ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Anonymous wrote:WHO would post fake emails from soccer organizations? It’s decided that they are fake? Maybe someone needs to get a job.

Boredom? Fun? S&gigglrs, psycho-parent, drama, wishful thinking? Lots of simple reasons.

That’s not new to our community. There are journalists who come on DCUM and create discussions in order to write stories…. I’m not legitimizing the faking stuff.

One of the people on SoCal called one of the fakers out for copying and pasting from an academic study and claiming it came from some ussoccer insider. Same person copy and pasted a post from DCUM and put a claimed it was an email from Chris Leahey…So And making “bold (hedged) decisions about things that are already known” or posted on rumor twitter accounts before they’re circulated on other threads.

I think they’re just enjoying getting everyone to jump and the attention they get from posting things that keep things going.

Okay let’s say 100 people make stuff up which could be true? But that doesn’t mean 1 person isn’t giving real inside info? There has been enough comments on here that have been proven truthful. Which. People have been hearing this was a real possibility and that leagues like US club or USYS have already discussed for a while and had their own silent vote yes. This has been talked about all year if you want to believe DPL. This wasn’t just a thrown together discussion.

So believe or don’t believe people on here? But obviously there’s a good chance we are changing back.

I don’t think that’s accurate. What specifically were the things that were “proven true?”

This is a big forum. But people posted here that they were hearing, and much of it has indeed become truthful. Regarding surveys being sent out, US club being on board, USYS getting involved, that this was all real and going to a vote in November was argued until a month ago. Even then some argued it until DPL post said what we all knew to be true. If you listen objectively.

Obviously don’t believe everyone or everything but some people obviously have been right about some things.

No one is denying any of it. We are saying that at the end of the day US Soccer will decide —and what they decide is what the youth leagues decide.

As of now, US Soccer has no real reason to move back.

That is what we are saying. DPLs pr basically is basically saying what we have all been saying. That it will be decided in November.

There are some SY freaks that are saying it’s a done deal when that is not true.

Just think about what you said. I’m paraphrasing so you can correct me. US soccer will decide based off what the youth leagues decide? So if someone gets info from a youth league who has decided to switch to SY. Then that means it is a done deal outside of a vote that is just for show at that point?

It’s a predetermined vote essentially.
Because why would the youth leagues push something for a vote unless they wanted to change the rules?

Because we don’t know for sure what leagues have decided what.

Youth soccer is more than just ECNL.
USYS was not 100% sold but could be influenced.
You don’t know AYSOs stance.
You don’t know USSSAs stance.

I’m saying assume the leagues have already decided! And people know that the leagues have decided then wouldn’t it be a done deal at this point? If Us Soccer is planning on deferring to the leagues anyways.

Again, no telling. We only know that ECNL is for SY.
GA could stay BY and snag ECNL kids.
GA could go SY.
USYS could go SY

Don’t be surprised if GA, stays BY. They are governed by US Soccer so unless us soccer makes it a mandate they could stay BY. But they also want to be a college recruiting platform.

Them being YNT/Pro focus does not affect college.

ECNL being college focused could lead to less YNT talent.

GA is not YNT / Pro focused. They’re a college platform

GA YNT/Pro focused . . . ha ha ha.

What’s funny. They were just sanctioned less than a year ago. these things take time. You better believe their goal is to recreate DA with the ability to play high school.

In my opinion the leaders of GA are soccer experts and not business people. While ECNL seem to be both. The DA failing was a real black spot on US Soccer. So random DA programs banded together to try to recreate it. It was OK, but ECNL seems to be playing bridge to GA playing go fish.

Also many GA programs switched to allowing kids to play high school because kids wanted to play high school and, guess who was able to accommodate them...........yep, ECNL. When kids started defecting they changed the rules.

And the same clubs that run ECNL ran DA. All it will take is for ECNL to fumble a little and GA will pick up where ECNL left off 😏

I would love for the GA backers to name one value proposition that GA has over ECNL. And please dont say their "partnership" agreement with USSF. Not one person can tell me what that actually means practically.

Never said it was better. This is a waiting game bud. DA was much better than ECNL at the time. ECNL waited and boom, took over..

GA has had years to think about this. This isn’t going to happen overnight

You never said it was better but implied it was equal or close to being equal. I am saying that GA is not even close to being an ECNL compeititor. And I would love to know the evidence that you rely on to say DA was much better than ECNL when it folded. Because I dont see it that way. Better than GA currently, probably. Better than ECNL, not so much. I have two elite older kids. One went through DA and one through ECNL. The only real difference I saw was one allowed for high school and one did not. If you went to a crap high school you played DA. If you didn't, you went to ECNL.

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Anonymous wrote:WHO would post fake emails from soccer organizations? It’s decided that they are fake? Maybe someone needs to get a job.

Boredom? Fun? S&gigglrs, psycho-parent, drama, wishful thinking? Lots of simple reasons.

That’s not new to our community. There are journalists who come on DCUM and create discussions in order to write stories…. I’m not legitimizing the faking stuff.

One of the people on SoCal called one of the fakers out for copying and pasting from an academic study and claiming it came from some ussoccer insider. Same person copy and pasted a post from DCUM and put a claimed it was an email from Chris Leahey…So And making “bold (hedged) decisions about things that are already known” or posted on rumor twitter accounts before they’re circulated on other threads.

I think they’re just enjoying getting everyone to jump and the attention they get from posting things that keep things going.

Okay let’s say 100 people make stuff up which could be true? But that doesn’t mean 1 person isn’t giving real inside info? There has been enough comments on here that have been proven truthful. Which. People have been hearing this was a real possibility and that leagues like US club or USYS have already discussed for a while and had their own silent vote yes. This has been talked about all year if you want to believe DPL. This wasn’t just a thrown together discussion.

So believe or don’t believe people on here? But obviously there’s a good chance we are changing back.

I don’t think that’s accurate. What specifically were the things that were “proven true?”

This is a big forum. But people posted here that they were hearing, and much of it has indeed become truthful. Regarding surveys being sent out, US club being on board, USYS getting involved, that this was all real and going to a vote in November was argued until a month ago. Even then some argued it until DPL post said what we all knew to be true. If you listen objectively.

Obviously don’t believe everyone or everything but some people obviously have been right about some things.

No one is denying any of it. We are saying that at the end of the day US Soccer will decide —and what they decide is what the youth leagues decide.

As of now, US Soccer has no real reason to move back.

That is what we are saying. DPLs pr basically is basically saying what we have all been saying. That it will be decided in November.

There are some SY freaks that are saying it’s a done deal when that is not true.

Just think about what you said. I’m paraphrasing so you can correct me. US soccer will decide based off what the youth leagues decide? So if someone gets info from a youth league who has decided to switch to SY. Then that means it is a done deal outside of a vote that is just for show at that point?

It’s a predetermined vote essentially.
Because why would the youth leagues push something for a vote unless they wanted to change the rules?

Because we don’t know for sure what leagues have decided what.

Youth soccer is more than just ECNL.
USYS was not 100% sold but could be influenced.
You don’t know AYSOs stance.
You don’t know USSSAs stance.

I’m saying assume the leagues have already decided! And people know that the leagues have decided then wouldn’t it be a done deal at this point? If Us Soccer is planning on deferring to the leagues anyways.

Again, no telling. We only know that ECNL is for SY.
GA could stay BY and snag ECNL kids.
GA could go SY.
USYS could go SY

Don’t be surprised if GA, stays BY. They are governed by US Soccer so unless us soccer makes it a mandate they could stay BY. But they also want to be a college recruiting platform.

Them being YNT/Pro focus does not affect college.

ECNL being college focused could lead to less YNT talent.

GA is not YNT / Pro focused. They’re a college platform

GA YNT/Pro focused . . . ha ha ha.

What’s funny. They were just sanctioned less than a year ago. these things take time. You better believe their goal is to recreate DA with the ability to play high school.

In my opinion the leaders of GA are soccer experts and not business people. While ECNL seem to be both. The DA failing was a real black spot on US Soccer. So random DA programs banded together to try to recreate it. It was OK, but ECNL seems to be playing bridge to GA playing go fish.

Also many GA programs switched to allowing kids to play high school because kids wanted to play high school and, guess who was able to accommodate them...........yep, ECNL. When kids started defecting they changed the rules.

And the same clubs that run ECNL ran DA. All it will take is for ECNL to fumble a little and GA will pick up where ECNL left off 😏

I would love for the GA backers to name one value proposition that GA has over ECNL. And please dont say their "partnership" agreement with USSF. Not one person can tell me what that actually means practically.

Never said it was better. This is a waiting game bud. DA was much better than ECNL at the time. ECNL waited and boom, took over..

GA has had years to think about this. This isn’t going to happen overnight

You never said it was better but implied it was equal or close to being equal. I am saying that GA is not even close to being an ECNL compeititor. And I would love to know the evidence that you rely on to say DA was much better than ECNL when it folded. Because I dont see it that way. Better than GA currently, probably. Better than ECNL, not so much. I have two elite older kids. One went through DA and one through ECNL. The only real difference I saw was one allowed for high school and one did not. If you went to a crap high school you played DA. If you didn't, you went to ECNL.

Now you are just being an ass.
The fact that you are even arguing with someone about GA not being a competitor to ECNL shows me that they are. you are spilling your heart out trying to deflect.

GA Has 20% of the market share when it comes to kids in college. Some of that 20% belonged to ECNL. That is a. Competitor

I apologize if you think I am being an ass. We have different opinions on what is a competitor. If someone has 80% market share and someone has 20% it is pretty clear it is one sided but if that is your definition, I am good with it. Just a semantics thing.

But just for the record, that 20% is dropping, not growing. Go back and look at original GA members (DA before it folded) and tell me how many of those teams have now moved to ECNL taking their college offers with them. It is a ton.

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Anonymous wrote:WHO would post fake emails from soccer organizations? It’s decided that they are fake? Maybe someone needs to get a job.

Boredom? Fun? S&gigglrs, psycho-parent, drama, wishful thinking? Lots of simple reasons.

That’s not new to our community. There are journalists who come on DCUM and create discussions in order to write stories…. I’m not legitimizing the faking stuff.

One of the people on SoCal called one of the fakers out for copying and pasting from an academic study and claiming it came from some ussoccer insider. Same person copy and pasted a post from DCUM and put a claimed it was an email from Chris Leahey…So And making “bold (hedged) decisions about things that are already known” or posted on rumor twitter accounts before they’re circulated on other threads.

I think they’re just enjoying getting everyone to jump and the attention they get from posting things that keep things going.

Okay let’s say 100 people make stuff up which could be true? But that doesn’t mean 1 person isn’t giving real inside info? There has been enough comments on here that have been proven truthful. Which. People have been hearing this was a real possibility and that leagues like US club or USYS have already discussed for a while and had their own silent vote yes. This has been talked about all year if you want to believe DPL. This wasn’t just a thrown together discussion.

So believe or don’t believe people on here? But obviously there’s a good chance we are changing back.

I don’t think that’s accurate. What specifically were the things that were “proven true?”

This is a big forum. But people posted here that they were hearing, and much of it has indeed become truthful. Regarding surveys being sent out, US club being on board, USYS getting involved, that this was all real and going to a vote in November was argued until a month ago. Even then some argued it until DPL post said what we all knew to be true. If you listen objectively.

Obviously don’t believe everyone or everything but some people obviously have been right about some things.

No one is denying any of it. We are saying that at the end of the day US Soccer will decide —and what they decide is what the youth leagues decide.

As of now, US Soccer has no real reason to move back.

That is what we are saying. DPLs pr basically is basically saying what we have all been saying. That it will be decided in November.

There are some SY freaks that are saying it’s a done deal when that is not true.

Just think about what you said. I’m paraphrasing so you can correct me. US soccer will decide based off what the youth leagues decide? So if someone gets info from a youth league who has decided to switch to SY. Then that means it is a done deal outside of a vote that is just for show at that point?

It’s a predetermined vote essentially.
Because why would the youth leagues push something for a vote unless they wanted to change the rules?

Because we don’t know for sure what leagues have decided what.

Youth soccer is more than just ECNL.
USYS was not 100% sold but could be influenced.
You don’t know AYSOs stance.
You don’t know USSSAs stance.

I’m saying assume the leagues have already decided! And people know that the leagues have decided then wouldn’t it be a done deal at this point? If Us Soccer is planning on deferring to the leagues anyways.

Again, no telling. We only know that ECNL is for SY.
GA could stay BY and snag ECNL kids.
GA could go SY.
USYS could go SY

Don’t be surprised if GA, stays BY. They are governed by US Soccer so unless us soccer makes it a mandate they could stay BY. But they also want to be a college recruiting platform.

Them being YNT/Pro focus does not affect college.

ECNL being college focused could lead to less YNT talent.

GA is not YNT / Pro focused. They’re a college platform

GA YNT/Pro focused . . . ha ha ha.

What’s funny. They were just sanctioned less than a year ago. these things take time. You better believe their goal is to recreate DA with the ability to play high school.

In my opinion the leaders of GA are soccer experts and not business people. While ECNL seem to be both. The DA failing was a real black spot on US Soccer. So random DA programs banded together to try to recreate it. It was OK, but ECNL seems to be playing bridge to GA playing go fish.

Also many GA programs switched to allowing kids to play high school because kids wanted to play high school and, guess who was able to accommodate them...........yep, ECNL. When kids started defecting they changed the rules.

And the same clubs that run ECNL ran DA. All it will take is for ECNL to fumble a little and GA will pick up where ECNL left off 😏

I would love for the GA backers to name one value proposition that GA has over ECNL. And please dont say their "partnership" agreement with USSF. Not one person can tell me what that actually means practically.

Never said it was better. This is a waiting game bud. DA was much better than ECNL at the time. ECNL waited and boom, took over..

GA has had years to think about this. This isn’t going to happen overnight

You never said it was better but implied it was equal or close to being equal. I am saying that GA is not even close to being an ECNL compeititor. And I would love to know the evidence that you rely on to say DA was much better than ECNL when it folded. Because I dont see it that way. Better than GA currently, probably. Better than ECNL, not so much. I have two elite older kids. One went through DA and one through ECNL. The only real difference I saw was one allowed for high school and one did not. If you went to a crap high school you played DA. If you didn't, you went to ECNL.

Now you are just being an ass.
The fact that you are even arguing with someone about GA not being a competitor to ECNL shows me that they are. you are spilling your heart out trying to deflect.

GA Has 20% of the market share when it comes to kids in college. Some of that 20% belonged to ECNL. That is a. Competitor

I apologize if you think I am being an ass. We have different opinions on what is a competitor. If someone has 80% market share and someone has 20% it is pretty clear it is one sided but if that is your definition, I am good with it. Just a semantics thing.

But just for the record, that 20% is dropping, not growing. Go back and look at original GA members (DA before it folded) and tell me how many of those teams have now moved to ECNL taking their college offers with them. It is a ton.

I’m not negating that. In a short 4 years, GA has in my opinions been successful.

Will they continue to lose clubs to ECNL? possibly. But college scouts are coming to showcased and playoffs.

Go look at the top GA Clubs and see where the kids are placing.

Honestly, it would probably make sense for the crappy ECNL clubs to join GA so they can have some what of a chance to at least make playoffs

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Anonymous wrote:WHO would post fake emails from soccer organizations? It’s decided that they are fake? Maybe someone needs to get a job.

Boredom? Fun? S&gigglrs, psycho-parent, drama, wishful thinking? Lots of simple reasons.

That’s not new to our community. There are journalists who come on DCUM and create discussions in order to write stories…. I’m not legitimizing the faking stuff.

One of the people on SoCal called one of the fakers out for copying and pasting from an academic study and claiming it came from some ussoccer insider. Same person copy and pasted a post from DCUM and put a claimed it was an email from Chris Leahey…So And making “bold (hedged) decisions about things that are already known” or posted on rumor twitter accounts before they’re circulated on other threads.

I think they’re just enjoying getting everyone to jump and the attention they get from posting things that keep things going.

Okay let’s say 100 people make stuff up which could be true? But that doesn’t mean 1 person isn’t giving real inside info? There has been enough comments on here that have been proven truthful. Which. People have been hearing this was a real possibility and that leagues like US club or USYS have already discussed for a while and had their own silent vote yes. This has been talked about all year if you want to believe DPL. This wasn’t just a thrown together discussion.

So believe or don’t believe people on here? But obviously there’s a good chance we are changing back.

I don’t think that’s accurate. What specifically were the things that were “proven true?”

This is a big forum. But people posted here that they were hearing, and much of it has indeed become truthful. Regarding surveys being sent out, US club being on board, USYS getting involved, that this was all real and going to a vote in November was argued until a month ago. Even then some argued it until DPL post said what we all knew to be true. If you listen objectively.

Obviously don’t believe everyone or everything but some people obviously have been right about some things.

No one is denying any of it. We are saying that at the end of the day US Soccer will decide —and what they decide is what the youth leagues decide.

As of now, US Soccer has no real reason to move back.

That is what we are saying. DPLs pr basically is basically saying what we have all been saying. That it will be decided in November.

There are some SY freaks that are saying it’s a done deal when that is not true.

Just think about what you said. I’m paraphrasing so you can correct me. US soccer will decide based off what the youth leagues decide? So if someone gets info from a youth league who has decided to switch to SY. Then that means it is a done deal outside of a vote that is just for show at that point?

It’s a predetermined vote essentially.
Because why would the youth leagues push something for a vote unless they wanted to change the rules?

Because we don’t know for sure what leagues have decided what.

Youth soccer is more than just ECNL.
USYS was not 100% sold but could be influenced.
You don’t know AYSOs stance.
You don’t know USSSAs stance.

I’m saying assume the leagues have already decided! And people know that the leagues have decided then wouldn’t it be a done deal at this point? If Us Soccer is planning on deferring to the leagues anyways.

Again, no telling. We only know that ECNL is for SY.
GA could stay BY and snag ECNL kids.
GA could go SY.
USYS could go SY

Don’t be surprised if GA, stays BY. They are governed by US Soccer so unless us soccer makes it a mandate they could stay BY. But they also want to be a college recruiting platform.

Them being YNT/Pro focus does not affect college.

ECNL being college focused could lead to less YNT talent.

GA is not YNT / Pro focused. They’re a college platform

GA YNT/Pro focused . . . ha ha ha.

What’s funny. They were just sanctioned less than a year ago. these things take time. You better believe their goal is to recreate DA with the ability to play high school.

In my opinion the leaders of GA are soccer experts and not business people. While ECNL seem to be both. The DA failing was a real black spot on US Soccer. So random DA programs banded together to try to recreate it. It was OK, but ECNL seems to be playing bridge to GA playing go fish.

Also many GA programs switched to allowing kids to play high school because kids wanted to play high school and, guess who was able to accommodate them...........yep, ECNL. When kids started defecting they changed the rules.

And the same clubs that run ECNL ran DA. All it will take is for ECNL to fumble a little and GA will pick up where ECNL left off 😏

I would love for the GA backers to name one value proposition that GA has over ECNL. And please dont say their "partnership" agreement with USSF. Not one person can tell me what that actually means practically.

Never said it was better. This is a waiting game bud. DA was much better than ECNL at the time. ECNL waited and boom, took over..

GA has had years to think about this. This isn’t going to happen overnight

You never said it was better but implied it was equal or close to being equal. I am saying that GA is not even close to being an ECNL compeititor. And I would love to know the evidence that you rely on to say DA was much better than ECNL when it folded. Because I dont see it that way. Better than GA currently, probably. Better than ECNL, not so much. I have two elite older kids. One went through DA and one through ECNL. The only real difference I saw was one allowed for high school and one did not. If you went to a crap high school you played DA. If you didn't, you went to ECNL.

Now you are just being an ass.
The fact that you are even arguing with someone about GA not being a competitor to ECNL shows me that they are. you are spilling your heart out trying to deflect.

GA Has 20% of the market share when it comes to kids in college. Some of that 20% belonged to ECNL. That is a. Competitor

I apologize if you think I am being an ass. We have different opinions on what is a competitor. If someone has 80% market share and someone has 20% it is pretty clear it is one sided but if that is your definition, I am good with it. Just a semantics thing.

But just for the record, that 20% is dropping, not growing. Go back and look at original GA members (DA before it folded) and tell me how many of those teams have now moved to ECNL taking their college offers with them. It is a ton.

I’m not the one arguing with you. But the 20% is growing. But I would say they are losing more quality teams than they add. They lose 3-4 A level clubs and add 5-6 C/B level clubs.

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If you follow Guest playing opportunities on FB. The topic has been brought up. You will see it is majority of folks saying they don’t want to change.

So for all of you SY freaks, the majority does not want to change. This is what colleges told ECNL to do and well, they listened. Hope families leave ECNL in influx

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Anonymous wrote:If you follow Guest playing opportunities on FB. The topic has been brought up. You will see it is majority of folks saying they don’t want to change.

So for all of you SY freaks, the majority does not want to change. This is what colleges told ECNL to do and well, they listened. Hope families leave ECNL in influx

On any current ECNL team there's 6 months of players and parents who don't want to switch from BY to SY. There's also 3-4 trapped players that think switching from BY to SY is a great idea.

So ECNL is going to piss off 16ish players and parents to make 3-4 players and parents happy.

Doesn't seem like the right way make your customers happy.

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Anonymous wrote:If you follow Guest playing opportunities on FB. The topic has been brought up. You will see it is majority of folks saying they don’t want to change.

So for all of you SY freaks, the majority does not want to change. This is what colleges told ECNL to do and well, they listened. Hope families leave ECNL in influx

On any current ECNL team there's 6 months of players and parents who don't want to switch from BY to SY. There's also 3-4 trapped players that think switching from BY to SY is a great idea.

So ECNL is going to piss off 16ish players and parents to make 3-4 players and parents happy.

Doesn't seem like the right way make your customers happy.

You don’t get it. College recruiters have a budget, they go watch the recruiting class. They waste their valuable time and budget when they show up to watch the underclass kid playing in a 2025 team. The underclass player has one or more years to be watched out, they are taking away the spot and recruiting “time” of an actual 2025 player.

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Anonymous wrote:If you follow Guest playing opportunities on FB. The topic has been brought up. You will see it is majority of folks saying they don’t want to change.

So for all of you SY freaks, the majority does not want to change. This is what colleges told ECNL to do and well, they listened. Hope families leave ECNL in influx

On any current ECNL team there's 6 months of players and parents who don't want to switch from BY to SY. There's also 3-4 trapped players that think switching from BY to SY is a great idea.

So ECNL is going to piss off 16ish players and parents to make 3-4 players and parents happy.

Doesn't seem like the right way make your customers happy.

You don’t get it. College recruiters have a budget, they go watch the recruiting class. They waste their valuable time and budget when they show up to watch the underclass kid playing in a 2025 team. The underclass player has one or more years to be watched out, they are taking away the spot and recruiting “time” of an actual 2025 player.

And college sports are dying so why does it matter

[Anonymous]

Denial is real....

No one has provided ANY concrete defense of BY to the ECNL president or leadership other than I don't want my kid to compete....

The ECNL people challenged every BY person in the country to provide a good reason why the change shouldn't happen and no one has taken the challenge.

The vote is going to be approved. The votes are counted. This is a done deal.

No one cares about the first quarter parents and all the crazy controll BS that comes with it.

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Anonymous wrote:If you follow Guest playing opportunities on FB. The topic has been brought up. You will see it is majority of folks saying they don’t want to change.

So for all of you SY freaks, the majority does not want to change. This is what colleges told ECNL to do and well, they listened. Hope families leave ECNL in influx

On any current ECNL team there's 6 months of players and parents who don't want to switch from BY to SY. There's also 3-4 trapped players that think switching from BY to SY is a great idea.

So ECNL is going to piss off 16ish players and parents to make 3-4 players and parents happy.

Doesn't seem like the right way make your customers happy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_of_the_majority

Changing to SY might be the right thing to do, but for the reason you say it is kind of surprising that it might happen.

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Anonymous wrote:If you follow Guest playing opportunities on FB. The topic has been brought up. You will see it is majority of folks saying they don’t want to change.

So for all of you SY freaks, the majority does not want to change. This is what colleges told ECNL to do and well, they listened. Hope families leave ECNL in influx

On any current ECNL team there's 6 months of players and parents who don't want to switch from BY to SY. There's also 3-4 trapped players that think switching from BY to SY is a great idea.

So ECNL is going to piss off 16ish players and parents to make 3-4 players and parents happy.

Doesn't seem like the right way make your customers happy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_of_the_majority

Changing to SY might be the right thing to do, but for the reason you say it is kind of surprising that it might happen.

BY was and is the right thing to do.

ECNL will have 16+ angry parents on each team soon. But the 3-4 trapped players will be happy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Denial is real....

No one has provided ANY concrete defense of BY to the ECNL president or leadership other than I don't want my kid to compete....

The ECNL people challenged every BY person in the country to provide a good reason why the change shouldn't happen and no one has taken the challenge.

The vote is going to be approved. The votes are counted. This is a done deal.

No one cares about the first quarter parents and all the crazy controll BS that comes with it.

You're that annoying loud mouth guy yelling at people during games because "you called it" and the game wasn't even worth watching.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you follow Guest playing opportunities on FB. The topic has been brought up. You will see it is majority of folks saying they don’t want to change.

So for all of you SY freaks, the majority does not want to change. This is what colleges told ECNL to do and well, they listened. Hope families leave ECNL in influx

On any current ECNL team there's 6 months of players and parents who don't want to switch from BY to SY. There's also 3-4 trapped players that think switching from BY to SY is a great idea.

So ECNL is going to piss off 16ish players and parents to make 3-4 players and parents happy.

Doesn't seem like the right way make your customers happy.

You don’t get it. College recruiters have a budget, they go watch the recruiting class. They waste their valuable time and budget when they show up to watch the underclass kid playing in a 2025 team. The underclass player has one or more years to be watched out, they are taking away the spot and recruiting “time” of an actual 2025 player.

You don't get it.

College recruiters go to see players that they are in contact with.

They don't walk around randomly watching games shopping for players.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you follow Guest playing opportunities on FB. The topic has been brought up. You will see it is majority of folks saying they don’t want to change.

So for all of you SY freaks, the majority does not want to change. This is what colleges told ECNL to do and well, they listened. Hope families leave ECNL in influx

On any current ECNL team there's 6 months of players and parents who don't want to switch from BY to SY. There's also 3-4 trapped players that think switching from BY to SY is a great idea.

So ECNL is going to piss off 16ish players and parents to make 3-4 players and parents happy.

Doesn't seem like the right way make your customers happy.

So dumb. ECNL customer is college coach, not the players. When ECNL gives the best service to college coach for better recruiting effect, the player will come. Not the other way around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Denial is real....

No one has provided ANY concrete defense of BY to the ECNL president or leadership other than I don't want my kid to compete....

The ECNL people challenged every BY person in the country to provide a good reason why the change shouldn't happen and no one has taken the challenge.

The vote is going to be approved. The votes are counted. This is a done deal.

No one cares about the first quarter parents and all the crazy controll BS that comes with it.

Who’s denying what?

Both side have equal pros and cons.

If you want SY it’s not because you’re worried your kid will be left without a team. That’s what ECNL told you to think so you are regurgitating what they fed you.

If your kid is a baller, they are a baller no matter the situation.

If your kid is middle of the pack now, they will be middle of the pack in SY team.

Only kids that will benefit are trapped kids that are ballers.

They will be significantly better than the younger and if they choose to play up they will get a chance to play with kids 1 to 2 grades older.