What happened to this California family?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I remember reading (maybe in another context) that there are very few veterinarian pathologists who do canine autopsies, so it may be taking a long time to get that done properly. It seems to me that this is a very challenging case for a human pathologist or toxicologist because of the number of things that they are potentially looking for, the time that elapsed since death, and the likely degradation of the bodies. So that may be slowing down the whole thing as perhaps they needed to call in specialists or send it to a more sophisticated lab for processing.

I think the tainted food folks are waaaay off. There's no way tainted food kills you that quickly. Even botulism....which is about as deadly as it gets with food issues....takes many hours to set in. So maybe they all ate something contaminated with botulism the night before and it hit them all simultaneously on the hike? Seems pretty unlikely. At most, a food born pathogen would likely only accelerate the heat stroke problem -- e.g., if it slowed them down or if they were vomiting, they could become more dehydrated more quickly than they had planned for in a hike. But it would make no sense not to split up and send the more healthly one for an ambulence if that was the case. People don't react on the same timeline or with the same severity to food poisoning.


This isn't true at all. Any university with a vet school can do a necropsy. I used to prosecute animal cruelty cases and I've personally requested at least a dozen of them. That strikes me as an implausible reason for substantial delay.


Yeah plus they were very close to UC Davis Vet School, one of the best (if not the best) vet schools in the country. That's probably where they sent the dog.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I remember reading (maybe in another context) that there are very few veterinarian pathologists who do canine autopsies, so it may be taking a long time to get that done properly. It seems to me that this is a very challenging case for a human pathologist or toxicologist because of the number of things that they are potentially looking for, the time that elapsed since death, and the likely degradation of the bodies. So that may be slowing down the whole thing as perhaps they needed to call in specialists or send it to a more sophisticated lab for processing.

I think the tainted food folks are waaaay off. There's no way tainted food kills you that quickly. Even botulism....which is about as deadly as it gets with food issues....takes many hours to set in. So maybe they all ate something contaminated with botulism the night before and it hit them all simultaneously on the hike? Seems pretty unlikely. At most, a food born pathogen would likely only accelerate the heat stroke problem -- e.g., if it slowed them down or if they were vomiting, they could become more dehydrated more quickly than they had planned for in a hike. But it would make no sense not to split up and send the more healthly one for an ambulence if that was the case. People don't react on the same timeline or with the same severity to food poisoning.


This isn't true at all. Any university with a vet school can do a necropsy. I used to prosecute animal cruelty cases and I've personally requested at least a dozen of them. That strikes me as an implausible reason for substantial delay.

Off topic, but omg that sounds like such a difficult role. I'm sure you heard/saw a lot of things that were incredibly hard to stomach. I could never.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lightning can cause a dendritic pattern but it seems like they would have noticed that. They could have eaten mayo or sushi that went bad in the heat. I also wonder if it was inadvertent FA. The dad could have chosen a tough hike to be macho, and she had a brain injury so might not have had the best judgement and went along with it. And then karma got him back for picking too hard of a hike for August. Another theory-a subterranean metallic ore deposit conducted lightning to strike in that area, might also be why it's called Devil's Gulch.


I know they’re from SF but nobody brings sushi on a long hike in the morning lol


I’m sorry, what did I just read. 3 people and a dog dropped dead from heated mayo? *Inadvertent* murder/suicide? Wtf


More idiocy. Mayo won't kill anyone. The stuff you buy in the grocery stores is almost 100% cheap oil. Generally no eggs or anything to go bad, certainly not bad enough to kill someone. Sushi on a hike? Girl where are you from and did you graduate from high school?
Anonymous
Hiking in someplace called Devil's Gulch with temps over 95 is never a good idea.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Hiking in someplace called Devil's Gulch with temps over 95 is never a good idea.


Especially while eating sushi and egg salad sandwiches.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hiking in someplace called Devil's Gulch with temps over 95 is never a good idea.


Especially while eating sushi and egg salad sandwiches.


That lure in the venomous snake demons who launch boulders and lightning bolts.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lightning can cause a dendritic pattern but it seems like they would have noticed that. They could have eaten mayo or sushi that went bad in the heat. I also wonder if it was inadvertent FA. The dad could have chosen a tough hike to be macho, and she had a brain injury so might not have had the best judgement and went along with it. And then karma got him back for picking too hard of a hike for August. Another theory-a subterranean metallic ore deposit conducted lightning to strike in that area, might also be why it's called Devil's Gulch.


I know they’re from SF but nobody brings sushi on a long hike in the morning lol


I’m sorry, what did I just read. 3 people and a dog dropped dead from heated mayo? *Inadvertent* murder/suicide? Wtf


More idiocy. Mayo won't kill anyone. The stuff you buy in the grocery stores is almost 100% cheap oil. Generally no eggs or anything to go bad, certainly not bad enough to kill someone. Sushi on a hike? Girl where are you from and did you graduate from high school?


That is not how karma works.
Anonymous
Any updates on this? I am so curious to find out what happened.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Any updates on this? I am so curious to find out what happened.


Same here. It’s been almost a month now. I just checked the Mariposa County police page on Facebook, no updates. Any day for those toxicology reports.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Any updates on this? I am so curious to find out what happened.


I came here to check too… wonder why there isn’t any new info?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any updates on this? I am so curious to find out what happened.


I came here to check too… wonder why there isn’t any new info?


If the FBI was pulled in, there’s probably a criminal element and extra layers of investigation.
Anonymous
I’m tired of checking this thread and not seeing any conclusive updates.
Anonymous
Any photos anywhere of what the trail CURRENTLY looks like? Dropping dead literally on the trail is the most bizarre part. There was ZERO shelter anywhere nearby? Not one single tree or tall bush? Not a boulder that shielded the sun?

Even if they began struggling, I find it hard to believe that all basically stopped on the trail. Seems you'd try to seek some shade and rest for a little...
Anonymous
FA
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:FA


What does FA mean?
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