leadership other than I don't want my kid to compete....

The ECNL people challenged every BY person in the country to provide a good reason why the change shouldn't happen and no one has taken the challenge.

The vote is going to be approved. The votes are counted. This is a done deal.

No one cares about the first quarter parents and all the crazy controll BS that comes with it.

Who’s denying what?

Both side have equal pros and cons.

If you want SY it’s not because you’re worried your kid will be left without a team. That’s what ECNL told you to think so you are regurgitating what they fed you.

If your kid is a baller, they are a baller no matter the situation.

If your kid is middle of the pack now, they will be middle of the pack in SY team.

Only kids that will benefit are trapped kids that are ballers.

They will be significantly better than the younger and if they choose to play up they will get a chance to play with kids 1 to 2 grades older.

So other than aligning all of our youth soccer teams with Chile, what are the BY benefits? Both sidesism doesn't also work. See Charlottesville.

The benefits of the people don’t matter unfortunately.

Other countries prioritize Pro, pro academies and NT over college…

That’s why they are advanced. This will be a step backwards and putting the power back into colleges..

Wait until agents start representing college recruits and clubs start asking colleges for transfer payments.

It's coming...

[Anonymous]

If NWSL starts getting challenged from college soccer, they will start plucking their talent straight from clubs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If NWSL starts getting challenged from college soccer, they will start plucking their talent straight from clubs.

We are a long ways away from girls leaving stanford early to get paid by the NWSL. Girls will always want to graduate the. Go pro. Until the money drastically increases.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you follow Guest playing opportunities on FB. The topic has been brought up. You will see it is majority of folks saying they don’t want to change.

So for all of you SY freaks, the majority does not want to change. This is what colleges told ECNL to do and well, they listened. Hope families leave ECNL in influx

I think that depends on what side you’re on the families Jan to July would obviously be against it that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t do it? I’m sure some families Aug to Dec are saying we don’t want the change but that’s just so they don’t have to argue or deal with people yelling at them about it.

But the system has systemic issues for the majority of Aug to Dec kids which make up 50% of the birth months but only equal about 35% of the soccer players? That’s not a good system.

At the ECNL level they have the numbers and it’s closer to 70% for Q1/2. Again that’s a big problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you follow Guest playing opportunities on FB. The topic has been brought up. You will see it is majority of folks saying they don’t want to change.

So for all of you SY freaks, the majority does not want to change. This is what colleges told ECNL to do and well, they listened. Hope families leave ECNL in influx

On any current ECNL team there's 6 months of players and parents who don't want to switch from BY to SY. There's also 3-4 trapped players that think switching from BY to SY is a great idea.

So ECNL is going to piss off 16ish players and parents to make 3-4 players and parents happy.

Doesn't seem like the right way make your customers happy.

Would probably end up being more like 3-4 pissed off families who are the subs. Because the 3-4 kids who are Q3/4 would be moved down so their parents are happy and the team adds addition players who are bigger and better. So the parents of the Q1/2 are happy because their team just got better.

Let me tell you a secret if your kids are subs the starter parents hate your kid for always blowing the game and also looking forward to your kid being replaced.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you follow Guest playing opportunities on FB. The topic has been brought up. You will see it is majority of folks saying they don’t want to change.

So for all of you SY freaks, the majority does not want to change. This is what colleges told ECNL to do and well, they listened. Hope families leave ECNL in influx

On any current ECNL team there's 6 months of players and parents who don't want to switch from BY to SY. There's also 3-4 trapped players that think switching from BY to SY is a great idea.

So ECNL is going to piss off 16ish players and parents to make 3-4 players and parents happy.

Doesn't seem like the right way make your customers happy.

So dumb. ECNL customer is college coach, not the players. When ECNL gives the best service to college coach for better recruiting effect, the player will come. Not the other way around.

What elite ECNL players are going to be hurt if the change is to school year? Explain how as well?

[Anonymous]

Does anyone remember when they switch from SY to BY if US soccer included any of the leagues or governing leagues in the discussion? It seems like this time the larger governing bodies are heavily involved.

[Anonymous]

I think the change makes sense on a lot of levels but people are seriously discounting the chaos and anger it will create as the domino effect occurs.

May still be worth it in the end, but clubs will have a lot of angry families (low end 3-4 per age group x5 age groups) of kids who get bumped from national to regional.

[Anonymous]

Who cares if your kid get bumped from National to Regional. Good Lord. If your kid gets bumped, they probably were not playing much at NL and now will get a ton of playing time at RL. Just maybe that's a good thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the change makes sense on a lot of levels but people are seriously discounting the chaos and anger it will create as the domino effect occurs.

May still be worth it in the end, but clubs will have a lot of angry families (low end 3-4 per age group x5 age groups) of kids who get bumped from national to regional.

For every angry family there is a less angry family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who cares if your kid get bumped from National to Regional. Good Lord. If your kid gets bumped, they probably were not playing much at NL and now will get a ton of playing time at RL. Just maybe that's a good thing.

I don't disagree, but then you have the badge seeking parents upset. Plus it also rolls downhill the ECNL-R parents who could claim ecnl are now on "elite" teams below regional. There will definitely be angry phone calls and comments to coaches/directors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you follow Guest playing opportunities on FB. The topic has been brought up. You will see it is majority of folks saying they don’t want to change.

So for all of you SY freaks, the majority does not want to change. This is what colleges told ECNL to do and well, they listened. Hope families leave ECNL in influx

Don’t people realize that this is inherently going to be unpopular with a majority of parents and players, but that doesn’t mean it is wrong to do? It won’t be as unpopular with clubs and leagues. The clubs and leagues will care more about overall happiness and participation. A parent vote is like the saying of two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for dinner.