APS Closing Nottingham

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Anonymous wrote:Can we just tell crazy NES mommy that she wins? Then sit back and smile as her beloved school gets taken over?

I tried telling her she won pages back (or was that in another thread? They're all running together now) All that happens is another childish arrogant attempt to demean.

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Anonymous wrote:Can we just tell crazy NES mommy that she wins? Then sit back and smile as her beloved school gets taken over?

I tried telling her she won pages back (or was that in another thread? They're all running together now) All that happens is another childish arrogant attempt to demean.

Nobody is a winner here.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there any chance this doesn’t happen? Is there a theoretical plan B being circulated? I can’t bring myself to sift through 144 pages - but I assume the Nottingham supporters have suggested alternatives to the school board?

There is no plan B. Staff were squarely asked and this is their only plan. That tells you right off the bat the outcome was preordained.

Right. It’s a done deal. Time to move on.

No way. They were gung-ho for neighborhood at heights, and community discontent scuttled that terrible idea.

There is no need for closing NES. Simply split up the school under renovation for a year and bus THEM to the excess capacity schools. Then when we are done, we have updated schools ready for coming missing middle elem school boom.

Put yourself in the renovation school's position. You would gladly agree to scattering your students to whichever multiple schools happen to be under-enrolled for one or two full school years rather than split up one neighborhood school into TWO other known high-performing and highly desired schools nearby. Do you even hear yourself?!

Do you have any idea how that disrupts MULTIPLE schools, the transportation logistics, and the staffing implications? If this were your school community, you'd rather scatter to the winds, not have YOUR school community's events, break-up your teaching and admin teams, etc. for up to two years and then re-convene and re-create a cohesive community again?

You and your like-minded entitled cohorts never cease to amaze me. Just when it seems someone can't be more self-centered, you prove your mastery of narrow-focus, short-mindedness, and lack of understanding of how your world impacts anyone or anything outside your bubble. You are truly amazing. You sincerely have my upmost admiration.

Hi APS central office staff member! How’s Syphax these days?

I wouldn't know. I'm a SA SAHM. And you are a f---- obtuse idiot.

It’s a SA SAHM, folks! You all must be doing pretty well down there if you can afford to make the choice not to work. Well enough I think you can shake that social Justice warrior/inferiority complex off a bit, no?

Or MAYBE some of us are forced to take time off from our careers to care for our young children. You know, when my salary doesn’t cover the cost of daycare.

You’re a moron.

YOUR salary? You’re a single SAHM to boot? Wow. I want whatever deal you have.

Your reading comprehension and analytical ability are really poor.
Here, let me explain it another way for you on behalf of PP: her salary was lower than the cost of daycare, so she couldn't afford daycare. Therefore, she quit working and became a SAHM. So, she HAD a salary and gave it up and stayed home to take care of her kid(s). Do you understand that there's no conflict in her comment, yet?

These children have a father, no? Presumably the one who earns enough to allow her to reproduce, live in an VHCOL place like Arlington, eat, and not have to work? Is that not an incredibly privileged position to be in? One where you might expect they could leave the “rich spoiled Notties” crap behind and accept they have choices 95% of people don’t?

Maybe I’m just jaded having grown up actually broke- where my parents had to flex shifts and work JOBS (not “careers”) because none of them could afford not to work.

I'm the original SA SAHM you mocked. I grew up in a one-parent household after my father passed away when I was in elementary school. My mother had been a SAHM for over 17 years. She never remarried. I know what it's like to grow up poor and also to have wise parents and a responsible mother who was able to make things work even as she returned to work at a low-paying teacher's assistant job so she could retain the same schedule as me and be home when I still needed childcare outside of school. We did without a lot of things, but always had what we absolutely needed. We were not living the high life under my father's salary. He had 2 years' college education and worked in sales at a glass company.

As someone who grew up "actually broke," I would expect you to be more understanding and capable of making do with less. How can you believe you have fewer choices than someone like me whose husband works for the feds and isn't making the salary of the high-powered lobbyists and attorneys and other professionals making up just one - if not two - of the household incomes in very wealthy Arlington, especially north Arlington? Unless your dual household income (assuming you're a dual income family) is equal to or less than our one household income, you clearly have the same options I and many others in south, central, and north Arlington have. You merely made other priorities and chose other options. Mocking others for different choices only indicates your own insecurities, self-doubts, resentments, or pure cluelessness.

Thanks lady, yes I “chose” to work insofar I did not “choose” crippling poverty or dependence on my husband who has less earning potential. Neither one of us is better than the other, ok? You have come off with this “I’m more virtuous than the Notties because I’m not rich” and “only us Southies understand what it means to sacrifice for the greater good,” and it’s quite frankly insulting when it comes from someone who is better off than most of their neighbors. You are also aiming your crap at people who sacrificed and made different choices than you - such as to prioritize neighborhood and community over the ability to not have to work.

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No one want to join Nottingham. Even in N Arlington. You’ve alienated just about everyone with your prior and current style Of “advocacy.”

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Anonymous wrote:No one want to join Nottingham. Even in N Arlington. You’ve alienated just about everyone with your prior and current style Of “advocacy.”

In that case, you should want us to stay at our own school. Because otherwise we’ll be coming to your’s! Help us advocate to keep Nottingham open so that our abhorrent values and alienating nature don’t infiltrate the whole of North Arlington.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one want to join Nottingham. Even in N Arlington. You’ve alienated just about everyone with your prior and current style Of “advocacy.”

No worries, in 2026 Discovery will be 50 percent Nottingham so Nottingham attitudes, advocacy and sensibilities can continue to live on wherever you live.

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Haha. Doubtful. Nottingham has, like, 50 kindergartners! So easy to split it up and absorb across a few equally walkable schools.

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I’m sure there are others against the plan, but there’s ONE crazy Nottie mommy posting in here. You can tell by her writing style.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there any chance this doesn’t happen? Is there a theoretical plan B being circulated? I can’t bring myself to sift through 144 pages - but I assume the Nottingham supporters have suggested alternatives to the school board?

There is no plan B. Staff were squarely asked and this is their only plan. That tells you right off the bat the outcome was preordained.

Right. It’s a done deal. Time to move on.

No way. They were gung-ho for neighborhood at heights, and community discontent scuttled that terrible idea.

There is no need for closing NES. Simply split up the school under renovation for a year and bus THEM to the excess capacity schools. Then when we are done, we have updated schools ready for coming missing middle elem school boom.

Put yourself in the renovation school's position. You would gladly agree to scattering your students to whichever multiple schools happen to be under-enrolled for one or two full school years rather than split up one neighborhood school into TWO other known high-performing and highly desired schools nearby. Do you even hear yourself?!

Do you have any idea how that disrupts MULTIPLE schools, the transportation logistics, and the staffing implications? If this were your school community, you'd rather scatter to the winds, not have YOUR school community's events, break-up your teaching and admin teams, etc. for up to two years and then re-convene and re-create a cohesive community again?

You and your like-minded entitled cohorts never cease to amaze me. Just when it seems someone can't be more self-centered, you prove your mastery of narrow-focus, short-mindedness, and lack of understanding of how your world impacts anyone or anything outside your bubble. You are truly amazing. You sincerely have my upmost admiration.

Hi APS central office staff member! How’s Syphax these days?

I wouldn't know. I'm a SA SAHM. And you are a f---- obtuse idiot.

It’s a SA SAHM, folks! You all must be doing pretty well down there if you can afford to make the choice not to work. Well enough I think you can shake that social Justice warrior/inferiority complex off a bit, no?

Or MAYBE some of us are forced to take time off from our careers to care for our young children. You know, when my salary doesn’t cover the cost of daycare.

You’re a moron.

YOUR salary? You’re a single SAHM to boot? Wow. I want whatever deal you have.

Your reading comprehension and analytical ability are really poor.
Here, let me explain it another way for you on behalf of PP: her salary was lower than the cost of daycare, so she couldn't afford daycare. Therefore, she quit working and became a SAHM. So, she HAD a salary and gave it up and stayed home to take care of her kid(s). Do you understand that there's no conflict in her comment, yet?

These children have a father, no? Presumably the one who earns enough to allow her to reproduce, live in an VHCOL place like Arlington, eat, and not have to work? Is that not an incredibly privileged position to be in? One where you might expect they could leave the “rich spoiled Notties” crap behind and accept they have choices 95% of people don’t?

Maybe I’m just jaded having grown up actually broke- where my parents had to flex shifts and work JOBS (not “careers”) because none of them could afford not to work.

I'm the original SA SAHM you mocked. I grew up in a one-parent household after my father passed away when I was in elementary school. My mother had been a SAHM for over 17 years. She never remarried. I know what it's like to grow up poor and also to have wise parents and a responsible mother who was able to make things work even as she returned to work at a low-paying teacher's assistant job so she could retain the same schedule as me and be home when I still needed childcare outside of school. We did without a lot of things, but always had what we absolutely needed. We were not living the high life under my father's salary. He had 2 years' college education and worked in sales at a glass company.

As someone who grew up "actually broke," I would expect you to be more understanding and capable of making do with less. How can you believe you have fewer choices than someone like me whose husband works for the feds and isn't making the salary of the high-powered lobbyists and attorneys and other professionals making up just one - if not two - of the household incomes in very wealthy Arlington, especially north Arlington? Unless your dual household income (assuming you're a dual income family) is equal to or less than our one household income, you clearly have the same options I and many others in south, central, and north Arlington have. You merely made other priorities and chose other options. Mocking others for different choices only indicates your own insecurities, self-doubts, resentments, or pure cluelessness.

Thanks lady, yes I “chose” to work insofar I did not “choose” crippling poverty or dependence on my husband who has less earning potential. Neither one of us is better than the other, ok? You have come off with this “I’m more virtuous than the Notties because I’m not rich” and “only us Southies understand what it means to sacrifice for the greater good,” and it’s quite frankly insulting when it comes from someone who is better off than most of their neighbors. You are also aiming your crap at people who sacrificed and made different choices than you - such as to prioritize neighborhood and community over the ability to not have to work.

No. You are interpreting it as judgment. I really don't care whether you work, your husband works, or you both work. You're the one who made the snotty comment about SA moms having the privilege to stay home. Do you make the same comments about NA moms who stay home? Or do you believe there aren't any?

I'm not the one aiming crap. Again, that's you - stating things like you've prioritized neighborhood and community (ie, not living in south Arlington) over not having to work. You don't even know what neighborhood I live in; but since it's SA, it must be undesirable, inferior, and lack community. Wrong, wrong, and wrong. I have a good neighborhood, good community, and have been fortunate enough to be able to be a SAHP. It's unfortunate that you have only been able to have two of those three things. As I explained before, we've made financial sacrifices and choices. Everyone makes their choices. You're the one assuming I have a spouse earning "great wealth," otherwise I couldn't possibly manage to be a SAHP. You have no idea how well off I am in relation to most of my neighbors, just as I have no idea how well or less off you are than yours - and couldn't care less. It's all irrelevant to the issue. If you're so happy with your neighborhood and community, I don't see why you have to keep demeaning others who are happy with their neighborhood and community but also don't "have" to work.

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Anonymous wrote:No one want to join Nottingham. Even in N Arlington. You’ve alienated just about everyone with your prior and current style Of “advocacy.”

In that case, you should want us to stay at our own school. Because otherwise we’ll be coming to your’s! Help us advocate to keep Nottingham open so that our abhorrent values and alienating nature don’t infiltrate the whole of North Arlington.

Oh, that's clearly never going to happen! You'd sooner move to Montana than come to my kids' schools south of 50. Of course, the rest of your comment indicates you don't consider south Arlington part of the picture anyway. But you'd probably do better to solicit south Arlington support, if south Arlington schools end up being the ones destined for the swing space. They're your best bet arguing about the inconvenient and unfeasible location.

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Anonymous wrote:No one want to join Nottingham. Even in N Arlington. You’ve alienated just about everyone with your prior and current style Of “advocacy.”

In that case, you should want us to stay at our own school. Because otherwise we’ll be coming to your’s! Help us advocate to keep Nottingham open so that our abhorrent values and alienating nature don’t infiltrate the whole of North Arlington.

Oh, that's clearly never going to happen! You'd sooner move to Montana than come to my kids' schools south of 50. Of course, the rest of your comment indicates you don't consider south Arlington part of the picture anyway. But you'd probably do better to solicit south Arlington support, if south Arlington schools end up being the ones destined for the swing space. They're your best bet arguing about the inconvenient and unfeasible location.

So we are on the same page!

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Anonymous wrote:Is there any chance this doesn’t happen? Is there a theoretical plan B being circulated? I can’t bring myself to sift through 144 pages - but I assume the Nottingham supporters have suggested alternatives to the school board?

There is no plan B. Staff were squarely asked and this is their only plan. That tells you right off the bat the outcome was preordained.

Right. It’s a done deal. Time to move on.

No way. They were gung-ho for neighborhood at heights, and community discontent scuttled that terrible idea.

There is no need for closing NES. Simply split up the school under renovation for a year and bus THEM to the excess capacity schools. Then when we are done, we have updated schools ready for coming missing middle elem school boom.

Put yourself in the renovation school's position. You would gladly agree to scattering your students to whichever multiple schools happen to be under-enrolled for one or two full school years rather than split up one neighborhood school into TWO other known high-performing and highly desired schools nearby. Do you even hear yourself?!

Do you have any idea how that disrupts MULTIPLE schools, the transportation logistics, and the staffing implications? If this were your school community, you'd rather scatter to the winds, not have YOUR school community's events, break-up your teaching and admin teams, etc. for up to two years and then re-convene and re-create a cohesive community again?

You and your like-minded entitled cohorts never cease to amaze me. Just when it seems someone can't be more self-centered, you prove your mastery of narrow-focus, short-mindedness, and lack of understanding of how your world impacts anyone or anything outside your bubble. You are truly amazing. You sincerely have my upmost admiration.

Hi APS central office staff member! How’s Syphax these days?

I wouldn't know. I'm a SA SAHM. And you are a f---- obtuse idiot.

It’s a SA SAHM, folks! You all must be doing pretty well down there if you can afford to make the choice not to work. Well enough I think you can shake that social Justice warrior/inferiority complex off a bit, no?

Or MAYBE some of us are forced to take time off from our careers to care for our young children. You know, when my salary doesn’t cover the cost of daycare.

You’re a moron.

YOUR salary? You’re a single SAHM to boot? Wow. I want whatever deal you have.

Your reading comprehension and analytical ability are really poor.
Here, let me explain it another way for you on behalf of PP: her salary was lower than the cost of daycare, so she couldn't afford daycare. Therefore, she quit working and became a SAHM. So, she HAD a salary and gave it up and stayed home to take care of her kid(s). Do you understand that there's no conflict in her comment, yet?

These children have a father, no? Presumably the one who earns enough to allow her to reproduce, live in an VHCOL place like Arlington, eat, and not have to work? Is that not an incredibly privileged position to be in? One where you might expect they could leave the “rich spoiled Notties” crap behind and accept they have choices 95% of people don’t?

Maybe I’m just jaded having grown up actually broke- where my parents had to flex shifts and work JOBS (not “careers”) because none of them could afford not to work.

I'm the original SA SAHM you mocked. I grew up in a one-parent household after my father passed away when I was in elementary school. My mother had been a SAHM for over 17 years. She never remarried. I know what it's like to grow up poor and also to have wise parents and a responsible mother who was able to make things work even as she returned to work at a low-paying teacher's assistant job so she could retain the same schedule as me and be home when I still needed childcare outside of school. We did without a lot of things, but always had what we absolutely needed. We were not living the high life under my father's salary. He had 2 years' college education and worked in sales at a glass company.

As someone who grew up "actually broke," I would expect you to be more understanding and capable of making do with less. How can you believe you have fewer choices than someone like me whose husband works for the feds and isn't making the salary of the high-powered lobbyists and attorneys and other professionals making up just one - if not two - of the household incomes in very wealthy Arlington, especially north Arlington? Unless your dual household income (assuming you're a dual income family) is equal to or less than our one household income, you clearly have the same options I and many others in south, central, and north Arlington have. You merely made other priorities and chose other options. Mocking others for different choices only indicates your own insecurities, self-doubts, resentments, or pure cluelessness.

Thanks lady, yes I “chose” to work insofar I did not “choose” crippling poverty or dependence on my husband who has less earning potential. Neither one of us is better than the other, ok? You have come off with this “I’m more virtuous than the Notties because I’m not rich” and “only us Southies understand what it means to sacrifice for the greater good,” and it’s quite frankly insulting when it comes from someone who is better off than most of their neighbors. You are also aiming your crap at people who sacrificed and made different choices than you - such as to prioritize neighborhood and community over the ability to not have to work.

No. You are interpreting it as judgment. I really don't care whether you work, your husband works, or you both work. You're the one who made the snotty comment about SA moms having the privilege to stay home. Do you make the same comments about NA moms who stay home? Or do you believe there aren't any?

I'm not the one aiming crap. Again, that's you - stating things like you've prioritized neighborhood and community (ie, not living in south Arlington) over not having to work. You don't even know what neighborhood I live in; but since it's SA, it must be undesirable, inferior, and lack community. Wrong, wrong, and wrong. I have a good neighborhood, good community, and have been fortunate enough to be able to be a SAHP. It's unfortunate that you have only been able to have two of those three things. As I explained before, we've made financial sacrifices and choices. Everyone makes their choices. You're the one assuming I have a spouse earning "great wealth," otherwise I couldn't possibly manage to be a SAHP. You have no idea how well off I am in relation to most of my neighbors, just as I have no idea how well or less off you are than yours - and couldn't care less. It's all irrelevant to the issue. If you're so happy with your neighborhood and community, I don't see why you have to keep demeaning others who are happy with their neighborhood and community but also don't "have" to work.

You’ve clearly been triggered by PP (it wasn’t me!) But can you now see how annoying it is/inaccurate to say all of North Arlington is rich and privileged? You can’t have it both ways.

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No one is on the same page with the Notties.

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I don’t think anyone is on the same page with anything in APS. I’m floored at the divide that exists between N and S Arl. It really makes me sad this is how we treat others. Hope our kiddos are nicer to each other when they interact.

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^^this except it's not just a north/south divide. Everyone who is throwing out personal attacks (Nottie mom! McKinley mom! SA SAHM mom! Random guy who I'm 90% sure is shitposting!) needs to take a step back and understand that other people making different choices in life isn't an attack on you and your decisions. Maybe I'm being too much of a Pollyanna here but I don't think any of you would be this mean to another parent you're just chatting to on the sideline of a soccer game.