3rd grade Referral--Appeal

[Anonymous]

Hi,
I made parent referral for my 3rd grade DD with COGAT composite score of 129 (97 percentile) and a GBRS of 13.
Unfortunaltey he did not get selected for the AAP program. Not sure what went wrong.

Should I appeal or not ? Any one with similar experiences

[Anonymous]

That CogAT composite is somewhat low and the GBRS is almost average for AAP. You could consider a WISC if you want to spend the $.

What were your daughter's subtest scores?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi,
I made parent referral for my 3rd grade DD with COGAT composite score of 129 (97 percentile) and a GBRS of 13.
Unfortunaltey he did not get selected for the AAP program. Not sure what went wrong.

Should I appeal or not ? Any one with similar experiences

That is strange because GBRS is really good, however my DC had NNAT 160 and COGAT 134, but GBRS of 6 did not get in in 3rd grade, thinking of WISC, hope fully a good one will overcome the GBRS.

[Anonymous]

12:31- since the test scores are great, maybe get recommendations from adults that attest to your child's gifted behaviors? The WISC would seem redundant to me with such good scores, IMO.

[Anonymous]

12:31, based on postings in past threads, if your DC were to have a WISC at more or less 130 or above, your DC likely would be found eligible. With NNAT and CogAT scores like your DC's, it seems likely your DC would have a high WISC score as well. Good luck

[Anonymous]

12:31 , and forgot to add that my DC is already in AAP maths and then the teacher gives a GBRS 6 that is an insult.

[Anonymous]

12:31--I am truly sorry. This situation really seems unfair. Do you think the teacher just doesn't get your kid? I guess I'm wondering what went wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:12:31 , and forgot to add that my DC is already in AAP maths and then the teacher gives a GBRS 6 that is an insult.

Instead of thinking of it as an insult, why don't you read the GBRS and maybe look at your child thru the eyes of the teacher. last year DC got a GBRS of 9. Was accepted in the first round, but it made me think about how the teachers saw his abilities. You can see that even kids with a 13 or 14 GBRS can get rejected because that GBRS doesn't match with either the test scores or report card.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi,
I made parent referral for my 3rd grade DD with COGAT composite score of 129 (97 percentile) and a GBRS of 13.
Unfortunaltey he did not get selected for the AAP program. Not sure what went wrong.

Should I appeal or not ? Any one with similar experiences

If you have to ask the board if you should appeal then no you shouldn't. My DC was so far ahead of class that nothing could have kept me from trying to get her into the program (she was accepted 1st round). If you're so unsure, maybe DC doesn't really NEED the advancement, which is what the committee is saying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:12:31 , and forgot to add that my DC is already in AAP maths and then the teacher gives a GBRS 6 that is an insult.

Instead of thinking of it as an insult, why don't you read the GBRS and maybe look at your child thru the eyes of the teacher. last year DC got a GBRS of 9. Was accepted in the first round, but it made me think about how the teachers saw his abilities. You can see that even kids with a 13 or 14 GBRS can get rejected because that GBRS doesn't match with either the test scores or report card.

If he did not have the ability he would not be in AAP maths when I spoke to his teacher she actually said to me it was not his academic abilities that scored him such a low GBRS but his work habits for which he gets Gs in his report card, so is the AA(academic)P not about about academic abilities?

[Anonymous]

We made the decision to wait until 3rd grade and parent refer if necessary after being rejected, with very high in-pool scores, and a GBRS of 9. Our thought process was that ds had already more than met the testing criteria, and that perhaps a different teacher the following year might "get" our ds, or perhaps his increase in maturity over the 3rd grade year would make a difference. Without any new testing, he was admitted in the first round during 3rd grade, and has been doing great in AAP in 4th this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi,
I made parent referral for my 3rd grade DD with COGAT composite score of 129 (97 percentile) and a GBRS of 13.
Unfortunaltey he did not get selected for the AAP program. Not sure what went wrong.

Should I appeal or not ? Any one with similar experiences

What were the subscores? Was one really high and the other 2 low?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:12:31 , and forgot to add that my DC is already in AAP maths and then the teacher gives a GBRS 6 that is an insult.

Instead of thinking of it as an insult, why don't you read the GBRS and maybe look at your child thru the eyes of the teacher. last year DC got a GBRS of 9. Was accepted in the first round, but it made me think about how the teachers saw his abilities. You can see that even kids with a 13 or 14 GBRS can get rejected because that GBRS doesn't match with either the test scores or report card.

If he did not have the ability he would not be in AAP maths when I spoke to his teacher she actually said to me it was not his academic abilities that scored him such a low GBRS but his work habits for which he gets Gs in his report card, so is the AA(academic)P not about about academic abilities?

Maybe the committee feels that his needs are being met by the advanced math class alone. How are his verbal scores/grades/etc?

[Anonymous]

My dd got GBRS score 13 still rejected should I appeal with WISC. Any suggestions about
GMU testing x thanks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:12:31 , and forgot to add that my DC is already in AAP maths and then the teacher gives a GBRS 6 that is an insult.

Instead of thinking of it as an insult, why don't you read the GBRS and maybe look at your child thru the eyes of the teacher. last year DC got a GBRS of 9. Was accepted in the first round, but it made me think about how the teachers saw his abilities. You can see that even kids with a 13 or 14 GBRS can get rejected because that GBRS doesn't match with either the test scores or report card.

If he did not have the ability he would not be in AAP maths when I spoke to his teacher she actually said to me it was not his academic abilities that scored him such a low GBRS but his work habits for which he gets Gs in his report card, so is the AA(academic)P not about about academic abilities?

aap is more than just math