Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you live in Potomac Yards, Del Ray, Rosemont or off of Slaters and didn't oppose the arena then, you should now because guess where people who don't want to pay $75 to park will park?!

BTW the parking for Nats games has gotten insane. We used to park underneath the Salt Line for about $30, then during covid the surface lots across from the stadium playground entrance (2 HUGE lots) were developed into high rises and now we can't find anywhere to park less than $60. $75 is right around the corner.

Aren’t there a lot of cheap surface lots near the Audi Field soccer complex?

Not that I’ve been able to find that are even relatively safe. At all. The game night before the shooting outside the Nats game in 2022, we parked in a crazy surface lot we had found on parking panda or spot hero in advance to discover it’s one of those lots where they cram all the cars in, you have to give them your keys and it’s a nightmare to leave. When we finally were able to leave there was an inebriated person passed out behind our car; the lot attendants had to physically move him down the alley and then all the one way streets on that side of Capitol Street you’re driving through some of the worsts streets in DC. They’ve since built something on that lot on Capitol but it was right where the shooting occurred the next night.

I usually now look on StubHub/Ticketmaster for parking passes to one of the attached garages or take metro (which is fine to get there but crazy to leave). I don’t think Leonsis will have an issue finding people to pay $75 but there will be plenty of people who won’t want to pay (who really does) that look for on street parking in surrounding neighborhood making it even more gridlocked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The numbers here are simply BS. The $75 parking fee is bizarre and far outstrips the other local arenas and stadiums. The $751 hotel rate is well above what is readily available at other high end hotels. On both parking and hotels, PY will be 1-2 Metro stops from Braddock Road, King St Metro, Crystal City, and Pentagon City, all of which will end up providing cheaper parking and hotels. On 221 events a year, including 133 concerts and other events, does Ted really think PY will attract all of the local concerts and events. I have serious questions about the regional demand for another concert venue. So, ignoring the venues in DC and Maryland, Ted plans to take concerts away from GMU, Wolf Trap, Jiffy Lube Live, Filene Center, and Birchmere (latter being the best of all of them). Moreover, the clear implication here is that he will pull events from his other 2 DC arenas, including Capital One Arena, and eventually including the Mystics and his other teams. Ted is simply being intellectually dishonest when he claims that PY frees up Capital One to attract other events.

I'm curious. By the time the new arena would open, do you think parking and hotel room prices will have gone down in area, remained the same, or increased?

Yes, inflation will increase these prices. But the public will have plenty of nearby options. Now, maybe, Ted plans to do the "Dan" thing by trying to control in full the surrounding area, by overcharging for parking, by trying to prevent the use of nearby parking lots, by preventing fans from walking from nearby areas, etc. Those neighborhoods from northern Old Town to Pentagon City will suffer. As for hotels, maybe, Ted's plan is to market to out-of-town fans, given the proximity to Reagan, and the hotel rates. Finally, given the driving and parking logistics and cost, Ted certainly will be discouraging families with young kids from attending weekday games. In sum, while Ted is not (yet) at the Dan level, Ted certainly is working at it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The numbers here are simply BS. The $75 parking fee is bizarre and far outstrips the other local arenas and stadiums. The $751 hotel rate is well above what is readily available at other high end hotels. On both parking and hotels, PY will be 1-2 Metro stops from Braddock Road, King St Metro, Crystal City, and Pentagon City, all of which will end up providing cheaper parking and hotels. On 221 events a year, including 133 concerts and other events, does Ted really think PY will attract all of the local concerts and events. I have serious questions about the regional demand for another concert venue. So, ignoring the venues in DC and Maryland, Ted plans to take concerts away from GMU, Wolf Trap, Jiffy Lube Live, Filene Center, and Birchmere (latter being the best of all of them). Moreover, the clear implication here is that he will pull events from his other 2 DC arenas, including Capital One Arena, and eventually including the Mystics and his other teams. Ted is simply being intellectually dishonest when he claims that PY frees up Capital One to attract other events.

I wonder whether the Virginia State Delegates and Senators whose districts include these other arenas are opposing the Potomac Yards' plan. It does not benefit them or their constituents or businesses. In fact, it will hurt from longer drives (PY being longer than Capital One Arena) and from lost business, whether their arenas, bars, or restaurants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The numbers here are simply BS. The $75 parking fee is bizarre and far outstrips the other local arenas and stadiums. The $751 hotel rate is well above what is readily available at other high end hotels. On both parking and hotels, PY will be 1-2 Metro stops from Braddock Road, King St Metro, Crystal City, and Pentagon City, all of which will end up providing cheaper parking and hotels. On 221 events a year, including 133 concerts and other events, does Ted really think PY will attract all of the local concerts and events. I have serious questions about the regional demand for another concert venue. So, ignoring the venues in DC and Maryland, Ted plans to take concerts away from GMU, Wolf Trap, Jiffy Lube Live, Filene Center, and Birchmere (latter being the best of all of them). Moreover, the clear implication here is that he will pull events from his other 2 DC arenas, including Capital One Arena, and eventually including the Mystics and his other teams. Ted is simply being intellectually dishonest when he claims that PY frees up Capital One to attract other events.

I wonder whether the Virginia State Delegates and Senators whose districts include these other arenas are opposing the Potomac Yards' plan. It does not benefit them or their constituents or businesses. In fact, it will hurt from longer drives (PY being longer than Capital One Arena) and from lost business, whether their arenas, bars, or restaurants.

Ebbin supported it. Bennett-Parker wouldn’t say at first and then when it seemed safe to say anything she said she’s against it for now because she doesn’t like the lack of transparency. But I don’t think she’s sincere. I think she may be taking it seriously that she could jeopardize not being re-elected if she votes for it and once she understood Lucas wasn’t going to get it out of committee then she said “I don’t like the deal”.

I would be interested to know re the reps who cover 22202 have said publicly.

[Anonymous]

A parking ticket is $40 in Alexandria.

So... what's going to be more appealing to an arena-goer? Pay $75 for parking, or $40 in a residential zone?

Yeah, this is going to work out wonderfully for anyone in a <1 mile radius...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A parking ticket is $40 in Alexandria.

So... what's going to be more appealing to an arena-goer? Pay $75 for parking, or $40 in a residential zone?

Yeah, this is going to work out wonderfully for anyone in a <1 mile radius...

I wonder whether the parking fines will be used to cover the debt payments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you live in Potomac Yards, Del Ray, Rosemont or off of Slaters and didn't oppose the arena then, you should now because guess where people who don't want to pay $75 to park will park?!

BTW the parking for Nats games has gotten insane. We used to park underneath the Salt Line for about $30, then during covid the surface lots across from the stadium playground entrance (2 HUGE lots) were developed into high rises and now we can't find anywhere to park less than $60. $75 is right around the corner.

Metro is your friend. The station is right there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The numbers here are simply BS. The $75 parking fee is bizarre and far outstrips the other local arenas and stadiums. The $751 hotel rate is well above what is readily available at other high end hotels. On both parking and hotels, PY will be 1-2 Metro stops from Braddock Road, King St Metro, Crystal City, and Pentagon City, all of which will end up providing cheaper parking and hotels. On 221 events a year, including 133 concerts and other events, does Ted really think PY will attract all of the local concerts and events. I have serious questions about the regional demand for another concert venue. So, ignoring the venues in DC and Maryland, Ted plans to take concerts away from GMU, Wolf Trap, Jiffy Lube Live, Filene Center, and Birchmere (latter being the best of all of them). Moreover, the clear implication here is that he will pull events from his other 2 DC arenas, including Capital One Arena, and eventually including the Mystics and his other teams. Ted is simply being intellectually dishonest when he claims that PY frees up Capital One to attract other events.

I wonder whether the Virginia State Delegates and Senators whose districts include these other arenas are opposing the Potomac Yards' plan. It does not benefit them or their constituents or businesses. In fact, it will hurt from longer drives (PY being longer than Capital One Arena) and from lost business, whether their arenas, bars, or restaurants.

Ebbin supported it. Bennett-Parker wouldn’t say at first and then when it seemed safe to say anything she said she’s against it for now because she doesn’t like the lack of transparency. But I don’t think she’s sincere. I think she may be taking it seriously that she could jeopardize not being re-elected if she votes for it and once she understood Lucas wasn’t going to get it out of committee then she said “I don’t like the deal”.

I would be interested to know re the reps who cover 22202 have said publicly.

The more Ted's wonderful entertainment district is successful, the worse off GMU's Arena, Wolf Trap, Jiffy Live, Filene, and Birchmere will be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A parking ticket is $40 in Alexandria.

So... what's going to be more appealing to an arena-goer? Pay $75 for parking, or $40 in a residential zone?

Yeah, this is going to work out wonderfully for anyone in a <1 mile radius...

I wonder whether the parking fines will be used to cover the debt payments.

Parking enforcement won't be able to keep up. And then Ride Share drivers will just camp out in nearby residential neighborhoods weighting for requests, taking up spots that should be for residents. At least most Potomac Yard residents have a garage space and small driveway. Most of us in Del Ray only have street parking, which is already a problem. I've called Parking Enforcement twice this week to report abandoned Maryland vehicles that have been on the street for at least 2 weeks - they're both still here, without any tickets. I'm certain they don't belong to any residents.

This is going to be a major problem for anyone even 1-2 miles away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The numbers here are simply BS. The $75 parking fee is bizarre and far outstrips the other local arenas and stadiums. The $751 hotel rate is well above what is readily available at other high end hotels. On both parking and hotels, PY will be 1-2 Metro stops from Braddock Road, King St Metro, Crystal City, and Pentagon City, all of which will end up providing cheaper parking and hotels. On 221 events a year, including 133 concerts and other events, does Ted really think PY will attract all of the local concerts and events. I have serious questions about the regional demand for another concert venue. So, ignoring the venues in DC and Maryland, Ted plans to take concerts away from GMU, Wolf Trap, Jiffy Lube Live, Filene Center, and Birchmere (latter being the best of all of them). Moreover, the clear implication here is that he will pull events from his other 2 DC arenas, including Capital One Arena, and eventually including the Mystics and his other teams. Ted is simply being intellectually dishonest when he claims that PY frees up Capital One to attract other events.

I wonder whether the Virginia State Delegates and Senators whose districts include these other arenas are opposing the Potomac Yards' plan. It does not benefit them or their constituents or businesses. In fact, it will hurt from longer drives (PY being longer than Capital One Arena) and from lost business, whether their arenas, bars, or restaurants.

Ebbin supported it. Bennett-Parker wouldn’t say at first and then when it seemed safe to say anything she said she’s against it for now because she doesn’t like the lack of transparency. But I don’t think she’s sincere. I think she may be taking it seriously that she could jeopardize not being re-elected if she votes for it and once she understood Lucas wasn’t going to get it out of committee then she said “I don’t like the deal”.

I would be interested to know re the reps who cover 22202 have said publicly.

The more Ted's wonderful entertainment district is successful, the worse off GMU's Arena, Wolf Trap, Jiffy Live, Filene, and Birchmere will be.

You forgot National Theater, Warner Theater, Kennedy Center, Strathmore, etc. All will suffer greatly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A parking ticket is $40 in Alexandria.

So... what's going to be more appealing to an arena-goer? Pay $75 for parking, or $40 in a residential zone?

Yeah, this is going to work out wonderfully for anyone in a <1 mile radius...

My guess is that they would restrict parking in residential areas and increase the fines. Just a guess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A parking ticket is $40 in Alexandria.

So... what's going to be more appealing to an arena-goer? Pay $75 for parking, or $40 in a residential zone?

Yeah, this is going to work out wonderfully for anyone in a <1 mile radius...

I wonder whether the parking fines will be used to cover the debt payments.

Parking enforcement won't be able to keep up. And then Ride Share drivers will just camp out in nearby residential neighborhoods weighting for requests, taking up spots that should be for residents. At least most Potomac Yard residents have a garage space and small driveway. Most of us in Del Ray only have street parking, which is already a problem. I've called Parking Enforcement twice this week to report abandoned Maryland vehicles that have been on the street for at least 2 weeks - they're both still here, without any tickets. I'm certain they don't belong to any residents.

This is going to be a major problem for anyone even 1-2 miles away.

Towing abandoned vehicles doesn't make someone pay a fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The numbers here are simply BS. The $75 parking fee is bizarre and far outstrips the other local arenas and stadiums. The $751 hotel rate is well above what is readily available at other high end hotels. On both parking and hotels, PY will be 1-2 Metro stops from Braddock Road, King St Metro, Crystal City, and Pentagon City, all of which will end up providing cheaper parking and hotels. On 221 events a year, including 133 concerts and other events, does Ted really think PY will attract all of the local concerts and events. I have serious questions about the regional demand for another concert venue. So, ignoring the venues in DC and Maryland, Ted plans to take concerts away from GMU, Wolf Trap, Jiffy Lube Live, Filene Center, and Birchmere (latter being the best of all of them). Moreover, the clear implication here is that he will pull events from his other 2 DC arenas, including Capital One Arena, and eventually including the Mystics and his other teams. Ted is simply being intellectually dishonest when he claims that PY frees up Capital One to attract other events.

I wonder whether the Virginia State Delegates and Senators whose districts include these other arenas are opposing the Potomac Yards' plan. It does not benefit them or their constituents or businesses. In fact, it will hurt from longer drives (PY being longer than Capital One Arena) and from lost business, whether their arenas, bars, or restaurants.

Ebbin supported it. Bennett-Parker wouldn’t say at first and then when it seemed safe to say anything she said she’s against it for now because she doesn’t like the lack of transparency. But I don’t think she’s sincere. I think she may be taking it seriously that she could jeopardize not being re-elected if she votes for it and once she understood Lucas wasn’t going to get it out of committee then she said “I don’t like the deal”.

I would be interested to know re the reps who cover 22202 have said publicly.

Wait. Ebbin SUPPORTS the arena???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The numbers here are simply BS. The $75 parking fee is bizarre and far outstrips the other local arenas and stadiums. The $751 hotel rate is well above what is readily available at other high end hotels. On both parking and hotels, PY will be 1-2 Metro stops from Braddock Road, King St Metro, Crystal City, and Pentagon City, all of which will end up providing cheaper parking and hotels. On 221 events a year, including 133 concerts and other events, does Ted really think PY will attract all of the local concerts and events. I have serious questions about the regional demand for another concert venue. So, ignoring the venues in DC and Maryland, Ted plans to take concerts away from GMU, Wolf Trap, Jiffy Lube Live, Filene Center, and Birchmere (latter being the best of all of them). Moreover, the clear implication here is that he will pull events from his other 2 DC arenas, including Capital One Arena, and eventually including the Mystics and his other teams. Ted is simply being intellectually dishonest when he claims that PY frees up Capital One to attract other events.

I wonder whether the Virginia State Delegates and Senators whose districts include these other arenas are opposing the Potomac Yards' plan. It does not benefit them or their constituents or businesses. In fact, it will hurt from longer drives (PY being longer than Capital One Arena) and from lost business, whether their arenas, bars, or restaurants.

Ebbin supported it. Bennett-Parker wouldn’t say at first and then when it seemed safe to say anything she said she’s against it for now because she doesn’t like the lack of transparency. But I don’t think she’s sincere. I think she may be taking it seriously that she could jeopardize not being re-elected if she votes for it and once she understood Lucas wasn’t going to get it out of committee then she said “I don’t like the deal”.

I would be interested to know re the reps who cover 22202 have said publicly.

Wait. Ebbin SUPPORTS the arena???

He has, since the December press conference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A parking ticket is $40 in Alexandria.

So... what's going to be more appealing to an arena-goer? Pay $75 for parking, or $40 in a residential zone?

Yeah, this is going to work out wonderfully for anyone in a <1 mile radius...

I wonder whether the parking fines will be used to cover the debt payments.

Parking enforcement won't be able to keep up. And then Ride Share drivers will just camp out in nearby residential neighborhoods weighting for requests, taking up spots that should be for residents. At least most Potomac Yard residents have a garage space and small driveway. Most of us in Del Ray only have street parking, which is already a problem. I've called Parking Enforcement twice this week to report abandoned Maryland vehicles that have been on the street for at least 2 weeks - they're both still here, without any tickets. I'm certain they don't belong to any residents.

This is going to be a major problem for anyone even 1-2 miles away.

Did you call the nonemergency number? They're supposed to come out and put an orange sticker on the window and then after 72 hours if the car hasn't been moved they tow it