Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:So his body was flown with an honor guard?

That’s…new.

I feel like I am missing something. This guy wasn’t very well known, sorry to burst some bubbles. It’s horrible, devastating, same as any death due to murder. But why the pomp and circumstance?

Seems like a part of some plan to rile up the base.

Now the paranoia is kicking in.

Trump said tonight that "we just have to beat the hell out of the radical left lunatics". So, as they say, it's not paranoia if they're really out to get you

I agree. If you are a radical left lunatic, you should probably be paranoid with reason.

Well, I get called some combination of those terms a few times a week. What Trump and his MAGA cultist consider to be a radical left lunatic is not exactly the dictionary definition.

You are rational normal left. Ignore the rabble rousers. The biggest long term problem the American people face is not each other, right or left, or conservative or progressive; it's the GOP and Dem Parties with their agendas to divide the American people in an unnatural and very unhealthy way. At the end of the day, it's all about money with the top 2% winning as usual.

No, it's the MAGA GOP who have been constantly promoting civil war from the highest seat of government. Biden's admin has nothing of the monstrosity that Trump's team has spewed daily for 10 years.

Their unchecked hate led them to fire all the competent people at the FBI, and now they can't find any "subjects", as Kash Patel calls them, in the killing of Charlie Kirk.

No one is fooled by your "both sides" BS.

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Anonymous wrote:PP is nuts. I am Dem who had no clue who this guy was (or why people are reacting this way). I couldn’t have disliked what he was saying because I didn’t know he existed, the same reason I’m not “glad” he’s dead, again because I didn’t know a thing about him.

So basically you know nothing.

DP

PP is just a regular normie like me. Not part of the small elite group who was aware of this Kirk's existence.

MAGAs are so deep in their bubble they assume all the whack jobs they listen to are known by everyone

Correct. I never heard of him until he said Taylor Swift would " turn conservative " once she got married. So sexist.

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Anonymous wrote:Unpopular opinion: The media coverage of this murder is wildly out of proportion to Charlie Kirk’s relevance.

A lot more people agree with you than not. Look this 24-hour news coverage is ridiculous. Not one mention today of the murders in Colorado. Half of America are saying Charlie who, or that guy who was killed that’s all in the news. What did he do?

Yeah I had never heard his name before the shooting. Even after the shooting I had no idea it would blow up like this.

This is the first I had ever heard of Charlie Kirk. Absolutely no clue who this person was.

He is MAGA famous. If you aren’t into online political content on twitter and tik tok, odds are you won’t know him.

He was youth famous. It is not surprising DCUM posters, who tend to be out of touch with youth trends, did not know him.

He was WHITE youth famous.

You obviously don’t spend a lot of time with Latino teen boys.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope Republicans come out in droves in the midterms and gain a supermajority in both houses based on this violence. Then it’s Amendment time.

What amendment are you looking for?

Charlie Kirk's death will be long forgotten by the midterms.

E X A M P L E

Goddamn it’s like talking to a 5 year old.

Let’s see for starters:

(1) Ending anchor babies. If you enter illegally you can never gain citizenship. Babies born of illegal parents are not automatically US citizens.
(2) Permanently set the number of SOTUS judges. No packing the court.
(3) Air-tight voter ID requirements. Must be a US citizen to vote.
(4) Legalize abortion up to 12-15 weeks with exceptions. Yes I actually agree with the Dems on this one. In fact, I’m betting most aborted babies would have turned into Dems/Libs so let them abort away.
(5) Prohibit gerrymandering. Not sure how to draw the congressional districts fairly and without bias because everyone has a bias especially the lefty bias on DCUM.
(6) Balanced Budget requirement
(7) Prohibit PACs and anything to do with big money influencing politics.
(8) Term limits for Congressman and Senators.
(9) Change the 2nd Amendment to restrict gun ownership. I don’t think this will stop criminals and those with criminal intent from acquiring guns but it’s a start.


I’m sure I can come up with more.

Not what I was expecting. Some good middle-ground and common sense stuff in there.

How stupid are you?

Our elections are basically fraud free. And it’s not illegals that voted illegally it was republicans in Florida and mark meadows and Tommy Tubberbille and glen Youngkin’s twat of a son who should be in jail. The Heritage foundation did a study eve. They said it’s a nothing burger moron!

If it’s a nothing burger then it shouldn’t be a problem implementing strict voter ID requirements to prove you are a citizen of the appropriate age, and of the appropriate geographical area. Many states already have this.

It's a nothingburger until it's not.

My 83-year-old WWII Marine lost his ID in a nursing home. He was too frail to go to the DMV.

Under your rules, he wouldn't be able to vote.

Lots of the poor run into this as well. No IDs, because IDs AREN"T FREE.

Huh? When was this? WWII veterans are at least 99+ years old now.

It was an example. There are a thousand iterations of such a situation. In a time like this can’t you argue your ideas in good faith?

There are only a small handful of WW2 veterans still alive, nowhere near a thousand.

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Anonymous wrote:I think many of you leftists have no idea why Kirk's assassination has turned into such a big deal.

Kirk was doing it "the right way" according to the left. Disagree politely, listen, give the other side space.

And he was killed because leftists didn't like what he had to say (as this thread amply shows) and they didn't want him to keep saying it.

Lots and lots of the "Democrat base" are celebrating and cheering the deliberate murder of someone who had the guts to publicly disagree with the left. "Debate this!" I see the signs being posted on college campuses, with a drawing of Kirk bleeding out from his neck.

So.

What value is there is "peace" and "restraint" when leftists murdered the most prominent guy on the right who was all about peace and restraint? And celebrate his death?

If you leftists are so glad to see Kirk killed... well, there's no possibility of peace, is there. He WAS the "peaceful solution". And leftists murdered him for it. Or at least are very happy about it.

If Kirk is not acceptable to the left.... we all know you guys would GLADLY kill the rest of us, too.

Kirk was a sort of "ambassador" to the left... and he was murdered because of it. What happens when an ambassador is killed? That's a casus belli and has been since Ghengis Khan, at the very least.

You have no idea why he was killed or who killed him, so maybe just calm down a bit.

This is now they operate. Lie, lie, lie, never give a hair's breadth for the truth to sneak in. Rally their savage followers to terrorism, then cry "my hands are clean!"

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Anonymous wrote:PP is nuts. I am Dem who had no clue who this guy was (or why people are reacting this way). I couldn’t have disliked what he was saying because I didn’t know he existed, the same reason I’m not “glad” he’s dead, again because I didn’t know a thing about him.

So basically you know nothing.

DP

PP is just a regular normie like me. Not part of the small elite group who was aware of this Kirk's existence.

It's difficult for the hyper-partisan freaks to understand how some people prefer to seek truths as opposed to Fox/MSNBC garbage.

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There's a whole range of different reasons why a whole range of different people might want Charlie Kirk dead.

I’m interested in who, if you don’t mind sharing. I’m genuinely asking - I didn’t know who Kirk was and now I’ve seen a bunch of his clips. He just seemed very very Christian to me but not a “threat”. So I’m intrigued on which groups would want him silenced.

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Why does a MAGA get shot at every time Trump is in deep trouble? He seem to have the same tactic repeatedly.

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Anonymous wrote:LIKE HIM OR NOT THE FBI SHOULDN'T BE TAKING THIS LONG

They don’t want to actually find the person who did it.

Or maybe they do but podcast hosts aren’t good at supervising solving the murder of a podcast host.

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Anonymous wrote:Even the NFL held a moment of silence for Charlie Kirk. Yankees did as well last night.

All that for a Youtuber?

This is our society now, this is white MAGA millennials coming of age. Sure just ignore all the children who were just shot in the past few weeks or the poor Ukrainian girl whose throat was slit. Forget them. Yes, we look up to the youtubers, the instagram fakery, the contrived, curated social media bullshi!x , yes that’s truly what’s important here!

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Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So his body was flown with an honor guard?

That’s…new.

I feel like I am missing something. This guy wasn’t very well known, sorry to burst some bubbles. It’s horrible, devastating, same as any death due to murder. But why the pomp and circumstance?

Seems like a part of some plan to rile up the base.

Now the paranoia is kicking in.

Trump said tonight that "we just have to beat the hell out of the radical left lunatics". So, as they say, it's not paranoia if they're really out to get you

I agree. If you are a radical left lunatic, you should probably be paranoid with reason.

Well, I get called some combination of those terms a few times a week. What Trump and his MAGA cultist consider to be a radical left lunatic is not exactly the dictionary definition.

You are rational normal left. Ignore the rabble rousers. The biggest long term problem the American people face is not each other, right or left, or conservative or progressive; it's the GOP and Dem Parties with their agendas to divide the American people in an unnatural and very unhealthy way. At the end of the day, it's all about money with the top 2% winning as usual.

No, it's the MAGA GOP who have been constantly promoting civil war from the highest seat of government. Biden's admin has nothing of the monstrosity that Trump's team has spewed daily for 10 years.

Their unchecked hate led them to fire all the competent people at the FBI, and now they can't find any "subjects", as Kash Patel calls them, in the killing of Charlie Kirk.

No one is fooled by your "both sides" BS.

+100

Any time I hear the “both sides” line, I know it’s a maga troll

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Anonymous wrote:Shooter drags his right leg.

Is that a fake limp?

Either that or it is AFTER jumping off of the roof

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Anonymous wrote:This is a sad turning point in America.

We are all doomed.

We’re only doomed if we don’t get maga violence in check and stopped. These people are willing to kill and are armed to the teeth. We MUST get them under control. If we don’t not, then yes, we are doomed.

You have no idea if this was a crazy democrat but you're very quick to blame trump supporters. I don't think your comments going to age well.

Trump supporters, including those who are elected officials, are the ones calling for war following this terrible shooting.

Lol what????!

Utter insanity. They need to shut down the internet -- it's worse than a brain worm.

I support this. The internet has not been a net positive. It’s destroying us.

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There's a whole range of different reasons why a whole range of different people might want Charlie Kirk dead.

I’m interested in who, if you don’t mind sharing. I’m genuinely asking - I didn’t know who Kirk was and now I’ve seen a bunch of his clips. He just seemed very very Christian to me but not a “threat”. So I’m intrigued on which groups would want him silenced.

No one really. This is just a product of the hate culture pushed by our two major political parties. What are we going to do to fix this? Love, maybe?

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Anonymous wrote:I hope Republicans come out in droves in the midterms and gain a supermajority in both houses based on this violence. Then it’s Amendment time.

What amendment are you looking for?

Charlie Kirk's death will be long forgotten by the midterms.

E X A M P L E

Goddamn it’s like talking to a 5 year old.

Let’s see for starters:

(1) Ending anchor babies. If you enter illegally you can never gain citizenship. Babies born of illegal parents are not automatically US citizens.
(2) Permanently set the number of SOTUS judges. No packing the court.
(3) Air-tight voter ID requirements. Must be a US citizen to vote.
(4) Legalize abortion up to 12-15 weeks with exceptions. Yes I actually agree with the Dems on this one. In fact, I’m betting most aborted babies would have turned into Dems/Libs so let them abort away.
(5) Prohibit gerrymandering. Not sure how to draw the congressional districts fairly and without bias because everyone has a bias especially the lefty bias on DCUM.
(6) Balanced Budget requirement
(7) Prohibit PACs and anything to do with big money influencing politics.
(8) Term limits for Congressman and Senators.
(9) Change the 2nd Amendment to restrict gun ownership. I don’t think this will stop criminals and those with criminal intent from acquiring guns but it’s a start.


I’m sure I can come up with more.

Not what I was expecting. Some good middle-ground and common sense stuff in there.

How stupid are you?

Our elections are basically fraud free. And it’s not illegals that voted illegally it was republicans in Florida and mark meadows and Tommy Tubberbille and glen Youngkin’s twat of a son who should be in jail. The Heritage foundation did a study eve. They said it’s a nothing burger moron!

If it’s a nothing burger then it shouldn’t be a problem implementing strict voter ID requirements to prove you are a citizen of the appropriate age, and of the appropriate geographical area. Many states already have this.

It's a nothingburger until it's not.

My 83-year-old WWII Marine lost his ID in a nursing home. He was too frail to go to the DMV.

Under your rules, he wouldn't be able to vote.

Lots of the poor run into this as well. No IDs, because IDs AREN"T FREE.

Huh? When was this? WWII veterans are at least 99+ years old now.

It was an example. There are a thousand iterations of such a situation. In a time like this can’t you argue your ideas in good faith?

There are only a small handful of WW2 veterans still alive, nowhere near a thousand.

They’d be at least 100 years old now.