Valor

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll say it- you all suck. All of u11

This sounds like a problem with the new youth director, as this was at one time a strength of the club.

Strength of a 3 year old club. Tell me more! I'm not arguing against the previous complaints, I'm more curious about when it was supposedly good.

when SYA was by themselves. CYA has always been a shit organization. Only good for rec.

this.. we left last season. Former CYA coach told a RL team that its equal playing time. That he doesnt care about winning. And populated roster with kids who played for him when he was at CYA and passed of several boys who are now on ECNL National teams. True to form he made subs based on how many minutes played regardless of performance. As soon as subs occurred team got blown up on field. Group was a disaster last year, and heard just as bad this year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ll say it- you all suck. All of u11

This sounds like a problem with the new youth director, as this was at one time a strength of the club.

Strength of a 3 year old club. Tell me more! I'm not arguing against the previous complaints, I'm more curious about when it was supposedly good.

when SYA was by themselves. CYA has always been a shit organization. Only good for rec.

this.. we left last season. Former CYA coach told a RL team that its equal playing time. That he doesnt care about winning. And populated roster with kids who played for him when he was at CYA and passed of several boys who are now on ECNL National teams. True to form he made subs based on how many minutes played regardless of performance. As soon as subs occurred team got blown up on field. Group was a disaster last year, and heard just as bad this year.

Depending on age this doesn't sound that bad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll say it- you all suck. All of u11

This sounds like a problem with the new youth director, as this was at one time a strength of the club.

Strength of a 3 year old club. Tell me more! I'm not arguing against the previous complaints, I'm more curious about when it was supposedly good.

when SYA was by themselves. CYA has always been a shit organization. Only good for rec.

this.. we left last season. Former CYA coach told a RL team that its equal playing time. That he doesnt care about winning. And populated roster with kids who played for him when he was at CYA and passed of several boys who are now on ECNL National teams. True to form he made subs based on how many minutes played regardless of performance. As soon as subs occurred team got blown up on field. Group was a disaster last year, and heard just as bad this year.

I know which team you are talking about. That team was a disaster last year. We know one of the boys who left and is much happier at another club. The parents game morning positive to say about their time at Valor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll say it- you all suck. All of u11

This sounds like a problem with the new youth director, as this was at one time a strength of the club.

Strength of a 3 year old club. Tell me more! I'm not arguing against the previous complaints, I'm more curious about when it was supposedly good.

when SYA was by themselves. CYA has always been a shit organization. Only good for rec.

this.. we left last season. Former CYA coach told a RL team that its equal playing time. That he doesnt care about winning. And populated roster with kids who played for him when he was at CYA and passed of several boys who are now on ECNL National teams. True to form he made subs based on how many minutes played regardless of performance. As soon as subs occurred team got blown up on field. Group was a disaster last year, and heard just as bad this year.

Depending on age this doesn't sound that bad.

much older team.. but regardless RL level is about performance, not equal playing time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll say it- you all suck. All of u11

This sounds like a problem with the new youth director, as this was at one time a strength of the club.

This is what happens when you sandbag tournaments and parents who don’t know any better have expectations that they teams are good. Eventually it will catch up when there are more players on the field and there are less bad teams.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Going to just say it. It’s time for Paul Ellis to step down and get someone who gives a damn. Hold your coaches accountable when 80% of the parents complain.

Can you reasonably expect leadership to hold Coaches accountable to parents complaining anonymously? I’m no fan of Paul’s but if you really want change, parents simply need to stop hiding.

To be clear, if it’s said on a message board Paul doesn’t give it any merit or value nor should he. If things are as bad as noted here on the board and it means that much to the parents, then parents will take action in person or at the very least take ownership of their grievances in an email.

To that end, an email will not provide the same result as an in-person meeting w/the director of coaching, the youth director of the division, and the Coach. Furthermore and more importantly, to provide the greatest possibility of change and accountability, demand that multiple members of both the Valor and CYA board attend the meeting. I find it hard to believe an email to all of the people mentioned above from the parents requesting an in-person meeting will go unnoticed or ignored.

Create a detailed agenda for your meeting and in act of respecting people’s time send it to all expecting to attend. Don’t get into a pissing contest about personal issues, it’s not public school board meeting where constituents are only to be heard and nothing gets done. Challenging the execution of the Club’s mission is not the same as attacking the leader personally. To get something done, think from the Club’s view, it is about ‘player development’ not W’s, ‘playing time’ or personal grievances.

If your main grievance/s are w/a Coach ‘and’ your solution is to fire a Coach, the grievance better be so bad that the Club’s public image and or reputation is undeniably adversely affected such that the immediate firing of the Coach outweighs the pain of simply letting them finish the season.

My counsel to you and the other parents, come w/reasonable grievances and reasonable executable solutions that can be easily and quickly implemented. Give the Club an opportunity to make a good faith effort to solve the issues at hand. Doing this in a public forum w/sitting board members from both Valor and CYA provides both Valor leadership and the parents accountability w/the best chance of achieving the objectives for each.

You and the other parents already collectively agree the player development of your team needs to be addressed. Assuming you already collectively brought these issues to the Coach and nothing has changed, you need to take further action. Stop hiding and murmuring on the sidelines w/each other. You are all smart enough to know it can’t be done from a message board. Your action if taken as outlined above is the best chance to affect changes for your player, team, and the entire Club. Anything short of this expect nothing to change.

Wow....you would think with the input rate and tons of testimony provided here it would be enough. I would say VALOR has lost the popular vote! Even when the writing is on the wall, you still fail to acknowledge it. We left Valor, went to a PA team due to a number of issues all mentioned several times in these posts. With zero assessment or performance-based metrics, a lot of nepotism in this club and misplaced recognition. We shopped elsewhere after our first season, left your bottom performing team, bottom division, sub-performing coach and got with a number 1 coach on a much higher division. It's simple, conduct a real assessment: specific drill, speed, time and execution.... number of completed touches. Knowledge of the game will need to be observed during scrimmages. I get it, its pay to play right?

[Anonymous]

We are new to valor and have a son playing for a different team so this is our first winter here. Do the girls team have consistent practices and games during winter?

Our son’s team is practicing two times a week, already started indoor soccer and futsal and had a scrimmage with his team while my girls team has done nothing.

Do the girls teams not do anything during the winter/off season?

I guess this is something we should has asked about when we signed up I just assumed they would be doing something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are new to valor and have a son playing for a different team so this is our first winter here. Do the girls team have consistent practices and games during winter?

Our son’s team is practicing two times a week, already started indoor soccer and futsal and had a scrimmage with his team while my girls team has done nothing.

Do the girls teams not do anything during the winter/off season?

I guess this is something we should has asked about when we signed up I just assumed they would be doing something.

You should ask your coach. All teams u12 and below have activities starting in January.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are new to valor and have a son playing for a different team so this is our first winter here. Do the girls team have consistent practices and games during winter?

Our son’s team is practicing two times a week, already started indoor soccer and futsal and had a scrimmage with his team while my girls team has done nothing.

Do the girls teams not do anything during the winter/off season?

I guess this is something we should has asked about when we signed up I just assumed they would be doing something.

Individual coaches develop their own plans and sign up for different events. The Lower Tier teams typically do less and the Higher Tier teams typically do as much as they can. This is not uncommon to find such a huge discrepancy in what is going on during the winter within the same club.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are new to valor and have a son playing for a different team so this is our first winter here. Do the girls team have consistent practices and games during winter?

Our son’s team is practicing two times a week, already started indoor soccer and futsal and had a scrimmage with his team while my girls team has done nothing.

Do the girls teams not do anything during the winter/off season?

I guess this is something we should has asked about when we signed up I just assumed they would be doing something.

How old is your daughter? I know some of the older girls teams, probably the higher level ones, were/are still finishing up tournaments that I think would be considered part of the fall season. If she is younger I know the girls are doing some kind of indoor soccer or futsal within the club starting in January. There is also a competitive futsal tryout coming up for some league that starts in Jan. I know at least one futsal league around here had already started but I guess that’s not the one Valor is doing.

[Anonymous]

Tell me about Jake Lind. U11 coach. Can’t read him…

[Anonymous]

And thoughts on Stevie Alabi…. Is he a decent coach?
I can’t do another year of valor if I know that the next level up, I’m going to have these poor coaches.
Give me some pointers/advice.

[Anonymous]

My experience right now is making me pull my hair out- I’m done with this whole program.

[Anonymous]

Futsal is a joke! Better off going to an empty field and working and playing there.

[Anonymous]

What about the u11 white team coach? Any intel?