Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This 4th of July, fly the Blue & Yellow flag of Freedom proudly alongside Old Glory!!!!!!

Glory to Ukraine!
Glory to Biden!


Glory to...Biden? That's off-putting.

He is a president, not a deity.


OK, long live the Queen then.
Anonymous
It is so refreshing that President Zelenskiy tells Republicans to shut up and to continue sending the $$$:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/07/02/zelensky-gop-support-russia-ukraine-leighton-acostanr-vpx.cnn
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This 4th of July, fly the Blue & Yellow flag of Freedom proudly alongside Old Glory!!!!!!

Glory to Ukraine!
Glory to Biden!


Glory to...Biden? That's off-putting.

He is a president, not a deity.


Tell that to the MAGAs with Trump flags everywhere.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This 4th of July, fly the Blue & Yellow flag of Freedom proudly alongside Old Glory!!!!!!

Glory to Ukraine!
Glory to Biden!


Glory to...Biden? That's off-putting.

He is a president, not a deity.


Tell that to the MAGAs with Trump flags everywhere.

Dems haven’t seen anything like it in recent memory. Poor Joe has practically no one showing up for him.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This 4th of July, fly the Blue & Yellow flag of Freedom proudly alongside Old Glory!!!!!!

Glory to Ukraine!
Glory to Biden!


Glory to...Biden? That's off-putting.

He is a president, not a deity.


Tell that to the MAGAs with Trump flags everywhere.

Dems haven’t seen anything like it in recent memory. Poor Joe has practically no one showing up for him.


81 million of us showed up at the polls, and that's the only thing that ultimately matters far more than a few thousand Trump cultists showing up at some venue.
Anonymous
If you've noticed a sharp drop (at least temporarily) of pro-Trump / MAGA propaganda on this or other websites, it's not because the Russian's are on holiday celebrating the 4th of July. The Russian internal witch hunt seems to have helped disrupt part of the Russian troll farms that interfered with US elections. This should help more clearly identify internet traffic directly associated to the Internet Research Agency - since they will be silent (at least for now). And if Putin wants to quickly re-spin these back up again, it will further drain the foreign exchange funds he directly controls - which should be interesting if he has to rob Peter?

"As of Saturday, websites of the RIA FAN news agency and four online news portals controlled by Prigozhin's Patriot media holding company "People's News", "Neva News", "Politics Today" and "Economy Today" -- were listed on a register of blacklisted sites maintained by the communications watchdog, Roskomnadzor."
"Unconfirmed reports in Russian news outlets Friday claimed that Prigozhin himself had ordered a shut down of St. Petersburg-based Patriot. Prigozhin has not directly confirmed or denied the reports.
Patriot, founded in 2019 to bring together Prigozhin's media and internet assets, included the Internet Research Agency, the so-called "troll farm" linked to Russian attempts to meddle in U.S. elections."
"Patriot director Yevgeny Zubarev said this week that the Internet Research Agency, which was tasked with conducting online influence operations to advance Russian interests, had operated under Prigozhin's control since 2009 before being brought under the Patriot umbrella."
https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20230702/p2g/00m/0in/008000c

The witch hunt in Russia is off to a fine start, and it looks like the ultranationalists are in the lead. This is an example of a Russian public trial / interrogation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY-zTi_ZXtw

Notice the host of this show is Roman Babayan. His backgroud is interesting. He's a "journalist" who's been awarded the Order "For Personal Courage", the NATO medal "For participation in the NATO peacekeeping operation in Kosovo", Medal "For Strengthening of Brotherhood in Arms", the medal "For Strengthening the Military Commonwealth", Medal "For the Return of Crimea" and the Combat Brotherhood medal.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/?oldid=97164361
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q16272951

One of Babayan's supporters on the Russian State Duma is Oleg Matveychev. Oleg "dreamed of gathering the Russian opposition on a city square and calling in an army of tanks to mow them down. 'And then, like after Tiananmen in China, we would also have 10% annual economic growth after 20 or 30 years'"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleg_Matveychev

Babayan has a reputation as a "role is to provoke conflicts between the participants of the talk shows, to increase the degree of aggression and to expose opponents of the Kremlin’s policy as stupid, weak and hot-tempered people"
"On his talk show, he regularly screams at his guests and even engages in fights"
https://www.spisok-putina.org/en/personas/babayan-2/

This is possibly a sign that the people on the panel of this show are "suspected" of lacking complete loyalty? That is significant since the tables have been turned on the Iron Beaver (Margarita Simonyan, Head of RT, and often the show's host when she appears)

With this in mind, watch this show carefully.
[0:51/7:15] Head nodding and eye reaction to her statements.
[1:18 / 7:15] Admission of knowing Prigozhin many years.
[1:34 / 7:15] The accusation of Michael Bohm that he believed Prigozhin would succeed
[2:00 / 7:15] The accusation that Prigozhin was Michael Bohm's favorite authory
[2:49 / 7:15] Implying there was a connection between Prigozhin's actions and Michael's publications
[4:40 / 7:15] The Iron Beaver smells blood in the water and starts shoving Michael under the bus
[5:15 / 7:15] The Iron Beaver figuratively points the finger taunting 'I told you so'
[6:30 / 7:15] By this time Babayan had Margarita on the defensive, explaining why it's a bad idea to attack western capital cities.

"That disaffection creates a once-in-a-generation opportunity for us at the CIA - at our core a human intelligence service. We're not letting it go to waste."
https://news.sky.com/story/putins-mistakes-giving-us-once-in-a-generation-chance-to-recruit-russian-spies-says-cia-director-12913242
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you've noticed a sharp drop (at least temporarily) of pro-Trump / MAGA propaganda on this or other websites, it's not because the Russian's are on holiday celebrating the 4th of July. The Russian internal witch hunt seems to have helped disrupt part of the Russian troll farms that interfered with US elections. This should help more clearly identify internet traffic directly associated to the Internet Research Agency - since they will be silent (at least for now). And if Putin wants to quickly re-spin these back up again, it will further drain the foreign exchange funds he directly controls - which should be interesting if he has to rob Peter?

"As of Saturday, websites of the RIA FAN news agency and four online news portals controlled by Prigozhin's Patriot media holding company "People's News", "Neva News", "Politics Today" and "Economy Today" -- were listed on a register of blacklisted sites maintained by the communications watchdog, Roskomnadzor."
"Unconfirmed reports in Russian news outlets Friday claimed that Prigozhin himself had ordered a shut down of St. Petersburg-based Patriot. Prigozhin has not directly confirmed or denied the reports.
Patriot, founded in 2019 to bring together Prigozhin's media and internet assets, included the Internet Research Agency, the so-called "troll farm" linked to Russian attempts to meddle in U.S. elections."
"Patriot director Yevgeny Zubarev said this week that the Internet Research Agency, which was tasked with conducting online influence operations to advance Russian interests, had operated under Prigozhin's control since 2009 before being brought under the Patriot umbrella."
https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20230702/p2g/00m/0in/008000c

The witch hunt in Russia is off to a fine start, and it looks like the ultranationalists are in the lead. This is an example of a Russian public trial / interrogation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY-zTi_ZXtw

Notice the host of this show is Roman Babayan. His backgroud is interesting. He's a "journalist" who's been awarded the Order "For Personal Courage", the NATO medal "For participation in the NATO peacekeeping operation in Kosovo", Medal "For Strengthening of Brotherhood in Arms", the medal "For Strengthening the Military Commonwealth", Medal "For the Return of Crimea" and the Combat Brotherhood medal.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/?oldid=97164361
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q16272951

One of Babayan's supporters on the Russian State Duma is Oleg Matveychev. Oleg "dreamed of gathering the Russian opposition on a city square and calling in an army of tanks to mow them down. 'And then, like after Tiananmen in China, we would also have 10% annual economic growth after 20 or 30 years'"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleg_Matveychev

Babayan has a reputation as a "role is to provoke conflicts between the participants of the talk shows, to increase the degree of aggression and to expose opponents of the Kremlin’s policy as stupid, weak and hot-tempered people"
"On his talk show, he regularly screams at his guests and even engages in fights"
https://www.spisok-putina.org/en/personas/babayan-2/

This is possibly a sign that the people on the panel of this show are "suspected" of lacking complete loyalty? That is significant since the tables have been turned on the Iron Beaver (Margarita Simonyan, Head of RT, and often the show's host when she appears)

With this in mind, watch this show carefully.
[0:51/7:15] Head nodding and eye reaction to her statements.
[1:18 / 7:15] Admission of knowing Prigozhin many years.
[1:34 / 7:15] The accusation of Michael Bohm that he believed Prigozhin would succeed
[2:00 / 7:15] The accusation that Prigozhin was Michael Bohm's favorite authory
[2:49 / 7:15] Implying there was a connection between Prigozhin's actions and Michael's publications
[4:40 / 7:15] The Iron Beaver smells blood in the water and starts shoving Michael under the bus
[5:15 / 7:15] The Iron Beaver figuratively points the finger taunting 'I told you so'
[6:30 / 7:15] By this time Babayan had Margarita on the defensive, explaining why it's a bad idea to attack western capital cities.

"That disaffection creates a once-in-a-generation opportunity for us at the CIA - at our core a human intelligence service. We're not letting it go to waste."
https://news.sky.com/story/putins-mistakes-giving-us-once-in-a-generation-chance-to-recruit-russian-spies-says-cia-director-12913242


There you go again, anyone who disagrees with your "Glory to Biden!" thing must be a troll.

I mean it couldn't possibly be the case that you've bored others to tears, could it?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It is so refreshing that President Zelenskiy tells Republicans to shut up and to continue sending the $$$:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/07/02/zelensky-gop-support-russia-ukraine-leighton-acostanr-vpx.cnn


It would be amusing to see how Zelensky's fortunes will turn out at the end.

Typically history is not kind to men who had such a meteoric rise for reasons outside of their merit, and then believed their own PR. Nowhere to go but down. Check back in ten years.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you've noticed a sharp drop (at least temporarily) of pro-Trump / MAGA propaganda on this or other websites, it's not because the Russian's are on holiday celebrating the 4th of July. The Russian internal witch hunt seems to have helped disrupt part of the Russian troll farms that interfered with US elections. This should help more clearly identify internet traffic directly associated to the Internet Research Agency - since they will be silent (at least for now). And if Putin wants to quickly re-spin these back up again, it will further drain the foreign exchange funds he directly controls - which should be interesting if he has to rob Peter?

"As of Saturday, websites of the RIA FAN news agency and four online news portals controlled by Prigozhin's Patriot media holding company "People's News", "Neva News", "Politics Today" and "Economy Today" -- were listed on a register of blacklisted sites maintained by the communications watchdog, Roskomnadzor."
"Unconfirmed reports in Russian news outlets Friday claimed that Prigozhin himself had ordered a shut down of St. Petersburg-based Patriot. Prigozhin has not directly confirmed or denied the reports.
Patriot, founded in 2019 to bring together Prigozhin's media and internet assets, included the Internet Research Agency, the so-called "troll farm" linked to Russian attempts to meddle in U.S. elections."
"Patriot director Yevgeny Zubarev said this week that the Internet Research Agency, which was tasked with conducting online influence operations to advance Russian interests, had operated under Prigozhin's control since 2009 before being brought under the Patriot umbrella."
https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20230702/p2g/00m/0in/008000c

The witch hunt in Russia is off to a fine start, and it looks like the ultranationalists are in the lead. This is an example of a Russian public trial / interrogation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY-zTi_ZXtw

Notice the host of this show is Roman Babayan. His backgroud is interesting. He's a "journalist" who's been awarded the Order "For Personal Courage", the NATO medal "For participation in the NATO peacekeeping operation in Kosovo", Medal "For Strengthening of Brotherhood in Arms", the medal "For Strengthening the Military Commonwealth", Medal "For the Return of Crimea" and the Combat Brotherhood medal.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/?oldid=97164361
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q16272951

One of Babayan's supporters on the Russian State Duma is Oleg Matveychev. Oleg "dreamed of gathering the Russian opposition on a city square and calling in an army of tanks to mow them down. 'And then, like after Tiananmen in China, we would also have 10% annual economic growth after 20 or 30 years'"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleg_Matveychev

Babayan has a reputation as a "role is to provoke conflicts between the participants of the talk shows, to increase the degree of aggression and to expose opponents of the Kremlin’s policy as stupid, weak and hot-tempered people"
"On his talk show, he regularly screams at his guests and even engages in fights"
https://www.spisok-putina.org/en/personas/babayan-2/

This is possibly a sign that the people on the panel of this show are "suspected" of lacking complete loyalty? That is significant since the tables have been turned on the Iron Beaver (Margarita Simonyan, Head of RT, and often the show's host when she appears)

With this in mind, watch this show carefully.
[0:51/7:15] Head nodding and eye reaction to her statements.
[1:18 / 7:15] Admission of knowing Prigozhin many years.
[1:34 / 7:15] The accusation of Michael Bohm that he believed Prigozhin would succeed
[2:00 / 7:15] The accusation that Prigozhin was Michael Bohm's favorite authory
[2:49 / 7:15] Implying there was a connection between Prigozhin's actions and Michael's publications
[4:40 / 7:15] The Iron Beaver smells blood in the water and starts shoving Michael under the bus
[5:15 / 7:15] The Iron Beaver figuratively points the finger taunting 'I told you so'
[6:30 / 7:15] By this time Babayan had Margarita on the defensive, explaining why it's a bad idea to attack western capital cities.

"That disaffection creates a once-in-a-generation opportunity for us at the CIA - at our core a human intelligence service. We're not letting it go to waste."
https://news.sky.com/story/putins-mistakes-giving-us-once-in-a-generation-chance-to-recruit-russian-spies-says-cia-director-12913242


There you go again, anyone who disagrees with your "Glory to Biden!" thing must be a troll.

I mean it couldn't possibly be the case that you've bored others to tears, could it?


Sorry? I think you're thinking of someone else's post? There are more than one people posting here.

I didn't mention Biden. I mentioned Trump, whom I believe was Russia's 'useful idiot' in the White House. I also believe that Russian intelligence files hold dirt on many, many government and elected officials. Check out the older threads on Tucker for a big list of possibly compromised Americans.

I also believe that if this article is true (700K children kidnapped), that this is Russia's new model of re-filling it's soldier pipeline - kidnapping the children of those they conquer.

"Russia confirms hosting 700,000 Ukrainian children from war zones"
https://www.dailysabah.com/world/europe/russia-confirms-hosting-700000-ukrainian-children-from-war-zones

If you want to spew drivel about Biden, go find another thread that cares. My concern is the indifference people like you have over what's really happening between Ukraine and Russia. I think you should pay more attention - since it could affect your own children someday.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is so refreshing that President Zelenskiy tells Republicans to shut up and to continue sending the $$$:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/07/02/zelensky-gop-support-russia-ukraine-leighton-acostanr-vpx.cnn


It would be amusing to see how Zelensky's fortunes will turn out at the end.

Typically history is not kind to men who had such a meteoric rise for reasons outside of their merit, and then believed their own PR. Nowhere to go but down. Check back in ten years.


Men like Zelensky are fighting against this -

"Alexei Moskalyov was sentenced in March to two years in a penal colony for discrediting the Russian army"
"the investigation started after Masha, then 12, drew a picture last year showing Russian missiles raining down on a Ukrainian mother and child, prompting the head of her school to call the police."
"the case drew world attention as Masha was removed from her father and placed in a children's home before his trial."
"some people in the courtroom cried when Moskalyov read out a letter from Masha in which she called him the world's best father and told him: "We will be together, whatever happens.""
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-court-spurns-emotional-appeal-161516242.html

Christian Crusaders were ridiculed and died for their beliefs. Yet, history remembers them.

Regardless of Zelensky's fate in ten years, good or otherwise, he will be remembered forever as a man of principle who fought for justice.

And you? Will history fondly remember you for making snide remarks on an anonymous board?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is so refreshing that President Zelenskiy tells Republicans to shut up and to continue sending the $$$:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/07/02/zelensky-gop-support-russia-ukraine-leighton-acostanr-vpx.cnn


It would be amusing to see how Zelensky's fortunes will turn out at the end.

Typically history is not kind to men who had such a meteoric rise for reasons outside of their merit, and then believed their own PR. Nowhere to go but down. Check back in ten years.


Men like Zelensky are fighting against this -

"Alexei Moskalyov was sentenced in March to two years in a penal colony for discrediting the Russian army"
"the investigation started after Masha, then 12, drew a picture last year showing Russian missiles raining down on a Ukrainian mother and child, prompting the head of her school to call the police."
"the case drew world attention as Masha was removed from her father and placed in a children's home before his trial."
"some people in the courtroom cried when Moskalyov read out a letter from Masha in which she called him the world's best father and told him: "We will be together, whatever happens.""
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-court-spurns-emotional-appeal-161516242.html

Christian Crusaders were ridiculed and died for their beliefs. Yet, history remembers them.

Regardless of Zelensky's fate in ten years, good or otherwise, he will be remembered forever as a man of principle who fought for justice.

And you? Will history fondly remember you for making snide remarks on an anonymous board?


You're assuming there will be a Ukraine with Ukrainians in it to remember. At this rate, there might be some sort of rump state filled with "workers" from all over the world called Ukraine, but it will bare little resemblance to the pre-2014 Ukraine. Any actual Ukrainians left will develop nostalgia for the pre-Maidan coup days, much like many developed Soviet nostalgia.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is so refreshing that President Zelenskiy tells Republicans to shut up and to continue sending the $$$:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/07/02/zelensky-gop-support-russia-ukraine-leighton-acostanr-vpx.cnn


It would be amusing to see how Zelensky's fortunes will turn out at the end.

Typically history is not kind to men who had such a meteoric rise for reasons outside of their merit, and then believed their own PR. Nowhere to go but down. Check back in ten years.


Men like Zelensky are fighting against this -

"Alexei Moskalyov was sentenced in March to two years in a penal colony for discrediting the Russian army"
"the investigation started after Masha, then 12, drew a picture last year showing Russian missiles raining down on a Ukrainian mother and child, prompting the head of her school to call the police."
"the case drew world attention as Masha was removed from her father and placed in a children's home before his trial."
"some people in the courtroom cried when Moskalyov read out a letter from Masha in which she called him the world's best father and told him: "We will be together, whatever happens.""
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-court-spurns-emotional-appeal-161516242.html

Christian Crusaders were ridiculed and died for their beliefs. Yet, history remembers them.

Regardless of Zelensky's fate in ten years, good or otherwise, he will be remembered forever as a man of principle who fought for justice.

And you? Will history fondly remember you for making snide remarks on an anonymous board?


You're assuming there will be an Ukraine with Ukrainians in it to remember. At this rate, there might be some sort of rump state filled with "workers" from all over the world called Ukraine, but it will bare little resemblance to the pre-2014 Ukraine. Any actual Ukrainians left will develop nostalgia for the pre-Maidan coup days, much like many developed Soviet nostalgia.


Only if Fox News puts on a Ukrainian network.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is so refreshing that President Zelenskiy tells Republicans to shut up and to continue sending the $$$:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/07/02/zelensky-gop-support-russia-ukraine-leighton-acostanr-vpx.cnn


It would be amusing to see how Zelensky's fortunes will turn out at the end.

Typically history is not kind to men who had such a meteoric rise for reasons outside of their merit, and then believed their own PR. Nowhere to go but down. Check back in ten years.


Men like Zelensky are fighting against this -

"Alexei Moskalyov was sentenced in March to two years in a penal colony for discrediting the Russian army"
"the investigation started after Masha, then 12, drew a picture last year showing Russian missiles raining down on a Ukrainian mother and child, prompting the head of her school to call the police."
"the case drew world attention as Masha was removed from her father and placed in a children's home before his trial."
"some people in the courtroom cried when Moskalyov read out a letter from Masha in which she called him the world's best father and told him: "We will be together, whatever happens.""
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-court-spurns-emotional-appeal-161516242.html

Christian Crusaders were ridiculed and died for their beliefs. Yet, history remembers them.

Regardless of Zelensky's fate in ten years, good or otherwise, he will be remembered forever as a man of principle who fought for justice.

And you? Will history fondly remember you for making snide remarks on an anonymous board?


You're assuming there will be a Ukraine with Ukrainians in it to remember. At this rate, there might be some sort of rump state filled with "workers" from all over the world called Ukraine, but it will bare little resemblance to the pre-2014 Ukraine. Any actual Ukrainians left will develop nostalgia for the pre-Maidan coup days, much like many developed Soviet nostalgia.


You're mistaken. This war has only increased Ukrainian nationalism, patriotism and pride. They distance themselves more and more from being a puppet of Russia as they were under Yanukovich.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is so refreshing that President Zelenskiy tells Republicans to shut up and to continue sending the $$$:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/07/02/zelensky-gop-support-russia-ukraine-leighton-acostanr-vpx.cnn


It would be amusing to see how Zelensky's fortunes will turn out at the end.

Typically history is not kind to men who had such a meteoric rise for reasons outside of their merit, and then believed their own PR. Nowhere to go but down. Check back in ten years.


Men like Zelensky are fighting against this -

"Alexei Moskalyov was sentenced in March to two years in a penal colony for discrediting the Russian army"
"the investigation started after Masha, then 12, drew a picture last year showing Russian missiles raining down on a Ukrainian mother and child, prompting the head of her school to call the police."
"the case drew world attention as Masha was removed from her father and placed in a children's home before his trial."
"some people in the courtroom cried when Moskalyov read out a letter from Masha in which she called him the world's best father and told him: "We will be together, whatever happens.""
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-court-spurns-emotional-appeal-161516242.html

Christian Crusaders were ridiculed and died for their beliefs. Yet, history remembers them.

Regardless of Zelensky's fate in ten years, good or otherwise, he will be remembered forever as a man of principle who fought for justice.

And you? Will history fondly remember you for making snide remarks on an anonymous board?


You're assuming there will be a Ukraine with Ukrainians in it to remember. At this rate, there might be some sort of rump state filled with "workers" from all over the world called Ukraine, but it will bare little resemblance to the pre-2014 Ukraine. Any actual Ukrainians left will develop nostalgia for the pre-Maidan coup days, much like many developed Soviet nostalgia.


You're mistaken. This war has only increased Ukrainian nationalism, patriotism and pride. They distance themselves more and more from being a puppet of Russia as they were under Yanukovich.


Western Europe is full of patriotic Ukrainians.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is so refreshing that President Zelenskiy tells Republicans to shut up and to continue sending the $$$:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/07/02/zelensky-gop-support-russia-ukraine-leighton-acostanr-vpx.cnn


It would be amusing to see how Zelensky's fortunes will turn out at the end.

Typically history is not kind to men who had such a meteoric rise for reasons outside of their merit, and then believed their own PR. Nowhere to go but down. Check back in ten years.


Men like Zelensky are fighting against this -

"Alexei Moskalyov was sentenced in March to two years in a penal colony for discrediting the Russian army"
"the investigation started after Masha, then 12, drew a picture last year showing Russian missiles raining down on a Ukrainian mother and child, prompting the head of her school to call the police."
"the case drew world attention as Masha was removed from her father and placed in a children's home before his trial."
"some people in the courtroom cried when Moskalyov read out a letter from Masha in which she called him the world's best father and told him: "We will be together, whatever happens.""
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-court-spurns-emotional-appeal-161516242.html

Christian Crusaders were ridiculed and died for their beliefs. Yet, history remembers them.

Regardless of Zelensky's fate in ten years, good or otherwise, he will be remembered forever as a man of principle who fought for justice.

And you? Will history fondly remember you for making snide remarks on an anonymous board?


You're assuming there will be a Ukraine with Ukrainians in it to remember. At this rate, there might be some sort of rump state filled with "workers" from all over the world called Ukraine, but it will bare little resemblance to the pre-2014 Ukraine. Any actual Ukrainians left will develop nostalgia for the pre-Maidan coup days, much like many developed Soviet nostalgia.


You're mistaken. This war has only increased Ukrainian nationalism, patriotism and pride. They distance themselves more and more from being a puppet of Russia as they were under Yanukovich.


Western Europe is full of patriotic Ukrainians.


8 million fled when the war broke out. But since then, more than half of them have since returned, and the millions still in Europe are working hard to financially support their brothers and sisters and cousins and parents and uncles and sons and daughters who are fighting to reclaim Ukraine and rebuild from the illegal and criminal Russian occupation.
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