Another ICE Shooting in Minnesota

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Instead of stop ice , help ice and then they can do their job?

That’s an interesting spin but no, the administration needs to figure out how to do its job. It’s failing, miserably.

They have billions in appropriations, but they need volunteer help? Sounds like we need to DOGE them if they are this incompetent at doing the jobs they are getting paid six figures to do.

[Anonymous]

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So he shouted and blew a whistle, and five agents tackled him, one kneeling on his back and breaking a rib? And then they, what, just let this dangerous whistling nurse go, with his broken rib?

Was he some kind of James Bond vigilante that out-tricked them to get away, or was it just, you know, harassment and violence by ICE against a nonviolent citizen in the street?

It sounds like he was actively pursuing ICE, and didn’t move back/got in the way when they told him to move away. If he was close enough to them to be tackled, he was too close. Police/ICE have an obligation to enforce safe boundaries between them and people when they are pursuing, making arrests, on duty. Then he goes and does it again a week later! He and the women were too close to them and in the road and wouldn’t back away. They were both getting pushed back. The lady got shoved in the snow then he puts himself in the middle of that situation and it creates another escalation. The gun complicated everything, unfortunately. You don’t get into a physical confrontation with LEO while carrying a gun- you avoid this situation at all costs.

Yeah, that dog don't hunt anymore. Catch up. Even the Trump administration is backing down on the justification.

Whether the officer was justified at shooting or not it is not for Trump administration to determined. If there were no justification, he should be charged and prosecuted, and if found guilty, serve his time. Administration is not backing down or up because they have no authority to make that determination.

And yet, they are! Will wonders never cease.

[Anonymous]

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^^PPS (my last one, as I have to get to work)

This reminds me of what happened with DOGE and federal employees. There really was this overarching assumption that "they're dumb, and lazy, and they're only doing their jobs because they get money for doing nothing. Offer them a glazed carrot on a stick, and we can take the whole thing down without even having to fire them." But nope. The overall numbers were a spit in the wind, and the civil service kept it together -- limping, but not crashing.

I think there was this thing about Minneapolis that "oooh, they're 'nice,' and it's a bunch of liberals who bake casseroles and live soft little lives in their soft little city that refuses to vote for me. Let's arm up some guys and let them loose, Call of Duty style." Welp. Doncha know, that isn't going as planned.

Trump underestimates America. So does Miller, so does Bannon, so does Vought. And they keep underestimating, and we keep learning what works. It's nice to be proud of something again.

+1 This administration also thinks that white people don’t want these “other people” in their neighborhoods and can’t imagine anyone lifting a finger to help them.

Why none of these neighbors helped any of the illegal immigrants to legalize? They surely could have sponsored them, help them with employment visa, talent visa, pay for their immigration attorneys to expedite them receiving green cards? Why do they think whistle blowing would help these illegal aliens somehow to obtain a legal status?

Most of the people being snatched were in the system, gaining legal status. They didn't need help to legalize. Don't you get it? ICE is standing at courthouses abducting people showing up for their status hearings or worse, for their swearing in ceremonies. They are not abducting the actual criminals that we all agree should be deported.

I don't think you get it, most the states don't have these kinds of problems. This is a Minneapolis problem.

Huh?

Minneapolis was fine til ICE surged 3,000 untrained morons into the city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Instead of stop ice , help ice and then they can do their job?

Really? It sseems to me that there is a HUGE risk that your attempt to help will instead be characterized as impeding and then you're dead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of stop ice , help ice and then they can do their job?

That’s an interesting spin but no, the administration needs to figure out how to do its job. It’s failing, miserably.

They have billions in appropriations, but they need volunteer help? Sounds like we need to DOGE them if they are this incompetent at doing the jobs they are getting paid six figures to do.

Incompetent indeed. As the lady says, "you can't just shoot off a t---y."

https://www.instagram.com/subhaha/reel/DTTKsCwiUt0/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of stop ice , help ice and then they can do their job?

Really? It sseems to me that there is a HUGE risk that your attempt to help will instead be characterized as impeding and then you're dead.

Yes. You know maybe it would have been better to have a plan, and sort of train some guys, and then do it right. I think they need some of those mandatory trainings that other fed employees have to complete. We could teach them what an organizational structure is, maybe have some HR training on how not to shoot people when you get Big Mad.

I'm pretty sure that if they can't do their job, they're supposed to be downsized. Isn't that how it works

[Anonymous]

Meanwhile…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
So he shouted and blew a whistle, and five agents tackled him, one kneeling on his back and breaking a rib? And then they, what, just let this dangerous whistling nurse go, with his broken rib?

Was he some kind of James Bond vigilante that out-tricked them to get away, or was it just, you know, harassment and violence by ICE against a nonviolent citizen in the street?

It sounds like he was actively pursuing ICE, and didn’t move back/got in the way when they told him to move away. If he was close enough to them to be tackled, he was too close. Police/ICE have an obligation to enforce safe boundaries between them and people when they are pursuing, making arrests, on duty. Then he goes and does it again a week later! He and the women were too close to them and in the road and wouldn’t back away. They were both getting pushed back. The lady got shoved in the snow then he puts himself in the middle of that situation and it creates another escalation. The gun complicated everything, unfortunately. You don’t get into a physical confrontation with LEO while carrying a gun- you avoid this situation at all costs.

Even Rand Paul knows you’re wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile…

Yaaaaaayyyyy!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

^^PPS (my last one, as I have to get to work)

This reminds me of what happened with DOGE and federal employees. There really was this overarching assumption that "they're dumb, and lazy, and they're only doing their jobs because they get money for doing nothing. Offer them a glazed carrot on a stick, and we can take the whole thing down without even having to fire them." But nope. The overall numbers were a spit in the wind, and the civil service kept it together -- limping, but not crashing.

I think there was this thing about Minneapolis that "oooh, they're 'nice,' and it's a bunch of liberals who bake casseroles and live soft little lives in their soft little city that refuses to vote for me. Let's arm up some guys and let them loose, Call of Duty style." Welp. Doncha know, that isn't going as planned.

Trump underestimates America. So does Miller, so does Bannon, so does Vought. And they keep underestimating, and we keep learning what works. It's nice to be proud of something again.

+1 This administration also thinks that white people don’t want these “other people” in their neighborhoods and can’t imagine anyone lifting a finger to help them.

Why none of these neighbors helped any of the illegal immigrants to legalize? They surely could have sponsored them, help them with employment visa, talent visa, pay for their immigration attorneys to expedite them receiving green cards? Why do they think whistle blowing would help these illegal aliens somehow to obtain a legal status?

Most of the people being snatched were in the system, gaining legal status. They didn't need help to legalize. Don't you get it? ICE is standing at courthouses abducting people showing up for their status hearings or worse, for their swearing in ceremonies. They are not abducting the actual criminals that we all agree should be deported.

I don't think you get it, most the states don't have these kinds of problems. This is a Minneapolis problem.

17 people shot. Not all in Minnesota. I wouldn’t call this a Minneapolis problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Instead of stop ice , help ice and then they can do their job?

In Printz v. United States, the Supreme Court held that the Constitution bars the federal government from forcing or otherwise compelling local or state governments to enforce federal law.

The liberal justice who wrote the majority opinion in that case?

Justice Antonin Scalia:

https://tile.loc.gov/storage-services/service/ll/usrep/usrep521/usrep521898/usrep521898.pdf

So Trump and ICE can just move along from their attempts to strong-arm states and cities into "compliance"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Instead of stop ice , help ice and then they can do their job?

Look, troll, it's simple.

1. Minneapolis has a “separation” or sanctuary-style ordinance that bars city employees, including police, from enforcing federal civil immigration law, from asking about immigration status, and from participating in federal immigration enforcement activities. Under city policy, MPD does not honor ICE detainers or routinely notify ICE when someone is released, except in limited situations tied to criminal investigations where immigration status is directly relevant. Federal agencies like ICE can still operate in Minneapolis independently — but local law enforcement isn’t permitted by city ordinance to proactively hand undocumented people over to ICE for civil immigration enforcement. So the police can't just "help" ICE do their job.

2. And if any wonders why the mayor can't cooperate with ICE (which would involve ignoring the city’s immigration-separation policy voted in by the city council), it's because the mayor cannot unilaterally suspend or ignore an ordinance.

3) Furthermore, under U.S. constitutional law (the anti-commandeering doctrine), the federal government cannot require state or local officials to enforce federal immigration law.

4) To change Minneapolis's policy, it would require:

a) City Council action (repeal or amendment), or
b) A state or federal law or court order that legally preempts the ordinance.

That's the law. You believe in following laws, correct?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of stop ice , help ice and then they can do their job?

In Printz v. United States, the Supreme Court held that the Constitution bars the federal government from forcing or otherwise compelling local or state governments to enforce federal law.

The liberal justice who wrote the majority opinion in that case?

Justice Antonin Scalia:

https://tile.loc.gov/storage-services/service/ll/usrep/usrep521/usrep521898/usrep521898.pdf

So Trump and ICE can just move along from their attempts to strong-arm states and cities into "compliance"

They can help enforce it, or the federal agencies can show up to do so. That’s what’s happening now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

^^PPS (my last one, as I have to get to work)

This reminds me of what happened with DOGE and federal employees. There really was this overarching assumption that "they're dumb, and lazy, and they're only doing their jobs because they get money for doing nothing. Offer them a glazed carrot on a stick, and we can take the whole thing down without even having to fire them." But nope. The overall numbers were a spit in the wind, and the civil service kept it together -- limping, but not crashing.

I think there was this thing about Minneapolis that "oooh, they're 'nice,' and it's a bunch of liberals who bake casseroles and live soft little lives in their soft little city that refuses to vote for me. Let's arm up some guys and let them loose, Call of Duty style." Welp. Doncha know, that isn't going as planned.

Trump underestimates America. So does Miller, so does Bannon, so does Vought. And they keep underestimating, and we keep learning what works. It's nice to be proud of something again.

+1 This administration also thinks that white people don’t want these “other people” in their neighborhoods and can’t imagine anyone lifting a finger to help them.

Why none of these neighbors helped any of the illegal immigrants to legalize? They surely could have sponsored them, help them with employment visa, talent visa, pay for their immigration attorneys to expedite them receiving green cards? Why do they think whistle blowing would help these illegal aliens somehow to obtain a legal status?

Most of the people being snatched were in the system, gaining legal status. They didn't need help to legalize. Don't you get it? ICE is standing at courthouses abducting people showing up for their status hearings or worse, for their swearing in ceremonies. They are not abducting the actual criminals that we all agree should be deported.

I don't think you get it, most the states don't have these kinds of problems. This is a Minneapolis problem.

Huh?

Minneapolis was fine til ICE surged 3,000 untrained morons into the city.

Only sanctuary cities have this issue. Why is that?