ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Trust me when I say this is not a done deal. As many clubs and league operators are not on board and are fighting against their own governing body. The So Cal League is taking the BIrth year stance and will fight back against a change to school year. The questions comes down to does the majority of clubs want to change? So cal is a big league so I’m sure they have some say.

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Anonymous wrote:WHO would post fake emails from soccer organizations? It’s decided that they are fake? Maybe someone needs to get a job.

Boredom? Fun? S&gigglrs, psycho-parent, drama, wishful thinking? Lots of simple reasons.

That’s not new to our community. There are journalists who come on DCUM and create discussions in order to write stories…. I’m not legitimizing the faking stuff.

One of the people on SoCal called one of the fakers out for copying and pasting from an academic study and claiming it came from some ussoccer insider. Same person copy and pasted a post from DCUM and put a claimed it was an email from Chris Leahey…So And making “bold (hedged) decisions about things that are already known” or posted on rumor twitter accounts before they’re circulated on other threads.

I think they’re just enjoying getting everyone to jump and the attention they get from posting things that keep things going.

Okay let’s say 100 people make stuff up which could be true? But that doesn’t mean 1 person isn’t giving real inside info? There has been enough comments on here that have been proven truthful. Which. People have been hearing this was a real possibility and that leagues like US club or USYS have already discussed for a while and had their own silent vote yes. This has been talked about all year if you want to believe DPL. This wasn’t just a thrown together discussion.

So believe or don’t believe people on here? But obviously there’s a good chance we are changing back.

I don’t think that’s accurate. What specifically were the things that were “proven true?”

This is a big forum. But people posted here that they were hearing, and much of it has indeed become truthful. Regarding surveys being sent out, US club being on board, USYS getting involved, that this was all real and going to a vote in November was argued until a month ago. Even then some argued it until DPL post said what we all knew to be true. If you listen objectively.

Obviously don’t believe everyone or everything but some people obviously have been right about some things.

No one is denying any of it. We are saying that at the end of the day US Soccer will decide —and what they decide is what the youth leagues decide.

As of now, US Soccer has no real reason to move back.

That is what we are saying. DPLs pr basically is basically saying what we have all been saying. That it will be decided in November.

There are some SY freaks that are saying it’s a done deal when that is not true.

Just think about what you said. I’m paraphrasing so you can correct me. US soccer will decide based off what the youth leagues decide? So if someone gets info from a youth league who has decided to switch to SY. Then that means it is a done deal outside of a vote that is just for show at that point?

It’s a predetermined vote essentially.
Because why would the youth leagues push something for a vote unless they wanted to change the rules?

Because we don’t know for sure what leagues have decided what.

Youth soccer is more than just ECNL.
USYS was not 100% sold but could be influenced.
You don’t know AYSOs stance.
You don’t know USSSAs stance.

I’m saying assume the leagues have already decided! And people know that the leagues have decided then wouldn’t it be a done deal at this point? If Us Soccer is planning on deferring to the leagues anyways.

Again, no telling. We only know that ECNL is for SY.
GA could stay BY and snag ECNL kids.
GA could go SY.
USYS could go SY

Don’t be surprised if GA, stays BY. They are governed by US Soccer so unless us soccer makes it a mandate they could stay BY. But they also want to be a college recruiting platform.

Them being YNT/Pro focus does not affect college.

ECNL being college focused could lead to less YNT talent.

GA is not YNT / Pro focused. They’re a college platform

GA YNT/Pro focused . . . ha ha ha.

What’s funny. They were just sanctioned less than a year ago. these things take time. You better believe their goal is to recreate DA with the ability to play high school.

In my opinion the leaders of GA are soccer experts and not business people. While ECNL seem to be both. The DA failing was a real black spot on US Soccer. So random DA programs banded together to try to recreate it. It was OK, but ECNL seems to be playing bridge to GA playing go fish.

Also many GA programs switched to allowing kids to play high school because kids wanted to play high school and, guess who was able to accommodate them...........yep, ECNL. When kids started defecting they changed the rules.

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Anonymous wrote:WHO would post fake emails from soccer organizations? It’s decided that they are fake? Maybe someone needs to get a job.

Boredom? Fun? S&gigglrs, psycho-parent, drama, wishful thinking? Lots of simple reasons.

That’s not new to our community. There are journalists who come on DCUM and create discussions in order to write stories…. I’m not legitimizing the faking stuff.

One of the people on SoCal called one of the fakers out for copying and pasting from an academic study and claiming it came from some ussoccer insider. Same person copy and pasted a post from DCUM and put a claimed it was an email from Chris Leahey…So And making “bold (hedged) decisions about things that are already known” or posted on rumor twitter accounts before they’re circulated on other threads.

I think they’re just enjoying getting everyone to jump and the attention they get from posting things that keep things going.

Okay let’s say 100 people make stuff up which could be true? But that doesn’t mean 1 person isn’t giving real inside info? There has been enough comments on here that have been proven truthful. Which. People have been hearing this was a real possibility and that leagues like US club or USYS have already discussed for a while and had their own silent vote yes. This has been talked about all year if you want to believe DPL. This wasn’t just a thrown together discussion.

So believe or don’t believe people on here? But obviously there’s a good chance we are changing back.

I don’t think that’s accurate. What specifically were the things that were “proven true?”

This is a big forum. But people posted here that they were hearing, and much of it has indeed become truthful. Regarding surveys being sent out, US club being on board, USYS getting involved, that this was all real and going to a vote in November was argued until a month ago. Even then some argued it until DPL post said what we all knew to be true. If you listen objectively.

Obviously don’t believe everyone or everything but some people obviously have been right about some things.

No one is denying any of it. We are saying that at the end of the day US Soccer will decide —and what they decide is what the youth leagues decide.

As of now, US Soccer has no real reason to move back.

That is what we are saying. DPLs pr basically is basically saying what we have all been saying. That it will be decided in November.

There are some SY freaks that are saying it’s a done deal when that is not true.

Just think about what you said. I’m paraphrasing so you can correct me. US soccer will decide based off what the youth leagues decide? So if someone gets info from a youth league who has decided to switch to SY. Then that means it is a done deal outside of a vote that is just for show at that point?

It’s a predetermined vote essentially.
Because why would the youth leagues push something for a vote unless they wanted to change the rules?

Because we don’t know for sure what leagues have decided what.

Youth soccer is more than just ECNL.
USYS was not 100% sold but could be influenced.
You don’t know AYSOs stance.
You don’t know USSSAs stance.

I’m saying assume the leagues have already decided! And people know that the leagues have decided then wouldn’t it be a done deal at this point? If Us Soccer is planning on deferring to the leagues anyways.

Again, no telling. We only know that ECNL is for SY.
GA could stay BY and snag ECNL kids.
GA could go SY.
USYS could go SY

Don’t be surprised if GA, stays BY. They are governed by US Soccer so unless us soccer makes it a mandate they could stay BY. But they also want to be a college recruiting platform.

Them being YNT/Pro focus does not affect college.

ECNL being college focused could lead to less YNT talent.

GA is not YNT / Pro focused. They’re a college platform

GA YNT/Pro focused . . . ha ha ha.

What’s funny. They were just sanctioned less than a year ago. these things take time. You better believe their goal is to recreate DA with the ability to play high school.

In my opinion the leaders of GA are soccer experts and not business people. While ECNL seem to be both. The DA failing was a real black spot on US Soccer. So random DA programs banded together to try to recreate it. It was OK, but ECNL seems to be playing bridge to GA playing go fish.

Also many GA programs switched to allowing kids to play high school because kids wanted to play high school and, guess who was able to accommodate them...........yep, ECNL. When kids started defecting they changed the rules.

And the same clubs that run ECNL ran DA. All it will take is for ECNL to fumble a little and GA will pick up where ECNL left off 😏

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trust me when I say this is not a done deal. As many clubs and league operators are not on board and are fighting against their own governing body. The So Cal League is taking the BIrth year stance and will fight back against a change to school year. The questions comes down to does the majority of clubs want to change? So cal is a big league so I’m sure they have some say.

I have a feeling a lot of ECNL clubs are not in favor of this.

Going to piss off a lot of parents that worked out deals to get on some of these teams

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Anonymous wrote:WHO would post fake emails from soccer organizations? It’s decided that they are fake? Maybe someone needs to get a job.

Boredom? Fun? S&gigglrs, psycho-parent, drama, wishful thinking? Lots of simple reasons.

That’s not new to our community. There are journalists who come on DCUM and create discussions in order to write stories…. I’m not legitimizing the faking stuff.

One of the people on SoCal called one of the fakers out for copying and pasting from an academic study and claiming it came from some ussoccer insider. Same person copy and pasted a post from DCUM and put a claimed it was an email from Chris Leahey…So And making “bold (hedged) decisions about things that are already known” or posted on rumor twitter accounts before they’re circulated on other threads.

I think they’re just enjoying getting everyone to jump and the attention they get from posting things that keep things going.

Okay let’s say 100 people make stuff up which could be true? But that doesn’t mean 1 person isn’t giving real inside info? There has been enough comments on here that have been proven truthful. Which. People have been hearing this was a real possibility and that leagues like US club or USYS have already discussed for a while and had their own silent vote yes. This has been talked about all year if you want to believe DPL. This wasn’t just a thrown together discussion.

So believe or don’t believe people on here? But obviously there’s a good chance we are changing back.

I don’t think that’s accurate. What specifically were the things that were “proven true?”

This is a big forum. But people posted here that they were hearing, and much of it has indeed become truthful. Regarding surveys being sent out, US club being on board, USYS getting involved, that this was all real and going to a vote in November was argued until a month ago. Even then some argued it until DPL post said what we all knew to be true. If you listen objectively.

Obviously don’t believe everyone or everything but some people obviously have been right about some things.

No one is denying any of it. We are saying that at the end of the day US Soccer will decide —and what they decide is what the youth leagues decide.

As of now, US Soccer has no real reason to move back.

That is what we are saying. DPLs pr basically is basically saying what we have all been saying. That it will be decided in November.

There are some SY freaks that are saying it’s a done deal when that is not true.

Just think about what you said. I’m paraphrasing so you can correct me. US soccer will decide based off what the youth leagues decide? So if someone gets info from a youth league who has decided to switch to SY. Then that means it is a done deal outside of a vote that is just for show at that point?

It’s a predetermined vote essentially.
Because why would the youth leagues push something for a vote unless they wanted to change the rules?

Because we don’t know for sure what leagues have decided what.

Youth soccer is more than just ECNL.
USYS was not 100% sold but could be influenced.
You don’t know AYSOs stance.
You don’t know USSSAs stance.

I’m saying assume the leagues have already decided! And people know that the leagues have decided then wouldn’t it be a done deal at this point? If Us Soccer is planning on deferring to the leagues anyways.

Again, no telling. We only know that ECNL is for SY.
GA could stay BY and snag ECNL kids.
GA could go SY.
USYS could go SY

Don’t be surprised if GA, stays BY. They are governed by US Soccer so unless us soccer makes it a mandate they could stay BY. But they also want to be a college recruiting platform.

Them being YNT/Pro focus does not affect college.

ECNL being college focused could lead to less YNT talent.

GA is not YNT / Pro focused. They’re a college platform

GA YNT/Pro focused . . . ha ha ha.

What’s funny. They were just sanctioned less than a year ago. these things take time. You better believe their goal is to recreate DA with the ability to play high school.

In my opinion the leaders of GA are soccer experts and not business people. While ECNL seem to be both. The DA failing was a real black spot on US Soccer. So random DA programs banded together to try to recreate it. It was OK, but ECNL seems to be playing bridge to GA playing go fish.

Also many GA programs switched to allowing kids to play high school because kids wanted to play high school and, guess who was able to accommodate them...........yep, ECNL. When kids started defecting they changed the rules.

And the same clubs that run ECNL ran DA. All it will take is for ECNL to fumble a little and GA will pick up where ECNL left off 😏

That is simply not true. When DA folded the top DA teams banded together to form GA. Did some of those clubs eventually move to ECNL, yes, but the leadership at ECNL was solidly in place already when DA failed. Lavers and Rory were laughing all the way to the bank when DA went belly up.

Now the really interesting story is WHY they went belly up. But that is a story for another day.

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Anonymous wrote:WHO would post fake emails from soccer organizations? It’s decided that they are fake? Maybe someone needs to get a job.

Boredom? Fun? S&gigglrs, psycho-parent, drama, wishful thinking? Lots of simple reasons.

That’s not new to our community. There are journalists who come on DCUM and create discussions in order to write stories…. I’m not legitimizing the faking stuff.

One of the people on SoCal called one of the fakers out for copying and pasting from an academic study and claiming it came from some ussoccer insider. Same person copy and pasted a post from DCUM and put a claimed it was an email from Chris Leahey…So And making “bold (hedged) decisions about things that are already known” or posted on rumor twitter accounts before they’re circulated on other threads.

I think they’re just enjoying getting everyone to jump and the attention they get from posting things that keep things going.

Okay let’s say 100 people make stuff up which could be true? But that doesn’t mean 1 person isn’t giving real inside info? There has been enough comments on here that have been proven truthful. Which. People have been hearing this was a real possibility and that leagues like US club or USYS have already discussed for a while and had their own silent vote yes. This has been talked about all year if you want to believe DPL. This wasn’t just a thrown together discussion.

So believe or don’t believe people on here? But obviously there’s a good chance we are changing back.

I don’t think that’s accurate. What specifically were the things that were “proven true?”

This is a big forum. But people posted here that they were hearing, and much of it has indeed become truthful. Regarding surveys being sent out, US club being on board, USYS getting involved, that this was all real and going to a vote in November was argued until a month ago. Even then some argued it until DPL post said what we all knew to be true. If you listen objectively.

Obviously don’t believe everyone or everything but some people obviously have been right about some things.

No one is denying any of it. We are saying that at the end of the day US Soccer will decide —and what they decide is what the youth leagues decide.

As of now, US Soccer has no real reason to move back.

That is what we are saying. DPLs pr basically is basically saying what we have all been saying. That it will be decided in November.

There are some SY freaks that are saying it’s a done deal when that is not true.

Just think about what you said. I’m paraphrasing so you can correct me. US soccer will decide based off what the youth leagues decide? So if someone gets info from a youth league who has decided to switch to SY. Then that means it is a done deal outside of a vote that is just for show at that point?

It’s a predetermined vote essentially.
Because why would the youth leagues push something for a vote unless they wanted to change the rules?

Because we don’t know for sure what leagues have decided what.

Youth soccer is more than just ECNL.
USYS was not 100% sold but could be influenced.
You don’t know AYSOs stance.
You don’t know USSSAs stance.

I’m saying assume the leagues have already decided! And people know that the leagues have decided then wouldn’t it be a done deal at this point? If Us Soccer is planning on deferring to the leagues anyways.

Again, no telling. We only know that ECNL is for SY.
GA could stay BY and snag ECNL kids.
GA could go SY.
USYS could go SY

Don’t be surprised if GA, stays BY. They are governed by US Soccer so unless us soccer makes it a mandate they could stay BY. But they also want to be a college recruiting platform.

Them being YNT/Pro focus does not affect college.

ECNL being college focused could lead to less YNT talent.

GA is not YNT / Pro focused. They’re a college platform

GA YNT/Pro focused . . . ha ha ha.

What’s funny. They were just sanctioned less than a year ago. these things take time. You better believe their goal is to recreate DA with the ability to play high school.

In my opinion the leaders of GA are soccer experts and not business people. While ECNL seem to be both. The DA failing was a real black spot on US Soccer. So random DA programs banded together to try to recreate it. It was OK, but ECNL seems to be playing bridge to GA playing go fish.

Also many GA programs switched to allowing kids to play high school because kids wanted to play high school and, guess who was able to accommodate them...........yep, ECNL. When kids started defecting they changed the rules.

And the same clubs that run ECNL ran DA. All it will take is for ECNL to fumble a little and GA will pick up where ECNL left off 😏

I would love for the GA backers to name one value proposition that GA has over ECNL. And please dont say their "partnership" agreement with USSF. Not one person can tell me what that actually means practically.

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Anonymous wrote:WHO would post fake emails from soccer organizations? It’s decided that they are fake? Maybe someone needs to get a job.

Boredom? Fun? S&gigglrs, psycho-parent, drama, wishful thinking? Lots of simple reasons.

That’s not new to our community. There are journalists who come on DCUM and create discussions in order to write stories…. I’m not legitimizing the faking stuff.

One of the people on SoCal called one of the fakers out for copying and pasting from an academic study and claiming it came from some ussoccer insider. Same person copy and pasted a post from DCUM and put a claimed it was an email from Chris Leahey…So And making “bold (hedged) decisions about things that are already known” or posted on rumor twitter accounts before they’re circulated on other threads.

I think they’re just enjoying getting everyone to jump and the attention they get from posting things that keep things going.

Okay let’s say 100 people make stuff up which could be true? But that doesn’t mean 1 person isn’t giving real inside info? There has been enough comments on here that have been proven truthful. Which. People have been hearing this was a real possibility and that leagues like US club or USYS have already discussed for a while and had their own silent vote yes. This has been talked about all year if you want to believe DPL. This wasn’t just a thrown together discussion.

So believe or don’t believe people on here? But obviously there’s a good chance we are changing back.

I don’t think that’s accurate. What specifically were the things that were “proven true?”

This is a big forum. But people posted here that they were hearing, and much of it has indeed become truthful. Regarding surveys being sent out, US club being on board, USYS getting involved, that this was all real and going to a vote in November was argued until a month ago. Even then some argued it until DPL post said what we all knew to be true. If you listen objectively.

Obviously don’t believe everyone or everything but some people obviously have been right about some things.

No one is denying any of it. We are saying that at the end of the day US Soccer will decide —and what they decide is what the youth leagues decide.

As of now, US Soccer has no real reason to move back.

That is what we are saying. DPLs pr basically is basically saying what we have all been saying. That it will be decided in November.

There are some SY freaks that are saying it’s a done deal when that is not true.

Just think about what you said. I’m paraphrasing so you can correct me. US soccer will decide based off what the youth leagues decide? So if someone gets info from a youth league who has decided to switch to SY. Then that means it is a done deal outside of a vote that is just for show at that point?

It’s a predetermined vote essentially.
Because why would the youth leagues push something for a vote unless they wanted to change the rules?

Because we don’t know for sure what leagues have decided what.

Youth soccer is more than just ECNL.
USYS was not 100% sold but could be influenced.
You don’t know AYSOs stance.
You don’t know USSSAs stance.

I’m saying assume the leagues have already decided! And people know that the leagues have decided then wouldn’t it be a done deal at this point? If Us Soccer is planning on deferring to the leagues anyways.

Again, no telling. We only know that ECNL is for SY.
GA could stay BY and snag ECNL kids.
GA could go SY.
USYS could go SY

Don’t be surprised if GA, stays BY. They are governed by US Soccer so unless us soccer makes it a mandate they could stay BY. But they also want to be a college recruiting platform.

Them being YNT/Pro focus does not affect college.

ECNL being college focused could lead to less YNT talent.

GA is not YNT / Pro focused. They’re a college platform

GA YNT/Pro focused . . . ha ha ha.

What’s funny. They were just sanctioned less than a year ago. these things take time. You better believe their goal is to recreate DA with the ability to play high school.

In my opinion the leaders of GA are soccer experts and not business people. While ECNL seem to be both. The DA failing was a real black spot on US Soccer. So random DA programs banded together to try to recreate it. It was OK, but ECNL seems to be playing bridge to GA playing go fish.

Also many GA programs switched to allowing kids to play high school because kids wanted to play high school and, guess who was able to accommodate them...........yep, ECNL. When kids started defecting they changed the rules.

And the same clubs that run ECNL ran DA. All it will take is for ECNL to fumble a little and GA will pick up where ECNL left off 😏

I would love for the GA backers to name one value proposition that GA has over ECNL. And please dont say their "partnership" agreement with USSF. Not one person can tell me what that actually means practically.

Never said it was better. This is a waiting game bud. DA was much better than ECNL at the time. ECNL waited and boom, took over..

GA has had years to think about this. This isn’t going to happen overnight

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trust me when I say this is not a done deal. As many clubs and league operators are not on board and are fighting against their own governing body. The So Cal League is taking the BIrth year stance and will fight back against a change to school year. The questions comes down to does the majority of clubs want to change? So cal is a big league so I’m sure they have some say.

This is not a presidential race that is too close to call or you even have a vote.

The decision has already been made, and clubs must prepare it long before the official notice. The "vote" is purely for the "show." The ECNL and DPL link already give too many hints that this is a done deal.

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Anonymous wrote:Trust me when I say this is not a done deal. As many clubs and league operators are not on board and are fighting against their own governing body. The So Cal League is taking the BIrth year stance and will fight back against a change to school year. The questions comes down to does the majority of clubs want to change? So cal is a big league so I’m sure they have some say.

This is not a presidential race that is too close to call or you even have a vote.

The decision has already been made, and clubs must prepare it long before the official notice. The "vote" is purely for the "show." The ECNL and DPL link already give too many hints that this is a done deal.

DPL was the voice for GA and DPL that they are caving in to ECNL

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Anonymous wrote:Trust me when I say this is not a done deal. As many clubs and league operators are not on board and are fighting against their own governing body. The So Cal League is taking the BIrth year stance and will fight back against a change to school year. The questions comes down to does the majority of clubs want to change? So cal is a big league so I’m sure they have some say.

This is not a presidential race that is too close to call or you even have a vote.

The decision has already been made, and clubs must prepare it long before the official notice. The "vote" is purely for the "show." The ECNL and DPL link already give too many hints that this is a done deal.

DPL was the voice for GA and DPL that they are caving in to ECNL

It looks to me like ECNL uses its own influence to persuade other leagues to switch to SY behind the scenes. This will increase ECNL's value a lot, as it will align better with college recruiting. Other leagues are "forced" to switch or face the potential to lose market share and revenue to ECNL.

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Anonymous wrote:Trust me when I say this is not a done deal. As many clubs and league operators are not on board and are fighting against their own governing body. The So Cal League is taking the BIrth year stance and will fight back against a change to school year. The questions comes down to does the majority of clubs want to change? So cal is a big league so I’m sure they have some say.

This is not a presidential race that is too close to call or you even have a vote.

The decision has already been made, and clubs must prepare it long before the official notice. The "vote" is purely for the "show." The ECNL and DPL link already give too many hints that this is a done deal.

DPL was the voice for GA and DPL that they are caving in to ECNL

It is odd that the DPL (the minor league affiliate of GA) put out a release and GA did not. I assume the DPL PR team ran the release by the GA powers that be and got approval. And the only reason to put anything out at all was to trickle the news probably. So I guess I agree with you.

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Anonymous wrote:Trust me when I say this is not a done deal. As many clubs and league operators are not on board and are fighting against their own governing body. The So Cal League is taking the BIrth year stance and will fight back against a change to school year. The questions comes down to does the majority of clubs want to change? So cal is a big league so I’m sure they have some say.

This is not a presidential race that is too close to call or you even have a vote.

The decision has already been made, and clubs must prepare it long before the official notice. The "vote" is purely for the "show." The ECNL and DPL link already give too many hints that this is a done deal.

DPL was the voice for GA and DPL that they are caving in to ECNL

It looks to me like ECNL uses its own influence to persuade other leagues to switch to SY behind the scenes. This will increase ECNL's value a lot, as it will align better with college recruiting. Other leagues are "forced" to switch or face the potential to lose market share and revenue to ECNL.

Or they made some nice deals to some nice clubs in different leagues to encourage those leagues to convert 😏

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Anonymous wrote:Trust me when I say this is not a done deal. As many clubs and league operators are not on board and are fighting against their own governing body. The So Cal League is taking the BIrth year stance and will fight back against a change to school year. The questions comes down to does the majority of clubs want to change? So cal is a big league so I’m sure they have some say.

This is not a presidential race that is too close to call or you even have a vote.

The decision has already been made, and clubs must prepare it long before the official notice. The "vote" is purely for the "show." The ECNL and DPL link already give too many hints that this is a done deal.

DPL was the voice for GA and DPL that they are caving in to ECNL

It is odd that the DPL (the minor league affiliate of GA) put out a release and GA did not. I assume the DPL PR team ran the release by the GA powers that be and got approval. And the only reason to put anything out at all was to trickle the news probably. So I guess I agree with you.

DPL board of directors = GA Founding members…

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Anonymous wrote:WHO would post fake emails from soccer organizations? It’s decided that they are fake? Maybe someone needs to get a job.

Boredom? Fun? S&gigglrs, psycho-parent, drama, wishful thinking? Lots of simple reasons.

That’s not new to our community. There are journalists who come on DCUM and create discussions in order to write stories…. I’m not legitimizing the faking stuff.

One of the people on SoCal called one of the fakers out for copying and pasting from an academic study and claiming it came from some ussoccer insider. Same person copy and pasted a post from DCUM and put a claimed it was an email from Chris Leahey…So And making “bold (hedged) decisions about things that are already known” or posted on rumor twitter accounts before they’re circulated on other threads.

I think they’re just enjoying getting everyone to jump and the attention they get from posting things that keep things going.

Okay let’s say 100 people make stuff up which could be true? But that doesn’t mean 1 person isn’t giving real inside info? There has been enough comments on here that have been proven truthful. Which. People have been hearing this was a real possibility and that leagues like US club or USYS have already discussed for a while and had their own silent vote yes. This has been talked about all year if you want to believe DPL. This wasn’t just a thrown together discussion.

So believe or don’t believe people on here? But obviously there’s a good chance we are changing back.

I don’t think that’s accurate. What specifically were the things that were “proven true?”

This is a big forum. But people posted here that they were hearing, and much of it has indeed become truthful. Regarding surveys being sent out, US club being on board, USYS getting involved, that this was all real and going to a vote in November was argued until a month ago. Even then some argued it until DPL post said what we all knew to be true. If you listen objectively.

Obviously don’t believe everyone or everything but some people obviously have been right about some things.

No one is denying any of it. We are saying that at the end of the day US Soccer will decide —and what they decide is what the youth leagues decide.

As of now, US Soccer has no real reason to move back.

That is what we are saying. DPLs pr basically is basically saying what we have all been saying. That it will be decided in November.

There are some SY freaks that are saying it’s a done deal when that is not true.

Just think about what you said. I’m paraphrasing so you can correct me. US soccer will decide based off what the youth leagues decide? So if someone gets info from a youth league who has decided to switch to SY. Then that means it is a done deal outside of a vote that is just for show at that point?

It’s a predetermined vote essentially.
Because why would the youth leagues push something for a vote unless they wanted to change the rules?

Because we don’t know for sure what leagues have decided what.

Youth soccer is more than just ECNL.
USYS was not 100% sold but could be influenced.
You don’t know AYSOs stance.
You don’t know USSSAs stance.

I’m saying assume the leagues have already decided! And people know that the leagues have decided then wouldn’t it be a done deal at this point? If Us Soccer is planning on deferring to the leagues anyways.

Again, no telling. We only know that ECNL is for SY.
GA could stay BY and snag ECNL kids.
GA could go SY.
USYS could go SY

Don’t be surprised if GA, stays BY. They are governed by US Soccer so unless us soccer makes it a mandate they could stay BY. But they also want to be a college recruiting platform.

Them being YNT/Pro focus does not affect college.

ECNL being college focused could lead to less YNT talent.

GA is not YNT / Pro focused. They’re a college platform

GA YNT/Pro focused . . . ha ha ha.

What’s funny. They were just sanctioned less than a year ago. these things take time. You better believe their goal is to recreate DA with the ability to play high school.

In my opinion the leaders of GA are soccer experts and not business people. While ECNL seem to be both. The DA failing was a real black spot on US Soccer. So random DA programs banded together to try to recreate it. It was OK, but ECNL seems to be playing bridge to GA playing go fish.

Also many GA programs switched to allowing kids to play high school because kids wanted to play high school and, guess who was able to accommodate them...........yep, ECNL. When kids started defecting they changed the rules.

And the same clubs that run ECNL ran DA. All it will take is for ECNL to fumble a little and GA will pick up where ECNL left off 😏

I would love for the GA backers to name one value proposition that GA has over ECNL. And please dont say their "partnership" agreement with USSF. Not one person can tell me what that actually means practically.

Never said it was better. This is a waiting game bud. DA was much better than ECNL at the time. ECNL waited and boom, took over..

GA has had years to think about this. This isn’t going to happen overnight

You never said it was better but implied it was equal or close to being equal. I am saying that GA is not even close to being an ECNL compeititor. And I would love to know the evidence that you rely on to say DA was much better than ECNL when it folded. Because I dont see it that way. Better than GA currently, probably. Better than ECNL, not so much. I have two elite older kids. One went through DA and one through ECNL. The only real difference I saw was one allowed for high school and one did not. If you went to a crap high school you played DA. If you didn't, you went to ECNL.

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Anonymous wrote:WHO would post fake emails from soccer organizations? It’s decided that they are fake? Maybe someone needs to get a job.

Boredom? Fun? S&gigglrs, psycho-parent, drama, wishful thinking? Lots of simple reasons.

That’s not new to our community. There are journalists who come on DCUM and create discussions in order to write stories…. I’m not legitimizing the faking stuff.

One of the people on SoCal called one of the fakers out for copying and pasting from an academic study and claiming it came from some ussoccer insider. Same person copy and pasted a post from DCUM and put a claimed it was an email from Chris Leahey…So And making “bold (hedged) decisions about things that are already known” or posted on rumor twitter accounts before they’re circulated on other threads.

I think they’re just enjoying getting everyone to jump and the attention they get from posting things that keep things going.

Okay let’s say 100 people make stuff up which could be true? But that doesn’t mean 1 person isn’t giving real inside info? There has been enough comments on here that have been proven truthful. Which. People have been hearing this was a real possibility and that leagues like US club or USYS have already discussed for a while and had their own silent vote yes. This has been talked about all year if you want to believe DPL. This wasn’t just a thrown together discussion.

So believe or don’t believe people on here? But obviously there’s a good chance we are changing back.

I don’t think that’s accurate. What specifically were the things that were “proven true?”

This is a big forum. But people posted here that they were hearing, and much of it has indeed become truthful. Regarding surveys being sent out, US club being on board, USYS getting involved, that this was all real and going to a vote in November was argued until a month ago. Even then some argued it until DPL post said what we all knew to be true. If you listen objectively.

Obviously don’t believe everyone or everything but some people obviously have been right about some things.

No one is denying any of it. We are saying that at the end of the day US Soccer will decide —and what they decide is what the youth leagues decide.

As of now, US Soccer has no real reason to move back.

That is what we are saying. DPLs pr basically is basically saying what we have all been saying. That it will be decided in November.

There are some SY freaks that are saying it’s a done deal when that is not true.

Just think about what you said. I’m paraphrasing so you can correct me. US soccer will decide based off what the youth leagues decide? So if someone gets info from a youth league who has decided to switch to SY. Then that means it is a done deal outside of a vote that is just for show at that point?

It’s a predetermined vote essentially.
Because why would the youth leagues push something for a vote unless they wanted to change the rules?

Because we don’t know for sure what leagues have decided what.

Youth soccer is more than just ECNL.
USYS was not 100% sold but could be influenced.
You don’t know AYSOs stance.
You don’t know USSSAs stance.

I’m saying assume the leagues have already decided! And people know that the leagues have decided then wouldn’t it be a done deal at this point? If Us Soccer is planning on deferring to the leagues anyways.

Again, no telling. We only know that ECNL is for SY.
GA could stay BY and snag ECNL kids.
GA could go SY.
USYS could go SY

Don’t be surprised if GA, stays BY. They are governed by US Soccer so unless us soccer makes it a mandate they could stay BY. But they also want to be a college recruiting platform.

Them being YNT/Pro focus does not affect college.

ECNL being college focused could lead to less YNT talent.

GA is not YNT / Pro focused. They’re a college platform

GA YNT/Pro focused . . . ha ha ha.

What’s funny. They were just sanctioned less than a year ago. these things take time. You better believe their goal is to recreate DA with the ability to play high school.

In my opinion the leaders of GA are soccer experts and not business people. While ECNL seem to be both. The DA failing was a real black spot on US Soccer. So random DA programs banded together to try to recreate it. It was OK, but ECNL seems to be playing bridge to GA playing go fish.

Also many GA programs switched to allowing kids to play high school because kids wanted to play high school and, guess who was able to accommodate them...........yep, ECNL. When kids started defecting they changed the rules.

And the same clubs that run ECNL ran DA. All it will take is for ECNL to fumble a little and GA will pick up where ECNL left off 😏

I would love for the GA backers to name one value proposition that GA has over ECNL. And please dont say their "partnership" agreement with USSF. Not one person can tell me what that actually means practically.

Never said it was better. This is a waiting game bud. DA was much better than ECNL at the time. ECNL waited and boom, took over..

GA has had years to think about this. This isn’t going to happen overnight

You never said it was better but implied it was equal or close to being equal. I am saying that GA is not even close to being an ECNL compeititor. And I would love to know the evidence that you rely on to say DA was much better than ECNL when it folded. Because I dont see it that way. Better than GA currently, probably. Better than ECNL, not so much. I have two elite older kids. One went through DA and one through ECNL. The only real difference I saw was one allowed for high school and one did not. If you went to a crap high school you played DA. If you didn't, you went to ECNL.

Now you are just being an ass.
The fact that you are even arguing with someone about GA not being a competitor to ECNL shows me that they are. you are spilling your heart out trying to deflect.

GA Has 20% of the market share when it comes to kids in college. Some of that 20% belonged to ECNL. That is a. Competitor