ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Anonymous wrote:WHO would post fake emails from soccer organizations? It’s decided that they are fake? Maybe someone needs to get a job.

Boredom? Fun? S&gigglrs, psycho-parent, drama, wishful thinking? Lots of simple reasons.

That’s not new to our community. There are journalists who come on DCUM and create discussions in order to write stories…. I’m not legitimizing the faking stuff.

One of the people on SoCal called one of the fakers out for copying and pasting from an academic study and claiming it came from some ussoccer insider. Same person copy and pasted a post from DCUM and put a claimed it was an email from Chris Leahey…So And making “bold (hedged) decisions about things that are already known” or posted on rumor twitter accounts before they’re circulated on other threads.

I think they’re just enjoying getting everyone to jump and the attention they get from posting things that keep things going.

Okay let’s say 100 people make stuff up which could be true? But that doesn’t mean 1 person isn’t giving real inside info? There has been enough comments on here that have been proven truthful. Which. People have been hearing this was a real possibility and that leagues like US club or USYS have already discussed for a while and had their own silent vote yes. This has been talked about all year if you want to believe DPL. This wasn’t just a thrown together discussion.

So believe or don’t believe people on here? But obviously there’s a good chance we are changing back.

I don’t think that’s accurate. What specifically were the things that were “proven true?”

This is a big forum. But people posted here that they were hearing, and much of it has indeed become truthful. Regarding surveys being sent out, US club being on board, USYS getting involved, that this was all real and going to a vote in November was argued until a month ago. Even then some argued it until DPL post said what we all knew to be true. If you listen objectively.

Obviously don’t believe everyone or everything but some people obviously have been right about some things.

No one is denying any of it. We are saying that at the end of the day US Soccer will decide —and what they decide is what the youth leagues decide.

As of now, US Soccer has no real reason to move back.

That is what we are saying. DPLs pr basically is basically saying what we have all been saying. That it will be decided in November.

There are some SY freaks that are saying it’s a done deal when that is not true.

Just think about what you said. I’m paraphrasing so you can correct me. US soccer will decide based off what the youth leagues decide? So if someone gets info from a youth league who has decided to switch to SY. Then that means it is a done deal outside of a vote that is just for show at that point?

It’s a predetermined vote essentially.
Because why would the youth leagues push something for a vote unless they wanted to change the rules?

Because we don’t know for sure what leagues have decided what.

Youth soccer is more than just ECNL.
USYS was not 100% sold but could be influenced.
You don’t know AYSOs stance.
You don’t know USSSAs stance.

I’m saying assume the leagues have already decided! And people know that the leagues have decided then wouldn’t it be a done deal at this point? If Us Soccer is planning on deferring to the leagues anyways.

The DPL link says that US Soccer will ultimately make the decision to change or not.

The first SOCAL cut and paste (which might not be real) said that US Soccer would defer to leagues and let them decide.

Yup. What US Soccer says will go. If ECNL and a few leagues decide to go alone, they will suffer the consequences

ECNL girls won’t suffer anything they own the market. The boys side is TBD? Maybe grad year will be more appealing to some MLSN Aug to Dec kids? Will take about 3-5 years to really know how this made an effect.

Wouldn’t be so sure about that.

Little sally on the current 2011 U14 is about to get bumped by Q4 2010s (on both 1st and 2nd team)…

Think they will be ok moving down to 2nd team? Or do they go play top team next door…

Good! Nothing wrong with getting two competitive leagues where parents have options. Isn’t that better for kids and families?

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Anonymous wrote:Things like this do not go for a "vote" unless the outcome is known.

If the outcome were uncertain, it would be up for "discussion".

Yes at this point it’s just for show. The outcome has already been decided.

For someone who is not reading 155 pages, what is the assumed outcome of the vote? That we will be going back to SY as opposed to BY?

Could go either way.

On this site you're only getting the ECNL parents perspective.

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Anonymous wrote:Things like this do not go for a "vote" unless the outcome is known.

If the outcome were uncertain, it would be up for "discussion".

Yes at this point it’s just for show. The outcome has already been decided.

For someone who is not reading 155 pages, what is the assumed outcome of the vote? That we will be going back to SY as opposed to BY?

The sources who have proved themselves most credible over the last few months say it's "likely to go SY, but not guaranteed."

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Anonymous wrote:Things like this do not go for a "vote" unless the outcome is known.

If the outcome were uncertain, it would be up for "discussion".

Yes at this point it’s just for show. The outcome has already been decided.

For someone who is not reading 155 pages, what is the assumed outcome of the vote? That we will be going back to SY as opposed to BY?

Looking more and more like SY everyday. But staying BY doesn’t look like it’s completely off the table yet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Things like this do not go for a "vote" unless the outcome is known.

If the outcome were uncertain, it would be up for "discussion".

Yes at this point it’s just for show. The outcome has already been decided.

For someone who is not reading 155 pages, what is the assumed outcome of the vote? That we will be going back to SY as opposed to BY?

Looking more and more like SY everyday. But staying BY doesn’t look like it’s completely off the table yet.

And this would impact all leagues considering this would be a US soccer decision? I have kids who are just about to start U9 and when I heard it was by BY now I was so confused haha. When I played it was SY

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Things like this do not go for a "vote" unless the outcome is known.

If the outcome were uncertain, it would be up for "discussion".

Yes at this point it’s just for show. The outcome has already been decided.

For someone who is not reading 155 pages, what is the assumed outcome of the vote? That we will be going back to SY as opposed to BY?

Looking more and more like SY everyday. But staying BY doesn’t look like it’s completely off the table yet.

And this would impact all leagues considering this would be a US soccer decision? I have kids who are just about to start U9 and when I heard it was by BY now I was so confused haha. When I played it was SY

Sounds like Us soccer will differ to various leagues to decide. Rather than make it a mandate.

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Anonymous wrote:WHO would post fake emails from soccer organizations? It’s decided that they are fake? Maybe someone needs to get a job.

Boredom? Fun? S&gigglrs, psycho-parent, drama, wishful thinking? Lots of simple reasons.

That’s not new to our community. There are journalists who come on DCUM and create discussions in order to write stories…. I’m not legitimizing the faking stuff.

One of the people on SoCal called one of the fakers out for copying and pasting from an academic study and claiming it came from some ussoccer insider. Same person copy and pasted a post from DCUM and put a claimed it was an email from Chris Leahey…So And making “bold (hedged) decisions about things that are already known” or posted on rumor twitter accounts before they’re circulated on other threads.

I think they’re just enjoying getting everyone to jump and the attention they get from posting things that keep things going.

Okay let’s say 100 people make stuff up which could be true? But that doesn’t mean 1 person isn’t giving real inside info? There has been enough comments on here that have been proven truthful. Which. People have been hearing this was a real possibility and that leagues like US club or USYS have already discussed for a while and had their own silent vote yes. This has been talked about all year if you want to believe DPL. This wasn’t just a thrown together discussion.

So believe or don’t believe people on here? But obviously there’s a good chance we are changing back.

I don’t think that’s accurate. What specifically were the things that were “proven true?”

This is a big forum. But people posted here that they were hearing, and much of it has indeed become truthful. Regarding surveys being sent out, US club being on board, USYS getting involved, that this was all real and going to a vote in November was argued until a month ago. Even then some argued it until DPL post said what we all knew to be true. If you listen objectively.

Obviously don’t believe everyone or everything but some people obviously have been right about some things.

No one is denying any of it. We are saying that at the end of the day US Soccer will decide —and what they decide is what the youth leagues decide.

As of now, US Soccer has no real reason to move back.

That is what we are saying. DPLs pr basically is basically saying what we have all been saying. That it will be decided in November.

There are some SY freaks that are saying it’s a done deal when that is not true.

Just think about what you said. I’m paraphrasing so you can correct me. US soccer will decide based off what the youth leagues decide? So if someone gets info from a youth league who has decided to switch to SY. Then that means it is a done deal outside of a vote that is just for show at that point?

It’s a predetermined vote essentially.
Because why would the youth leagues push something for a vote unless they wanted to change the rules?

Because we don’t know for sure what leagues have decided what.

Youth soccer is more than just ECNL.
USYS was not 100% sold but could be influenced.
You don’t know AYSOs stance.
You don’t know USSSAs stance.

I’m saying assume the leagues have already decided! And people know that the leagues have decided then wouldn’t it be a done deal at this point? If Us Soccer is planning on deferring to the leagues anyways.

Again, no telling. We only know that ECNL is for SY.
GA could stay BY and snag ECNL kids.
GA could go SY.
USYS could go SY

Don’t be surprised if GA, stays BY. They are governed by US Soccer so unless us soccer makes it a mandate they could stay BY. But they also want to be a college recruiting platform.

Them being YNT/Pro focus does not affect college.

ECNL being college focused could lead to less YNT talent.

GA is not YNT / Pro focused. They’re a college platform

GA YNT/Pro focused . . . ha ha ha.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Things like this do not go for a "vote" unless the outcome is known.

If the outcome were uncertain, it would be up for "discussion".

Yes at this point it’s just for show. The outcome has already been decided.

For someone who is not reading 155 pages, what is the assumed outcome of the vote? That we will be going back to SY as opposed to BY?

Looking more and more like SY everyday. But staying BY doesn’t look like it’s completely off the table yet.

And this would impact all leagues considering this would be a US soccer decision? I have kids who are just about to start U9 and when I heard it was by BY now I was so confused haha. When I played it was SY

Sounds like Us soccer will differ to various leagues to decide. Rather than make it a mandate.

That's now what the DPL link said.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Things like this do not go for a "vote" unless the outcome is known.

If the outcome were uncertain, it would be up for "discussion".

Yes at this point it’s just for show. The outcome has already been decided.

For someone who is not reading 155 pages, what is the assumed outcome of the vote? That we will be going back to SY as opposed to BY?

Looking more and more like SY everyday. But staying BY doesn’t look like it’s completely off the table yet.

And this would impact all leagues considering this would be a US soccer decision? I have kids who are just about to start U9 and when I heard it was by BY now I was so confused haha. When I played it was SY

Sounds like Us soccer will differ to various leagues to decide. Rather than make it a mandate.

That's now what the DPL link said.

That's NOT what the DPL link said.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Things like this do not go for a "vote" unless the outcome is known.

If the outcome were uncertain, it would be up for "discussion".

Yes at this point it’s just for show. The outcome has already been decided.

For someone who is not reading 155 pages, what is the assumed outcome of the vote? That we will be going back to SY as opposed to BY?

Looking more and more like SY everyday. But staying BY doesn’t look like it’s completely off the table yet.

And this would impact all leagues considering this would be a US soccer decision? I have kids who are just about to start U9 and when I heard it was by BY now I was so confused haha. When I played it was SY

Sounds like Us soccer will differ to various leagues to decide. Rather than make it a mandate.

No that reading is wrong. It wil be mandate one way or the other.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Things like this do not go for a "vote" unless the outcome is known.

If the outcome were uncertain, it would be up for "discussion".

Yes at this point it’s just for show. The outcome has already been decided.

For someone who is not reading 155 pages, what is the assumed outcome of the vote? That we will be going back to SY as opposed to BY?

Looking more and more like SY everyday. But staying BY doesn’t look like it’s completely off the table yet.

And this would impact all leagues considering this would be a US soccer decision? I have kids who are just about to start U9 and when I heard it was by BY now I was so confused haha. When I played it was SY

Sounds like Us soccer will differ to various leagues to decide. Rather than make it a mandate.

Based on what? A fake email?

DPLs PR says US Soccer will decide.

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Anonymous wrote:WHO would post fake emails from soccer organizations? It’s decided that they are fake? Maybe someone needs to get a job.

Boredom? Fun? S&gigglrs, psycho-parent, drama, wishful thinking? Lots of simple reasons.

That’s not new to our community. There are journalists who come on DCUM and create discussions in order to write stories…. I’m not legitimizing the faking stuff.

One of the people on SoCal called one of the fakers out for copying and pasting from an academic study and claiming it came from some ussoccer insider. Same person copy and pasted a post from DCUM and put a claimed it was an email from Chris Leahey…So And making “bold (hedged) decisions about things that are already known” or posted on rumor twitter accounts before they’re circulated on other threads.

I think they’re just enjoying getting everyone to jump and the attention they get from posting things that keep things going.

Okay let’s say 100 people make stuff up which could be true? But that doesn’t mean 1 person isn’t giving real inside info? There has been enough comments on here that have been proven truthful. Which. People have been hearing this was a real possibility and that leagues like US club or USYS have already discussed for a while and had their own silent vote yes. This has been talked about all year if you want to believe DPL. This wasn’t just a thrown together discussion.

So believe or don’t believe people on here? But obviously there’s a good chance we are changing back.

I don’t think that’s accurate. What specifically were the things that were “proven true?”

This is a big forum. But people posted here that they were hearing, and much of it has indeed become truthful. Regarding surveys being sent out, US club being on board, USYS getting involved, that this was all real and going to a vote in November was argued until a month ago. Even then some argued it until DPL post said what we all knew to be true. If you listen objectively.

Obviously don’t believe everyone or everything but some people obviously have been right about some things.

No one is denying any of it. We are saying that at the end of the day US Soccer will decide —and what they decide is what the youth leagues decide.

As of now, US Soccer has no real reason to move back.

That is what we are saying. DPLs pr basically is basically saying what we have all been saying. That it will be decided in November.

There are some SY freaks that are saying it’s a done deal when that is not true.

Just think about what you said. I’m paraphrasing so you can correct me. US soccer will decide based off what the youth leagues decide? So if someone gets info from a youth league who has decided to switch to SY. Then that means it is a done deal outside of a vote that is just for show at that point?

It’s a predetermined vote essentially.
Because why would the youth leagues push something for a vote unless they wanted to change the rules?

Because we don’t know for sure what leagues have decided what.

Youth soccer is more than just ECNL.
USYS was not 100% sold but could be influenced.
You don’t know AYSOs stance.
You don’t know USSSAs stance.

I’m saying assume the leagues have already decided! And people know that the leagues have decided then wouldn’t it be a done deal at this point? If Us Soccer is planning on deferring to the leagues anyways.

Again, no telling. We only know that ECNL is for SY.
GA could stay BY and snag ECNL kids.
GA could go SY.
USYS could go SY

Don’t be surprised if GA, stays BY. They are governed by US Soccer so unless us soccer makes it a mandate they could stay BY. But they also want to be a college recruiting platform.

Them being YNT/Pro focus does not affect college.

ECNL being college focused could lead to less YNT talent.

GA is not YNT / Pro focused. They’re a college platform

GA YNT/Pro focused . . . ha ha ha.

What’s funny. They were just sanctioned less than a year ago. these things take time. You better believe their goal is to recreate DA with the ability to play high school.

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Anonymous wrote:WHO would post fake emails from soccer organizations? It’s decided that they are fake? Maybe someone needs to get a job.

Boredom? Fun? S&gigglrs, psycho-parent, drama, wishful thinking? Lots of simple reasons.

That’s not new to our community. There are journalists who come on DCUM and create discussions in order to write stories…. I’m not legitimizing the faking stuff.

One of the people on SoCal called one of the fakers out for copying and pasting from an academic study and claiming it came from some ussoccer insider. Same person copy and pasted a post from DCUM and put a claimed it was an email from Chris Leahey…So And making “bold (hedged) decisions about things that are already known” or posted on rumor twitter accounts before they’re circulated on other threads.

I think they’re just enjoying getting everyone to jump and the attention they get from posting things that keep things going.

Okay let’s say 100 people make stuff up which could be true? But that doesn’t mean 1 person isn’t giving real inside info? There has been enough comments on here that have been proven truthful. Which. People have been hearing this was a real possibility and that leagues like US club or USYS have already discussed for a while and had their own silent vote yes. This has been talked about all year if you want to believe DPL. This wasn’t just a thrown together discussion.

So believe or don’t believe people on here? But obviously there’s a good chance we are changing back.

I don’t think that’s accurate. What specifically were the things that were “proven true?”

This is a big forum. But people posted here that they were hearing, and much of it has indeed become truthful. Regarding surveys being sent out, US club being on board, USYS getting involved, that this was all real and going to a vote in November was argued until a month ago. Even then some argued it until DPL post said what we all knew to be true. If you listen objectively.

Obviously don’t believe everyone or everything but some people obviously have been right about some things.

No one is denying any of it. We are saying that at the end of the day US Soccer will decide —and what they decide is what the youth leagues decide.

As of now, US Soccer has no real reason to move back.

That is what we are saying. DPLs pr basically is basically saying what we have all been saying. That it will be decided in November.

There are some SY freaks that are saying it’s a done deal when that is not true.

Just think about what you said. I’m paraphrasing so you can correct me. US soccer will decide based off what the youth leagues decide? So if someone gets info from a youth league who has decided to switch to SY. Then that means it is a done deal outside of a vote that is just for show at that point?

It’s a predetermined vote essentially.
Because why would the youth leagues push something for a vote unless they wanted to change the rules?

Because we don’t know for sure what leagues have decided what.

Youth soccer is more than just ECNL.
USYS was not 100% sold but could be influenced.
You don’t know AYSOs stance.
You don’t know USSSAs stance.

I’m saying assume the leagues have already decided! And people know that the leagues have decided then wouldn’t it be a done deal at this point? If Us Soccer is planning on deferring to the leagues anyways.

Again, no telling. We only know that ECNL is for SY.
GA could stay BY and snag ECNL kids.
GA could go SY.
USYS could go SY

Don’t be surprised if GA, stays BY. They are governed by US Soccer so unless us soccer makes it a mandate they could stay BY. But they also want to be a college recruiting platform.

Them being YNT/Pro focus does not affect college.

ECNL being college focused could lead to less YNT talent.

GA is not YNT / Pro focused. They’re a college platform

GA YNT/Pro focused . . . ha ha ha.

What’s funny. They were just sanctioned less than a year ago. these things take time. You better believe their goal is to recreate DA with the ability to play high school.

Seems like USSF would love that, but is GA just going to hand over their league to USSF? Is USSF going to subsidize any costs for clubs/players from its own revenue? Other than BY cutoffs, it's not clear what they would do to try to pull the most talented girls away from ECNL.

[Anonymous]

It won't impact every kid but which team they will be playing for next year would depend on the coach and how the teams looking. Some will stay on current team and some will be moved down and this will be case by case for each player.

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Anonymous wrote:WHO would post fake emails from soccer organizations? It’s decided that they are fake? Maybe someone needs to get a job.

Boredom? Fun? S&gigglrs, psycho-parent, drama, wishful thinking? Lots of simple reasons.

That’s not new to our community. There are journalists who come on DCUM and create discussions in order to write stories…. I’m not legitimizing the faking stuff.

One of the people on SoCal called one of the fakers out for copying and pasting from an academic study and claiming it came from some ussoccer insider. Same person copy and pasted a post from DCUM and put a claimed it was an email from Chris Leahey…So And making “bold (hedged) decisions about things that are already known” or posted on rumor twitter accounts before they’re circulated on other threads.

I think they’re just enjoying getting everyone to jump and the attention they get from posting things that keep things going.

Okay let’s say 100 people make stuff up which could be true? But that doesn’t mean 1 person isn’t giving real inside info? There has been enough comments on here that have been proven truthful. Which. People have been hearing this was a real possibility and that leagues like US club or USYS have already discussed for a while and had their own silent vote yes. This has been talked about all year if you want to believe DPL. This wasn’t just a thrown together discussion.

So believe or don’t believe people on here? But obviously there’s a good chance we are changing back.

I don’t think that’s accurate. What specifically were the things that were “proven true?”

This is a big forum. But people posted here that they were hearing, and much of it has indeed become truthful. Regarding surveys being sent out, US club being on board, USYS getting involved, that this was all real and going to a vote in November was argued until a month ago. Even then some argued it until DPL post said what we all knew to be true. If you listen objectively.

Obviously don’t believe everyone or everything but some people obviously have been right about some things.

No one is denying any of it. We are saying that at the end of the day US Soccer will decide —and what they decide is what the youth leagues decide.

As of now, US Soccer has no real reason to move back.

That is what we are saying. DPLs pr basically is basically saying what we have all been saying. That it will be decided in November.

There are some SY freaks that are saying it’s a done deal when that is not true.

Just think about what you said. I’m paraphrasing so you can correct me. US soccer will decide based off what the youth leagues decide? So if someone gets info from a youth league who has decided to switch to SY. Then that means it is a done deal outside of a vote that is just for show at that point?

It’s a predetermined vote essentially.
Because why would the youth leagues push something for a vote unless they wanted to change the rules?

Because we don’t know for sure what leagues have decided what.

Youth soccer is more than just ECNL.
USYS was not 100% sold but could be influenced.
You don’t know AYSOs stance.
You don’t know USSSAs stance.

I’m saying assume the leagues have already decided! And people know that the leagues have decided then wouldn’t it be a done deal at this point? If Us Soccer is planning on deferring to the leagues anyways.

Again, no telling. We only know that ECNL is for SY.
GA could stay BY and snag ECNL kids.
GA could go SY.
USYS could go SY

Don’t be surprised if GA, stays BY. They are governed by US Soccer so unless us soccer makes it a mandate they could stay BY. But they also want to be a college recruiting platform.

Them being YNT/Pro focus does not affect college.

ECNL being college focused could lead to less YNT talent.

GA is not YNT / Pro focused. They’re a college platform

GA YNT/Pro focused . . . ha ha ha.

What’s funny. They were just sanctioned less than a year ago. these things take time. You better believe their goal is to recreate DA with the ability to play high school.

Wasn’t DA free?